a longer term, they realize that they're going to focus on europe and also try and keep your up in the us apart. so there's, there's even more complex political issues of play as well. a complex issue just gets more complex hicks, you've pointing that out. so if i could and, and now turnaround. so you're watching dw news coming up next in dw, and use asia when lead is in the pacific countries doing at the pentode sound. that's in lithuania. the ranch manager will have that story a more after a short break. i've been since it was an invalid. thanks for watching the every jenny is far less surprises. we've gone all out to give you some time. one day in the course of the rate in years northern most count

the police, the free time, but still very much alive. your guy to the special in germany recognizes where exactly it was fun. i have learned a lot of our culture history. all their travel extremely worth a visit. the basic videos are coming up today. may tow tons, thoughts to ensure the alliance of the meeting details of inter pacific countries as it makes a push to deepen engagement with the region. but what's driving this course and vote form could take and, and it to one year old sites for justice,

for the forgotten victims of the vietnam war. nearly 5000000 bethany's suffering. the often effects of being poisoned by the have besides agent orange, the, the hi british manager. welcome to the the news aisha. i'm glad you could join us. the question of ukraine's natal membership may have been the main focus of the summit in vin is but on the sidelines, there was a fair bit of engagement between natal. i'm in the pacific nations, australia and japan losing and then south korea, we're meeting an organization that has historically, always been drawn to plenty only now it appears to want to be in the pacific as well. the foundation is mentioned on natal members but partner countries and it's a partnership that's being redefined in a time of war and get go. in the current,

severe international security environment, the security of europe and the end are pacific are inseparable, japan and nato to share the understanding that unilateral attempts to change the status quoted by force will not be tolerated regardless of where in the wells. and share the understanding of the importance of maintaining and strengthening a free and open international order. based on the rule of law is it probably already paid follows to japan and naser, which shared fundamental values and strategic interest. i saw the deepening outside season. oh, it's coming and drawing me off, a more is gutter mom on. she's a senior fellow in the in the pacific program and the g. m. s. think tank and an expert in europe size with the pacific. got them up. what is driving natal interest in the in the pacific? it's great to be back in the show because i think it's important to note that neat

was interested in the new pacific is not new. we already started looking at mentions have been to pacific a few years ago in nature, documents much before ukraine. and the key reason for this interest was, of course, china and china is increasing in fluids in europe and need to as well as other organizations started looking, asking positions of that incidence of political influence, economic intimidation. the direct and indirect security threats which come from china's investment in critical infrastructure in europe. all of these things talked to driving, need to, to look at the new pacific and talk to countries in the region who might be facing similar threats needs of the china. i would like to note that need to has had global partners for a long time, including japan, south to the street here. these countries will also crucial and providing support for ukraine and increasing the need to is also been interested in engaging india. secretary general stuffing books book asked steve, i've seen

a dime over in india. nato officials have started meeting with indian officials, both to understand the big security threat from china and being in border, but also to understand india's relationship with russia. so on, around quite a few factors driving neat, was interested. this keeps each in surface engage with what is the kind of engagement that talking about are we talking about security cooperation, nato troops in the into pacific. what form of engagement will they say eventually turn out to be to that is the $1000000.00 question for now. nature's engagement in the region is pretty much coordination, trying to understand the experiences of these countries in the, in the pacific trying to understand how security challenges in the end of the city can have an impact on your, of the, to see it as a connected european and in the pacific agents are connected, and the most important examples of that is russia, china, coordination and alignment, that we have seen a much in, even before ukraine,

but really became a crucial security concern for me to another members off to ukraine. so i think that is an important connection that need to is making with, by engaging with the pacific. what form this we engage member take going forward with that and see at the coordination level or does it mean need to presence in the region? that is still an open question. there was talks of creating a need to office in japan, which will be taught by paris. i think it's important to look at what countries in the region, what, what do asian countries want? and there you would have buried responses. some would say why not more nato means more hands on deck when it comes to dealing with. for example, taiwan. contingency, china is aggressive behavior in the region. why not? but a number of other countries would have questions as to why should need to engage in a far off region. and would it not be more important if it was focused on

