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there is no danger to the icelandic capital for its airport. it is the 3rd volcanic eruption in as many years in the area up next, it is close up with a look at catalogs bid for independence from spain. so just stay with us that you can for that here on dw, i'm sarah kelly in berlin. thank you so much for watching. take care the interest, the global economy portfolio g w business be here's a closer look out the project. to analyze the flight for market dominance
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with dw business beyond the capital, loony or refund to the city of barcelona spectacular appear in these mountains and the beaches of the costa. bravo. the region in northeast in spain is of vacation paradise. the heat seems so a place of proud history and tradition, the spots of the lines of picturesque sights conflict to simmering many catalan's wants the region to become independent . the
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in 2017 catalans held a referendum on independence from spain. the spanish government trying to preventive costs ever since then, tensions have been running high. catalonia will never be its own country. the region is deeply divided around half the population. don't think independence is a good idea. the 2nd and you can't impose independence with only 50 percent approval, it'd be a disaster. spain's government prevents it independence in 2017, including by using force b as in other better than that. and we can never forgive them. and like, how could it come to that and to mix for testimony in the
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every, to use the old booth finding a read an entire ago now plays close to the biggest competition of cash deals for human towns. both fighting is banned in catalonia. now the stadium celebrates the regions traditional schools. side i have 2 boys to to jot a, is a strong support for of independence. she and her girlfriends have travel here from the city for those to take part in the events. we used for the 1st time with the tower builders, from sales, we proud about team b that they invited us to come along. that's kind of for them. hospitality for you . i'll be helping to build the foundation. i don't know how, but i'll do it. compare citizens big changes seeing if a triumphant and prosperous colonial, the official ent and the, the so tournaments region during the fascist dictatorship under general franco,
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the son was outlook for almost 40 years until 1975. that struggle for recognition resonates each time it sung. the push for independence has grown out of a conviction that catalans have been fighting in vain for their freedom. for centuries, the many are united by the feeling that they oppose to be spanish against the will at events like these. finally, katelyn spoken, the language plays a major role in the sales team. each of these would be nation. the,
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even the speech they come to play is charged with political significance. the human talis, which can only grow in teammates worked together symbolically powerful competitors need coverage, as they bind to create the tool as talent. the best teams can create up to 10 levels of human architecture. the, this particular castillo competition is taking place on a significant date. it's the 1st of october 2020 to exactly 5 years off to the referendum that supported sales. so nearly secure the independence. the magazine,
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a counseling nation seemed within reach the, the. ready in 2017 the castle and regional governments took a risky gamble. it scheduled a referendum to let the people decide whether they wanted to lead spain. the madrid's reaction was swift labeling the referendum is unconstitutional and sending police to prevent the voting from taking place across spain, supporters of national unity called for a crack town on the independence movements. the the police used fools to keep motors away from polling stations. monta real c k is spines, youngest, low, macon and a storage separatist. she's been fighting for catalan independence since
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childhood. the so the referendum brings up painful memories. valencia and they got done on this was violence committed against the other lines and against democracy. it was also class violence in human violence on that i then they treated us. if we were being violent, i went on, we wanted to do was vote in years and we can't possibly forgive them for that of an in my have to this day, the government claims and we were violent to others to them. violence means wanting to go and vote antibody. meanwhile, they think they'd send their police with the tons to put down on demonstrations isn't violent, but it doesn't make any sense. then they got to sign latrete. so physician, the counselor and government when to have about 90 percent of both resulted to
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secede from spain. the results was skewed because there was virtually no participation from up students of independent opinion who suggested that only positive capital ends were in favor of a separate states even so catalonia is regional, president colors preached amount declared independence. because he didn't the natalie that the summation was president of catalonia, here by announced the result of the referendum to you and to our citizens. that ends with the mandate of the people, catalonia will become an independent republic. but just seconds later, the applause don't. you remember the just allowing me that i'll go back to the government and i propose that parliament suspend the consequences of this declaration of independence and then and begin immediately in dialogue next week and putting them without which there can be no conciliatory solution.
