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the, the after moscow withdrew from the greenville on monday, it only took a couple of hours until the russian missile started striking ukraine's wax the ports for a 2nd consecutive day bombs of crippled harbour facilities in odessa, ukraine calls it a truly massive attack. it has hurt its ability to export wheat and reportedly destroyed 60000 tons of green waiting to be shipped to countries in dire need away from the coast to cranes counter offensive to recapture territory. under russian control grinds on field for field village, or village about not only leaders and ukraine expect to be long and difficult. and the confirmation berlin and this is the day the
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ukraine is continuing. it's critical kind of references to retain its sovereign territory. in the last month, the crane has liberated more sarah trip to russia, captured in the last year. so the russian situation is not very good. food has a group problem. how does he moved from here? what does he do? he has lost a lot of people and he has lost a lot of capabilities, a lot of tags, a lot of aircraft, a lot of missiles that he's fired with the ukrainians. there's a significant amount of combat power, not yet. as i said, the phrase fight for freedom is a marathon, and madison read. there's a lot of fighting left to go. this is going to be long, it's gonna be hard. it's going to be bloody also on the day, close allies with bang tensions, relations between the united states and israel as legitimate military targets. i
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mean, while ukraine's counter offensive andrews a 2nd month and officials can see that it's going. and abraham was one of the few reporters given access to the area where this village is one of the 1st to create has taken back from russia and it's counter offensive. it's called in this coaching it, which means not boring and ukrainian. today that feels like a cruel joke. this coach, they used to be home to about 700 people. now there's nothing for them to come back to me because of what it says. it seems to be the pains me to see this because they used to be live here. who is it just, you know, the united voters push the sometimes it's hurts even to see the land. the land is constantly being torn apart by showing no smoke out. the nature suffers, people suffer, the country suffers ever since that is a live stuff. is there ever since socrates the system?
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as we're filming, we experience why no one's coming back. as russian troops are treated the mind to really we have to move. the russians are constantly firing. what i was about to say was that the russians mind the whole village as well as their positions on the front lines. this strategy means every step of the territory ukrainian troops we gain is paid for with this nearby military medical point deals with the consequences. doctors here stabilized casualties, so they can be moved to a hospital or funding the gentleman say no to mean we've been seeing injuries relates to mind explosions, which lead to reputations are compromising. we can see if it's behind them include police, department of mine, injured person is brought to us. we have them before we see them. even while
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they're being carried from the car, we can already hear them because of how loud they scream, the signal cartridge was to feed. these men are determined to avoid. they've just returned from ambushing of russian positions. everyone's exhausted, but there is no time to rest. they're carrying out exercises to learn from would be seen on the battlefield. it won't be enough on its own though. they tell me they need you cleans allies to step off more. so what i finish with the another filled up but who had to you? we need everything, artillery shells, planes, and equipment. we're liking everything. you have to look at it that way. this isn't some kind of game. these associated with lives associated. excuse me. i ask antoine about criticism that ukraine's counter offensive is slow through the book of it. but the able to let them show us how it should be done on the program with these politicians. and so for experts, they're all talks. they're gonna say we're going,
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you know, in this part of the directions on the defensive, the shouldn't be underestimated about fighting them isn't easy and effective for us . don't worry about this is cut out, but i wouldn't say we're slow. we're actually making good progress. people say we can go foster, it's just empty words, like when the russian said they could take kia for it in 3 days, are gonna be provided for the use of it now. and then with the summer brought the flow. this is the tone of really kind of us. ok. the russians never got this far, but we're just a 5 minute drive from this coaching. the village that was occupied here, a successful counter offensive can't come fast enough. this time of year this police would normally be bustling with life families and people just enjoying the sunny day. but now there's just absolutely nothing left. there's barely a building intact. the sound of artillery here is just relentless. it just does not stop. really kind of a silica is one of the closest towns to the front lines with civilians still living
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in it. it had a pre war population of about 7000. now locals, tell me there are just a few 100 left. tatiana is one of them. most storms cuz i visited july. i was born here like this is where my story begin. how can i leave all my ancestors abroad here? this might have seemed pretty up. which one? well, why should they give up ukrainian lent, which does because they are stronger. we are stronger in spirit as we speak. sounds of artillery. tatiana doesn't even flinch. the supposedly social golf. we have a rather adaptive somehow. like there is some kind of mutation in our board is we don't react to explosions like that anymore. it is, you know, she loves everyone loves it because we have to survive somehow coaxed emotional. she was like, there's no electricity here, no running water, no shooting and no shops. this volunteer who brings food in twice a month is
