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the, the after moscow withdrew from the grain deal on monday. it only took a couple of hours until a russian miss all started striking. you creams black, seaports for a 2nd consecutive day bombs of crippled harbor facilities in odessa, ukraine calls it a truly massive attack. it has hurt its ability to export wheat and reportedly destroyed 60000 tons of green waiting to be shipped to countries in dire need away from the coasts to cranes counter offensive to recapture territory under russian control. grimes on field for field village or village. about not only leaders in ukraine expect to be long and difficult. on the call for relation berlin, and this is the day the
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ukraine is continuing. it's critical counter offensive to retain that sovereign territory. in the last month, the crane has liberated more sarah tray to rush to catch it in the last year. so the russian situation is not very good. food has a group problem. how does he moved from here? what does he do? he has lost a lot of people and he has lost a lot of safe abilities. a lot of times a lot of aircraft, a lot of missiles that he's fired with the ukrainians is a significant amount of combat power. not yet. as i said, the phrase right for freedom is a marathon and madison. there's a lot of fighting left to go. this is going to be long, it's gonna be hard. it's gonna be bloody also on the day, close allies with bang tensions, relations between the united states and israel are going through
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a rough patch over plan traditional reforms in israel. but the countries president promises deeply rooted values will prevail of the sacred bonds we share is unique in scope and quality because it is based on values that reach across generations across administrations, across governments and publishes welcome to the show. it's good to have you with us. a 2nd 9th of what ukraine describes as hellish aerial assaults by russia on the city of odessa home to create a primary grain shipment port in the black sea. the drone and missile strikes costs extensive damage to critical port infrastructure. the strikes come after rochelle pulled out every year old deal to allow the export of green from ukraine. russia now also says it will consider all ships heading to ukraine as legitimate military
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target. meanwhile, ukraine's counter offensive andrews a 2nd month and officials can see that it's going slower than expected. but some progress has been made. the biggest territorial games for ukraine had been near relic. i know we know still south west of done that square ukrainian forces have been able to liberate for villages that we use special corresponding to abraham was one of the few reporters given access to the area where she found out firsthand why people are reluctant to return or this village is one of the 1st to create has taken back from russia and it's counter offensive. it's called and this coaching a which means not boring and ukrainian today that feels like a cruel joke. this coach, they used to be home to about 700 people. now there's nothing for them to come back to the board. it shows, it seems to be the pains me to see this because they used to be live here because
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it just, you know, the united voters push the sometimes it's hurts even to seize the land. the land is constantly being torn apart by showing no smoke out. the nature suffers, people suffer, the country suffers ever since that is a live stuff. is there ever since the sufferings, the assistance, the as we're filming? we experience why no one's coming back. as russian troops are treated the mind to really we have to move, the russians are constantly firing. what i was about to say was that the russians mind the whole village as well as their positions on the front lines. this strategy means every step of the territory, ukrainian troops. we gain is paid for it. with this nearby military medical point deals with the consequences doctors here stabilize casualties. so
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they can be moved to a hospital to send him his home and say, the to mean we've been seeing injuries relates to mind explosions, which lead to reputations are compromising. we can see people on the nickel loop us department of mine, injured person is brought to us. we have them for we see them even while they're being carried from the car. we can already hear them because of how loud they scream, the signal cartridge was to feed. these men are determined to avoid. they've just returned from ambushing russian positions . everyone's exhausted, but there is no time to rest. they're carrying out exercises to learn from would be seen on the battlefield. it won't be enough on its own though. they tell me they need you cleans allies to stepped off, more chocolate. i send you another filled the book who had to you. we need everything. artillery shells,
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planes and equipment. we're liking everything. you have to look at it that way. this isn't some kind of game. these are still human lives, specifically. excuse me. i ask, i'm talking about criticism that you creams counter offensive as slow as through the book of it. but the able to let them show us how it should be done uh no problem with these politicians. and so for experts, they're all talks. they're gonna see we're going, you know, any sort of in limbo and, you know, the russians are on the defensive. the shouldn't be underestimated about fighting them isn't easy and effective for us to worry about as you have just cut out. but i wouldn't say we're slow, we're actually making good progress. we people say we can go foster. it's just empty words. like when the russian said they could take p for it in 3 days, are gonna be provided for the use of the now with i'm with the summer brought the flow this is the tone of villa nova. so the russians never got this far, but we're just a 5 minute drive from this coaching in the village that was occupied here. a successful counter offensive can't come fast enough this time of year. this place
