of the with this war of aggression, luxury and food in that hope to devise nato. when he got within the lines that grew closer, unexpended. but nato's annual sum into unity is once again put to the test ukraine . one's been gathering in vilnius to show that it's already a de facto member, but the road to actual membership is promising to be a bumpy one. of some member states, still unwilling to lay out a definitive plan for the war torn country succession. one thing nato countries seem to agree on is that you crane will only be able to join once the finding has stopped. a new crane is pushing hard to end the war, but their counter offensive is only slowly gaining traction to all those wondering what's taking. so long, they have a clear message, give us the right weapons and that victory will come sooner. i'm the confirmation berlin, and this is the day the

wallace agreed, the ukraine, the will become a member of the lines. ukraine should be joining nato as soon as conditions allow the most urgent task. now is to ensure that to crane and prevent you such a sovereign an independent nation in the, in your, your top, the president. so once you bought the counter offensive and in some ways it's, it's, it's not going as, especially as he would like the whole of us. we one for to do it faster it, unless you claim provisions. then there is no membership, be sure to be discuss that will also on the day of green lights to sweet and joining nato secretary general and stilton burke says, turkeys presidents now backs the move is completing sweden's accession tonight

though is uninstalled except the button that fits the security of old nate dollars, at this critical time, it makes us all stronger, unsafe bridge walk into the show. your grands president's got an invitation to join the nato summit sped. will he also get an invitation to join the alliance, ukraine's prospect of becoming a natal member or at the very top of the agenda as leaders gather this week? in lithuania, many allies have already said, few crane should join after the war is one that is a new cranes. leadership has called for patience as it pushes on with his counter offensive against a dog in russian front. he hasn't been able to announce any major battlefield victory since the beginning months ago, but says every square kilometer is worth fighting for the ukraine launched at the spring offensive in june after months of anticipation. but so far gains have been modest, even president below them here is a lensky,

has acknowledged that the counter offensive has been slower than many had hoped. me see the millions, everything is easy. there are some difficulties because 1st of all, along his mind that we would like to be making bigger gains. that's smaller than what we have on these case. a look at ukraine's geography helps to explain why. for months the front line has been largely unchanged. it's thought ukrainian forces would try to push through russian lines in the south and east. one of the areas that has seen heavy fighting is around the southern town of or a cave. as satellite imagery show, the land is mostly patchwork fields. and those fields are flat on which poses specific risks for ukrainian forces trying to retake the land. it means having to cross open fields which have been heavily mind and which are exposed to fire from

the air as well as from russian troops hiding behind the tree lines. and beyond those open fields, ukrainians are encountering elaborate man made trench defenses that the russian forces had months to build. the defenders also had time to put up so called dragon's teeth to stop tanks. then there's the learning curve of in military experts, a russia has picked up from its mistakes earlier in the war and does adjusted its tactics to the conditions on the battlefield. still, analysts say ukraine's counter offensive is capable of making progress despite the unforgiving terrain. but it will take time although not lisco is a former ukrainian m p. and now a global affairs analyst who joins us tonight from london. let's, let's go good to have you on the so now you're not only very interested in this counter offensive because you're ukrainians. your own brother is fading on the front line. so if it's okay,

i'd like to ask you how he's doing and what you're hearing from him. good evening, nicole. thank you for having me. my brother is indeed fighting in the east at the moment. he's in the north east of ukraine on the mon axis. he was moved there from the southern district around the hold area where his fault is here as well, because he was part of celebration campaign of hon, give region last year. and so he was the 1st one to go into is you and the mom. and there were reports, the russians were building up troops on the north and access again. so he got there . and indeed, hearing your reports about the comforter offensive. perhaps it is now going as fast as everyone expected, including the soldiers on the front line because they are frankly not seeing the reinvigoration of the armaments and of the artillery and ammunition supply. so what this counter offensive have moved more quickly if the west had been quicker to supply more effect than weaponry? as absolutely there were, of course too impediments to the prompt and effective,

comfortable science of a new friend side one. we had a very bad spring. so the weather conditions would simply not allow for the heavy artillery to move through the terrain of ukraine. but secondly, of course, found postponement of weapons supplied the constant deliberations on artillery supplies. the tanks were seen many conversations happening there. the long range weapons, especially, and now to find 2 jobs that ukraine so desperately needs. all of those postponements gave russia a chance to a build up their own troops and supplies of weapons and be of course $4.00 to $5.00 . we're now seeing 3 to 4 lines of fortifications and my names of their territory up to 30 kilometers into they. they occupied land. so it, it is indeed very hard for soldiers to proceed. and because the human lives is the