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a crucial lifeline to lose. my husband is now defending our country in the front line and i'm defending the humanitarian front. so i'm here have nowhere to go. some have disabled people at home to some pension is who accepted. they might be killed here. we kind of leave them all go left her hometown in the don bass in 2014 after russian back separatists took over. she later settled in very kind of a sales guy. this is what remains of the house. she and her husband worked for 8 years to build. they finished it just days before the full scale invasion has been show twice. i'm sorry. that it was the one to live 2 weeks with my husband did older pass that with his
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own hands, located advertising every week. new to on february 22nd. too late. this law not on february 22nd. we finished with this room little boost. the children's room was already done so that there's that old and she made this last year with her 8 year old. oh and then oh, it still works like that. this is how we celebrated the year 2022 as a family in our house because in the rest of our to closing those, every time i come back, a discount on my hobb deepens, just trying to a bunch of us things. trunk august says she believes she'll repair her house and that ukraine will rebuild. but for that to happen, they need victory on the battlefield. the sooner the better it's bringing just in chrome pays the military veteran and sales international
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intelligence and risk analysis consultancy symbol line. he joins us from the u. k. mr. crowns. welcome back to the w. now a month into the offensive. can we say anything about where it's heading other than to quote and general mark, milly that is going to be long and bloody or well, i mean he's, he's always, he got a pretty good despite to the events. and i think he just thought i'd say most of the people in the front line have a very similar message. and so they have a nice spoken to us at the same thing, which is where people think it's so easy for me to be doing better. they come here and try it and i think that reflects the real difficulties of operating sick and self new crane. but we, we thought about it very flat open landscape. the difficulty of maneuvering that the difficulty post by driving is like a control. the huge, the challenging to your credit, even before you think about the mines, go to the right front and so on. so i didn't live in hopes that they could crack open the front, that the russian defense is be weaker than maybe the periods. and i think there's
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elements of truth in that, but it is a growing to get to the point where maybe ukraine consults gay, more or more advantage. and in that regard, we've been here before. we saw this west as a need when they reached the diary of a sudden last year, using some of the tactics. i was about 30 days of grind. now this is only a totally different scale where we are now. but you know, it's not i the sure, and i think that the expectations behind i think you can use getting results. um, while a village will to may not seem to match. so the, the russian progress, but as low as you just say needs of people's items, these people's houses, these people's likelihood. they might be a moral victory to bring them back to the economy and sort of the line. but you see how important it is, the ukrainians, the families and the soldiers. the difficulties are great and a lot of homes were pinned on the mechanized units, especially those with western supplied armor is a ukrainian military able to deploy those as intended too. well yes, i think not necessarily perhaps is hopes. so either we seem to that challenging
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environment i, there is difficult to deploy what we call combined dogs. men 2 of us are using these forces together. and the way of which of course, the u. k. the us, germany, nato allies in general, can, can deliver that sort of capabilities of decades to build up. um, yes, a lot of experience went into being able to make this look easy as the us did in iraq, new k, and i sort of occasions. so it is a reminder, this is hard, you know, it really is so big expecting repeats of maybe what we saw in the gulf of things i thought is always, i'm realistic. if you look at the way that forced to balance and ukraine in the territory. and so, but the reality is that ukraine has temper gates worth of more, more from equipment that has not been committed to this spike yet. i think if it was sort of over or if it was where the peaking fee credit and those elements would also have been committed, say not being commit isn't this. we've set the floor when you're in way of space. and the longer those units are not in the fight, the longer they have to train the longer they have to think about how they can
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operate in this very, very difficult environment and actually make progress. i think the indication is when they're actually deployed and now they're not. i'm not sure if your credit is nowhere near the end of exhausting. it's potential hit with the delivery of cluster munitions of by the united states was partly explained by a lack of other artillery munition. but to what extent does it also reflect the kind of battle this has become maybe one that is not in trying to out maneuver the russians. but turning this into more of a more of a strategy of attrition on the side of the, the premiums as well. yep. and then that's what it's been for a long time. and again, ukraine's use that strategy before used outside keys. they used it outside the sun before. so yes, that is absolutely what they're doing and the customizations. yes, it makes up to some of the lack of supply or potential able mentoring. the supply that's available for the credit is we know that like, far, lot more rounds and they all, they all appropriate the mainland from what we're saying outweighing the russian or