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instead of pushing ahead, the capital and government closed for dialogue, the response was anything but conciliatory. the spanish government in prisons, katelyn politicians inactive as an imposed direct route on the autonomous region. tweets demona slit the country the the city of boston, luna is a tourist magnet. the northeastern spain, among the luxury yields and a high rise hotels. a small fishing industry still exists. douglas d, romeo bronco and david b o catalog. but once odd and supporters of the independents movements in the beginning, we took part in all the demonstrations on the 11th of september. catalonia is
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national holiday. the same thing and we were always their heart and soul familiar. we took our families sing along, did everything you'd expect to go to? i don't know. of course we were always peaceful here. every year on the 11th of september, we were out on the streets demonstrating go . steve romeo, polanko is especially disappointed that the cadillac government. so quickly withdrew the independent stickler ration in 2017 like many catalan's he feels betrayed by the regions political leaders, the politicians back down. no, i don't know if it was out of cowardice or because they had a sense of what was coming good babies. but they must have known beforehand if they
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were going to be punished when they, they'd already gone so far, that kind of the people were celebrating in the streets to see that they should have gone through with it. and the consequences would have been the same. they would have been punished, but at least the people would have been given something to keep the illusion going . yes will, for it is of it that they would have felt that they had succeeded. the fact that the politicians just gave up as wide many people walked away, disappointed. catalonia arisen among spain's most economically strong regions, contributing a feat that they can only count good. that's lead st. protests to believe that the region would be better off on its own. body, it's also wind cattle. lonia is so vital to spain, it seems implausible, that madrid would ever ground independence to the catalans.
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spain will never allow us to be in favor of independence. they won't even let us hold a referendum because the results still scares them. they'll argue that support for independence has dropped in the polls, but they'll still be afraid of a referendum. the motto ro, c k is on her way to test as you test that you own in spanish, 200 kilometers south west of bounce, alona the city using the valencia region outside cavaloni is political board is despite the base capital. and he's also spoken to you. in fact, it's been an official language for years. rosie k has come to a demonstration in favor of preserving the language. under the dictates of frank
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speaking, katelyn and public was forbidden. even place names and other proper nouns were translated into spanish. but since 1979 katelyn has been recognized as an official language, once again, separate is defined a would be nation by its linguistic food is. that means they also lay claim to valencia and the valley, eric islands, when capital and dialect has spoken to them. coming together to demonstrate is so important that it shows that the costs were defending, isn't the cause of just a few people. and that we can achieve something if we organized the with regular demonstrations activists trying to keep the dream of an independent colonial online. the
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people claim the independence movement is the windows. but you can't quite say that looking at what we see here in custody you, it's often harder to get people here excited about the cause as opposed to in barcelona or places like you don't. roman is michel, independence activists also get support from outside the region from cattle and politicians, living in exile, the cetera dupel east towards china has come to friends to meet with catalan ex president carlos preach them on. who leads the next island? belgian, the for the activist, we just
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a moment is the legitimate president of a free catalonia. she still has faith in him and his views on independence, the persistence of her life. the movement comes from below. and we have to maintain that that's one of its strength and it makes us resilience. we've had 5 last 2 years without democracy during which we face state repression and ceaseless attacks. i mean, we wouldn't have survived that if we weren't a grassroots civic movement based on free will and popular engagement. so from what i'm very grateful to the president. i'll put a few that for me. he's the president we should have today. i don't know if i'll ever see a free it has a no need to myself,
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but i'll keep sizing until the end non stop. if things don't clean out but you know, whole people in catalonia, you'll see it that way. about half of them want to remain punch in spain. the it's the 12th of october, spain's national holiday in the middle of the capital and capital barcelona people with spanish flags through the streets among the catalans who clearly oppose independence. many of the band is being carried those at the right wing populist party vaults seems capacities bounding in 2013. it's made the most of capital and independence. an ideal issue for the national risk to rail
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against the votes is the 3rd largest coffee in spanish parliament. even in catalonia executed nearly 8 percent of the voting regional elections. fun yeah. testimonial will never become its own country, not live spain, the opponents of independence, unc just demonstrating phone, catalonia streets and squares. they're also taking masses into their own hands. vs is tons of guns, 130 kilometers west of bounce alone, under cover of darkness and t, independence, active as serial. and the move, the brake hold themselves cleaning brigades, the
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the s to a lot of the capital and independence flag is ubiquitous around many towns and villages. they want to change this. really, the assessor was the cleaning, the gates are groups upset as soon as i move up their own for you will have decided to come together and clean up all public spaces. and most of the who we don't hang symbols of our idea. ology didn't work today. we don't try to impose our ideology on anyone else, but it's true that we're trying to clean up public places like school buildings, that playgrounds in the city halls, land posts and so on. i mean, thoughts hard or less the, particularly in the country side separatism has strong support around here. opponents of independence can expect to be greeted with hostility. lucky moment.
