5 minutes long d w. these places in europe are smashed, the record stepped into a venture. it's the treasure map for modern globetrotters. discover some of us record breaking site on google, max, youtube. and now also in the book form the this week on complex own, the form of pakistani prime minister in rome con faces when he goals a 180 post charges and fears, he'll soon be back in jail. if the current government says it will hand over to a cafe administration in august paving the way for new elections. so welcome to be able to take the west is um, you would if i'm in jail, which i think they will sooner or later put me in jail. when will they allow the body to confess, selection? that's the big question. con insist pocket funds possible and the comfortable army

is out the getting that is appealing to the well say for the countries democracy for what kind of democratic racquel does he have? he was roundly criticized by human rights groups when he was in office. how does the respond to the charges, and why does he being some saw on the telephone number on time. welcome to come, fix on my pleasure. the punched on the government says it will hand over parts. where can i take a government august? the 14th paving the way for general elections. if that happens, do you plan to contest those elections the most desolate the tim? we're going to contest the election of western is willing to allow a party to could best be election. this is the big question right now. will they allow you because you've got something like a 180 serious charges against you, all of what you've denied to thousands that disqualify you from taking box or might

it was due the age of 70. i didn't have one criminal case. and then the last few months, i've almost 180, but it's still not just that my entire body leadership is on the ground, or in june about 10000 of a work as i can do right now. so there's a door to grab done on my body. so the question is, you would, if i'm in jail, which i think there was so normally to put me in jail, when will they allow the body to condense selection? and that's the big question. and if they don't, you, you've already suggested that you might start a new part to use that time for that. well, we're speaking to lawyers. i mean, there's no way that they can band a political body which has over 70 percent rating a public improvement in the country. so we just want to know what are the tactics that use to bend the body. and then what options have you got off to that you sent

for? see a piece for a violence campaign. i don't see violence. uh, because uh, you know, elections is something the whole country is waiting for. the vast majority of people are waiting for elections in this country. and so in the, in a way that will let the steam off. but is the other. what is that they might go against the constitution and, and the lady elections because a federal news like on the 14th of may of this year the supreme court according to the constitution, had announced the elections of punjab, which is 60 percent a bug is done. but the government refused. so because the federal losing so we, we're still not sure whether they will go ahead with the elections. you've been complaining that democracy is hanging by us right in talk you san shortly. one of the main reasons for that is that you have a,

a possible ami that's been pulling the strings um, since independence in the country. and without any public accountability. why did you never manage to bring it on the democratic control? what you know, dom focused on started off as a security state. we came to being 47 and 1948. there was a conflict with india. there was enormous amount of insecurity and bug this done. that would be survive as a state where the neighbor, hostile levels 7 times the size. so hence the over lines on the military began. and almost half the time we had, we would work directly by military to the middle, various military dictators. and then the rest by these 2 families. so i am randy and outside the game and in 2018. so therefore the, the, the abi basically is entrenched in our political system. now the big question is,

how do we know more about political system into more it was a genuine democracy rather than a hybrid system. so you're fine with me one to as long as a back to you. you once put it on one you with on one page when it came to policy decisions. now that you've fallen out of love with each other, you accuse them of persecution and attempting to kill you. and they've thrown these $180.00 charges against you. did you really think you could take on the army and when looked them, the situation is it was you know, as the say, you only cross the ones because you don't have time as time bosses is no longer there is the same sort of august on it was 70 years ago, or 20 years ago when general was shut up in full is the marshal. this is a different bug is done in 20 years. we've had a free media. last time you had independent tv channels. com, again and

a vibrant media. and secondly, we had a moved one for the independence of district, which was in 2007. it started then, so i did actually became fairly independent. whereas previously was bought up the executive now. and now the, the situation and focus on is completely different. the acceptability of marshal is just 0 in this country though. so what the, what is going on right now is a, as a new equilibrium. how do now have a system where the elected prime minister has the responsibility? but does he have new taught or do to implement his program? my 3 and the obvious impala, i found that basically we were all the same page and by the army, you mean the army to because those or democracy in the army. so we what, what,

