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a survivor tells the story of her time in captivity and how she teaches other women and goes about safety. and from the 60 or sports scoring we say they were about never giving up sports flies every weekend on d w. the, this is the deputy news africa coming up on the program has faced but no food. the kansas dogs themselves to death, believing they would meet jesus. they keep digging up the bodies investigated have dug up more than 400 believers from shadow grades. when did speed, they could be many more. we speak to one's women to escape to death costs. also on
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the program, refugees who have fled jihad is finance, and booking of fossil say, they all being picked out of gone up because they offline the hello, i'm christine window. it's good to have your company. often months off, searching police and kenya are still recovering. bodies of members of face stalled, patient calls, who died. nimble, indeed, investigators have already found more than $400.00 victims and said they could be many more. many of those already recovered from the ground where children the pasta who convinced them they would meet jesus if they stopped themselves to death is in police custody. a wasting trial, dw phoenix muttering a match a coat member who fled before it was too late. a
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selma, masha is a building car life, i've talked to those, but actually the death shows the narcotics in eastern kenya, from truck to stop. i children and myself. and i'd be to meet in cheese as it all started with what he's about vaccines and concerns that a new government id card was collecting, too much information. real quick, buckled during the corona period. and the preacher told us that we needed to go live in the wilderness one. he said the government id cards would come and that everyone needed to be careful since the chips were evil. so the gospel started creeping into me, but my husband had already bought into the narrative of the conspiracies when the lady queen and gets it in they move to this for this, that area where they and other families be as houses and started funding. what the news, the good from on the side was allow me numbers and then there we were told that people were being given government id cards are sung. they were forced vaccinations
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out there to show the same. i mean, but the preacher told us to continue farming. well, fucked him if she even encouraged us to plant banana plantations, which would help us survive longer. and i thought i'd please, you know, mean going ahead and i'm young. i mean go back to cool. i. yeah, into that time in the for us things ton want to give them one lady told everyone that we were running out of time. there was no time to continue farming. it was time to fast law pray and eventually meet jesus. so the message came that we needed to force the kids to start fasting the unit or foot. at 1st. they just fussed the during that day, but then her husband who was attached to official said the cooking support should stay called. they should not eat again until monday i thought this was all the to from going to do. i asked him how the kids would fast. and if there was food inside the house a little he said the kids needed to fast to my boss and that they would eat once
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they died and met jesus. i think the way you should discover that when her husband was out during the day, she was buying people what stopped themselves to death this body and the sweets authorities that allowed picking up when she'd been. so i love that will months badly. my lowest children, she had a crisis of faith. i me, me, let me go to my wife and so i decided to go pray for a whole week and that's when i felt i was going to die and me. that's when i said i would talk to my husband and tell him these prayers were meant to kill us and not to take us to jesus. why left? and if they won't be all cleaned up and there was no difference with people who hang themselves. i told him that i was not willing to go on what he thought. my husband told me that i was wasting time, and that the kids would be wayward on zillow, and that they would be forcefully injected with the vaccines. and once injected what it would be a direct ticket to hell, they know what job looked into g c left for
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a finance village. her husband stayed in the forest where she had, he died authorities to katya isn't a we, but that i live glen. i'm going to get that when my kids left here. and they were very cnn, malnourished. a name. yeah. i haven't seen them since they were taken to foster care and you know, growing a mock village, selma has found a job to visit about finding the village. she says she's doing much better than when she 1st that right. well, i thought, even though now my face looked so pale, i've actually regained my health. i was malnourished. i was so sick and my clothes didn't fit, even had sunken eyes. i mean 9. she's rebuilding her life waiting to get hot children, boston and such a life away from that that's and self inflicted hung up as my next guest leads the human rights in g o. that helped expose the shack a whole account who's saying elite is the executive director of high key africa
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based in kenya. he joins us now from about. so welcome to the, the news africa who's saying, how could this have gone on so long without feel for she's being away in can you? yes, i think that's the 1000000 dollar question that we all asking. and of course, the various reasons behind that. so just if additions that are being fronted by of your story, it is. but of course that does not explain what really happened. uh, one of the excuse is we had given use that this is a fire of place, probably 1890 kilometers from the nearest town. uh, the big guy was very careful in deciding where he wants to undertake to be so persian. uh they also excuses that uh, in that area uh churches and religious institutions and on for. 3 accusing each other for see. so this thing when they received uh,