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to the read affective and the signal and absolute numbers. and they've been going off of the russian guns for a number of weeks now, and you can go to where do you see the trends changing whether or not you believe the numbers underneath? how does the crating so we're starting to ship the balance and that is, that's very significant and cost to munitions are significantly more effective. again, certain sorts of targets run 10 times more effective. the conventional munitions would be by comparison. so they do have the ability to cost more destruction, particular kinds, trench lines and things like that. but they skyscraper wise. where are the more likely to learn where you need them? if you're talking area target or indeed guns you can, you are hitting the area. it's good to do a lot more damage, so it's not a necessity. it's bought a time to do useful for you credit. and to be honest, both sides would've been using these sorts of munitions. there's no preached anything that are the rush where you create more than 10 previously. and these fields as i've listed, but on explosion ordinance, the these to pose the hazards and heads the question marks by using them. i think in this situation the ukraine find this a viable,
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it's not really adding significantly to the risk ukrainians and office and the advantage there are now also reports. a u. s. might be moving towards applying more longer range or until reinstalled specifically attack. and this would those hell break through rushes defense lines and give the counter offensive a push a this is that strategic targeting. so again, there's 2 ways of stopping any military from working, one of which is to find it and destroy it. you killed the crews, destroy the guns, disabled them on the other way, is to make sure they have no munition to far which point not just targets they uses . so ukraine's been doing buddies and we've seen the effects of these trucks behind the lines. i talked to him just gives him the ability to extend the range of those as active moly 1000 table distance. so we can to air isn't quite made with hardly the ukrainians using drains are using so long conventional techniques to try and deliver attacks. well, behind russian lines, having longer range missiles and we've seen it was storm shadow and then she's scope the french very, the storm shudder miss so really opens up
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a lot more targets. i'm not just thoughts henry logistics applies, but also headquarters. and of course, you have pressure is lots and lots of senior officers to strikes from headquarters and other attacks. and again, that's not a sign that your war is going well. if you're losing all germs that are fairly steady rates, who are getting killed on the battlefield. that's really no one should be happening to a general say this for increase is the challenge for us or and defending against what your credit is doing. but there are no silver, but it's none of these donations. who me the thing, the winning some of the great. yeah, it's how old are that to use together incrementally? the attack on the cartridge branch on monday and today's explosion in crimea. both things that you briefly touched on there are these more more round boosters for ukraine, then significant military successes that we shouldn't discount the importance of our office, a continuous support and maintaining the will of your forces to points and the will of your society to support them, but they are more than that. i mean strikes the coach. prayers are very much of the
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hall of russian pride. you see that and how they react to it. but i think the great deal by talking the great association, the desa, which was hardly really a military target in response to the post the bridge research is being used to the already re supply russian soldiers. i mean, it's been the time before that been several other attempt to tax on it. i need some assistant target for you credit because it makes life a lot more difficult if it's touched, exhaust particularly the route bridge. which card isn't open? um, but the thoughts interdicted that makes life a little harder for the russians. and so the credit is huge objective. it's a massive check point. full rush hour, but typically the roadway and of course the top lines themselves are the top, the bridges from crime yet mainland, in the north and those accessories. and so the kind of surprises ready to sort of golden target in that regard. and again, it is a symbol both ways mean the panic. coolest. the russians sticky russian terrorists are still going to cry. man, because they've been told at sight from finding out of course it's not about in itself. i think just underscore was how important this is. even just that you just
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a model factor as well as me that tell really this attack there's no yeah, the significance but destroying the rope. ridge definitely with justin. crowds of simple line always credit speaking to you. thank you for your time. i can of the israel's president eisenhower, it's ok has addressed a joint session. the us congress sees only the 2nd is really president to do so following his father president heim, her sock, who spoke in front of lawmakers in 1987. and while today's speech was planned to mark the 75th anniversary of the foundation of israel, but had a state use it as an opportunity to address the us growing on the ease with developments and has country heard talk hailed the bilateral relationship with the us calling america, israel's grievous friend and partner, but he also spoke about unrest at home, acknowledging and intense and painful debate over benjamin at me, i was hard line policies. the prime minister is seeking to limit the power of