most important passive that ukraine has, we are not treating the soldiers as a kind of folder similar to provide russians to our we're trying to, to preserve life. and that's why the country offensive is moving slower than perhaps is expected. yeah, criticism of the slow advancement of troops doesn't go unnoticed by ukrainian leadership, though. i want to play a short excerpt from a video released by the ukranian defense ministry and, and get back to you. so the,

so there we have ukraine's military leadership basically saying to you, this is all abstract. we're out here doing the finding and we know very well what we're doing now is you yourself live in the u. k. what's the most striking difference you see between how this counter offensive is perceived by outside years and how ukrainians see it? i think is just 2 different realities. it's very difficult to imagine the country of war and being able to not just be in the trenches and expires on the front line, but live in the country that is actively fighting or having someone who's risks are had lot lines are pressed every day. so the reality is indeed quite different. i, by no means can judge the people not understanding the full scale of it. but i think it's important for um, people in, in countries like the u. k or germany to understand that it is indeed not the hollywood movie or blockbuster, it takes effort. it takes dedication and it takes great sacrifice,

which are translated into human lines. mm hm. there is a lot of support and sympathy for ukraine around the world. are you worried at all the, the use of cluster munitions could damage that political capital and sees ukraine and his biggest ally in washington seed at least some of the moral high ground. and this conflict in the cluster munition provision by the united states to ukraine has caused some disarray within perhaps the nato alliance. because some countries, most of the nato countries have signed doubling convention at the balance of most countries in the world works. uh yes, uh, but the united states and russia have not, and certainly russian has been using customer munitions on the territory of ukraine, or for a year and a half of the war. now we seem to damage and repercussions of them using those weapons. my brother has come under fire of cluster munitions too,

and they are quite vicious by friends. but there is a star difference between how russia is using them and how ukraine would use them because they were targeting civilian areas. they were targeting people with um, that were living in the villages and towns that were not on the phone line, whereas ukrainians are now going to liberate occupied territories and fighting the immediate frontline with russians. and of course, if we're talking about the, the leftovers, the unexploded munitions from, from the cluster bones, it is going to be ukraine's job. and we are dedicated to that, to clear out whatever residue of weapons we have on our land. and that will include all the mines that are left behind by russians, because if you think about it for a 2nd, is ukraine's mind territory is the size of the united kingdom. it's the most heavily mind territory in the world. yeah, we do have to be careful using the conditional here because ukraine would not use

cluster munitions. there are already reports by human rights watch, for example, that have documented extensive views on ukrainian and on, on the ukrainian side as well. but i do want to move on because nato leaders started their annual meeting in vilnius tomorrow. what is your cream, me from that summit? and what do you, realistically believe is going to get to your crime? needs an invitation into valence. i think it's as simple as that. it is very reassuring to hear that the membership a action plan of the loan roadmap that was offered to you credit for has been scrapped similarly as it has been scrapped to sweden and finland last year. so that is one reassuring step. they stablish means of the nature ukraine council, or the reforming alternator commission to your current into account. so which indicates clear membership between the alliance and ukraine and partnership that could effectively translate into further membership. and those steps are really

reassuring, but i would like to be more optimistic about the summit as for now, it seems like your cream is still in the waiting room. and it still needs to prove that it's not nato expansion that threatens russia or the world order. it is actually the ambiguity that rushes thrice on. and we've seen that with both wars in georgia and in ukraine after 2 countries were denied made to membership in 2008. so hopefully this time it will rectify that. as i'm gonna miss go global affairs analyst and london. thank you for your view and for your time. thank you. all ukraine is still waiting in the wings. sweden is all set to join the defense alliance. after months of blocking stock homes, been turkey has agreed to green live sweden succession. nato secretary general

against oldenburg made the unexpected announcement on monday evening. after talks with turkish and swedish leaders ahead of the nato summit, turkey it had been holding out against suite, enjoining, accusing it of not being tough enough. i guess curtis militants, here's a nato secretary general of uh, just how the constructive meeting with post on the wrong. and the problem is the case, the drum this. i'm glad to announce that to us the results present. the other one has agreed that to forward the expression protocol for sweden to the ground national assembly as soon as possible, works closely with assembly to ensure ratification. this is the effect that the in the joint press statement just to read the bar. for instance of the wrong time is the case, the strong on myself. the memorandum come through the year to go at them. i did some, it's has deliberate. it has delivered more in our fight against terrorism,

