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around after days of earthquakes, the volcano is only around 25 kilometers from reykjavik, but experts say there is no danger to the iceland at capital or it's airport. it's the 3rd volcanic eruption in his many years in the area. so you're watching the news from berlin coming up next. we've got close up for you focusing on catalogs and it's bids for independence from spain. i'm terry martin for me in all of us here. thanks for watching. the, the, the, the, the is, it is someplace power and key, more people than ever on the move world wide and such are based on life for the guy
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successive in cardboard. that's what i find out about bailey story. info migrants capital lonia res phone to the city of barcelona, spectacular peer in these mountains and the beaches of the cost of bravo. the region in northeastern spine is a vacation paradise, the deed so. so a place of proud history and tradition, the spots behind the picturesque sights conflict to simmering many catalans once. the region to become independent.
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the in 2017 cattle lands held a referendum on independence from spain. the spanish government trying to preventive. ever since then. tensions have been running high, catalonia will never be its own country. the region is deeply divided around half the population. don't think independence is a good idea. and of course i want to say that you can't impose independence with only 50 percent approval. it'd be a disaster. spain's government prevents it independence in 2017, including by using force and other but other than that, and we can never forgive them and like how could it come to that and to mix for testimony in the
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every, to use the old booth slicing a read an entire ago now plays close to the biggest competition of cash deals for human towns. both financing is banned in catalonia. now the stadium celebrates the regions traditional schools. side i have 2 boys to to jot a, is a strong support for of independence. she and her girlfriends have travel here from the city for those to take part in the events we used for the 1st time with the tower builders from bills we prod about team b that then by defense to come along. that's kind of so then hospitality for you and i'll be helping to build the foundation. i don't know how, but i'll do it on the competitors inspect. changes seeing of a triumphant and prosperous catalonia, the official ent and the,
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the so tournaments region during the fascist dictatorship under general franco, the song was outlook for almost 40 years until 1975. that struggle for recognition the nights each time it sung. the push for independence has grown out of a conviction that catalans have been fighting in vain for the freedom. for centuries, [000:00:00;00] the many are united by the feeling that they oppose to be spanish against the will at events like these. finally, katelyn spoken, the language plays a major role in the self image of this would be nation.
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the, even the speech they come to play is charged with political significance. the human towers, which can only grow in teammates worked together symbolically powerful competitors need coverage, is they vine to create the tool as talent. the best teams can create up to 10 levels of human architecture. the. this particular castille competition is taking place on a significant date. it's the 1st of october 2020 to exactly 5 years after the
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referendum that support is fail. so nearly so 2 of them independence, the magazine, a counseling nation seems within reach the . ready in 2017 the castle and regional governments took a risky gamble. it scheduled a referendum to let the people decide whether they wanted to lead spain. the madrid's reaction was swift labeling the referendum is unconstitutional and sending police to prevent the voting from taking place across spain, supporters of national unity called for a crack town on the independence movements. the the police used fools to
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keep motors away from folding stations. monta real c k is spines, youngest, low, macon and a storage separatist, the cheese being functioning for calculating independence since childhood. the so the referendum brings up painful memories. valencia and they got done on this was violence committed against the other lines and against democracy. it was also class violence, isn't this in human violence on that i then they treated us as if we were being violent when all we wanted to do was vote in yes. and we can't possibly forgive them for that. but what sort of an in might have to this day, the government planes and we were violence and what this is to them. violence means wanting to go and vote, and somebody meanwhile that they think they'd send a police with the tons to put down on demonstrations,