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would normally be bustling with life families and people just enjoying the sunny day. but now there's just absolutely nothing left. there's barely a building intact. the sound of artillery here is just relentless. it just does not stop. billy kind of a silica is one of the closest towns to the front lines with civilians still living in it. it had a pre war population of about 7000. now locals, tell me they're just a few 100 left. tatiana is one of them will storms because this the july. i was born here like this is where my story begin. how can i leave go my ancestors abroad here? is this my city of which one with the why should they give up ukrainian lent, which does because they are stronger. we are stronger in spirit as we speak. sounds of artillery. tatiana doesn't even flinch. the supposedly social,
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acosta. we have a red, adaptive, somehow. like there is some kind of mutation in our board is we don't, we have to explosions like that anymore. it is, you know, she loves everyone loves series because we have to survive somehow cooked emotional . she was like, there's no electricity here. no running water, no shooting and no shops. this volunteer who brings food in twice a month is a crucial lifeline to living. my husband is now defending our country in the front line and i'm defending the humanitarian front. so i'm here have nowhere to go. so i'm have disabled people at home to some pen, shanice who accepted they might be killed here. we kind of leave them all go left her hometown in the don bass in 2014, after russian back separatists took over. she liters settled in very kind of a sales this is what remains of the house. she and her husband worked for 8 years to build. they finished it just days before the full scale invasion. but it's been
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show twice. i'm sorry. it was the one to live 2 weeks with my husband did older pass it with his own hands, located advertising every week. new to on february 22nd. too late this long and february 22nd. but we finished to this room little boosted the children's room. was already done so that there's little and she made this last year with her 8 year olds. oh the oh it still works. is that this is how we celebrated the year 2022 as a family in our house course in the us to. but to question those, every time i come back to this car on my hobb deepens in the city, it's about to be a staying strong. august says she believes she'll repair her house and that
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ukraine will rebuild. but for that to happen, they need victory on the battlefield. the sooner the better the spring adjustment chrome pays the military veteran and sales international intelligence and risk analysis consultancy symbol line. he joins us from the u. k. mr. crump, welcome back to the w. now a month in to be offensive, can we say anything about where it's heading other than to quote and general mark, milly that is going to be long and bloody as well. i mean he's, he's always, he got a pretty good despite to the events, and i think he just said that most of the people in the front might have a very similar message. and so they have a nice spoken to us at the same thing, which is where people think it's so easy me to be doing better. they come here and try it. and i think that reflects the real difficulties of operating sick in south new crane. but we, we thought about it very flat open landscape. the difficulty of maneuvering that
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the difficulty post by drains, lack of control would be a huge the challenging to your credit. even before you think about the mines, go to the right front and so on. so i didn't live in hopes that they could crack open the front, the, the russian defense is be weaker than maybe that is. and i think there's elements of truth in that, but it is a growing to get to the point where maybe ukraine consults came more or more advantage. and in that regard, we've been here before we saw this west as a need for when they reach to the area of a sudden last year, using some of the tactics that was about 30 days of grind. now this is on a totally different scale where we are now, but you know, it's not i the sure. and i think that the expectations behind i think you can use getting results. um, while a village will to may not seem to match or the, the russian progress was slow. and as you just say, needs to people's homes in people's houses, these people's lives. you guys and it might be a moral victory to bring them back. you can't inside the line, but you see how important it is, the crime in the families. and so just yeah,
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the difficulties are great and a lot of homes were append on the mechanized units, especially those with western supplied armor is a ukrainian military able to deploy those as intended too. well yes, i think not necessarily perhaps is hopes that you received that, that challenging environment i there is difficult to deploy what we call combined dogs. men, 2 of us are using these forces together and the way of which of course, the u. k. the us, germany, nato allies in general, can, can deliver that sort of capability to decades to build up. um, you know, that's a lot of experience with, into being able to make this look easy as the us did in a rock new k. and those sorts of occasions. so it is, are mind, this is hard, you know, it really is so big expect to repeats of maybe what we saw in the gulf of things i thought is always, i'm realistic. if you look at the way that force is a balance and ukraine in the territory. and so, but the reality is that ukraine has temper gates worth of more modern equipment
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that is not being committed to the spike. yeah. i think if it was sort of over, if it was where the peaking fee crate and those elements would also have been committed, say not being commit isn't this. we've set the floor when you're annoyed of space and the longer those units are not in the fight, the longer they have to train the longer they have to think about how they can operate in this very, very difficult environment and actually make progress. i think the indicators when they're actually deployed to now they're not, i'm not sure if your credit is nowhere near the end of exhausting is potentially the delivery of cluster munitions of by the united states was partly explained by a lack of other artillery munition. but to what extent does it also reflect the kind of battle this has become maybe one that is not in trying to out maneuver the russians. but turning this into more of a more of a strategy of attrition on the side of the, the premiums as well. yeah. and then that's what it's been for a long time. and again,
