services be our guest at frankfurt and bought cd, managed by from bought the business, the, the, you know, as long from berlin, the u. s. is set to announce cluster bombs for ukraine. depends on is expected to include thousands of the controversial weapons and a new military, a package for the fight against russia. but rights groups are raising concerns. also coming up, natal prepares for a key summit with a focus on membership for ukraine and sweden. 3rd questions over the alliance of

capabilities though, a veteran us general tells dw nato is not ready to face any friend from russia. nearly a year since the anti government protests broke out across around the balloon minority in the south east is keeping up the pressure on the regime interior on the, on the conflicts. welcome to the program. the bottom administration is expected to announce a new military aid package. for ukraine, including controversial cluster bombs, keith ones the weapons for the war with russia, but the bombs are banned by over $120.00 countries because they kill and maim indiscriminately human rights groups say both sides have already use them and oppose more being sent to ukraine, the graveyard dismissals and hockey's the remnants of

russian munition to have devastated civilian life in pulse of ukraine. among them, the rockets used to launch cluster bones, a large number of small explosives packed into these containers and released me to with the potential to close extensive damage to an area the size of a city block such as hit in cost, intuitive cost assist you new cranes dot net screech, and which was his in march this year by cluster bombs, local firefighters trying to contain the damage undetected cluster munitions that don't explode. can also may move killed people decades later. on thursday, the pentagon press secretary defended the use of the weapons that is pointing the finger at moscow. so essentially it can be either loaded with shaped charges which

are arm or penetrating or they can be loaded with fragmentary munitions, which are anti personnel. so clearly a capability that would be useful in any type of offensive operations. i would note that the russians have already been employing cluster munitions on the battlefield . human rights watch says base russia and ukraine have used cluster munitions. so fall in the conflict and has cooled for both sides to stop immediately. we can speak now to rich, where he's a senior crisis and conflict researcher for human rights watch. he's currently in berlin. welcome to d w. now, in your opinion, why is the use of cluster bombs so problematic as well? these web is already here. the indiscriminate nauseous and their 1st use when they're 1st dispersed from these larger weapons and deliver over large areas where they can be limited to military objectives. but also because a large number of these are the smaller subdivisions when they fall,

they don't get any. and where this happens is their last for years, sometimes decades. and this is huge, serious danger to millions or really anyone that comes into these areas. and that can be devastating for civilian reduction, saving for retirement efforts. exactly, because of these weapons, again, are indiscriminate. they don't do it, they don't distinguish between the child or a soldier once they're on the ground. and ukraine says though that it will deploy the weapons judiciously and that many frontline areas are already riddled with land lines anyway. so is there a responsible way of using cluster munitions as well the conditions. and the reason that over half the countries of the world assigned up to them is because there is no real way to limit the effects and contributions. again, you know, you can use them as did you go to an area where there are fewer civilians. once you

disperse these wides, there's no way of knowing how many of them really are going to fail and then leave civilians at risk. and do these weapons in cleaning up these areas as well. there are huge swans of the country that are contaminated already. adding more smaller weapons that you know, can be picked up or handled by people and i, serious injury or again having more of these is not a solution to the word clear in these areas is extremely dangerous, and time consuming. and most of the rest of the people who are doing this amount of work or just as well. but if these cluster bombs could potentially help ukraine to beat back the russians and potentially speed up an end to this war, a war that is costing so many lives. couldn't that be worth it as well. this is about here to the basic principles of international law and the law which call on

countries uh to uh to make sure that the screens between combatants and civilians. it means that they are also need to take causing caution or precautions in order to protect civilians and they, and every transferred he needs to be adhered to these rules. when finding a war, it doesn't matter if it will speed out of work as an excuse for engaging or using weapons in describing the qualities. my question may, the secretary generally installed in burg has implied understanding for the use of cluster bombs for defensive purposes. so for a use in this case, in russia doesn't shy away from using them because we know, and you have documented extensively that russia is using them as well. is it fair to expect ukraine to not respond in kind? i think it's fair to expect you crying to, to live by his obligations under international law. this is something that ukraine