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some of this information, of course, to them its up, he had to foxridge and i, they thought, dude said they know they usually allegations that level it against a charge he does. and how did you become aware of what was happening in the shuck a whole forest? so one of the programs that we undertake, as hockey africa is that rapid response projects. and under these projects that we receive complaints related to human rights issues from members of the public and as uh, individuals out there. so this month, it was reported to us the melinda office by a grandfather who had already claimed that to 2 of his grandchildren had been killed and decided one was going to be killed. so when he reported that much to ask, of course, they took it very, very seriously, that together with him, we accompanied him to the police. but as i said, the police disregarded uh, the big, the complaints that they told us, even as hi jeffrey country ignore what had been reported to us. but we didn't when
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we decided to take the much afford revisit that this area, entities at that level. when we also confirmed that truly uh something is i miss induct. induction needs to be taken and who's saying the man accused for august racing? this called pasta pulled mckenzie. he's in custody. what is he saying as well? according to him, he said that he did not force anyone to do anything that they didn't want to do that. uh, he is a priest. there is a calling and he was actually merely uh, communicating what uh, you know, the wonderful gordon is that those people who decided to fast did that volume totally, that you did not uh, you know, uh, in any way costs anyone into it. so he is claiming that he had a mission and the mission was to save as many people as possible to make sure they go to heaven. so he is taking to his teachings. it is taking him to his word. and
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you know, the unfortunate thing is that we are not seeing any kind of re, most from his and i wanna come back to the charges he's likely facing. but on the points about him speaking to he's missing some of the witnesses that have said that photo is off the called had to pay money to stay in the forest. was they more to this than extreme religion? i mean, was their extortion here masquerading as religion? so what we know is that the, the college was a convincing them, but they have nothing to do with this wild anymore that they've been prepared to go to heaven. so all the, while the possessions they want us to sell them so that they can generate income to contribute to the efforts of the church. you know, so we have many people who provide like sort of the land sold uh houses. whereas sold the positions so that they could get this money. and what we understand is that this manual has been handed over uh to the pasta. and what charges been is
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positive pull mackenzie likely facing or so initially when he was arrested. um, he was taken to court on charges of my da and related issues, but then the police said fails that that did not truly capture what type transpired because then it would have been difficult to. i touch him to any of the that you did the test because most of those to death says we have seen some beach autopsies . why from starvation. so um they decided to change those charges and now charging him with 10 related uh, criminal charges you know from uh i do, i, i don't know. oh jeez, to uh, preaching the desk and even convincing individuals to commit to my suicide. so these are all additions that to possibly uh could be, uh you could face, but as i said, uh the investigations are still going on the last time it was brought to court. the
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prosecution uh requested to be given more time to actually uh confirm the charges to connect to finish with the investigations. so we will be uh, expecting him to be arraigned in court. uh, to take place in the next couple of weeks and who's saying i just want to tap into a debate that's raging in the country in the ultimate off of this discovery. is the feeding and tell you that the cost is really just need is have have too much pilot in the country. oh yeah, definitely. and uh, this is what we as the organization that has been on the ground that does come with this issue uh, advocating for you seeing kenya presently. anyone can just wake up one day and decide to start a charge or a more score or religious institution. we don't have strict regulations on how to manage or control or even evaluate religious institutions. and as hockey, africa, we are appealing to this digital, sorry, just to introduce regulations. uh so that,
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uh, you know, a person can just kind of just wake up one day and lead, he's follow as on a suicide past. so we have seen the edge government taking action. they have set up a task force to look into this issue. we're saying in the minimum, in the minimum, we should have self regulation off literally just 6 trucks, even if it's not a collision by the state or any other department. then in the minimum, we must have regulation self regulation where they will, you just do this, themselves can watch over each other just to make sure that the messages. but each one of them is sending out the messages that are, you know, abide by their religious teachings. that's our normal to any person out there who's saying i need to executive director of hockey, africa. thank you for your time. we appreciate it. thank you for having me.