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ukraine's use that strategy before used outside keys. they used it outside the sun before. so yes, that is absolutely what they're doing and the customers and yes, it makes up to some of the lack of supply or potential able mentoring the supply that's available for the current needs. we know that like far, lot more rounds and they all, they are probably at the moment from what we're saying outweighing the russian or to the rate of the fact of no signal enough numbers. and they've been going off the russian guns for a number of weeks now, and you can kind of really see the trends changing whether or not you believe the numbers underneath as you crate. and so we're starting to ship the balance and that is that's where a significant cost of munitions are significantly more effective. again, certain sorts of tory is run 10 times more effective. the conventional munitions would be by comparison. so they do have the ability to cost more destruction, particular kinds, trench lines and things like that way. scott, for labor wise, where are the more likely to learn where you need them? if you're testing area target or indeed guns, again, you are hitting an area. it's going to do a lot more damage, so it's not
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a necessity. it's bought a time to be useful for your credit and to you on this. both sides would have been using these sorts of munitions. it's not breached anything that are the rush where you create more than doing previously on these fields, as i've listed on expected ordinance. the. these 2 pays the hazards and heads the question marks by using them. i think in this situation, but you can find somebody, but it's not really adding significantly to the risk ukrainians and office and the volunteer. there are now also reports. the u. s. might be moving towards applying more longer range until resolves specifically attack guns with those health breakthrough rushes defense lines and give the counter offensive a push. this is that strategic talk team. so again, there's 2 ways of stopping any military from working. one of which is to find it and destroy it, you killed the crews, destroy the guns, disabled them on the other way, is to make sure they have no munition to far. which point they just targets they uses. so ukraine's been doing buddies and we've seen the effects of these trucks behind the lines. i talked to him just gives them the ability to extend the range
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of those as actually palatable distance. so it in 2 areas in crime a what currently the ukrainians using drains are using so on conventional techniques to try and deliver attacks? well, behind russian lines, having longer range missiles and we've seen it was storm shadow and then she scope the french very, the storm shudder miss so really opens up a lot more targets. i'm not just thought generate logistics supplies, but also headquarters. and of course, you have frustrated lots and lots of senior officers to strikes from headquarters and other attacks. and again, that's not a sign that your war is going well. if you're using all generals that are fairly steady rates, who are getting killed in the battlefield, that's pretty no what should be happening to a general. so this quote increases the challenge for us or and defending against what your credit is doing. but there are no silver, but it's none of the eastern nations who me the thing, the winning, some of the great. yeah. it's a lot of that to use together incrementally the attack on the cards, french on monday and today's explosion in crimea. both things that you briefly
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touched on there are these more more round boosters for ukraine, then significant military successes, the ocean discount, the importance of myrtle base, a continuous support, and maintaining the will of your forces to points and the will of your society to support them but they are more than that. i mean, strikes the coach frazier very much at the hall of russian pride. you see that and how they've reacted by an integrated deal by tom too mcgray disability and the desa, which was hardly really a military target in response to the post the bridge were such as being used to the already resupply russian soldiers. i mean, it's been the time before that been several other attempt to tax on it. and it's of a system target for ukraine because it makes life a lot more difficult if it's totally lost, particularly the rel bridge, which currently has not been pretty thoughts interdicted. that makes life a little harder for the russians and something you credit is huge objective. it's a massive check point, full rush or particular railway, and of course the top lines themselves are the top, the bridges from crime yet,
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mainland, in the north, and those accessories. and so the kind of surprises really the sort of golden target in that regard. and again, it is a symbol both ways mean the panic. coolest. the russians to the russian terrorists are still going to cry. man, because they've been told it's safe and pointing out. of course it's not in itself . i think just of the school was how important this is. even just that he's just a moral factor as well as me that tell really this attack has not yet had the significance, but destroying the ro bridge. definitely with justin crowd of simple line. always great speaking to you. thank you for your time. i can of the israel's president as i hear it's ok has addressed a joint session. the us congress sees only the 2nd is really president to do so following his father president heim, her sock, who spoke in front of lawmakers in 1987. and while today, speech was planned to mark the 75th anniversary of the foundation of israel, but had a state use it as an opportunity to address the us growing on the ease with developments