what, what 3 is the problem i had was that in the last 6 months, he then decided to talk to the he already intreat with the kind of prime minister and to get an extension. he then underlined by government. but the only problem i had with him before that was that i want to my one body is going to move one for just as bringing the fossil under the law you, when you were pushed out of office by the know confidence vote. last year you, you could have quietly accepted it, you could have gone into. busy position and waited to contest the elections. but when you were arrested last may you claim the army chief, i assume one year was behind it, the petrified you said they know that we will sweep the elections. so they've been looking for an excuse to put me in jail. you also named the senior officer. i was trying to have you killed in a way you are asking for trouble one to you must have none of the time will 1st be

you know, i might, if it was a normal vote of no confidence, i would have accepted it up. the problem was that in this case, there was a lot of money open. the money exchange has and the army chief and 3 and use the intelligence agencies. uh, you know, to, uh, bring a government down. not i would still would have accepted it. but i had started, but wanted to explain, he said, when he is a go against these to get up families. both of them have massive corruption cases. it gives them, in fact, was as a body was put into jail by and watched people corruption cases. it gives no measurable promises of the boats were done by the military establishment as corrupt . so what i objected was that off to off to all of this uh, uh, 27 years of struggle. they were imposing the same groups on us again. and that's

why i went into the public and by the way, no disruption. i just the public, riley's, the public, the little this is, you know, we are not cheap. i mean, they cannot impose his books on us in the exit. expect that like dumb she we would just accept this injustice and that's what happened. the people responded out of 37 by elections like bobby sort of heard you of them despite the establishment supporting them. now that's when they got water that that's when they tried to kill me. that was my 1st that's, that's an issue with them. sometimes the july or something of course much. they've denied mr. tom. well, do you, you claim to want democracy in progress done but, but many of you actually don't seem to bear that out. you rejected the results of the 20. 13 election was the boat and i was sherry's to pass. and when his government rebuffed your demand to stand down or hold due elections, you threaten to storm his house. how, how democratic was that?

us a lot and doing thousands of elections were reg establishment then joined hands with the luxury when rigby elections are. we all of them was that out of the $132.00 petitions of the nation about the federal government, we suggest the board random ones just have an audit done. and if, if there's no reading, we would accept it. right. so the address 2014 your at to this alongside those of a hard line is limits. preacher here on the country a time, the parliament, another government buildings, at least 3 people were killed on hundreds injured, a new fund, the flames of violence when talks failed. what did that have to do with democracy? this is not true. let me tell you the exactly what happened. we aust full full of the constituents used to be opened up out of $133.00 which would challenge they

refused. we did a protest and we did a protest, $426.00. there's been nothing happened except for one day. nothing happened to the most peaceful protest. all right, just asking them to do a, a check on the election. it actually went to the supreme court then, but it was never violent. the one night that was violent was unfortunately, you know, we, another party also joined us in the bro does. and so, um, you know, they something happened one night and there was shelling and so on. but the, this is, you told the crowd, i'm prepared to die here. you said i've loved the government plans, a major problem found against us tonight. i'm here till my last breath. it's almost as if you wanted a punch out. no, no, no, no, no, this is right. what you're talking about right now, what's happening? i mean, it's completely different. what's happening right now,

while you're talking about 9? i was trying, i was talking about 2014. i was talking about 2014, the more of the month. you know, i mean, what happened was, i mean it's a, i could go into details. i mean did try to disrupt a peaceful protest and they tried to remove us from them, then that was the, i guess, the and so on and drives as good as a way. and so we resisted that. but i mean the, the factors in my 27 years, i have, or was a everyone to remain within the constitution and exercise, i right, what be sore throat this? and that's what it was a 126. the only one that was the biggest challenge, the uncertainty, if you guys have these beautiful people died, why not control your supporters instead of stoking the vitamins? what we saw this year in may this year, your arrest by palomino to troops. there's a lot about high cool. there's lead to protests and rioting by your supporters across the country as well as vandalism,

against military installations. at least 8 people died, probably many more. what the oh, what if they die full? of plastic case of blame the victim. what happened on the 9th of may? i was sitting in inside the so i'm about high gord. i had low, there was no warrant to just be for us for a while. i was sitting the building in the forms. i was, there was an attack by not just ranges, but the bundles, tomatoes game, and then this was, this is visible everywhere. big game. and the, brought to that uh, are just the opposite. was sitting in the beach of everyone that my lawyers were beach enough to stop was beaten up. i was it on my head and the drag me out like a criminal. i mean, when these images went out, there was obviously going to be