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all next story isn't gonna waste security forces stand accused of expanding full on the people who have fled from jihadist finance and book into fossil fantasies. it is kerry now to repeat creation exercise was those who wish to return. but the united nations and the full 90 union condemned the expulsions mx also reports from the to the forest. in gunners, i pay east state. the mobile phone is all that is left full is money, lose a look through the brain now it's remains on the way he used to be. he's acquisition, it's as simple as it is cheating. then i'm going, you know, security forces, read it. yes. that's what i meant into for me. been down has enforce them to for the money and go to i went to 10 my costume. you told me when i go back security men with guns were rounding. everyone up and i wanted to get my things, but they stopped me. and if i go to the orange only now. some of those
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forced to leave have dead to come back to face the longest stays deep frustrations, cs and hopelessness. they say that buck home did face attacks, not only from good you had used the had fled from, but also to see those forces fighting back. good, good, good job. lots of those who's gonna send back? i definitely locked up in the keen assessment. and we know what will happen to us if we go back to the village when we fly to yeah, good people welcome to live peacefully. now they're sending his back to but kina what will i say to be, you know, told me, well, let me, let me if i said, it's the beginning of the toner. do you see the exercise is to help those who wish to return to home and it is a way to ensure only to new refugees seek shelter? no one is targeting any for rodney. what we're doing is that we have our bonus and
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also will come to the normal borders. then we can control them. we know who's coming in and on. we have poor as bonus. and with the pros, board has to come in. and so what we're trying to do is to try to find now those people, i don't know who the us for, for g, c, u n h c, r has condemned the treatment of one robin. can i please and call the police top to the explosions. but gun is minister of national security issue. the statement denied the claims of posts for the patrician maintains that are retains consistent with international law. yet secretary flint footage, show security forces, expanding those items. the menu for lenny's captive settlements across the forest with a home to several 100 for any score this. what for that, do you? how does that textbook and book now for so the camera and blink gloves. this
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officer on same to us for lunch and vision of the things. we have voice over his statement to protect his identity. in the 1st place when they were coming in, we accepted them and gave them a place to squat for some time. then we will register them with the asylum seekers, but today we are sending them back. the question is, what did we see in the 1st place when accepting them? gonna enter you in high commission order fees. have set up these official reception center to provide for display as people from this how sofa only about 500 asylum seekers. i hear the fade and shouted this way if they wants to keep on asylum seekers escaped. and you had this terrible text in book enough for so, but hundreds of refugees refusing to move here clean. they come make a living. watson to come as nick, flung these fees close to the, to the
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a presence in on a positive with i forgot to middle of the for lunch here. see the options of the beginning and i told her this seemed to equal import as a new food, yet in distress directed against them for the local flattery union, the expulsion saw a clear cut case. they say gone, it is discriminating on the basis of is missus he in our life. how's going so far? difficult right now because that gives the other type what is the way something happens without even finding the pseudo seat or we don't even find and why that is true or false before the act? because i've seen that, i know the government is doing the same to what is going on right now. and so we have only one of them either because it has tim and condom our life again and gone on. because many of the, the other life i see in us, yes, they are the, the, they remove them for booking. and booking i do run for the book, you know,
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and now they are retaining them by force because they are all can even us me. why not for people on these are going to be most, most of us will people like the, like the other dr. but example, they why the reason why i say if this is munition is also, is that the i've got 5 minute drive who have rental gun? hey, we did not to see anybody be billed or target that will bucks by fault. and we want to make it clear that the people you've heard from in our reports offline, you refugees from breaking a fossil. but they are also full on the people who have been living and gone to full generations. they also say they are discriminated against and not accepted by local communities. my guess now who joins me is, has researched on how the full i need marginalized and gun isaac, and c a is a ph. d candidate at the institute for african studies at the university of kind of walk and see the program. isaac, some of the full, i, me,
