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able to fix a timeline for his membership based zalinski is taking part in the 2nd day of the nato summit in vilnius native achieve stocum book said ukraine will be able to join off the steps of been taken and that's it. from the anthem of this team. phenomena of a full update of, for you at the top of the hour i'm gonna have offers in a bell and stay with the castle loony of his phone to the city of barcelona spectacular peer in these mountains and the beaches of the cost of bravo. the region in northeast in spain is of vacation paradise, the
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deed so so a place, a proud history and tradition, the spots book, fines of picturesque sights conflict to simmering many catalan's wants the region to become independent. the in 2017 cattle lands held a referendum on independence from spain. the spanish government trying to prevent it at all costs ever since then, tensions have been running high. catalonia will never be its own country. the region is deeply divided around half the population. don't think independence is a good idea on the say that you can't impose independence with only 50 percent approval
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. it'd be a disaster. spain's government prevented independence in 2017, including by using force the but other than that, and we can never forgive them and like, how could it come to this mix for testimony in the every 2 years. the old bull fighting a read an entire ago now plays close to the biggest competition of cash deals for human towns. booth the only thing is banned in catalonia. now the stadium celebrates the regions traditional schools. side i have 2 boys to to jot a is a strong support for of independence. she and her girlfriends have travel here from the city for those to take part in the events.
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we used for the 1st time with the tower builders, from sales. we proud about team b that then by defense to come along. that's kind of so then hospitality for you and i'll be helping to build the foundation. i don't know how, but i'll do it on the competitive inspect changes seeing if a triumphant and prosperous catalonia, the official ent and the be so tournaments region during the fascist dictatorship, under general franco. the song was outlook for almost 40 years until 1975. that struggle for recognition resonates each time its sung. the push for independence has grown out of a conviction that catalans have been fighting in vain for the freedom. for centuries, the
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of the many a united by the feeling that they oppose to be spanish against the will at events like these. finally katelyn spoken, the language plays a major role in the self image of this would be nation. the, even the speech they come to play is charged with political significance. the human talis, which can only grow in teammates worked together symbolically powerful competitors need coverage, is they vine to create the tool as talent. the best teams can create
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up to 10 levels of human architecture. the this particular castille competition is taking place on a significant date. it's the 1st of october 2020 to exactly 5 years after the referendum that supported sales. so nearly so 2 of them in dependence, the magazine a counseling nation seemed within reach the . ready in 2017 the castle and regional governments took a risky gamble. it scheduled a referendum to let the people decide whether they wanted to lead spain. the madrid's reaction was swift
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labeling the referendum is unconstitutional and sending police to prevent the voting from taking place across spain, supporters of national unity called for a crack town on the independence movements. the the police used fools to keep motives away from folding stations. monta row c k is spain's youngest low. macon and a storage separatist. she's been functioning for capital and independent since childhood. the. and they got that. this was violence committed against the other lines and against democracy. it was also class violence. in schuman violence on that, i, then they treated us as if we were being violent. i went on, we wanted to do was vote in years, and we can't possibly forgive them for that part of an m. i have to this day,
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the government claims and we were violence and what this is to them. violence means wanting to go and vote and somebody. meanwhile, they think that sending police with the tons to put down on demonstrations isn't violent. that it doesn't make any sense, then they got some big disappointments, result, physician, the counselor and government. when to have about 90 percent of both resulted to secede from spain. the result was skewed because they was virtually no participation from opponents of independence opinion. who suggested that only positive capital ends were in favor of a separate states even so catalonia is regional president colors preach, demona declared independence. because he didn't the natalie that the summation as president of catalonia here by announced the result of the referendum to you and to our citizens. that ends with the mandate of the people, catalonia will become an independent republic of
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the just seconds later, the applause, don't you remember the just allowing me that i'll go back to the government and i propose that parliament suspend the consequences of this declaration of independence and then then begin i me to use and dialogue next week and putting them on without which there can be no conciliatory solution. instead of pushing ahead to cancel and government closed for dialogue. the response was anything but conciliatory. the spanish government in prisons, katelyn politicians and activists, and imposed direct room on the autonomous region. tweets demona slit the country. the city of pasa luna is a tourist magnet. the northeast in spain, among the luxury yields and the high rise hotels. a small fishing industry still
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exists. douglas, the romeo bronco and david b o catalog, but once odd and supporters of the independents movements. in the beginning, we took part in all the demonstrations on the 11th of september. catalonia is national holiday. the same thing and we were always their heart and soul familiar. we took our families sing along, did everything you'd expect to go to? i don't know. of course we were always peaceful. he was every year on the 11th of september, we were out on the streets demonstrating go . steve romeo. polanko is especially disappointed that the catholic government so quickly withdrew the independent stickler ration in 2017 like many capital. and
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he feels the trade by the regions, political leaders, the politicians back down. no, i don't know if it was out of cowardice or because they had a sense of what was coming. but they must have known beforehand, if they were going to be punished when they, they'd already gone so far. that kind of the people were celebrating in the streets to see the course of whether they should have gone through with it. and the consequences would have been the same and they would have been punished, but, but at least the people would have been given something to keep the illusion going . yes will, for it is of it that they would have felt that they had succeeded. the fact that the politicians just gave up is why many people walked away disappointed. catalonia, or is among spain's most economically strong regions, contributing
