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of ours, what is the week forward convenes and cards. our people will become bit on white. i mix people for them in the 77 percent in 60 minutes on the w. these places in europe are the record step into a little bit venture. it's the treasure map for modern globetrotters. discover some of us record breaking site on drawbacks youtube, and now also we book, form the castle loony or is phone to the city of barcelona spectacular appear in these mountains and the beaches of the costa bravo. the region in northeast in spain is of vacation paradise,
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the deed so so a place, a proud history and tradition, the spots book lines of picturesque signs conflict to simmering many catalan's wants the region to become independent. the in 2017 cattle lands held a referendum on independence from spain. the spanish government trying to prevent it at all costs ever since then. tensions have been running high. catalonia will never be its own country. the region is deeply divided around half the pump. elation don't think independence is
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a good idea. the say that you can't impose independence with only 50 percent approval. it'd be a disaster. spain's government prevented independence in 2017, including by using force b as in algebra. one of them, we can never forgive them, like how could it come to that mix for testimony in the every, to use the old blue finding a read an entire ago now plays close to the biggest competition of cash deals for human towns. booth financing is banned in catalonia now the stadium celebrates the regions traditionals hold side of 2 bodies to to job a is a strong support for of independence. she and her girlfriends have travelled here from the city for those to take part in the events.
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we used for the 1st time with a tower built is from sales, we prod about team b that then by defense to come along. that's kind of so then hospitality for you. i'll be helping to build the foundation. i don't know how, but i'll do it. the competitive inspect, thanks is seeing if a triumphant and prosperous catalonia, the official ent and the be so tournaments region during the fascist dictatorship under general franco, the song was outlook for almost 40 years until 1975. that struggle for recognition resonates each time its sun. the push for independence has grown out of the conviction that catalans have been fighting in vain for the freedom. for centuries, the
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many are united by the feeling that they oppose to be spanish against the will at events like these. finally, katelyn spoken, the language plays a major role in the self image of this would be nation. the, even the speech they come to play is charged with political significance. the human towers, which can only grow in teammates work together symbolically powerful competitors need coverage, is they find to create the tool as talent. the best teams can
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create up to 10 levels of human architecture. the this particular castille competition is taking place on a significant date. it's the 1st of october 2020 to exactly 5 years off to the referendum that support is fail. so nearly so 2 of them independence, the magazine, a counseling nation seemed within reach the, the. ready in 2017 the castle and regional governments took a risky gamble. it scheduled the referendum to let the people decide whether they wanted to leave spain. the madrid's
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reaction was swift labeling the referendum is unconstitutional and sending police to prevent the voting from taking place across spain. supporters of national unity cold for a cracked town on the independence movements, the the police used fools to keep motors away from polling stations. monta ro, c k is spines, youngest, low, making and to students they purchased the cheese being functioning for calculating independence since childhood. the so the referendum brings up painful memories. valencia and they got that. and this was violence committed against the other lines and against democracy. it was also class violence,
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isn't that it was in human violence on that i then they treated us as if we were being violent. i went on we wanted to do was vote in yes. and we can't possibly forgive them for that. the m, i have to this day, the government claims and we were violent to a business to them. violence means wanting to go and vote antibody. meanwhile, they think they'd send their police with the tons to put down on demonstrations, isn't violent, that it doesn't make any sense. then they got somebody to sign the treaty or physician, the counselor and government. when to have about 90 percent of both resulted to secede from spain. not the result was skewed because they was virtually no participation from opponents of independence. opinion suggested that only positive capital ends were in favor of a separate states even so cavaloni is regional president colors pleads to mount declared independence. because he didn't, the, was natalie that the summation was president of catalonia,
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here by announced the result of the referendum to you and to our citizens. and students with the mandate of the people who catalonia will become an independent republic. just seconds later, the applause don't. you remember me that i'll go back to the government and i propose that parliament suspend the consequences of this declaration of independence and then then begin i me to use in dialogue next week and putting them without which there can be no conciliatory solution. the instead of pushing ahead to cancel and government closed for dialogue. the response was anything but conciliatory. the spanish government in prisons, katelyn politicians and activists, and imposed direct through on the autonomous region. tweets demona slit the country the
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the city of barcelona is a tourist magnet t northeast in spain. among the luxury yachts and a high rise hotels. a small fishing industry still exists. august the romeo bronco and david b. o catalog were once odd and supporters of the independents movements. in the beginning, we took part in all the demonstrations on the 11th of september. catalonia is national holiday. the chicken we were always their heart and soul familiar. we took our families sing along, did everything you'd expect to go to? i don't know. of course we were always peaceful. he was every year on the 11th of september, we were out on the streets demonstrating steve
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romeo polanko is especially disappointed that the castle and government so quickly withdrew the independent stickler ration in 2017. like many catalan's, he feels betrayed by the regions political leaders, the politicians back down. no, i don't know if it was out of cowardice or because they had a sense of what was coming good babies. but they must have known beforehand if they were going to be punished when they, they'd already gone so far. that kind of the people were celebrating in the streets to see the course of whether they should have gone through with it. and the consequences would have been the same that they would have been punished, but at least the people would have been given something to keep the illusion going . yes will, for it is of it that they would have felt that they had succeeded. the fact that the politicians just gave up is why many people walked away disappointed.