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isn't the violence that it doesn't make any sense. then they got some big dislike latrete. so physician, the counselor and government when to have about 90 percent of both resulted to secede from spain. not the results was skewed because there was virtually no participation from opponents of independence. opinion wholly suggested that only the capital ends were in favor of a separate states even so catalonia is regional president colors preach, demona declared independence. because he didn't the natalie that the semester as president of catalonia here by announced the result of the referendum to you and to our citizens. that ends with the mandate of the people who catalonia will become an independent republic. but just seconds later, the applause don't. you remember the just allowing me that i'll go back to the government and i propose that parliament suspend the consequences of this
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declaration of independence and then then begin immediately in dialogue next week and putting them without which there can be no conciliatory solution in the field. instead of pushing ahead to cancel and government closed for dialogue, the response was anything but conciliatory. the spanish government in prisons, katelyn politicians inactive as an imposed direct route on the autonomous region. points to mount slit the country the . the city of boston alone is a tourist magnet, the northeastern spain, among the luxury yields and the high rise hotels. a small fishing industry still exists. douglas, the romeo bronco and david b o catalog,
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but once odd and supporters of the independents movements. in the beginning, we took part in all the demonstrations on the 11th of september, catalonia is national holiday. the chicken we were always their heart and soul familiar. we took our families sing along, did everything you'd expect to go to. i don't know, of course we were always peaceful or he was every year on the 11th of september, we were out on the streets demonstrating go. steve romeo. polanko is especially disappointed that the capital in government so quickly withdrew the independent stickler ration in 2017. like many capital and he feels betrayed by the regions political leaders, the politicians back down. no,
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i don't know if it was out of cowardice or because they had a sense of what was coming. but they must have known beforehand they were going to be punished when they, they'd already gone so far as the people were celebrating in the streets, to see the course of whether they should have gone through with it. and the consequences would have been the same. and they would have been punished, but at least the people would have been given something to keep the illusion going . yes, they would have felt that they had succeeded the fact that the politicians just gave up as wide many people walked away, disappointed. catalonia arisen among spain's most economically strong regions, contributing of feats that he can only count support that's lead st. purchased to believe that the region would be better off on its own boss. it's also while in
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catalonia is so vital to spain, it seems implausible, but madrid would ever grant independence to the catalans. spain will never allow us to be in favor of independence. they won't even let us hold a referendum because the results still scares them. they'll argue that support for independence has dropped in the polls window, but they'll still be afraid of a referendum. the motto, ro, c k is on her way to custody. you'll test to your own in spanish, 200 kilometers south west of bounce, alona the cc using the valencia region outside cavaloni is political board is despite these katelyn and is also spoken to you. in fact,
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it's been an official language for years. rosie k has come to demonstration in favor of preserving the language under the dictates of franco speaking capital in, in public was forbidden even place names and other proper nouns would translated into spanish. but since 1979 katelyn has been recognized as an official language, once again, separate is defined a would be nation by its linguistic board is that means they also they claim to valencia and the valley, eric islands, when capital and dialect has spoken to them coming together to demonstrate the sort of part into that, it shows that the costs were defending isn't the cause of just a few people. and that we can achieve something if we organized the with regular demonstrations activists trying to keep the dream of an independent capital lonia aligned.