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the grip of the obama, i'm up to the balcony, is the car drives by. they might insult us and throw things at us or trying to attack us. that's happened a couple of times. like i used to think as a street has to be democratic. it has to belong to everyone. everyone's free to display whatever symbols they want in their house, the public streets, so it should be free of that. in fact, the flag with the white star has been banned in public places since 2018. but in many places it remains hanging in protest against spain on the front side with a few 100. when the illegal vote took place. on october, the 1st of 2017. i realized that i couldn't sit on the sofa and watch them take my country away. they wanted to create a division that didn't exist the city. so i told myself, i had to do something. i asked friends, hey, what can we do to stop these crazy people stuck in the,
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in the square by the town who the police are waiting. but that doesn't to, to the activists that they want to remove the independence flag from the town homes balcony. they feel like they're in the right above. the police stopped them. like stays on the town hall. i'm going to take that sofa. you know, you're not listening to me in your system, the status of the. needless to say, it's an independent flag and the supreme court has clearly said that this flag is a political symbol just like the yellow ribbon. you know, the city hall is a public facility that we all pay for it though it's not allowed to carry political symbolism. police, take the details box. the activists don't face serious consequences. the self proclaimed cleaning brigade says its mission was successful. he took down most of
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the independence flags in the village. the v scripts lita is pillar by the end of us in a secret location outside barcelona. she receives the spoils of the night's mission . this is one of dozens of warehouses across catalonia, with, for the last 5 years. opponents of independence have store be objects. they seize flags, ribbons, and signs, claiming places to be part of the nonexistent katelyn republic. put in the system, the difference between them and is that we have to act as secret at night. whereas they put the flags back up with the help of the city council and public money in the end of the library. and those 1st joined the brigade because she didn't want to bounce oppression from the separatists. you don't know who. it was sure harassment. you had to agree completely with their ideas. you were
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forced to become more and more committed to independence, a yellow scarf here, yellow underpants of their yellow socks, and on and on it, i don't like anything yellow anymore and it used to be my favorite color. i don't know how many around go out there and then they said to me that i didn't understand that it was a matter of feeling. but you can govern a state with feelings whether or not we need a clear legal system or feelings. and what if i feel differently tomorrow, the feelings? what rubbish on the condo, something here, that some of you until 20 minute, don't know every opponent of independence. he's on the political rights thought the separatist movement has truth defined deal bogeyman for spain's fun. right. politicians there exploding the issue for their own and in mitre, the 20th of november, the fascist fell on hate policy marks the end of the 3 of the deaths of its found
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the fall on hey was the only posse during franco's dictatorship. these days it's small and hasn't had a look total success, the boss, it's the legal and allowed to hold public gatherings. today we commemorate our founder jose antonio playing with the data on the 1st anniversary of his assassination. he said that our electrics were good as the 1st means of communication. but that injustice and the fatherland were in danger. there was no argumentation except that a fist and pistols. every decent spanish person should be against all the separate discomfort. i want to destroy spain sacred, national unity recently, the government in mid trade has been reaching out to catalans. passing a little bit could see separatist leaders guessing length and sentences. but that's