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israel supreme court and expand your settlements and the occupied westbank hands dogs appeals at home for a compromise on the traditional overall is so far proven elusive. then a speech he saw to reassure lawmakers that israel's democracy was alive and kicking a we built a nation states which has phased reliance, less war towel and diligence of my zation since it's birth country fighting to defend itself from enemy info yet whose citizens continue to greet is of each other with the word piece shut along the country, which takes pride in its vibrant democracy, its protection of minorities, human rights and civil liberties. as laid down by its paula meant victor message and safeguarded by a strong supreme court and independent judiciary. the
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announcement to aaron, david miller, he's a senior fellow at the carnegie endowment for international peace focusing on us foreign policy for more than 2 decades. he served as the state department, middle east analyst adviser and negotiator, in democratic and republican administrations. mr. miller and welcome to the day standing ovations there and congress for the is really president for the prime minister, had to wait until monday to even get an invitation to the us as returning to office . what's the message here? i mean, the medium is the message, frankly, and her text visit directly is more emblematic than it is a driver of events. and i think the point car for any right, extraordinary the 2nd time in the present, the result was met with the united states with a year. and today yesterday and today the vice president sector, state national security advisor. you saw the reception in congress,
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which is quite extraordinary. prompting a or a resolution supported us is really relationship, both by 99 democrats, such a one. the image, the other is of a guess, arguably an invitation. no time, no venue fix between benjamin netanyahu and the present in the united states who is frankly not interested in going to war with benjamin netanyahu. uh, president stone wants to fight with his early for a ministers is distracting. it's annoying. it can be politically damaging. but the same time is clear, he is not prepared to embrace this is not the benjamin the to navigate, to buy and has known over the previous 3 or 4 projecting it's, this is a risk p not cautious. prime minister who is desperate and travel abroad. tribals referred to breach of trust and, and the pays are bad if,
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if the elections were held tomorrow and let, you know, could not put together a government, therefore, you need to keep this one together and that means play game, right when extremist. and that wouldn't been, was ministers of how bother to think that and you know, is by those, by her it's all going there and him hardly being invited. you know, it's funny because some people think that bbc b, b mentor know better than nothing. now skin is, is, is uh, is heard hard. uh, others obviously believe that is, is ego, uh ways. um, it was the dominant issue with his character. i mean, i think of course he's trouble. he's told why a lot of see he's got protest, military reserve is threatening, not your duty. history drooped the largest yearly trader union, threatening the possibility of a massive strike. and again, he's got um not much to show for his relationship with the withdrawal,
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but there is a great concern in congress and the wine has about democratic backsliding in israel, but is not. and you know, really where to undermine the shared values. so terrorist finding united states wouldn't have an impact on washington support for israel. a it's fascinating question. you know, my, my acid test, frankly, when the us is really relationship changes, is when you have democrats and republicans in congress, both the house and the set, basically debating, honestly in all 32 issues. one, us support for israel, what makes sense? and what does it and israel's relationship trading relationship with palestinians. right now there is almost no debate on those to me. so i think keeping this, this democratic back sliding and israel over time, it will take it to investors of course. correct. but think about it, the republican party hasn't merge as the israel right and wrong. and sure to know
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it doesn't care much for it to be for the american use community. it's much more invested in jo, goes conservative in writing public. and so if in fact the us really relationship is being underlined, it may take some time to get to the point where you actually see a change in behavior. so on the part of a minute, we only have about a minute left, but i do want to ask your opinion on this. joe biden has been very critical of the proposed traditional overall. is it a good idea for the us to metal beyond that? beyond verbal criticism or, you know, one of your religions, everybody's really in american politics is that these are always don't medicine, our affairs job baltics. and we don't been lanier's. i worked for 2 administrations for democrats, which i was overly effort on the part of the united states to wireless try to implement. and it's really why she mentioned that to. yeah,
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it was intervene repeatedly. i'd be happy to republicans. so i think the limits of, particularly for an ally and then yes, it is, is really, is themselves that will determine whether or not mister nathan, you know, gets to undermine their democratic system and the independence of dear judiciary, that it won't be the united states with the defies with the decisive factor and influence, and they're making their voices heard on the strength of israel. that was aaron david miller. sam fell out of the coordinating down for international peace. thank you so much for sharing your way with us today. take care. i and that's our time, but we'll see you again tomorrow. if you like, by the
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