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catalonia, or is among spain's most economically strong regions, contributing feet to the can only count, put. that's lead st. purchased to believe that the region would be better off on its own. body, it's also wind cattle. lonia is so vital to spain, it seems implausible, but madrid would ever ground independence to the catalans. spain will never allow us to be in favor of independence. they won't even let us hold a referendum because the results still scares them. they'll argue that support for independence has dropped in the polls, but they'll still be afraid of a referendum. the
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motto ro c k is on her way to castille you cause to you own in spanish, 200 kilometers south west of barcelona. the, the city using the valencia region outside cavaloni is political board is despite the base capital. and he's also spoken to you. in fact, it's been an official language for years. rosie k has come to demonstration in favor of preserving the language under the dictates of franco speaking capital and in public was forbidden. even place names and other proper nouns which translated into spanish. but since 1979 catalan has been recognized as an official language, once again, separate is defined a would be nation by its linguistic food is. that means they also lake lane to valencia and the valley, eric islands, when capital and dialects has spoken to been coming together to demonstrate the
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sort of report. and it shows that the costs were defending, isn't the cause of just a few people. and that we can achieve something if we organized the, with regular demonstrations. active is trying to keep the dream of an independent capital lonia aligned. the people claim the independence movement is the windows. but you can't quite say that looking at what we see here in custody you, it's often harder to get people here excited about the cause as opposed to in barcelona or places like you don't. a roman is missile.
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independence activists also get support from outside the region from capital in politicians, living in exile. the satera dupel east towards china has come to friends to meet with katelyn ex president. colors preach the moment who leads the next island belgian for the activist peach. to monty's the legitimate president of a free castle, lonia, she still has faith in him, and his views on independence to the persistence of the movement comes from below. and we have to maintain that that's one of its strength, and it makes us resilience. we've had 5 last years without democracy during which
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we face state repression and ceaseless attacks. perfect women, we wouldn't have survived that if we weren't a grassroots civic movement based on free will and popular engagements. so from what i'm very grateful to the president on a policy that for me, he's the president we should have today. i don't know if i'll ever see a freed has a no need to myself, but i'll keep sizing until the end non stop. if things don't clean out, but the whole people in catalonia, you'll see it that way. about half of them want to remain punch in spain. the . it's the 12th of october,
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spain's national holiday. in the middle of the capital and capital barcelona people with spanish flags through the streets, among the catalans who clearly oppose independence. many of the band is being carried at those at the right wing populace. the potty vaults seems capacities bounding in 2013. it's made the most of capital in independence. an ideal issue for the national risk to rail against votes is the 3rd largest policy in spanish parliament. even in catalonia executed nearly 8 percent of the voting regional elections. fun. yeah. the only testimonial will never become its own country, not live spain, the opponents of independence unc just demonstrating on catalonia streets and squares
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that are also taking masses into their own hands. vs is ton, again, 130 kilometers west of bumps of luna. under cover of darkness and t independents active as serial. and the move, the brake hold themselves cleaning brigades, the the s to a lot of the capital and independence flags is ubiquitous around many towns and villages. they want to change this. really, the assessor was the cleaning, the gates are groups of set as soon as i move up their own for you will have decided to come together and clean up on public spaces and that's out there. we don't hang symbols, a variety ology. today, we don't try to impose our ideology on anyone else. but it's true that we're trying to clean up public places like school buildings, that playgrounds city halls,
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land posts and so on. i can't, i mean, thoughts hard or less the, particularly in the country side separatism has strong support around here. opponents of independence can expect to be greeted with hostility. lucky moment. the grip of when we come up to the balcony, is there a car drives by? they might consult us, throw things at us or trying to attack us. that's happened a couple of times. like i used to think as a street has to be democrats. it has to belong to everyone. everyone's free to display whatever symbols they want in their house. the public streets, so it should be free of that. in fact, the flag with the white star has been banned in public places since 2018. but in many places it remains hanging in protest against spain. when the,
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when the illegal vote took place on october, the 1st of 2017, i realized that i couldn't sit on the sofa and watch them take my country away. they wanted to create a division that didn't exist. so i told myself i had to do something. i asked friends, hey, what can we do to stuff these crazy people are stuck in the, in the square by the town who the police are waiting. but that doesn't to, to the activists. they want to remove the independence flag from the town whole balcony. they feel like they're in the right above the police. stop them. like stays on the town hall. going to take up too for you know, you're not listening to me in the system. the status of the needless to say,
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it's an independent flag and the supreme court has clearly said that this flag is a political symbol. just like the yellow ribbon. you're not going to city hall is a public facility that we all pay for it. though it's not allowed to carry a political symbolism, police take the details box. the activists don't face serious consequences. the self proclaimed cleaning brigade says its mission was successful. he took down most of the independence flags in the village. the v scripts leader is p law study in the us in a secret location now signed voss a loaner. she receives the spoils of the night's missions. this is one of dozens of warehouses across catalonia, where for the last 5 years, opponents of independence have stored the objects. they seize flags, ribbons, and signs, claiming places to be part of the nonexistent katelyn republic. put in the system,
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the difference between them and is that we have to act in secret at night. whereas they put the flags back up with the help of the city council and public money in the, in the few lot very in those 1st joined the brigade because she didn't want to bound to push it from the separatists. you don't know who it was. sure. harassment, you had to agree completely with their ideas. you were forced to become more and more committed to independence, a yellow scarf here, yellow underpants, their yellow socks, and on and on it, i don't like anything yellow anymore and it used to be my favorite color. i don't know how many are on gone through and then they said to me that i didn't understand that it was a matter of feeling. but you can govern a state with feelings whether or not we need a clear legal system, someone feelings. and what if i feel differently tomorrow, the feelings?