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a 5th of economic output. that's lead st. protests to believe that the region would be better off on its own boss. it's also while in catalonia is so vital to spain, it seems implausible, but madrid would ever ground independence to the catalans. spain will never allow us to be in favor of independence. they won't even let us hold a referendum because the results still scares them. they'll argue that support for independence has dropped into pose bundle, but they'll still be afraid of a referendum. the motto ro, c k is on her way to catch w cuts that you own in spanish, 200 kilometers south west of barcelona. the,
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the city using the valencia region outside cavaloni is political board is despite these capital. and he's also spoken to you. in fact, it's been an official language for years. rosie k has come to demonstration in favor of preserving the language under the dictates of franco speaking capital and in public was forbidden. even place names and other proper nouns would translated into spanish. but since 1979 catalan has been recognized as an official language, once again, separate is defined, a would be nation by its linguistic food is. that means they also they claim to valencia and the valley, eric islands with capital and dialect. so spoken we would have been coming together to demonstrate the sort of report and it shows that the costs were defending isn't the cause of just a few people. and that we can achieve something if we organized the
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with regular demonstrations activists trying to keep the dream of an independent capital lonia aligned. the people claim the independence movement is the windows. but you can't quite say that looking at what we see here in custody. you, it's often harder to get people here excited about the cause as opposed to in barcelona or places like you don't. roman is missile independence activists also get support from outside the region from capital and
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politicians living in exile. the satera dupel east towards china has come to friends to meet with katelyn ex president carlos beach, the moment who leads the next island belgium. so the activist bleached amount is the legitimate president of a free castle, lonia. she still has faith in him and his views on independence, the persistence of her life. the movement comes from below. and we have to maintain that that's one of it strength and it makes us resilience. we've had 5 last 2 years without democracy during which we face state repression and ceaseless attacks. we mean we wouldn't have survived that if we weren't
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a grassroots civic movement based on free will and popular engagements. from what i'm very grateful to the president on a part of the event for me, he's the president we should have today. i don't know if i'll ever see a free it has a learning of myself, but i'll keep sizing until the end. non stop. it seems on for now, but the whole people in catalonia, you'll see it that way. about the cost of them wants to remain punch in spain. the . it's the 12th of october, the spain's national holiday. in the middle of the capital and capital barcelona people with spanish flags through the streets,
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among the catalans who clearly oppose independence. many of the band is being carried those at the right wing populace deposits vaults . since the parties founding in 2013, it's made the most of calculated independence. an ideal issue for the national risk to rail against the votes is the 3rd largest coffee in spanish parliament. even in catalonia executed nearly 8 percent of the voting regional elections. fun. yeah. testimonial will never become its own country, not live spain, the opponents of independence unc just demonstrating on catalonia streets and squares. they're also taking masses into their own hands. this is tanika, 130 kilometers west of fonts alone, under cover of darkness and t,
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independence activists are on the move, the brake hold themselves cleaning brigades, the the s to a lot of the capital and independence flag is ubiquitous around many towns and villages they want to change this. i mean the assessor was the cleaning, the gates are groups of set as soon as i move up their own for you will have decided to come together and clean up on public spaces. no such, we don't hang symbols of our idea. ology didn't work today. we don't try to impose our ideology on anyone else, but it's true that we're trying to clean up public places like school buildings, that playgrounds city halls, land posts and so on. i can't, i mean, thoughts hard or less the
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of the particularly in the countryside. separatism has strong supports around here . opponents of independence can expect to be greeted with hostility moment. the grip of when we come up to the balconies are for car drives by they might consult us or throw things at us or trying to attack us. that's happened a couple of times. like i used to think as a street has to be democratic. it has to belong to everyone. everyone's free to display whatever symbols they want in their house, the public streets. so it should be free of that. in fact, the flag with the white star has been banned in public places since 2018. but in many places it remains hanging in protest against spain when the funds of what the feeling is when the illegal vote took place. on october, the 1st of 2017,
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i realized that i couldn't sit on the sofa and watch them take my country away. they wanted to create a division that didn't exist. so i told myself i had to do something. i asked friends, hey, what can we do to stop these crazy people are stuck in the, in the square by the town who the police are waiting. but that doesn't to, to the activists that they want to remove the independence flag from the town homes balcony. they feel that they're in the right above the police stopped, the masonic stays on the town hall. i'm going to take that sofa. you know, you're not listening to me in your system, the status of the. needless to say, it's an independent flag and the supreme court has clearly said that this flag is a political symbol just like the yellow ribbon. you know, the city hall is
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a public facility that we all pay for it, though it's not allowed to carry political symbolism, but the, the police take the details box. the activists don't face serious consequences. the self proclaimed cleaning brigade since its mission was successful . he took down most of the independence flags in the village. the v scripts lita is pillar by the end of us in a secret location outside barcelona. she receives the spoils of the night's mission . this is one of dozens of warehouses across catalonia, with, for the last 5 years. opponents of independence have store be objects. they seize flags, ribbons, and signs, claiming places to be part of the nonexistent katelyn republic. put in the system, the difference between them and is that we have to act as secret at night. whereas