has repeatedly said that they do in all of their operations. and this is an important time to make sure that they did. they stand up to that obligation that they have, by their obligations in the district to there were even of that implies them being exposed to, to greater risk than not being able to respond to them as well in using these letters there. it's also exposing other people and since specifically they're all civilians and around the territory tourist for really long periods to kinda, that'd be years, it could be decades. and so there's also responsibility to ensure that as well as they're using in order to find this war, are ones that don't cause, you know, i'm necessary indiscriminate arms to civilians and that's why i'm using munitions are banned. and that's why we're, we call on all states, not just russia and ukraine, also the united states and every other time for you not to use the not to transfer

them and not as rich way or with human rights watch. thank you so much for your time. great speaking to you. in the meantime, nato leaders are preparing for a case summit next week that will focus on membership for ukraine and sweden. but there is another significant concern for the airlines. whether it is actually capable of dealing with any threat from russia or use general has told, dw nato is not ready. nato maintained, its got allies completely covered, and they thought protected every inch of allied territory. but canot nato has forces in fire, power, pre positioned in 8 allies along its eastern flank. but if russia were to attack, for example, the narrow gap between bellow, ruzen, colleen, and grad known as this. a walking corridor with the aim to cut off the baltic states, we can not move fast enough. i think this is very dangerous that the russians can

see. and they are aware that we could not get to. let's say this a walking car door for the full sean gate down in romania as fast or faster than russian federation forces could give their retire. general ben hodges is an expert in military mobility and to his chagrin, m. o ability. from the years he was charged with insuring american troops and their equipment could respond quickly to threats loads of red tape and lack of transport capacity top to his list of lows. you cannot even live a couple your fashion journey without special permissions. there's not enough real cars in the cargo don't you bought a cargo to move more than one and a half are remember, gauge that all over europe simultaneously. that's nothing compared to what we would need. and then there's the lack of inter governmental communication. hodges recalls a special moment in 2017 when you as paratroopers were dropped into bulgaria for

a training exercise. we discovered in the last minute the demo, gary and ministry of interior responsible for their borders. we're going to have officials out on the drop zone and expect to see the passport of every parents river as if they had just gotten off a little tons of light. and i was like you watching. another issue is infrastructure such as bridges and roads that can't bear the weight of heavy tanks or tunnels, which are too narrow. fixing these problems was long ago identified as a key area where nato into europe can union could and actually had to work together . the alliance needs the access, the you has control over regulations and funds for logistical upgrades and member states. but after years of plans, task forces and projects and now war next door, the potential remains largely on paper policy analysts and the height the highest spend to months researching the current state of military mobility and was dismayed at his findings. definitely,

i was surprised given how many years has passed since know through the bill to me came a priority at the, at the level. nothing much has happened just to give you an example of currently at the you level the objectives to reach maximum 5 working days to get permission to cross borders. that's quite a lots, right? they want to make free for rapid reaction, forces 5 working days, waiting on paper work for each country that would need to be crossed. that's the goal. meanwhile, moscow has no such barriers, and can hire points out. the necessary changes in europe won't happen overnight, is it's a continuous process that takes years. so if we have started, i don't know, 15 years ago now, it would have been better if we started now we'll see in 4th and the results may be in 10 years. general hodges says the new military plans to be adopted at nato's bill. me, a summit should lead to a big improvement because possible more time responsibilities will be assigned by regions reducing transport times. but he's still worried to everybody gets serious

and understands why this is to the benefit of the alliance for terence is going to continue to be seen as some sort of a bureaucratic, a thing that just needs to be sorted out. he says, is past time. now, to get serious a tear schultz file that report and joins us now from brussel. terry general ben hodges says that these bureaucratic hurdles can prove dangerous for need of the reasoning behind. that is quite obvious at this point in time. so why has the situation not improved as fast as experts believe it would have been necessary? there really no good answers for that. and at the same time, many answers for that. everyone who would be needed to make decisions aiming towards more military mobility is not on the same page. they don't see things with the same sense of urgency. so you've got these military planners who exercise regularly how to protect this a walkie cord, or which is often called this

