a far as you assume about commitment and hope about visions and the people behind the verb and catastrophe. climate change starts july 13th on dw, the. the ukrainian military's attempts to push russian forces back so far can best be measured, not in kilometers or miles, but rather in meters and feet. the front lines are not shifting much because the russians have dug in their heels. deep, long trenches that can best be targeted and cleared with cluster. munitions is a weapon that is male high on keeps wish list a weapon that washington is now ready to deliver. despite some real reservations, i bridge off in berlin. this is the day the,

the rush was using custom mission to it. between the age of ukraine is fighting for their life. we are giving them as much help as humanly possible. it is for individual allies to make decisions on what type of weapons. so clearly a capability that would be useful in any type of offensive operations that ukraine is using customization to protect itself against an aggressive also coming up, nato says that it is prepared to defend its eastern border against any russian threat, but with bureaucratic red tape. get in the way it's, it's a continuous process that takes years. so if we have started, i don't know, 15 years ago now it would have been better if we started. now we'll see in 4th and the results maybe in 10 years into our view is watching on tv as in the

united states and to all of you around the world. welcome. we begin today with the us preparing to send a new shipment of weapons to ukraine. the contents are as controversial as any since the russians invasion of ukraine began. military aid worth $800000000.00 is expected to include cluster munitions which keeps as are necessary to clear the trenches. russians are using to hold the front lines. cluster munitions had been widely ban. they can be used in many forms to kill large numbers of civilians indiscriminately. and they can turn landscapes into mine fields, particularly dangerous for children of the graveyard dismissals and hockey's the remnants of russian munition to have devastated civilian life in pulse of ukraine. among them, the rockets used to launch cluster bones, a large number of small explosives, the packed into these containers and released me to with the potential to close

extensive damage to an area the size of a city block such as hit in cost, intuitive cost assist. you new cranes dot net screech, and which was his in march this year by cluster bombs. local find, find to is trying to contain the damage undetected cluster munitions that don't explode. can also name will kill people. decades later, we're closely coordinating with ukraine as it has requested these munitions. ukraine is committed to post conflict, the mining efforts to mitigate any potential harm to civilians. and this will be necessary, regardless of whether the united states provides these munitions or not, because of russia's widespread use of cluster munitions. human rights watch says base russia and ukraine have used cluster munitions. so fall in the conflict and has cooled for both sides to stop immediately. but the w corresponding economy has

more now one, why keep wants than us to supply it with cluster munitions? of the, i think that number one argument is that russia has been using the throughout, in larger numbers than ukraine has. and they would say, if anyone should stop using these munitions, it should be the russians and 0. that is a clear kind of face of your country with more results is with more different types of options. should be the 1st to take that step. i think it's also important to kind of zoom out of it. the bigger picture from the ukraine perspective is that they already feel like they've been limited in lots of things they can do. they have their hands tied behind their backs in a way, try to protect that country. they're not allowed to use less than weapons against russian territory. they haven't been given the kind of claims or helicopters that would allow them to protect different lines that the rest of the using the new los numbers. and these because that emissions, all these cluster bombs, an option, they are basically available in serial numbers in the us. also those that wouldn't be any running time. they could be quickly delivered. they don't take any special

training or preparations. that is something that could make a huge difference to your credit comprehensive right now, rather than these more complex, expensive technologies that take a little longer and full of kind of political problems about people, different countries not wanting to give their permission for these systems to be transferred to this is that what kind of real option for you kind of the time where they all having real problems trying to push through those resolutions that are being built up as the last 6 months or so. as for the kind of longer term impacts in the day, just civilians. i think these battlefields and ukraine already so heavily affected by mines by booby trapped by all kinds of left of munitions that there is going to have to be a huge camp operation off off of this war. as soon as the active fucking has ended, and they're always going to be areas where civilians are going to be kept household for years to come. so i think this doesn't really qualitatively change situation because this is a situation people already living with where we see civilians losing lynn's being killed day and day out trying to you know, go for water or click firewood. so this is not necessarily

a new kind of escalation in terms of it's dangerous to civilian population. well, enjoying the l by rows go to most as the former nato deputy secretary. she is now with carnegie's nuclear policy program. we appreciate you taking the time to talk with us tonight. i want to ask you 1st about chemical weapons today this friday. the final stocks of us chemical weapons are scheduled to be destroyed. when that happens, there will be no more known stocks of chemical weapons anywhere on the planet for efforts to limit weapons proliferation is today. one of those rare moments to celebrate i do think it is indeed a red letter day in the cold war period and even before beginning in more, more more countries around the world. us as are the united states, japan, others produced major stocks of chemical weapons. and so for the united states today to be able to say that it has finally disposed of great cost as great technical and political effort of its tons of chemical weapons is

