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2nd entry, the dw news live and from berlin tonight, us cluster munitions headed for you. craig, the white house, waiting out the case for sending thousands of the controversial weapons to help team. and it's fine against the russians. saying this is the right thing to do. also coming up ahead of the nato summit, questions about membership for ukraine and sweden, and there are bigger questions over the alliance as capabilities and us general telling dw nears nato is not ready to face any threat from russia and
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humans to provide assistance and support. and will not be replacing any existing jobs, plus those words reassuring words from robots as a united nations a i summit, but these robots also say they could one day run the world better than people. the i bring golf, it's good to have you with us. the united states says it is sending cluster munitions to ukraine to help keep fights the russian invasion. the white house is saying that president biden made the difficult decision today to supply the controversial weapons because it's quote, the right thing to do. more than a 120 countries have band cluster munitions, cluster bombs, because they kill and maim indiscriminately. human rights groups have the keys, both ukrainian rush of using them in the war. they oppose sending any more of these
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weapons to you. great. for the pentagon says that he has given insurance is over the dangers to civilians are working with ukraine to minimize the risk associated with the decision. ukrainian government has offered us assurances in writing on the responsible use of dpi, cm's, including that they will not use around in civilian populated urban environments and that they will record where they use these rounds, which will simple 5 later the mining efforts. ukraine also has committed to post conflict, the mining efforts to mitigate any potential harm to civilians. i asked our washington bureau chief municipal, how the, by the ministration is justifying supplying cluster munitions to ukraine and the white house and depend on uh, brian defend of the years of dressing bonds by siding ukraine's products of ad tillery wrongs and restaurants ongoing use of these weapons in their attacks, actually since the beginning of the war,
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the national security advisor jake sullivan, just said that delivering these munitions basically will be buying time until ukraine has enough traditional unison to defend itself. he also mentioned the support of allies who have spent the use of trusted them through have been talking about them. and it actually specifically was highlighting germany saying that germany and other countries would recognize the distinction between ukraine's use of these munitions for self defense against a russian has a text on a sovereign nation, particularly civilian targets. and you've been following this story for a while, as we know where the official narrative coming out of the white house is. is there anything behind that of the world runs? you know, there is no doubt the ukrainians are running out of your nation. but on top of that,
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our concerns that the count to offensive is not from caressing us anticipate. so then this potentially might give protein an advantage. you know, the crime is somewhat running out of time also because of the weather. as october marks the start of the muddy season and that will make it much harder for tangs to leave roads. and additionally, on top of everything was a u. s. presidential race approaching. it might be also become more challenging for the presidential biden to maintain the sort of strong support for ukraine as he has to focus on his own country's immediate needs to secure his re election. and this definitely would make a will make the war or the defense of ukraine much, much harder or washington bureau to be this. but with the latest from there it is. thank you. scrubbing person is
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a professor of international relations at the us military academy at west point. he shared his take on sending cluster munitions to you. great. i think um, you know, 1st i'll start out by, by noting that these are my personal views, not the official position of the us government or military. but in this case, i do think that the administration's justification is accurate. of course, these are controversial weapons. they have a controversial history that your previous correspondent noted. and so there is certainly concern about their use during the fight and certainly afterward. but of course, we have to recognize that this is a situation that is the consequence of true necessity on ukraine's part. uh, they continue to be in a fight for their survival and base. certainly, i think are justified in seeking every means available to them to continue that
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fight against a larger adversary. it's also a matter of necessity because of the shortage of conventional artillery rounds that we've been hearing about for well over a year as, as ukraine and its partners and allies of scoured of the globe for unused shells. and so, you know, with these cluster munitions, though, they are somewhat more complicated and controversial than traditional artillery, munitions on in award that has been defined by the dominance of artillery. if new crane is to continue making games and it's offensive, then it really does have few remaining options beyond this. native leaders meet next week, tying on the agenda membership for ukraine and sweden and besides enlargement. there's also a key question is native capable of dealing with any threat from russia? a former us general offered dw news, an answer,
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no. a need to maintain its got allies completely covered, nato will protect every inch of allied territory. but candidate, nato has forces in fire power, pre positioned in 8 allies along its eastern flank. but if russia were to attempt, for example, the narrow gaps between belarus and colleen and grad known as this, a walking corridor with the aim to cut off the baltic states. if we cannot move fast enough, i think this is very dangerous. if the russians can see, and they're aware that we could not get to, let's say this a walking car door for the full sean gate down in romania as fast or faster than russian federation forces could give their retire. general ben hodges is an expert in military mobility and to his chagrin, immobility from the years he was charged with ensuring american troops and their equipment could respond quickly to threats. loads of red tape and lack of transport
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capacity topped his list of blows. you can not even live a couple your passion journey without special permissions. there's not enough real cars in the cargo. don't you buy a cargo to move more than one and a half are remember gauge that all over europe simultaneously? that's nothing compared to what we would need. and then there's the lack of enter governmental communication. hodges recalls a special moment in 2017. when you as paratroopers were dropped into full guerria for a training exercise. we discovered in the last minute that the bulgarian ministry of interior are responsible for their borders. we're going to have officials out on the drop zone and expect to see the passport of every parents river as if they had just got off a live times a flight. and i was like, you watch. another issue is infrastructure such as bridges and roads that can't bear the weight of heavy tanks or tunnels, which are too narrow. fixing these problems was long ago identified as