a walk. you've got the by the way, for obvious reasons, but then you have to go back to the finance ministers, the transport ministers, the interior ministers to make decisions about actually changing all of the steps leading up to that point that would allow military forces to move quickly if there were crisis to hit in that area and simply nobody ever sits around the same table to make those decisions. and importantly, to allocate those funds. now, these nato e u projects that i mentioned had been ongoing for many years. they know what needs to be done and still they don't do it. so there aren't any good answers to why it hasn't happened yet. the researcher here spoke to says that even of plans were implemented right now. it could take up to 10 years before we see any results. isn't that too late? that's the problem. you never know when you would need these things to be operational and by the time something happens, it is too late. they are very much hoping that the deterrence capacity of the nato

alliance, it is enough to make sure that none of these attacks happen. but again, with the rush of proving more unpredictable than ever it's, it's really, it makes some of these researchers incredulous that projects still aren't moving even with, you know, the war. a new cream next door. because when you think about the magnitude of the projects that would need to be undertaken, you're talking about completely dismantling a tunnel and making it wider. replacing a bridge, replacing rail gauges between countries. so the trains could move quickly without having to stop and unload, which is, is very time consuming takes days. and then you've got this bureaucratic snack that the ben hodges was talking about. and you know that you would have to wait 5 days on paper work. the by the way is still hand written, not digitized, when it comes to germany, these things are just, they seem like like really you've got to get going. now if you wanted the changes to, to be ready even a decade from now as, as me, how can i have mentioned that the nato members are meeting in vilnius next week.

lots of anticipation there. when we see more concrete plans regarding military mobility is what's expected to be approved at the, at the bill. me, a summit will help with the problems of military mobility but not on these projects that we're talking about. because again, that's largely on the u and national governments side. so nato can't tell governments that they have to do this. they can just mentioned that, you know, it's a really good idea. but what we'll change is that for the 1st time since the end of the cold war, nita is going to revamp how it plans its reaction in case of a threat. and that means that there will be hubs in, in different regions of, of nato territory. and they would be responsible for moving equipment, you know, in, in the near vicinity. so you wouldn't be talking about moving heavy equipment, moving tanks, moving forces such long distance as there's going to be much better plans, much more precise plans for how you'd, you'd guard different regions. so that will help help the problem of military immobility. it will still be up to national governments to take these decisions on

improving their own infrastructure. lots of moving parts there. terry schultz in brussels. thank you so much. let's take a look now and some of the other stories making news around the world. the bell of rudy and military has revealed a field camp is as offered to rush as wagner groups, the mercenaries were due to relocate developers under a deal that ended their mutiny last month. but bella, ruth says, wagner officials have yet to inspect the former military base south of mintz. japan's no clear regulator has approved a release of more than a 1000000 tons of radioactive water from the destroy, focusing on nuclear plants into the pacific ocean. china oppose the decision. the international atomic energy agency says it will have next to no impact on the environment. the state of emergency is in force and for route because of interrupting volcano, a crews are preparing to relocate thousands of people that will be no small k, no has been spewing ash and talks and gas. the last major russian was 4 years ago

to thousands of opposition. supporters and kenya have protested tax increases. police fired tear gas into a crowd marching into the business district and the capital, nairobi, the government and post tax hikes. just when many canyons are already struggling with rising prices. of the central commodities rights group, say police have arrested dozens of activists nationwide. let's cross right over to our correspondence. felix lane, i'm a ringer, he's in nairobi. felix, you were add the protest. how was the situation on the streets today? so they protested, began slowly in the morning bots towards the afternoon they gained momentum. the opposition lead the match with the protest. i'll come with quincy drones, which is just outside. they will be uh, they had that meeting and they started to much to watch this central business district of that particular point. it's where police fire got kind of the size of