a big deal. i will say though, that chemical weapons are still being destroyed around the world. for example, in china, the japanese loved many chemical weapons after world war 2 and they are still eliminating those weapons. so there is still work to be done in this area. let me ask you about nuclear weapons. now the west is concerned about russia moving some of the it's nuclear weapons to build a roof. what concerns you most about this? to my mind, this is most mostly a proliferation problem. a problem of the proliferation of nuclear weapons rather than an increased nuclear threat to nato and to europe. already the russians have missiles that are nuclear tips that can range each of the nato capitals in europe was in minutes. and so this is not an effective new threat in that sense. however, you know, bill roost at the close of the cold war became a non nuclear weapon states under the nonproliferation treaty and it pledged not

tablets or weapons on its territory. of course the current leader lucas shank over versus promises and now pollutant has prop apparently has brought mr. weapons back . developers as well as nuclear training for vitamin c and troops. so i think it's a, it's a bad thing from the perspective of the nonproliferation regime. i don't think it really is a maintenance or risk nato enter your i'm just gonna ask you, you know, looking through your, your nato glasses. do you see this impacting the war in ukraine at all? or in terms of the nuclear weapons developers, i really do not think it will impact the more and ukraine per se, because for all nuclear saber rattling, he has actually been a very cautious about using nuclear weapons. i think he's been tempted at times, but other major leaders particular president, gigi thing have, have warmed him off of that. and in addition, president biden has as talked about the severe consequences,

but also been very clear about the strength and reliability of the us defense and the terms profile. so i think that was decided, it's a bad idea to use the clear weapons in ukraine, and i think of as a deployment in dollars doesn't make a big difference to that decision. the deployment in bella re, so as you said, it is an example of build bruce reneging on an agreement ukraine. we know the back of the 1990s agreed it to give up its nuclear weapons. many say, had it not done that, it would have never been attacked by russia. are there be? are we seeing some hard lessons learned right now? i don't think so. in fact, i disagree with that argument. you know, what happened back at the break up, the soviet union was the thousands of nuclear weapons were left on the territory of ukraine, also called hooks dom territory and a few hundreds in dollars. so each of those countries agreed to essentially send

those weapons back to a russell for dismantlement. and in the case of those, a few 100 were be deployed, but most of them were eliminated. and that was a good move at the time it really cut the number of nuclear weapons in the world. but in addition to which is at the time refrain have refused to hand backups. nuclear weapons, it would have been in an early conflict with the russian federation, and it would have, uh, i think, lost its opportunity for a strong and independent states to take shape. instead, it's gain 30 years in order to really form itself as an independent country that is able to fight for its life. as we see today, of course, i regret the terrible aggression of russia in this case. but it's not the fact that ukraine gave up its nuclear weapons in 199394. that is to blame. rose it goes to molar former nato. deputy secretary. we appreciate your time and your valuable insights tonight. thank you. thank you. nato leaders will meet next week. i on

the agenda, membership for ukraine and sweden, besides enlargement. there is also a key question, is native capable of dealing with any threat from russia? a former us general offered dw news, an answer? no. i know, maintains it's got allies completely covered. nathan will protect every inch of allied territory. but candidate nato has forces in fire power, pre positioned in 8 allies along its eastern flank. but if russia were to attack, for example, the narrow gaps between bela ruth and colleen and grad known as the so walkie corridor, with the aim to cut off the baltic states. if we cannot move fast, the, i think this is very dangerous that the russians can see, and they're aware that we could not get to. let's say this a walking car door for the full sean gate down in romania as fast or faster than russian federation forces could give their retire, general bene hodges as an expert in military mobility. and to his chagrin,

immobility from the years he was charged with insuring american troops and their equipment could respond quickly to threats loads of red tape and lack of transport capacity top to his list of lows. you cannot even live a couple your fashion journey without special permissions. there's not enough real cars in the cargo. don't you buy a cargo to move more than one and a half are remember gauge. that's all over europe simultaneously. that's nothing compared to what we would need. and then there's the lack of inter governmental communication. hodges recalls a special moment in 2017. when you as paratroopers were dropped into full guerria for a training exercise. we discovered in the last minute that the ball gary and ministry of interior are responsible for their borders. what was going to have officials out on the drop zone and expect to see the passport of every parents river as if they had just gotten off a little tons of flight. and i was like you watching. another issue is