more security for to kia and the stronger natal fiance is a non resident senior fellow at the foundation for the defense of democracies and an expert on turkish domestic politics and foreign policy and send you the welcome to the day, what do you make of this statement by nato's installed and birds? were you surprised by a turkey strange heart? well, this was kind of the high stakes drama that some of us have actually been sort of the mounting of it for a while, thinking well, he could say yes or you could say no, but we will not know until the billing is somebody looks like he's or president, our lines render a decision as well or 11th hour, depending on what your perspectives. but it'll be interesting to see what the details behind the agreement to see whether it's searchable that she resides. some of his policy goal requests. that is how to washington from washington in return for actually green lighting sweetens membership. it's also been announced that or

no on will meet us president joe biden tomorrow. so it showed we assume that means turkey has gotten what it wanted and what does it want? well, it will be interesting to see president biden can deliver on his promises to mister ireland. he's been suggesting that in return for turkey green, i think nato membership of sweden the bite and will use all of his influence to try and convince the united states congress to lift its objections for turkey, acquiring new 5 digit specific f sixteens. i'm not sure that's necessarily quit for a quote, because the us congress does have considerable oversight and will power whether it as soon as he gets these that succeed fighters or not. it will remains to be seen where the president biting can actually convince can grant congressional committees, specific, nevada and foundations committee to zip it's present objections. peter was eating for 16 projects. what's, what's this ever about sweden and it's honestly and stores kurdish militants,

or even about turkish, accession to the do something that he raised this morning, much to the surprise of his nato allies, to you know, what? no, um okay, it's it's, it's been, i think if you look at it, um, you know, this has been a very traumatic, pros, esplanade. so, but i think from thirty's perspective it has been i would argue it disasters diplomatic outreach because yes, the green that uh, the sweden's membership is the does what it's been is previously. but the 2 countries are not as necessarily going to be very so supportive of the 13th century . good board, least of all swedish support european membership which it was his. * power of, i don't think that's going to be on the issue anymore. but also look, there's considerable resentment on the part on the part of western allies to what started drawing this out for so long, particularly because it raises. so it makes essential questions on the future of the west of on specifically, what do you do with members by turkey and hungry?

who would be holding up? uh, you know, with the expansion of nato, for very sort of trivial reasons. mr. art on may or may not get what do you want, but the reputation and credibility of the traditional public in the face of native otherwise, i would argue, isn't testers at this point. however annoying to the other members of the alliance, his veto to sweden's accession gave him a tremendous amount of power though. where does he stand within the lines now without the sort of leverage? well, i don't know. i mean, you sure. i mean, look, i don't, one has made some demands off of a lot of specific united states and in that room, as we've just mentioned, in the realm of visor, widgets, whether it gets those or not, it, we still don't know if that's going to happen. we'll have to wait and see that that, you know, data side. i mean, where does turkey go from here in his relationship with the west? this is,

seems to be sort of what i would call very sort of leveraging very sort of, you know, hostage type type of diplomacy with critical into additional allies and awful walks . if turkey had, you know, specific demands towards your opinion, membership or, you know, it's continued desire to acquire new weapon systems. there was probably a way to, to go about this without essentially holding is westernized hostage. this is not the best way to actually go and proceed to national interest and i think going forward. so if you will sort of encountered a few problems in issues in isn't written in human type of what it wants to achieve . yeah, st oldenburg has said that early on made a clear commitment to swedish accession happening quote, as soon as possible. should we expect that to happen smoothly. again, we'll have to wait and see. i mean, from my reading of it started on his basically stated that he will now sort of refer this not to, to the circus parliament for ratification. we'll have to see how quickly it moves on that. but last, have to see, you know, if you know,

one of the problems to are the one, what is he going to get them a time for this? that a company, nothing. if it is, i'll be very surprised simply because of all this time he spends in the entire 12 month basically holding out the succession brokers process. so because he thinks he's going to get something out of this and it does nothing, you need me to turn that into quite a surprise. so we'll have to wait and see me. in a recent article, you wrote your recommend of nato allies, show some tough love to turkey in response to what you call hostage style diplomacy . what should and could that look like? you know, i mean, so there's been tremendous relief in europe and, and nato capital. the velocity, you know, several minutes since this announcement came. right. and, but if you look at it on face finding turkey, approving, swedish members, you've nato is not a breakthrough. is simply doing what all of us. there's one members are headed to have essentially agreed to. it's not a massive sort of compromise on turkey's part,

