of the frame hold on, we are with you currently know when it me inside starts july 8th on dw the this is dw use line from the in turkey give it's backing to ukraine in nato meeting with the ukranian leda president had one says keep deserves membership. in the alliance, but it's unclear if he'll agree to sweeten joining when david makes next week. the cost of on it's causing controversy. us president joe biden defense sending the

weapons to help keep fund health broncho saying it's the right thing to be working alongside humans, to provide assistance and support and will not be replacing any existing jobs. reassuring woods above inside the un, somebody on the honest actual intelligence road, let's say they could, one's a run the world's better than not the i've been physical and welcome ukrainian president of the mesa landscape has visited talking to rally support for his country's bid to join nasal, as to the 1st time he received strong backing from touch, as president brought to tie a bad one. after their meeting, it assembled at once said there was no doubt ukraine does up to become a member of the military alliance talk. he's attempted to keep close relations with

both you quite in russia. everyone expects a visit from his russian count about letting me put in in the next month. yeah, well, i'll start correspondent jury and jones about the timing of everyone's decision. as i think that sees is a part of a one's very careful balancing act that he's perform since the onset of the conflict. he's will be giving very strong support to ukraine providing of a key military drones, which was crucial in the early days of the campaign. to hold off brushes offensive, but the same time has refused to full sanctions against russia. and again, was seen this hall bowl balancing act, strong support for ukraine of it's nice to be likely to upset russia. but at the same time, he will use that to his defense, to gaze. critics who say the touchy shopping pull sanctions against russia inside is very important for russia. the talk he remains a sanction free country because it's so important for the russian economy. does anyone want to or is it trying to strengthen his own role in nato in some way here?

i think that's also a key factor because at the moment the other one is a blocking sweden's membership, the aspirations, in spite of massive pressure from all the key leaders of nathan, the whole being cooling one. and that pressure is expected to step up at the villainous summit next week. and the other one is still standing firm saying he wants more from sweet. and he doesn't believe sweet is addressing kentucky security concern of this support for ukraine. but it's membership. it's also show how important stuckey is a key nato. remember. so again, this is all about good ones, very careful balancing act and his names of getting the turkeys each end achieved. and could that balancing act at some stage include sweden, a yes, absolutely. i to he does have a list of the bonds from sweden to crack down on the cutty separate his groups a p k k which should be fighting the texas state that that case they want to major legal cracked down on their activities and sweden,

but turkey also has the moms from the united states and i'm anyway, that is the key. i am for turkey, they want the key u. s. military fight to get sailed to be secure. and also i think i was looking for an invite from by them to washington wine. that's the only us president never to invite to tuckers, president kentucky from turkey old to visit tuck in a while. he was very upset about that. so he will be looking from concessions from biden, as well as part of a, an eventual agree we expect to the agreement. the sweeting join uh, nato. next week. enjoy and you mentioned add juan and ross. hey, he wants to negotiate an extension to the black sea grain export deal from ukraine . what, what's the latest on those screen exports? yeah, other one spoke at length of the price comes in switzerland ski. he's calling for russia to extend the green deal and make it longer than the the current every 2 months. he said it should be longer, it should be 3 months. he said his great deal is who can pull to the world in terms

of over 13000000 tons of great, happy and exposed to particularly the countries most indeed in africa, i'm not seen as a very important one. is he in the united nations bro, could the deal. so he will be using his influence on must go to persuade them to open the open with the continue that green deal. and he's also announced that he expects to, to, to be visiting kentucky next month. so again, it's on the schools, i'm anyway, so it's one, it's in this unique position of having very close tied with both the ukranian and the russian leaders. and that's uh, expertise and improves will be used everyone including united nations to possibly extend the grading deal. i like to this month, the w corresponding dorian joins great chatting as always, as the united states, as sending cost of new nations to ukraine under an $800000000.00 military, a package, the weapons a band by most countries, but not the us, russia or ukraine human rights groups, one unexploded cost of munitions,