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the people claim the independence movement has the windows. but you can't quite say that looking at what we see here in custody. you it's often harder to get people here excited about the cause as opposed to in barcelona or places like you don't. a roman is michel, independence activists also get support from outside the region from capital and politicians living in exile. the
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satera dupel east towards china has come to friends to meet with katelyn ex president colors peach. dom aunt, who leads the next island belgium for the activist, bleached amount is the legitimate president of a free castle, lonia. she still has faith in him and his views on independence, the persistence of her life. the movement comes from below. and we have to maintain that that's one of it strength and it makes us resilience. we've had 5 last 2 years without democracy during which we face state repression and ceaseless attacks. we mean, we wouldn't have survived that if we weren't a grassroots civic movement based on free will and popular engagement from what i'm very grateful to the president is all part of it for me. he's the
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president we should have today. i don't know if i'll ever see a freed had to know any of myself, but i'll keep sizing until the end non stop. if things don't clean out but you know whole people in catalonia, you'll see it that way. about half of them wants to remain punch in spain. the it's the 12th of october, spain's national holiday in the middle of the capital and capital barcelona people with spanish flags through the streets among the catalans who clearly oppose independence. many of the band is being carried of those at
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the right wing populace party vaults seems to parties bounding in 2017. it's made the most of capital and independence. an ideal issue for the national risk to rail against votes is the 3rd largest policy in spanish parliament, even in catalonia executed nearly 8 incentive the voting regional elections. yes, fun. yeah. the only testimonial will never become its own country. long live spain, [000:00:00;00] the opponents of independence, unc just demonstrating on catalonia streets and squares. they're also taking messages into their own hands. vs is tons of guns, 130 kilometers west of bounce alone, under cover of darkness and t, independence, active as serial. and the move, the brake
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hold themselves cleaning brigades, the the s to a lot of the capital and independence flag is ubiquitous around many towns and villages. they want to change this really be assessor more the cleaning, the gates are groups upset. as soon as i move up their own for you will or have decided to come together and clean up all public spaces. and most of the we don't hang symbols of variety, ology didn't work today. we don't try to impose our ideology on anyone else. but it's true that we're trying to clean up public places like school buildings, that playgrounds city halls, land posts,
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and so on. that means stores or less the, particularly in the country side separatism has strong support around here. opponents of independence can expect to be greeted with hostility. lucky moment the grip of when we come up to the balconies are of a car drives by they might consult us or throw things at us or trying to attack us . that's happen a couple of times. the next, like i used to think is a street has to be democrats. it has to belong to everyone. everyone's free to display whatever symbols they want in their house, public streets. so it should be free of that. in fact, the flag with the white star has been banned in public places since 2018. but in many places it remains hanging in protest against spain when the festival that when the illegal vote took place on october, the 1st of 2017, i realized that i couldn't sit on the sofa and watch them take my country away. they wanted to create a division that didn't exist. so i told myself i had to do something. i asked
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friends, hey, what can we do to stop these crazy people are stuck in the, in the square by the town who the police are waiting. but that doesn't to, to the activists that they want to remove the independence flag from the town whole balcony. they feel like they're in the right above the police stopped, the masonic stays on the town hall. going to take that sofa. you know, you're not listening to me, it's in the system, the status of the. needless to say, it's an independent flag and the supreme court has clearly said that this flag is a political symbol just like the yellow ribbon. you know, the city hall is a public facility that we all pay for it, though it's not allowed to carry political symbolism,
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but the police take the details box. the activists don't face serious consequences. the self proclaimed cleaning brigade says its mission was successful. he took down most of the independence flags in the village the these goods lita is pillar by the end of us in a secret location outside barcelona. she receives the spoils of the night's mission . this is one of dozens of warehouses across catalonia, with, for the last 5 years. opponents of independence have store be objects. they seize flags, ribbons, and signs, claiming places to be part of the nonexistent katelyn republic. put in the system, the difference between them and is that we have to act as secret at night. whereas they put the flags back up with the help of the city council and public money into
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the end of the library. and those 1st joined the brigade because she didn't want to bounce oppression from the separatists. you don't know who. it was sure harassment. you had to agree completely with their ideas. you were forced to become more and more committed to independence, a yellow scarf here, yellow underpants, their yellow socks, and on and on it. i don't like anything yellow anymore and it used to be my favorite color. i don't know how many around go out there and then they said to me that i didn't understand that it was a matter of feeling sometimes even. but you can govern a state with feelings before that we need a clear legal system or feelings. and what if i feel differently tomorrow? the feelings? what rubbish on the condo since in here? yeah. some of you until 20 minute. don't know. every opponent of independence is on the political rights thought the separatist movement has truth defined deal