and this is the way to add one operates basically just saying, you know, rushing up tensions until the west essentially case. and thereby, are the ones that's the agenda until he gets what he, what he wants to achieve. out of this relationship top left could look like, look, you know, there are new, numerous new nato allies specific degrees, for example, which i saying look in return for, you know turkey's weapon sales from, from the united states. could we get some assurances that turkey was used to inspire just by typing eyes us? what about pro the cooperation on ukraine, a support of ukraine? these would be the russian invasion, but can work on the molten. we, us from turkey, specifically, remo sanctions enforcement against russia. we have any concessions out of turkey on the, on this level. and so i think the west or nato specifically, or, you know, the united states could get a much bigger bank for its book by essentially aust, kentucky to be an actual ally. and not just, you know, a proof sweetness membership, which is the bare minimum of one an hour and kind of should be able to do well. who knows? maybe they're listening,

seen on duty or the foundation for the defense of democracies. thank you so much. thank. i irena and media are reporting that a prominent wrapper, who backed and tire was in protest last year has been sentenced to more than 6 years in jail to isolate he was arrested after expressing support for the mass demonstrations triggered by the death and custody of rain and curtis woman, mazda on me, as laura said, he was convicted of corruption on earth. that's one of the most serious offenses in the, as long as republic, any other demonstrators convicted of that have been sentenced to death? i'm drawing now by give on re a member of the german parliament. she's a political sponsor for too much the le he which means she dedicated some of her time to promoting awareness of his case. welcome to the day. first of what's your reaction to the sentence?

it is very mixed because as you said before, um, it looked very dire for him. um, last november, it looked like you might get the double death sentence because one of the very severe allegations was dropped in the last couple of months. um, so on one side, the up pretty will leave that. he didn't get the desktops, but still 6 in the obvious one, somebody who is innocent of all the things that he is accused off after 6 and a half years to manage. so it's very mixed. and we don't really know how to feel about that now. um, yeah, well yeah. every day of the day too many you say other protesters convicted under this charge have been sentenced to death and executed. does this verdict mean the resume was worried maybe about public reactions to its treatment of to mar someone who has a fairly high profile in around it. definitely. um, you could see that the regime is getting very nervous. all of his court dates were

behind closed doors. we expected them to like, instrumental lies him and to publicize whatever they took out of his trial. but they did not do that. they are now fairly likely that they have been updated. they seem to be very nervous or not even last week. they started to personally attack me another politic responses to so balance 2, they seem to be very afraid and they are very well what kind of supports he has moved. wides to monitor was arrested back in november. and what can you tell us about his treatment in jail? do you know much about a situation while he was in solitary confinement for 252 days so he didn't get to see anybody else. encore, the whole length of his day and then, and prism so far. so i'm, there was, is, there is anything really positive of his day is that he got transferred to a regular prison. also, he has contract 2 of the prison inmates and he will probably get visitors and that

he might get a little bit more contact with the outside world. he got to talk to a very bad lead, as it could see in a video that was published by the ronnie resumes a and they be, they'd be a bad beat him very, very badly. and the say is, and this as of last. so you're welcome. you as much we to very nice easy to you on one of the treated well as he didn't get any editors treatment for his injury. so you know, he is not doing well right now. yeah. the you as already impose sanctions on arranging officials over this case. what should be the next step as well, um, on one side, you should never gets too relieved or too distracted. all the ones then since, because that's only one political prisoner out of more than 200000. so we should never like seeing that. that's how the region will react to all the cases. so we should watch out for too much and everybody else to you and you should like,

we should like push more politically because we see that people do the things that are working and the you have to keep working together as well as them. you should start united against tara, that's the regina's doing, and not be divided over national interest. i think that's, that's very, very important to do right now. that was given, remember of the german parliament and political sponsor for it to my salary. he, a rapper who just today received a 6 year sentence in iran over his role in the protest. they're saying, thank you so much. thank you. and that's our time. but make sure to stay informed, stay engaged and stay in touch. you'll find our team on twitter, under apps that we use, or you can follow me up. it's nicole foot for now though, from all of us here at the day. thank you so much for spending part of your day with the

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