can remain a risk to civilians for years. us president joe biden has defended the decision. us president joe biden said it was the right thing to do when he signed off on sending close to buttons to ukraine. the one now more than 100 countries have banned the use of cluster bombs. once fired they scott to into dozens of smaller ponds that control over an area the size of a football field. the smaller explosives often failed to designate on impact and compose a risk to civilians, particularly children for years off to they use the white house that it was a difficult decision to make, but that they have a showing says from ukraine that the weapons will be used in a way that minimizes risk to civilians avoid doing the use in populated up in areas

and recording the location. ukraine is committed to post conflict, the mining efforts to mitigate any potential harm to civilians. and this will be necessary, regardless of whether the united states provides these munitions or not. because of russia is widespread use of cost through munitions. but human rights groups and even fellow democrats have condemned the decision. they say russia is use of the weapon does not justify the move. it's also being pointed out by human rights watch, among others that ukraine itself has used cluster munitions in the past. critics will on the to the us and says controversial weapon to keep. it will only bring more destruction to ukraine. i asked security analysts to us, the goal is if the us as a session that it's close to bones have a low

a failure rate justifies they use and you cry. well, it depends from budget point of view. you're located, the u. s. claims, they have a so called the rate of 2.35 percent compared to 40 percent for russian cluster munitions. and nobody really knows of the outside the us military. how you can exactly find out what the say low rate is. so at this point the, we just have to believe them. this of cause minimizes the risk fault civilians, but there still remains the risk. the other problem here, of course, is the indiscriminate nature of these weapons when they 1st go off. yeah, well that's right. but on the other hand, this applies to almost every weapon you fire in a certain direction. ukraine has a rule that they will adhere to 5 principles for the use, among other things, only using this against the russian military installations against russian troops.

not again civilian, that's one of the main differences. as we've seen in the past, the ross, i have used this type of immunization against urban areas against civilians in ukraine. but what's it mean for the russian hill territory is that new claim wants to take back. what about the people living say in don't bass or crime you or does that mean? and so that is this area as well. be subject to, to a text that says type of the annual nursing. on the other hand, if you see this address and on the ground, the arrows are heavily mind any way. they are scattered mom, blood from russian clubs to immunization. so it sounds almost to nicole by the con, get much sugars in these areas. we talked about, it's interesting that these weapons are banned by so many countries, but not the us. oh, russell. oh ukraine. what, what's that tell you about ukraine?

well, it's not only of these countries. you mentioned also some european countries which in nato and which i envy you, they do not band these weapons because they see them as a weapon of the last resort of, for instance, is telling me all the small a baltic countries. they claim that if they are subject to a russian attack, they will have to make use of these type of weapon. so there is, um, you know, the impression and certain countries that you have to keep this fall the worst case a width and of last resort a. so is that why the us as decision has come now 60 months into this full as well? this decision now shows and now the dangerous and weakness of the western country is uh, one of the reasons that biden mentioned, as well as the security advisor drake sullivan. is that the west is not able to

speed up production of conventional municipal for ukraine. so about fold folds. ukraine does not get in of the auto remind me in unison, for instance, which a means of that. there is a kind of at the us called the bridging solution to more traditional ammunition can be delivered. but tell us what sort of signal does that send to the rest of the world? well, you might say it's kind of a dangerous signal, because a majority of countries in the world says the, these weapons are a no go, they should not be used and still as they are. so this of course might open the door to, to have a look at all those stuff which is banned on the, into the international conventions. if you look at and t pers no land mines, for instance, the u. s. also has not signed the convention, which in bands of the use of land mines and says we won't use them except in korea

. we're solving north korea have to be kept apart. which means um, some countries just resolved the right to use a weapon. so the majority of countries things are not to be used. okay, general is stand security analysts to las vegas. thank you very much for the timing in here on the w and use. thank you. the robots have told the united nation summit, they could one day run the world better than us. some of the most advanced humanoids ever built to center stage friday at a conference in switzerland. one thing that robots could lead to more efficient and effective leadership than humans. but be assured that not planning a rebellion, yet anyone concerned about the impacts, the artificial intelligence will have on human kind might be able to see political easier tonight at the you and i, i so good summit to in geneva,

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