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bogeyman for spain's fine. right? politicians, they are exploding the issue for their own and in mitre, the 20th of november, the finishes to fall on hate policy marks the end of the 3 of the depth of its found the fall on hey was the only posse during franco's dictatorship. these days it smoke and hasn't had a look toral success boss. it's still legal and allowed to hold public gatherings. today we come in late our founder, jose antonio, playing with the beta on the 1st anniversary of his assassination. he said that our electrics were good as the 1st means of communication. but that when justice and the fatherland were in danger, there was no argumentation except that a fist and pistols. every decent spanish person should be against all the separatists. come, i want to destroy spain sacred,
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national unity recently, the governments in madrid has been reaching out to catalans passing a little bit. could see separatist leaders guessing length and sentences. but that's outraged the rights. while the separatist say it doesn't go far enough. they are insisting on a referendum i made these heated debates about the future of catalonia motor and voices. risk getting drowned down here in barcelona office, towed on ventura. ruiz is beginning his day. i twice as soon as i moved to barcelona. as a student, us, i mean it was a time when my whole world opened up the time of freedom of meeting new people and of studying at university started us and uh, let's do this. the old ones into, or ruiz leaves in public sick. a former working class neighborhood in the center of the city. okay. yeah. you have more uh, lots of different people live here. yeah. so many of them are locals,
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but there were also lots of democrats. yeah. oh no, i'm getting them and then do so. you might see a separate his flag on the 2nd floor and the spanish flag on the 3rd floor. i think the people co exist here and they know how to get along with each other. so i'm guessing, i don't know the identifying strongly as capital in the divisiveness in his time. land worries him. i mean, by the same law for me in the day independence was unilaterally declared, was a painful thing. maybe i could see that things were moving more and more quickly in a direction that would only cause problem is a split the problem. i know the separatists derisively refer to people like ventura as a key. desantis people without the position. i think it was a difficult time, especially for people like me for neither for nor against independence. why don't you okay. yeah. i didn't think it was the right time or the right and that that's
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part of last. nobody explained to us what it would means to be independent and say that the capital in leadership never formulated a concrete plan for a pos to independence or for capital loan. he is economic or political future for supporters of independence. vague promises of freedom were enough. when he gets $78.00, uh, the only thing we knew for sure was that there would be an economic price to say that i'm not going to. and the truth is that people of my generations had already been through a lot of crises in the, the, the so i felt that it was time to focus on other things. and we'll buy at a time when europe has done away with its borders. so i'm wondering when we all have the same currency, is that the moment to create smaller, closed off territories and that has an experience. and yeah, it was, that doesn't mean we don't have to fight for our identity. our language and our traditions. i don't know. i don't know. no, sir. i live in that. see,
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i know, but i mean for me, the issue of independence was never really important to think on. it was, but for others it wasn't ex, essential needs. it's in their blood taken care for them. they don't want to be part of spain. they can't be part of spain. yeah. well that's the root of the problem. but i guess as these people don't understand that catalonia is as much mine as theirs. we live. they have to convince me as someone who's between the yes and the no say let me see, let's keep the majority votes for independence, then i'll fight for you. i mean, i'll help to achieve it. the problem is that it won't be that easy to that. you can to cheap independence if you only have the support of 50 percent of the population that i thought that would be
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a disaster. and so i get and said all of this has the good summer solstice into tyranny's mountains. vote on ventura release has come back so he's fine village to celebrate in mounts and communities. the soles disease celebrated with a nice of fine tradition dates back to pagan times. when people believe the fire would drive away demons on the franco, the ritual was banned. and like so many of the cattle and traditions disappeared, the photos of abuse because they are running down. the thing is you have, you had known this since childhood was not my early childhood and for a long time it was lost as we couldn't do it. it was forbidden, it should never have been outlawed, but it's come back and today it's spectacular. we got to make that without the photo and ventura release, the 9th is also about the hope for reconciliation, savings, but on. so yes,
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i do have hope, and i hope that cottle on society will understand that whatever we want to achieve, we can only do it together and enjoy the in this region of rich history and tradition. the future hangs in the balance. bridging the divide between those who support and those who oppose independence is a major challenge. one that will have huge implications, both for capital lonia and all of spain, the, the,
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