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this, we have a very good meeting with that person. so then scan his certification today, where he welcomed the the very strong message from a nice all loss. so you're welcome. discovery spent of the night, the ukraine council and also the care commitment to move ukraine closer to a membership. so this was not the issue raised in annual. those are those meetings and i think it is extremely important to to recognize that the decisions you, i made the only dollars is the strongest, every message on ukraine, a membership that these alliance ever ever made the vide states and canada trains will. because remember that your prince future, it's in and nathan, also in describing the policy forward with the practical support for it and showing instead of affinity with a strength and the political ties with an a to train counsel. and then by removing the requirements for the membership actions on, then negotiations to solve the conflicting in ukraine will only
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happen when ukraine is ready for negotiations. and then after i say that again and again, nothing about your brain without your brain. uh well being, you know, is that so is that the more military we support, we provide a to ukraine. the more not they are able to liberate the stronger the time will be at the negotiating table. and therefore, we continue on the message from this summit. i'm from $8.00 with new announcements over over the long range cruise me side is over. more on the vehicles with more advanced defense systems and training of f. 16 pilots is that we support them to me bread long. so they will have a stronger hand at the negotiating table. that's what this is about is not about need, don't negotiating on behalf of ukraine or. okay, so the to the gentleman in the front row here,
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i can what are you so for make it easier for you to general? there was talk about the opening and they totally is. i don't know if it's in total, but that was not mentioned in the communicate whatsoever. is this planned it or is there plans to revive it towards the end of the year? it's opening at a different location, an option. and we know that francis very much open the opposed to this plan without any other countries, similar posts. the idea as well. thank you. this morning i'm at the, the pharmacy because he's off from the pounds on the left. was a very good meeting where we both recognized on the states as clearly the important solver for the strength being the partnership, the work we do together upon, on the, on the nato. it is those departments because she thought how so kelly stated that what happens in your mouth is for a show on top of the nation matters for you to
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a patio, so event to ukraine and i'm this kid on the i'm on demonstrate that his commitment to to provide support to, to, to ukraine. we also agreed today a new individual partnership program between a natal, i'm the ukraine where we describe the different uh, works times where we're going to deepen our cooperation. this is about, sorry, parents about my time security. it's about the country and 5 protests including this information and all that else where we see the potential for it in a to, on the, on the, upon the working more closely together. the issue of the esl office is still on the table. it will be, it will be considered in the future. you'll have news agency lady in the 3rd row.
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she has, however, need to engage in word and in the past. so seek security regarding china and north korea. and how will the partnership with in the pacific partners develop in the future? are you planning to invite them next year to a better strong text message from this meeting and especially the meeting we have with our partners this morning of the the in the pacific partners will stay on the japan, south korea. and you'll see it on is that's at security is not regional security is global. and therefore we need to really have to stand together. the china else have investments in you mean to keep it this the most as thoughts a we expect that signed all by 2035 will have one possible 500 nuclear warhead. so me sort of kind of reach north america and a whole lot of units and they to territory. so we see how time is coming closer
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tools. this is not about nathan, call me your global mentor lines, but this is about recognizing that this region faces and global challenges. otherwise we're trying not, it's a, it's a part of the trying is coming close enough recall in the, in the, in the arctic, but also trying to control critical infrastructure. and of course, we see them also in the, in, in cyber space. so therefore we have a uh, now different to tainted programs. so with all over in the pacific partners describing different data i was about to experiment open. i was always partner about cyber country and a kind of content. this information at night time security is a security. there's also a japanese sauce at the naples. so my time headquarters in uh, in the, in the north with, in, in united kingdom. uh, so we are working on different practical ways over all the working together and cruising by participating participation of h h episodes about in the pacific part this number as cyber a,
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as i said. so we are gradually expanding what we are doing together simply because our security is interlinked on the i'm just the recent uh, let me start launch over north korea a demo. so it's not because that's of course, a challenge to that region. it's, it's a trip to it, to, to the region, but it's also undermining global as a piece of stability of the, the north korean. and we saw a new programs on the, on the launch we just saw yesterday a l. d. federal max price with a at the secretary general to questions if i made the 1st one also on presidents and landscape who said that he would come to the language of to communicate today. that's right. but he called exactly the same community k yesterday observed, is sometimes going to fall, risking to eliminate also partners who spend a lot of political capital and real capital in order to help them. that's the 1st
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question and the 2nd one is very technical. it's countries engage and security agreements, or guarantees for you train. does that count on the 2 percent the spending goal? thank you. well, what counts to think about? first of what counts against a 2 percent spending is every expenditure data falls within naples definition of defense expenditure. so so, so, so if we speak about military expenditures, and that's a, is defined as, as a, as a defense expansion according to the naval definition, doesn't accounts it to, if it does the full on without definition, it doesn't come to that this the, that the case anyway, and regardless of what kind of framework of this is spent within the 1st great now now, well, hold on on the, on the, the, the communicate with. thank the 1st we all understand that the
