is the station with all dissipating the way to new elections. so we'll be able to take conflicts on d. w would or sports scoring. we say there were about never giving up sports flies every weekend on dw the this week on comfort zone, the former pockets tommy prime minister in rome con faces what he calls a 180 full charges and fears. he'll soon be back in jail. if the current government says it will hand over to a cafe administration in august paving the way for new elections. so welcome to be able to take. the question is, you would, if i'm in jail,

which i think they will sooner or later put me in jail. when will they allow the body to confess, selection, that's the big waste of time in the system. but the coffee sounds powerful and the comfortable army is out to get in and is appealing to the well say for the countries democracy, for what kind of democratic racquel does he have? he was roundly criticized by human rights groups when he was in office. how does the respond now to the charges, and why don't we being some saw on this holiday? and we're on time. welcome to come, fix on my pleasure. the punched on the government says it will hand over parts. where can i take a government august? the 14th paving the way, for general elections. if that happens, do you plan to contest those elections the most desolate the tim? we're going to contest the election of west. it is. will they allow a party to contest the election? this is the big question right now. will they allow you because you've got

something like a 180 serious charges against you, all of what you've denied. doesn't that disqualify you from taking box or might it was to the age of 70. i didn't have one criminal case. and then the last few months, i have almost a 180, but it's still not just that my entire body leadership is on the ground, or in june about 10000 off of work as i can do right now. so there's a total grab done on my body. so the question is, if you would, if i'm in jail, which i think they will sooner or later put me in jail, when will they allow the body to contest selection? that's the big question. and if i found you, you've already suggested that you might start a new part to use that time for that. well, we're speaking for lawyers. i mean, there's no way that they can band a political body which has over 70 percent rating

a public improvement in the country. so we just want to know what are the tactics the use to bend the party. and then what options have you got off to that you're saying for see a piece for a violence campaign. i don't see violence. uh because uh, you know, elections is something the whole country is waiting for. the, the, the vast majority of people are waiting for elections in this country. and so in the, in a way that will let the steam off. but is the other, what is the they might go against the constitution and, and the lady elections because the federal news that on the 14th of may of this year, the supreme court according to the constitution has announced the elections of punjab, which is 60 percent of bug is done, but the government refused. so because the federal losing so we, we're still not sure whether they will go ahead with the elections. you've been

complaining, but to democracy is hanging by a thread in talk you san shortly. one of the main reasons for that is that you have a, a possible ami that's been pulling the strings um, since independence in the country. and without any public accountability. why did you never manage to bring it on the democratic control? what you know done by just on started off as a security state. we came to begins 47 and 1948. there was a conflict with india. there was enormous amount of insecurity and bug this done. that would be survive as a state with a name, but hostile levels, 7 times the size. so hence the over lines on the military began. and almost half the time we had, we would work directly by another key to the middle, various military dictators. and then the rest by these 2 families. so i am randy

and outside the game and in 2018. so therefore the, the, the abi basically is entrenched and i'll pull it to go to the system. now the big question is, how do we know it more of a political system to move into was a genuine democracy rather than a hybrid system. so you're fine with me. i'll be one to as long as a back to you. you want us to put it on one you with on one page when it came to policy decisions. now that you've fallen out of love with each other, you accuse them of persecution and attempting to kill you. and they've thrown these $180.00 charges against you. did you really think you could take on the army and when looked them, the situation is more of a you know, as the say, you only cross the ones because you don't have time as time bosses is no longer there is the same sort of august on it was 70 years ago or 20 years ago when

general the sheriff impose the marshal. this is a different bug is done in 20 years. we've had a free media. last time you had independent tv channels. com, again and a vibrant media. and secondly, we had a moved one for the independence of district, which was in 2007. it started then, so i did actually became fairly independent. whereas previously was bought up the executive now. and now the, the situation and focused on is completely different. the acceptability of marshal is just 0 in this country though. so what the, what is going on right now is a, as a new equilibrium. how do now have a system where the elected prime minister has the responsibility? but does he have new taught or do to implement his program?

my 3 and the obvious impala, i found that basically we were all the same page and by the army, you mean the army to? because those are democracy in the army. so we was like, well what 3 is the problem i had was that in the last 6 months, he then decided to talk to the he already intreat, but the kind of prime minister and to get an extension. he then underlined by government. but the only problem i had with him before that was that i wanted my one box. he is going to move one for just as bringing the fossil under the law you, when you were pushed out of office by the no confidence vote last year you, you could have quietly accepted it. you could have gone in. busy position and waited to contest the elections. but when you were arrested last may you claim the army cheese. i assume one year was behind it, the petrified you said they know that we will sweep the elections. so they've been