a reaction. did you call what time did you call them a bad 111. what was this competing? bear in mind, the supreme court then that the foster verdicts that bought it, and this was not a risk adoption, was unconstitutionally non lawful. so i was the victim of this, and this the way that we didn't b as the reaction to that. there was always going to be a reaction. i mean, imagine the head of the biggest body being treated like there is. so there was going to be a reaction, but the question is, water that we've ordered that last will on cost you to act. the question is, i like the question and answer well, some the questions on whether you, you tried to stop it mister. com, you'll often you'll often do flat, committed my hold on hold on them or not. i was in june. foot board is how was i supposed to stop? i didn't even know what was going on when to produce, but it in front of the supreme court, keep justice. that's the best i found out about the violence and i condemned to

immediately. mister brown, you'll often declared commitment to democracy. it doesn't seem to have been appreciated by everybody when you impart in 2021 your last full year and office human rights watch says you'll government stepped up its efforts to control the media and cut out this send all star. it is highest and at times, detain jarvis and other members of civil society for criticizing government officials and policies that said, are you proud of that? i wish they would give me specific incidents we have investigated. they would then, incidents of dentist, you know, who claimed that they had been mistreated dentist, evidence. my body was only responsible for one of them. my government, which amazingly, with the ability to go for them related to the security bosses, we were coming out of the war on debtor. and they didn't part of that that these

guys were always stepping in the principal vendor but and so on. nothing to do it by government. you cannot compare them. what is going on right now? the best journalist, 100 out of the country murdered for, for what the objectives have run out of the country. us other gymnast who is the highest viewership on youtube, has been abducted for 2 months. his family doesn't know where he is or media is controlled today, my name is brought to to be mentioned on television. the stay with you. all right, cool. anyone doing martian roses is that sort of media climbed on somerset camera. stay with your record because stand in 2021 human rights. what said the authors expanded the use of draconian sedation and counter terrorism laws to stifle dissent and strict. they regulate civil society groups, critical of government actions authorizes also cracked down on members or supporters of opposition, political parties. and then you, you run

a pretty nice the government into what is human rights watch, just making this up the, i wish that would give some specific examples because i can tell you, my dime was liberal. judith, she was never interfered with. the police was never to, to victimize people. 10000 workers of buying, i'm jill today is dies. senior leadership was in jail. me the number of times the opposition did protest not wants to try and stop them. they have never even allowed us to do one piece of protest on the go on your grab, don't listen. this has never happened in our history. people, i mean, but up a number of the night, houses are broken and houses are run by the police. this is, i mean the, the reading of denver, i know. even in general, the shuttle's marshal. it was liberal compared to what is happening right now. in

terms of 21, your own human rights commission. pakistan's own human rights commission was caving about. what's it called your government's deliberate attempts to malign you must human rights defend the agendas, the governments increasingly or sorry sir, in terms of the service provided, says no room for consensus building between the state and civil society. they get it wrong as well, or are they making up the slums? are they biased? what do you say the look of them? uh, i never claimed that you know, we, there was, uh, this uh, you know, ronald does great democracy be just the we installed and not 3 and all of us bear in mind that in the last 60 is half the time was. but if he doesn't have the time these 2 families, so mike government, this was the 1st time we were involved. and i could tell you if you look at our record in terms of victimizing the opponents, 95 percent of the case against all political opponents. but an edited by us not

initiated by us. i'm merely, we would try to pursue the same guesses which we in the edited. there was no victimization. i think the opposition and do any of riley's, there was the wrong largest as long but not one. this was registered against them, a 180 cases. it gives me most of them deborah's and goods. the murder cases that will corruption because there are a blossoming a case against me. and in the last 7 months, this has never happened in a history. i was about to break a word record, reached by double essentially. i mean, every day i wake up there's another is an or remember, or my senior leadership was in jail or, or they're in hiding. so, i mean, i'm towards the i submitted today. i caught you at this point, it's outside by of the check anyone who comes inside and what's the martians?