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and as country heard talk hailed the bilateral relationship with the us calling america, israel's grievous friend and partner, but he also spoke about unrest at home, acknowledging and intense and painful debate over benjamin at me, i was hard line policies. the prime minister is seeking to limit the power of israel supreme court and expand to our settlements in the occupied westbank, hands. dogs appeals at home for a compromise on the judicial overall of soul for improvement, elusive. then a speech he sought to reassure lawmakers that israel's democracy was alive and kicking. we built a nation state which has faced relentless war towel and diligence on my zation. since it's birth it country fighting to defend itself from enemy and fall yet whose citizens continue to great ease of each other. with the word piece
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shut along the country, which takes pride in its vibrant democracy, its protection of minorities, human rights and civil liberties as laid down by its paula month victor message, and safeguarded by a strong supreme court and independent judiciary. the announce me to aaron david miller, he's a senior fellow at the carnegie endowment for international peace focusing on us foreign policy for more than 2 decades. he served as state department, middle east analyst advisor and negotiator, in democratic and republican administrations. mr. miller and welcome to the day standing ovations there and congress for the is really president for the prime minister. had to wait until monday to even get an invitation to the us as returning to office. what's the message here? i mean the, the medium is the message, frankly, and her text visit, frankly,
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it's more emblematic than it is a driver of events. and i think the point car for a newsletter extraordinary, the 2nd time that the president of israel was met with the united states with a year and today. yes, certainly today, the vice president sector, state national security advisor. you saw the reception in congress, which is quite extraordinary. prompting a or a resolution supporting us is really relationship goes by $99.00 democrats. so that's one image. the other is of a guess, arguably an invitation no time, no venue fix between the benjamin netanyahu and the present in the united states who is frankly not interested in going to war. we've been having that in. yeah, president stone wants to fight with is really for a ministers is distracting, it's annoying. it can be politically damaging. but at the same time,
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it's clear he's not prepared to embrace this is not the benjamin netanyahu that joe biden has known over the previous 3 or 4 decades. this is a risk t not cautious. prime minister who is desperate and travel abroad. tribals referred to breach of trust and, and the pages are bad if, if the elections were held tomorrow and let, you know, could not put together a government. therefore, you need to keep this one together. and natalie is play katie, right wing extremists. and that shouldn't been, was masters of how bothered to think that and you know, is by those, by her it's all going there and him hardly being invited. you know, it's funny because some people think that bbc b, b mentoring. yeah. benjamin, nothing. no skin is, is, is, uh, is very hard. uh, others obviously believe that is, is ego. uh ways. um, it was the dominant issue with his character. i mean,
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i think of course he's trouble. he's trolling. why a lot of see he's got protest, military reserve is threatening not your duty. if history drooped, the largest yearly trader union threatening the possibility of a massive strike. and again, he's got um not much to show for his relationship with the withdrawal, but there is a great concern in congress and the wine has about democratic backsliding in israel, but is not. and you know, really where to undermine the shared value. so cherished binding, united states wouldn't have an impact on washington support for israel. a it's fascinating question. you know, my, my acid test, frankly, when the us is really relationship changes, is when you have democrats and republicans in congress, both the house and the set, basically debating, honestly and openly 2 issues. one, us support for israel, what makes sense, and what does it? and israel's relationship trading relationship with palestinians. right now there
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is almost no debate on those to me. so i think keeping this, this democratic back sliding and it gives you over time. it will take you to investors of course, correct. but think about it, the republican party hasn't merge as the israel right or wrong. and just wanted to know doesn't care much for it to be for the american use community. much more invested in japan, jo goes conservative and writing public. and so if in fact the us really relationship is between undermine it may take some time to get to the point where you actually see a change in behavior. so on the part of a minute, we only have about a minute left, but i do want to ask your opinion on this. joe biden has been very critical of the proposed traditional overall. is it a good idea for the us to metal beyond that? beyond verbal criticism, you know, one of your religions,
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everybody's really in american politics, is that these are always don't medicine. our affairs drove baltics. and we don't many lanier's, i work for 2 administrations for her bulk and democrats, which it was an overly effort on the part of the united states to wireless. try to influence. and it's really why she mentioned that to yeah, was intervene repeatedly. i'd be happy to republicans, so i think our limits, particularly for an ally and then yeah, and it is, is really, is themselves that will determine whether or not mr. nathan, you know, gets to undermine their democratic system and the independence of deer. judy she already gave, it won't be the united states with the defies, with the decisive factor and influence, and they're making their voices heard on the strength of israel. that was aaron david miller. sam fell out the coordinating down for international peace. thank you so much for sharing your way with us today. take care. i and that's our time,
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