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they put the flags back up with the help of the city council and public money in the, in the few lot very in those 1st joined the brigade because she didn't want to bounce oppression from the separatists. you don't know who it was. sure. harassment, you had to agree completely with their ideas. you were forced to become more and more committed to independence, a yellow scarf here, yellow underpants of their yellow socks, and on and on it, i don't like anything yellow anymore and it used to be my favorite color. i don't know how many around go out there and then they said to me that i didn't understand that it was a matter of feeling. but you can govern a state with feelings of whether we need a clear legal system or feelings. and what if i feel differently tomorrow, the feelings would run the condo, something, and that's a lot of you until 20 minute. don't know every opponent of being dependencies
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on the political rights thought the separatist movement has proved the audio bogeyman sustains far right. politicians that are exploding the issue for their own and in mid treat. the 20th of november, the finishes to fall on hate, tennessee monks, the end of the 3 of the deaths of its found the fall on hey, was the only posse during franco's dictatorship. these days it's small and hasn't had a like total success boss. it's still legal and allowed to hold public gatherings. today we commemorate our founder, jose antonio playing with the van uh on the 1st anniversary of his assassination. he said that the electrics were good as the 1st means of communication. but the injustice and the fatherland were in danger. there was no argumentation except that a fist and pistols. every decent spanish person should be against all the separate
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discomfort. i want to destroy spain, sacred, national unity. c recently the government in mid trade has been reaching out to catalans passing a little bit could see separatist leaders guessing length and sentences. but that's outraged the right. well the separate to say it doesn't go far enough. they are insisting on a referendum. i need these heated debates about the future of catalonia moderate voices. risk getting drowned down here in barcelona office, towed on ventura. ruiz is beginning his day. as i said, i said that i moved to barcelona as a student us. it was a time when my whole world opened up the time of freedom of meeting new people and of studying at university of us. and uh, let's do this, the old ones and tour
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a release leaves in public sick, a former working class neighborhood in the center of the city. okay. yeah, you have more. lots of different people live here. yeah. so many of them are locals, young ones that there are also lots of democrats. yeah. when i'm getting them and then do so, you might see a separate his flag on the 2nd floor and the spanish flag on the 3rd floor. i think the people co exist here and they know how to get along with each other. i'm guessing i don't know the identifying strongly as capital in the divisiveness in his homeland worries him. but i mean, i have the same law for me in the day independence was unilaterally declared, was a painful thing. maybe i could, i could see that things were moving more and more quickly in a direction that would only cause the problem is that's what the problem. i know separatists derisively refer to people like ventura as a key, dis dentist, people with down to position as an example. it was a difficult time,
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especially for people like me for neither for nor against independence. why no, no. okay, i'm, i didn't think it was the right time or the right and that, that's for the last. nobody explained to us what it would mean to be independent then say i to the castle and leadership never formulated a concrete plan for a pos to independence. full for capital loan, he is economic, well political future for supporters of independence. vague promises of freedom were enough. unique of 78. uh, the only thing we knew for sure was that there would be an economic price to share that imagine. and the truth is that people of my generations had already been through a lot of crises in the, the, the so i felt that it was time to focus on other things. and we'll buy at a time when europe has done away with its borders. so i'm wondering when we all have the same currency, is that the moment to create smaller, closed off territories and that is an experience. and yet was that doesn't mean we
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don't have to fight for our identity. our language and our traditions. i don't know . i don't know. no, sir. i live in that as. yeah, i know, but i mean for me, the issue of independence was never really important interesting when it was, but for others it was an ex essential needs. it's in their blood taken care of whether or not they don't want to be part of spain. they can't be part of spain. yeah. well that's the root of the problem. but the, i guess as these people don't understand that catalonia is as much mine as theirs. we live, they have to convince me as someone who's between the yes and the no, let me see, let me see, let's get the majority votes for independence, then i'll fight. fortunately. i mean, i'll help to achieve it. the problem is that it won't be that easy. to that you can to achieve independence if you only have the support of 50 percent of the population that i thought that would be a disaster. and so i get and said on this house, the
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good summer solstice in the tyranny's mountains boat on ventura release has come back to his fine village to celebrate in mounds and communities. the solstice is celebrated with a nice of fine tradition dates back to pagan times. when people believe the fire would drive away demons under frank cover, the ritual was banned. and like so many other cattle and traditions disappeared. the printers have abused because they are running down the because you have, you had known this since childhood, but not my early childhood. for a long time. it was last as we couldn't do it. it was forbidden. it should never have been outlawed, but it's come back and today it's spectacular. let's make that without
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the photo and ventura release. the 9th is also about the hope for reconciliation, savings, but on. yes, i do have hope, and i hope that cottle on society will understand that whatever we want to achieve, we can only do it together and it has enjoyed the, in this region of rich history and tradition, the future hangs in the balance. bridging the divide between those who support those who oppose independence is a major challenge. one that will have huge implications, both for capital lonia and all of spain, the, the, the,
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