all these sort of things that will happen. let's, let's talk about some of your attitudes that's of the excited. so we say less than into z, as in by the international community. in august 2021, you welcome to tyler brands, seizure of power in afghanistan, saying that the afghans had broken the shackles of slavery. as i've been seeing how the women of afghanistan saw from breaking the shackles and had them brucely re attached by the toddler box, would you like to revise that opinion or do you choose just the number one? this was a speech. talking about. many mental colonialism. we were trying, we, as the speech dealing with a changing, uh, uh, education syllabus curriculum because we still have the order below near the curriculum. whether it's one of these heading list medium under the rest of the

medium. and that was this big gap between the rates and the book because of this education. so that what i was trying to do, it was a normal speech in or do i was trying to tell them that we have to break these mental janesville slavery. and basically i was as a part that in a lot of funding within the independence, this was made into such a big thing. i mean, the revised it. i've given you a chance to revise your opinion of the bible as the wicked, wicked beat women, when they demonstrated for their rights width. uh, the buzz system list. i'm just getting let's get the fax, right. i guess the british in the 19th century, the law, i've got that independence they freedom when the, when the british left soviet. so the 20th century when the left, they've got the free. so the us from the left, the god, the freedom. that's how you it's just

a fact. now going to be thought about the 1st of all. whichever government does empower and nobody's done. august on has to have good relationship with them. i had very good relationship or tried by best with the honey government, leave us government. i went to govern. i invited him as a prime minister. we have a 2 and a half 1000 kilometer border with applied as done. we don't look up on a lot us donna's balaban government drug. i need government. we look upon them as a one government because if we don't have good relationship with vio, von government, the 3000001 refuges living in august on, sorry, would refuse to condemn the crimes you'll receive the that correct? no, no. first of all, let me just, yeah, so that you understand what you have a gun with this dave vargas, then you should have good relationship with them. because in the previous then there was 3 that is groups operating from a lot of sorted into by august on the piece i 7 and then there was the bulge, a liberation on. so from our point of view,

if we have good relationship with the law and government, then they will control this across the board of terrors. and that is the main reason. now you can look up, the bottom one must defend themselves, whatever you don't, they shows you haven't got this pulled. you, you have, you have nothing to say about the summary executions or enforce disappearances of more than a 100 form. i've gotten security personnel, but hundreds of people who were evicted from the homes. you have ministrations that we must strengthen them, stabilize the current government for the sake of the people of afghanistan. so why would you a self declared democrat one to strengthen a government, but was still is were pressing brutalizing so many people are not gonna stop. that's. that's what people in the west by difficult to understand the 1st of all as the prime interest of the country, my top priority is people are focused on what is good for them. what is good for

our people is based upon his son. there's been 40 years of conflict and a lot of stuff. and whenever there's a conflict and i'm gonna stop, it spends a way to, to bug expands tribal areas. and so we, we then phase destabilization in northern, in the northwest and border. so therefore, i mean, it's not up to me to start in water lies. think about other countries, right? you don't have any principals, you know, they are principles. but you know, when you talk about foreign policy of the country and let me tell you the western countries right now, our democracy is big, dismantled in front of their eyes. instead, once did with a district, i mean, they talk about, but not something happens in hong kong, the top level china full of being on the demo. good to go right shop. oh oh, because i know about which seems to me about it. you, the videos are good for that is focused on this month, the democracy of the $10000.00 people and do the sort of victimization going on and

sort of planned on, on media. so is that a statement by anyone? because it's not in their interest. so the country is the western countries looked at their own interest and should be there to sort of mileage of human rights are the, is there any condemnation? no, because in the is a strategic i like a but it was because china, so doing dos, countries like us who have 100000000 bundle people in this country. 50000000 below the poverty line. 50000000 just above it. this is our priority. it is all these you, us be give statement against the we goes, what china doing all of the ukraine, russian country where we've gone to for these model instead. but because our statements go to that, people going below the poverty line in this country or so. so i'm as a prime minister, this one is going to bro brother to rather than of woke up a dog,

i guess all the wrongs being done. and this was all right and wrong because we have to leave it the thank you very much indeed for your time. my pleasure to thank you . the, the, the

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