guaranteeing european security 1st china adult ad also something to say about the recent, the summit of anita somebody didn't even notice it said, and i caught it. raise a new key of pauses. nato's east would move monday, innovation pacific region. is there a danger here? gutter mazda natal engagement in the region for the, the stabilize as it? i think that would be an exaggeration. 19 chinese reactions to any sort of statements are like that these days me see a lot of grand standing from china. i think if an actor is destabilizing the new pacific right now, it is china and not need to need those. engagement has been very surface level. and i think the coordination between european countries in india, pacific countries, when dealing with similar challenges from russia and china is just inevitable. so i, i don't think any one country can have a veto and how other actors engage with it's region. and i don't think in,

in the future be there's any real possibility off, you know, a massive new to engagement troops on the ground in the new pacific. so we, we have to be a little balanced and how we look at this just on the subject of coordination with the me, your open within nato, or just to go back to the pointers. earlier i bought from supposing the opening of anita or liaison office in japan. why is front against this? so i think the broader point of the need to engage mandating. we have to look at how the crucial lesson being learned in europe. that the experiences of dealing with an authoritative in russia will it be similar to those of china and europe? she didn't make the same mistake of being over dependent on china and critical sectors as it was russia. and so i think in, on that argument, european countries are on the same level, but when it comes to their china policy,

this student being defined as we saw in prison, i'm a chrome and to being who took a different tone from what a miss fund line has said about the china challenge and therefore i think you are being countries are still trying to figure out what exactly is their relationship with china? how much do they want to push? and therefore someone more cautious than others. me to do, we are expecting to see that and trying to strategy in germany that would also, you know, need to some clarifications but i think it remains to be seen where the chips would fall on go to p and china policies and china approaches until that time we would see these different reactions, countries like from sometimes being a bit more cautious at other times. they're not, for example, when sending french for gets through the in the pacific. they're quite forward meaning when the timing by thanks so much for joining us again and get them on from

the gym if you for having me of the now and 8 to one year old is making a fresh attempt at sewing major company confirms for their role in damaging the health of millions during the vietnam war, trying to not is suing 14 funds for producing the harvest side, known as agent orange, that the united states sprayed over the jungles of vietnam to fight the enemy. but it also had an impact on nearly 5000000 people, including huh. what exposed to it? she however, is the 1st and only civilian. to take this report. to know, it's been a long fight. she has been trying to win compensation for risk of these victims. expose to agent orange during the vietnam war, during which she worked as a war correspondent detox a cold beside was afraid of, of vietnam's for his spy,

the united states. a strategy by the us, the debt to the enemy, north vietnam. what a left behind was a public health disaster. look, they were doing the coal objective is not money. but if the guy tell you, we want the world to know the crime of war, chemical won't fully a good thing that i'm going to have done. how the us dropped the 68000000 lead tools of agent orange will be up now between the 19 sixties and seventies. it has since been linked to several health issues and people exposed to the white powder as no hostile for members being doused and at once. a year on her daughter was born with a congenital heart defect and died soon after wisdom invaluable had always blamed myself for being a bad dog. okay, now then i discovered i was

a victim of agent orange. i knew them, but it was agent, orange, dioxin, but killed my child. not me, i still don't get that last with never be healed. numer must last done the whole year and there are multiple accounts of with them. these children being born with deformities of the limb spine and more estimates show that 4800000 people will directly expose to agent orange and more than 3000000 have developed health problems in high no way a state sponsored facility has been given vocational training to agent, orange victims, the loan to stitch create taught as well as read and write in the hope that the skills will help them own a livelihood. instead of falling by the wayside of you know, mean society. in 2014, know, filed a lawsuit in front against 14 companies such as dow chemical and one center that

produced agent orange. the companies argued that they were not responsible for how the us military decided to use the product. in the end, the french gold 12 total case seems like a good idea of asses and i have received the message that was sent to me. it's true, but i had a shock in my honda a lot because i wasn't expecting it shows that i had already prepared myself so the worst. but that's your decision. it wouldn't be of stumped me. me then this is your only firm i have as will be a surprising decision considering that to us board veterans have received compensation for the exposure agent orange and continue to receive tax free monthly payments. you know how this is a fight? she is crowd sourcing money to file an appeal in 2024. she has no intention of

giving up with that i told her to do so. i promise that i will continue to my last breath on the vehicle being homeless and that does it fall off today? there's more news and updates from the region on our website, dot com, forward slash a share of rebecca again at the same time tomorrow when see event by the the conflict with tim sebastian its nearly 3 weeks since rushing most new ways from the bottom of the pointers that tags towards most got tons of 5 days off to the episode because both gave me pre goshen was having told me to put in what is it

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