the protest of the protest. those felt at stones of the police and the thought became for they kind of running bottles for the better part of that process. but also in other parts of a country they'll, uh, people who are addressed that by police in the morning they had barricaded roads. they had lots of fires across the country. and some of both what i've seen, you arrested and i've now in custody is what exactly are protestors out on the streets demanding. so the main thing that protests of i demanding is to lot that the government a lot of the cost of living, however, their position has also been pushing for an expense on and to the loyalty party of democratic space where they say that they come in to the gym has actually been shrinking the democratic space, and so they're asking for the democratic space to be expanded. the protest of also ones that electronic all the phones are done and we spoke to a number of protest of. this is what they had to see us because to pick up in their

minds. if we sit quietly and do nothing and my life and my future will be affected, i won't be able to achieve my goals and my silence, but it is part of my kids to to. that's why i'm protesting fine because the amount of physical amount a month. me, me keep what time would you like to see change is the cost of living to go down and commodity prices to become to the team. i then wrote this have not affected me for how i have earned my daily weight and we'll let that guy go out or be one of the protests to go on. even if we do not make any money today. because we're here to all right. and felix, where could these protests go from here? you think so from here the opposition has launched a citizen driven process whereby they will be we are hoping to collect $10000000.00 signatures, which they said they will use the signatures to us, the president and the deputy from office as to whether or not what will happen,

if them is a case of wait and see, secondly, they have promised that they put the protest will be going on in the weeks to come . so they will announce the dates. and after that the protest i will be back to the street. so that's is what will happen from here explaining, lorraine, good and narrow. we thank you so much. it's almost 10 months since the death of a young woman in police custody spark mass protests across iran. and while frustration remains high and official crackdown has cost large demonstrations in most areas, but not everywhere and the southeastern problem, and system and baluchistan, for example, close to the borders with afghanistan and pakistan, resistance against the regime and tear on remains, fears the regional capitals i've done, people still take to the streets every friday rights group, say the balloon minority. there has faced discrimination and refreshing for decades . modem, marion,

logged on as the director of iran human rights in oslo. and i asked him how the regime has dealt with the protest in the system and below interest on yes, thanks for having me here. so as, as the, you mentioned that pro biologist on is the place where to protest to continue out there. and 9 months, it's the 40th friday come on the streets. and based on our reports, previous p about one here, just about the 582 people who were queued on the streets doing the put this, they come from biologist on and i to refuse to continue. there are mass arrest. we be here reports as a risk every single day and the uh, and they do basically whatever they can to stop this process that they haven't managed, people come on the streets and it say hi, providers, response fail to quell the pro 10. what you see in the phone,

the wrong people are fed up with their oppressive version that is incompetent to solve people's daily problems. and especially among the ethnic minorities, they are fed up with that and being 2nd class citizens. so the difference between beverages and the rest of the country is that value, just because people do have a leader, it would be just typical that the after and i need please the friday, the soon the preferred the prayer of a 0 had done many by the which is regarding rosa lead to, i'm daily centering and the regime is afraid of pushing too much. they are afraid of going for the more that'd be himself. so. so i think they really seem has more of a challenge in coping with the people in biologist and right now. yeah. the sunni minority there says that they face discrimination and repression. and that the situation has

been like that for years. can you describe briefly, maybe what life is like for students in a run? what do you know news soon? these are between to because you to between 10 and 20 percent of your us population . so it's basically the largest religious minority, but a part of the discrimination is according to the law. uh so that, you know, we have a just allow me to complete but she is telling me to call they know so need, can take any top political positions for individuals history. but at the same time, we see we also see that so many areas are among the poor is a more marginalized part of the country. and that's practically a discrimination that a, you know, doing to share that well. and of course in what they have, their language is the not to respect it. their traditions are not respected and

that regime has a sick to a t in looks at people in sonya regions. yeah, we don't have much time, but i do want to ask you this because out, have you focus was on women's rights in the recent mass protests that swept the country. is that also the case in, in sustainable interest on? yeah, i think the main focus was going on cities and being treated as 2nd class citizens, so that's one side as women, but the also a clinic and religious minorities have been treated then 2nd class citizens. so i think that's a major issue that was just done with a mary margaret, i'm director of around human rights and also thank you so much for your time. you some sports now, the women's world cup is now less than 2 weeks away in germany are playing their final warm up game later against them be out before they slide australia. no matter

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