looking for an excuse to put me in jail. you also name the senior officer. i was trying to have you killed in a way you are asking for trouble one to you must have none of the time will 1st be you know, i might, if it was a normal vote of no confidence, i would have accepted it. but the problem was that in this case, and there was a lot of money open, the money exchanges, hands of the army, chief and 3, and use the intelligence agencies of you know, to bring a government down. not i would still would've accepted it. but i had started, but wanted to explain to you said what is a go against these 2 families. both of them have massive corruption cases. it gives them, in fact, was as a body was put into jail by and watched people corruption cases, it gives no measurable promises of body bolts was done by the military

establishment as corrupt. so what i objected was that off to off to all of this uh uh, 27 years of struggle. they were imposing the same groups on us again. and that's why it went into the public. and by the way, no disruption. i just did public riley's the public. the little this is, you know, we are not cheap. i mean, they cannot impose his books or mazda and expect that like dumb sheep, we would just accept this injustice. and that's what happened. the people responded out of 37 by elections, my body sort of 30 of them despite the establishment supporting them. now that's when they got water that that's when they tried to kill me. that was my 1st is that's an issue with them. sometimes the july or something of course much. they've denied mr. tom. well, do you, you claim to want democracy in progress done but, but many of you actually don't seem to bear that out. you rejected the results of

the 2013 elections. the button that was cherry's to pass, and when his government rebuffed your demand to stand down or hold you elections, you threaten to storm his house. how, how democratic was that? a lot, and 2000 elections would reg establishment. then join the hands of the luxury when vig, the election, audrey austin was that out of the $132.00 petitions of the nation about the federal government. we suggest a board random ones, just have an audit done. and if, if there's no reason we would accept it. right? so the address 2014 your at to this alongside those of a hard line. islam is preacher, i have one country attacked the parliament, another government buildings, at least 3 people were killed. i'm hundreds injured. and you find the flames of violence when torques failed. what did that have to do with democracy? this is not true. let be

a tell you the exactly what happened. we aust full full of constituents used to be opened up out of a $133.00 which would challenge they refused. we did a protest and we did a protest $426.00. there's been nothing happened except for one day. nothing happened to do with the most peaceful protest. all right, just asking them to do a, a, a check on the election. it actually went to the supreme court then, but it was never a button. and the one night that was violent was unfortunately, you know, we, another party also joined us in the protests. and so, um, you know, they something happened one night and there was shelling and so on. but the, this is, you told the crowd, i'm prepared to die here. you said i've loved the government plans, a major product down against those to my i'm here till my last breath. it's almost

as if you wanted a punchout. no, no, no, no, no. this is what i want you to 0 right now. what's happening? i mean it's completely different. what's happening right now while you're talking about 9, i was trying, i was talking about 2014. i was talking about 2014 the more of the month. you know, i mean what happened was, i mean it's a, i could go into details. i mean did try to disrupt or be so brought this and they tried to remove us from there and then there was the, i guess the and so on and drives as good as a way. and so we resisted that. but i mean the, the factors in my 27 years, i have, or was a everyone to remain within the constitution. an exercise i write, what be sore throat this and that's what it was, a $126.00. the only one that was the biggest challenge, the uncertainty, if you guys have these beautiful people died, why not control your supporters instead of stoking the vitamins? what we saw this year in may of this year,

your arrest by palomino to troops. there's a lot about high cool. there's lead to protests and rioting by your supporters across the country as well as vandalism, against military installations. at least 8 people died, probably many more. what the oh, what did they die? full of plastic case of blame the victim. what happened on the 9th of may, i was sitting in inside the so i'm about high gold. i had low, there was no water and to just be for us for a while, i was sitting the building in the forms. i was, there was an attack by not just ranges, but the bundles, tomatoes game, and then this was, this is visible everywhere. the game. and the brought to that, uh, or just the opposite was sitting in the beach of everyone that my lawyers were beaten

up. the stop was beaten up. i was it on my head, and the drag me out like a criminal. i mean, when these images went out, there was obviously going to be a reaction. did you call? what time did you call them a bad 111. what was this competing? bear in mind, the supreme court then that the foster verdicts that but this was not a risk, abduction was unconstitutionally unlawful. so i was the victim of this. and this, the way that we didn't b as the reaction to that. there was always going to be a reaction. i mean, imagine the head of the biggest body being treated like there is. so there was going to be a reaction, but the question is, water that we've ordered that last long cost you to act. the question is, i like the question and answer well, some of the questions on whether you, you tried to stop it mister. com, you'll often and you'll often do glad committed my hold on hold on this one i was

in june, foot board is how was i supposed to stop? i didn't even know what was going on when to produce, but it in front of the supreme court give justice. that's the best i found out about the violence and i condemned to immediately. mr. con, your often declared commitment to democracy. it doesn't seem to have been appreciated by everybody when you impart in 2021 your last full year and office human rights watch. so you'll government stepped up its efforts to control the media and cut out this send all star. it is highest and at times, detain janice and other members of civil society for criticizing government officials and policies that said, are you proud of that? i wish they would give me specific incidents we have investigated. they would then incidents of douglas that you know, who claims that they have been mistreated dentist evidence my body was only responsible for one of them.