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a key area where nato into europe can union could and actually had to work together . the alliance needs the access, the you has control over regulations and funds for logistical upgrades and member states. but after years of plans, task forces and projects and now war next door, the potential remains largely on paper policy analysts and the height the highest spend to months researching the current state of military mobility and was dismayed at his findings. definitely, i was surprised given how many years has passed since know through the video to me came a priority at the, at the level. nothing much has happened just to give you an example of currently at the you level the objectives to reach maximum of 5 working days to get permission to cross borders. that's quite a lots, right? they want to make free for rapid reaction, forces 5 working days, waiting on paper work for each country that would need to be crossed. that's the goal. meanwhile, moscow has no such barriers,
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and can hire points out. the necessary changes in europe won't happen overnight, is it's a continuous process that takes years. so if we have started, i don't know, 15 years ago now, it would have been better if we started now we'll see in 4th and the results may be in 10 years. general hodges says the new military plans to be adopted at nato's bill. me, a summit should lead to a big improvement because possible more time responsibilities will be assigned by regions reducing transport times. but he's still worried to everybody gets serious and understands why this is to the benefit of the alliance for terrorists is going to continue to be seen as some sort of a bureaucratic uh, thing that just needs to be sorted out. he says, is past time. now to get serious and we've got some breaking news coming in as the judge prime minister mark rudy has resigned. is coalition government tonight
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failing to reach agreement on immigration policy is router is the netherlands longest serving leader. and he presided over what's turned out to be unsuccessful. crisis talks among the governments for coalition partners from di or from war. now we want to cross over the journalists, gordon, derek hughes into the hague, gordon, the world looking at this and asking why did the prime minister feel like you had to say he's going to resign over this? what if i just noticed the prime minister, the entire cabinet has resigned or this evening, and it's because the full post and the coalition, as he said, couldn't come to an agreement on how to reform or that even did the asylum, immigration system, particularly for incoming asylum, seekers and after several weeks of talk says football, she's agreed mutually. they couldn't go forward. and mister richard as accessible officers his resignation to the king collectively tomorrow morning,
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saratoga springs, the sticking points here. what? what proved to be a bridge too far for these 4 partners. so we have some thoughts from the coalition and there is actually to right wing parties, which is mr. which is the liberal, paul to you today. and the christian democrats said they wants to much honda line and on immigration and to restrict the numbers of asylum seekers coming in, particularly mister richard, who was under pressure from his own policy and its own members of parliament. on the other side, you got 2 more progressive policies, the more the centrist liberals are the 66 and the christian union who wanted a more humane approach to asylum. they argue that said that we should be more emphasis on integrating asylum seekers and refugees foster and processing their claims foster into the system. and these were policies couldn't reach a deal. and the real sticking point turned out to be whether or not as long as he could. so who are already in the country who already have this on the plane last. could them bring their families over now, the mr. which is the policy in the christian democrats wanted to limit that limit
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the numbers and make it more difficult for those families to come and join the family members in the netherlands. and they made an offer to the other 2 policies, which shows that they couldn't accept and prove to be irreconcilable. and so now we've got a government that's collaborative, prime minister resigning that means new general was a new general election. sometimes this year is sometimes yeah, the local council have said that it should be sometime in november. so that means that the government will carry on uh, on the cash like a basis form that i think what is it for 5 months? um, and they will have to muddle through the subject to you in september, and they will have to come up with some kind of income deal and various other issues mister richard said that on crucial issues account weights like, for example, scope, ukraine, that wouldn't be effective but yes, certainly, that's the position that when the, the elections won't be until november. but i've got about 30 seconds left. want to ask you and can you give us a prediction on how the elections will,
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will turn out in november? because this is the migration asylum seekers. it's a hot button issue all over your this is very much all about lucy will certainly be able to get see during the election their parties to the right to mr. which is the policy looks capitalize on us and try and make gains and other kinds of less than products as well. they've done veteran recent elections the to the, to the senate and they will hope to do to improve deposition. i think it will be a very hotly contested issue under the production is very hard. those we have the fondest, positive came on over the whole farm. you see the last couple of years. they're doing very strongly in the polls. they could well overtake basically like journalists, according to your, with the latest developments coming out of the netherlands tonight. it's gordon. thank you. and just to recap the breaking news. the prime minister of the netherlands says that he is going to resign his entire government now resigning, unable to reach an agreement on immigration policy. and let's get you
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a reminder of the top story that we're following for you. in addition to that, the us sending cluster bombs to ukraine. whitehouse as the president vice, made the difficult decision to supply the controversial weapons because it was the right thing to do. you're watching the news have a good weekend. everybody. wireless surprises. we've got all out to give you some of the right people in your northern most count the police the free time but still very much alive.
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