infrastructure such as bridges and roads that can't bear the weight of heavy tanks or tunnels, which are too narrow. fixing these problems was long ago identified as a key area where nato into europe in union could and actually had to work together . the alliance needs the access, the you has control over regulations and funds for logistical upgrades in member states. but after years of plans, task forces and projects and now war next door, the potential remains largely on paper policy analysts and a heikki hi, a spend to months researching the current state of military mobility and was dismayed at his findings. definitely, i was surprised given how many years has passed since know through the ability me came a priority at the, at the you level, nothing much has happened just to give you an example of currently at the you level the objectives to reach maximum 5 working days to get permission to cross borders. that's quite a lots, right?

they want to make free for rapid reaction forces 5 working days, waiting on paper work for each country that would need to be crossed. that's the goal. meanwhile, moscow has no such barriers and get higher points out. the necessary changes in europe won't happen overnight. this is a continuous process that takes years. so if we have started, i don't know, 15 years ago now we have been better if we started now we'll see in 4th and the results may be in 10 years. general hodges says the new military plans to be adopted at nato's bill. me a summit. should we do a big improvement because possible war time responsibilities will be assigned by regions reducing transport times. but he's still worried to everybody gets serious and understands why this is to the benefit of the alliance for terrorists is going to continue to be seen as some sort of a bureaucratic, a thing that just needs to be sorted out. he says,

is pass time. now to get serious a terry shield she found that report. she joins me now from brussels. terry, if the logistics are not working that well there i ask how the reinforcing of native forces in eastern europe is progressing well, those 2 things are connected. brandon, one of the reasons why pre positioning is so important is because the military knows it can't move that quickly. so these countries along the eastern flank and nato allies themselves agree that it's important to put things there already so that they don't have to move them quickly. and then with rush of becoming all with it ever more unpredictable and you know, making snap movements like this. that is really important that you don't have to try to find enough german trained cars to move your brigades. that's really something that nato has taken into consideration, and that's why they have these enhanced forward presence troops. now, along the eastern flank countries are countries such as germany doing and not the

us has by far the biggest route contingent in eastern europe. well, when it comes to military mobility, germany often comes up as, as an example of where things could be done better. it is one of the countries that takes the longest to move across, because each uh, each region of germany needs its own paper work. i mean, this is one of the reasons why as my high key high a pointed out, it takes 5 days of paper work to move across a single country. and remember, he said 3 days for the rapid reaction forces. i mean, that's almost incredible to hear your fastest spearhead troops would take 3 days. so germany really needs to upgrade his paper work at the moment. it's not even digitize. these are, we're really talking about signing papers by hand and delivering them. it seems they could do a lot better with this. yeah. you have to fax your weapons and the process. and i'm wondering how much is all of this going to be discussed um, at the nato summit next week. or if there's a lot on the agenda at the nato summit,

they're going to approve thousands and thousands of pages of new plans. the biggest revamp of the alliance since the cold war and some of those changes are going to make the, the, the lack of military mobility a little bit less concerning. and that is because they are going to pre position more forces, more or more equipment along the eastern flank. they're also going to make regional hubs, so that, so that different areas of nato territory would be responsible for, for their near vicinity. so you wouldn't have to think about moving things such a far distance. so that's going to help a lot. and there is, of course, this burning question is we've been going to get the green light to join data. it's considered highly unlikely at the moment that turkey would agree to grant a grant sweet, the next session. and remember, you've also got hungry hanging out there saying it won't be the last but you know, is getting down to,

to the very final moments now. so i would say heading into this weekend where there are going to be negotiations going on between turkey and suite. and then there's a meeting on monday between the swedish prime minister and the target presented are to pay of everyone. i mean, that's really where, where we're going to know the final, the final bill here, whether everyone can be convinced with help from the united states to let's, we've been in. but everything i heard today at nato headquarters was, was pretty pessimistic. this can still happen at vilnius either he's very sholtes with the leaves tonight from brussels, is always fairy. thank you. so many elderly people are lonely. they don't have, they don't have friends, they contrast, they need someone who gives them unconditional love and has no agenda. is just unconditionally back to support them. to that was janet adams, an executive in the tech sector, showing how

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