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outraged the right. well, the separate to say it doesn't go far enough. they are insisting on a referendum i need these heated debates about the future of catalonia moderate voices. risk getting drowned down here in barcelona office, towed on ventura. ruiz is beginning his day. as i said, i said that i moved to barcelona as a student. us, it was a time when my whole world opened up a time of freedom of meeting new people and of studying and university of us. and uh, let's do this, the old ones and tour a release leaves in public sick, a former working class neighborhood in the center of the city. okay. yeah, you have more. lots of different people live here. yeah. so many of them are locals, young ones that there are also lots of democrats. yeah. when i'm getting them and then so you might see a separate his flag on the 2nd floor and the spanish flag on the 3rd floor. i think the people co exist here and they know how to get along with each other. so i'm
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guessing i don't know the identifying strongly as capital in the divisiveness in his homeland worries him. but i mean, i have the same law for me in the day independence was unilaterally declared, was a painful thing. maybe i could see that things were moving more and more quickly in a direction that would only cause the problem is that's the problem. i know separatists derisively refer to people like ventura as a key, desantis people without that position. i think it was a difficult time, especially for people like me for neither for nor against independence. why don't you know? okay, yeah, i didn't think it was the right time or the right in that that's part of mass. nobody explained to us what it would mean to be independent and say i as the castle in leadership, never formulated a concrete plan for
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a pos to independence or for capital loony is economic. well, political future for supporters of independence, vague promises of freedom were enough ink of 78. uh, the only thing we knew for sure was that there would be an economic price to say that i'm not sure. and the truth is that people of my generations had already been through a lot of crises in the, the, the so i felt that it was time to focus on other things. and we'll buy at a time when europe has done away with its borders. and i'm wondering when we all have the same currency, is that the moment to create smaller, closed off territories and that has an experience. and yeah, it was, that doesn't mean we don't have to fight for our identity. our language and our traditions. i don't know. i don't know. no, sir, i have been that channel, but i mean for me, the issue of independence was never really important thing when it was, but for others, it wasn't ex essential needs because it's in their blood taken came for the us.
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they don't want to be part of spain. they can't be part of spain. yeah. well, that's the root of the problem. but i guess as these people don't understand that catalonia is as much mine as theirs. we live, they have to convince me as someone who's between the yes and the no, let me see, let me see. let's see if the majority votes for independence, then i'll fight for any. i mean i'll help to achieve it. the problem is that it won't be that easy. you can't achieve independence if you only have the support of 50 percent of the population that i thought that would be a disaster until i get and sit on the the get summer solstice, init, tyranny's mountains, photo and venturo release has come back so he's fine village to celebrate to the mountains and communities, the sole source is celebrated with
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a nights of fine tradition dates back to pagan times. when people believed the fire would drive away demons unto franco, the ritual was band and like so many other cattle and traditions disappeared. the printers, how beautiful they are running down the categories. i've known that since childhood was not my early childhood for a long time. it was lost as we couldn't do it. it was forbid, it should never been outlawed, but it's come back and today it's spectacular. we got the odom ventura release, the ninety's also about the hope for reconciliation, savings, but on. yes, i do have hope, and i hope that cottle on society will understand that whatever we want to achieve,
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we can only do it together and join the in this region. of rich history and tradition, the future hangs in the balance. bridging the divide between those who support and those who oppose independence is a major challenge. one that will have huge implications, both for capital lonia and all explain the come have a piece of this outtake the highlights new every week in your inbox. subscribe. now . one of the main kinds, oldest ambitions would be within reason. what do you see?
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