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what rubbish on the condo, something here that somebody until the 20 minute, don't know every opponent of being dependencies on the political rights thought the separatist movement has pre defined deal bogeyman for spain's fun, right? politicians that are exploding the issue for their own in mid treat. the 20th of november, the fascist fell on hate policy mounts b, anniversary of the death of its found the fall on hey was the only posse during franco's dictatorship. these days it's small and hasn't had a like total success boss. it still legal and allowed to hold public gatherings to daily commemorate our founder, jose antonio, playing with the van on the 1st anniversary of his assassination. he said that our electrics, or good as the 1st means of communication. but that when justice and the fatherland
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were in danger, there was no argumentation except that a fist and pistols. every decent spanish person should be against all the separatists gum. i want to destroy spain sacred, national unity. c recently the government in madrid has been reaching out to catalans. tossing a little bit could see separatist leaders guessing length and sentences. but that's outraged the right. well, the separate to say it doesn't go far enough. they are insisting on a referendum. i need these heated debates about the future of catalonia motor of voice as risk. getting drowned down here in barcelona office, towed on ventura. ruiz is beginning his day. and so i suggested that i moved to barcelona as a student us. it was a time when my whole world opened up the time of freedom of meeting new people and
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of studying at university of us. and uh, let's do this. the old ones into, or ruiz leaves in public sick, a former working class neighborhood in the center of the city. okay. yeah. you have a lot. uh, lots of different people live here. yeah. so many of them are locals, young ones that there are also lots of democrats. yeah. one on them. and then do so . you might see a separate his flag on the 2nd floor and the spanish flag on the 3rd floor. i think the people co exist here and they know how to get along with each other. i'm guessing i don't know the identifying strongly as capital in the divisiveness in his homeland worries him. but i mean, i have the same one for me in the day independence was unilaterally declared, was a painful thing. maybe i could see that things were moving more and more quickly in a direction that would only cause the problem is it's the ones that you have heard and i know separatists derisively refer to people like ventura as a key,
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desantis people without the position. i think it was a difficult time, especially for people like me for neither for nor against independence. why no, no. okay i'm. i didn't think it was the right time or the right and that that's part of last. nobody explained to us what it would mean to be independent and say i to the castle and leadership never formulated a concrete plan for a pos to independence or for capital loony is economic. well, political future for supporters of independence. vague promises of freedom were enough ink of 78. the only thing we knew for sure was that there would be an economic crisis here that imagine and the truth is that people of my generations had already been through a lot of pricing in the, the, the. so i felt that it was time to focus on other things and we'll buy at
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a time when europe has done away with its borders. and i'm wondering when we all have the same currency. is that the moment to create smaller, closed off territories that has an experience? and yeah, it was. that doesn't mean we don't have to fight for our identity. our language and our traditions. i don't know. i don't know. no, sir. i have been that channel, but i mean for me, the issue of independence was never really important thing when it was, but for others it wasn't ex, essential needs. it's in their blood taken care for them. they don't want to be part of spain. they can't be part of spain. yeah. well that's the root of the problem. but i guess as these people don't understand that catalonia is as much mine as theirs. we live, they have to convince me, is someone who's between the yes and the know see, see, let me see. let's see if the majority votes for independence, then i'll fight for any. i mean i'll help to achieve it. the problem is that it won't be that easy. you can't achieve independence if you only have the support of
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50 percent of the population that i thought that would be a disaster until i get and said on this has the good summer solstice into tyranny's mountains on ventura release has come back, so he's fine village to celebrate to the mountains and communities, the sole source is celebrated with the nights of file. the tradition dates back to pagan times. when people believed the fire would drive away demons under franco, the ritual was banned. and like so many of the cattle and traditions disappeared. the corners of abuse because they are running down the number they gave you had known that since childhood was not my early childhood for
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a long time. it was last year. we couldn't do it. it was forbid, it should never have been out loud, but it's come back and today it's spectacular. it's like that without the photo and ventura release, the ninety's also about the hope for reconciliation, savings, but on. yes, i do have hope, and i hope the cato line society will understand that whatever we want to achieve, we can only do it together and join the in this region of rich history and tradition. the future hangs in the balance. bridging the divide between those who support those who oppose independence is a major challenge. one that will have huge implications, both for capital lonia and all of spain. the
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