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extremely difficult situation that ukraine is in the middle of the war that casualties every day. there's a comfortable fence suit facing future systems. doug and russian forces landlines and on the brutal warfare from the russian side. and of course, that's one reason why you claim that again and again has us for more support on those why ours have stepped up with also gradually, more and more advanced weapons systems are welcome that our support times of old us the war has enrolled and our political relationships also have owned, as is more times of old. and so therefore we've made the decisions. at this summit, i'm glad the president savanski welcomed both the creation of the night to ukraine council. the fact that we remove the requirements for membership actions on moving
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it printing closer to a, to a, to nato. and, and also the fact that the, that the, this is, this is the strongest ever expression of the, the pol forward do not to the message on a membership, but for your pain from this it. ok, ok. the nato secretary general, the insulting book, talking about ukraine, and it's a membership, the eventful neighborhood membership that is, and the timeline towards it. saying that ukraine is now closer to nature than ever before. i'm here with allianz bass related to richard wilkins is going to try me in a moment. but 1st let's go over to the summit, which is in building a as in christine, who was standing by for us. christina, tell us what you think about the press conference that being held by you and so sabine, ukraine's native membership has lived large of the summit and a, you know, hearing the state, the nato secretary general,
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underscoring the fact that in as much as it is not the outcome of the camp was hoping for that this is the strongest one in terms of the language, the niece who has come in terms of guaranteeing ukraine's needs a membership. and i think that is what the, the secret you're here to wants to and to school here to say that it might not be that the timeframe that cable is looking for necessarily. but you've got to acknowledge how much we have committed by saying that you cranes future is within the alliance. yes, we've not given at that time frame, but we have for example, removed one of the requirements to a, from that part way. essentially saying that needs to be recognized that i think that's the message he has at that stuff. but once, once us to walk away with rather than looking at the fact that it was not necessarily the desired outcome, the key of wanted. so in addition to that obviously was the emphasis off course of the security guarantees that nato members have made at. these are pages that will
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run into the long term until the war has ended. and even off to that, to, to present a nother work. this is native saying it will continue to support ukraine unconditionally, military aid, economic age, and as well as the engaging with ukraine on a new platform. the inaugural meeting was held off the nato ukraine council. this is something that sofa bed referred to as new a format that's new format that's different. and you quoted a strong political tool. so this is nature. trying to signal here is that we have done that up to the best we've moved close. that might pop enough for everybody. but this is still a very strong outcome and the presidents that he can go back and perhaps take that message back home to, to, to, to ready. especially the troops who are really having a hard time on the and lines meeting that resistance on the counter offensive on the ground. i think the other methods for ukraine that was uh, quite interesting from you. and so that can bridge,
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and maybe you can chime in on this, that it will only happen. candidacy will only go forward when ukraine is ready, the more lands they can liberate the strong good. the hand will be at the negotiating table. something we were talking about before. yeah. so, i mean, this is very much your point. the west and supporters of ukraine have been making that, that they want to be by providing these weapons to ukraine by providing all the support that, that problem that they're giving it, that they want to put ukraine in the strongest possible position for, for that at some point in the future may when it may, i do want to start talking to the russians, and the russians might want to talk back as well. but it does kind of reflect some of the, of the huge onset and t, um, facing the ukraine, but also its allies about will. what will the world look like at that point and how much of its territory will you frame be able to reclaim?
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i'm coming into the, the counter offensive is currently on the way. um, a lot of expectations were billed top. uh, partly based on the relatively rapid advances ukraine was able to make last year and a huge amounts of military assistance that happens at. that's right. and course we've seen that the progress is slow, probably because russia has had so long to defend dispositions. and so, i mean that had been some expectations not so long ago that perhaps later this year would be a moment where you might find the ukrainians and the russians in a position where they, they kind of ready to talk because they've kind of the both exhausted to a certain extent, and that is a point at which with some token could happen. but now i think increasingly there's a concern, but this could just drag on for many, many years. so that is partly why this, these, these messages coming from g 7 members that they want to provide long term support kind of really promising we're, we do for
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a long period. but uh why those are seen this important. and also why the language about timing is simply note that that is blurry because it's to on set and what the situation will be, how long this will take, richard your last take away from today's somebody and billy as well. i think it's been quite interesting to see below, the minister lensky is communication. we've seen, he, i mean, he's an expert communicator, as we've seen over the last year and a half. and yesterday, it was a rare moment of him, really kind of really kind of crossing i think from the point of view of some of his support is crossing a bit of a line by saying that it was a side note to give a timeline for nathan membership, we even had the u. k. defend to minutes, so you can have very strong support for the train saying essentially, well, it'd be nice if you said thank you every now and season lensky now kind of suddenly resting things back end of the putting a positive spin on this thing. so let's get close, has to manage,
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he's not just trying to kind of get the most as of the world. he's also trying to manage his own people's expectations. it's a tough job that he's a tough life for him to work, especially it's always reachable kind of our international edit. so thank you very much for bringing us up to date of your continued coverage of our rolling coverage of today's summit in bill us. thank you. very much for watching. i've been presented and that brings you up to date on the latest hit on the war in you print . thank you for watching the stay up to date. don't miss our highlights. the t w program online. the w. com highlights you become a criminal.

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