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has been in gonna since before independence. how many of them are they and, and how do they self identify? thank you very much for holding me, christine. um so um yes, the lobbies, most of them for example, that i'm dealing with this again generation for landing. they haven't got sense of independence. all of them were born people that have independence, 97 before and they've been the country for quite a long time. as all these. well, i mean, the defendants good. so the farthest meaning done quite a very long time and also yeah, be integrated into the politics. i've got them and some of them, for example, where i'm looking right now available. most of them have, we integrate that into the a good or decided to of, of the area. so they'll be so them, i'll be here right, for the moment. i mean gun. and could you describe for us how some of the citizens that are excluded from society and kind of are excluded. you've talked about some
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we've been integrative. yeah, so um, there are the best ways. um that's many size collisions, for instance um with regards to what i'm trying to do right on my project with regards to citizenship and i d's that's probably interviewed for this use. so most of these for a lot of these, um, go to these bureaucrats. and for the i these, they have all the requirements and everything. but other mention of being full ami, a big bro cuz i'm saying which then do you go on? did they, did they use? um i'm some ways that's i'm a procedure. i'm not i'm kind of formal in terms of just the full straight diesel. and he's also subject to the law office of veteran and also i times the month off of those documents. the most important to the registration and these times on does
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go straight down the. busy the centers and also times also leach congress and then create a scene for them to give the company. isaac, what stereotypes persist about full i knees among the majority population in gone to i imagine this might be weighing into the treatment that full. i knew people experience so yes, so the suicides unplug it, as i started on. and i think they find your interested in contemporary issues. um, so the somebody has a, i think my know, do you have what kind of history of what, what the dynamic inside you. so um in one time doing charging me to apply um and then at um 19 seventies the comment to the from them. and then the conflict between the, the headless and the farmers and the sides. and also that's like 2 extra portions. and also in government is you mentioned the lobby. it's such
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a problem that you've got to go edition that these guys out from here. these guys all are gone. yeah, yeah. it does. the ashtray thing just have yeah. the rip is yellow and civilized. excuse me said yeah, that's you. so a lot all of you, since i've gone up that's i've actually end up paying more than my vision within the media and also with the blog as courses. yes. and we appreciate your insights, isaac, and see it from the university of gonna much appreciated. thank you. very much thank you very much. now to the game of the strategy that's played by millions around the world, we close up with one young chest stall in nigeria who is sharing her passion for the game to inspire others in her community to play data. these only such a pool, more reports from lagos,
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meet it will be a to the next queen of the chess. well, she's punting plain when she was just full. now she's in passing up the ranks. the 8 year old is a junior chest champion and then pass it up for the game of kings. is it helpful to have her stead? still? it helps you to think, gets it kindly. it helps you to country emotions. it helps you to have a plan in be it helps you not to meet your consultative. when school's a bad experience has a bad time practicing have moves in the game. she loves competing against adults. opponents is a challenge she enjoys. i feel good wanted to check um if i use a game as an thing i, if i lose a game, i always keep fighting for the games over and guess. yeah. and the tray gave
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us says she discovered the game by watching how far the play to have inspiration was the knights, the only figure that can jump over all the others. clemens, how father supports, how passion, but says is school about the balance for a long while i've been able to into flies 3 where i'm one is in with the time single. she is. she is try that. she shipments. you know where i don't really well, not, and reynolds for right any further. i said just, it's useful to hear that i know for chess is something that i think there's just not journal for her. so to find new drake as a beginning english 2 quiz on it doesn't give you is convinced that chess can make the world a better place and the ones to inspire other children to take up the sports. why not? okay, now i feel like i'm assuming this was my system of play, just love the
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studies suggest that playing chase helps with cognitive developments and improves problem solving skills. the younger ones, they have the potential to expand, the lending calls they, they, they come up so they can do so much on the beautiful possible training them young is the pressure when you're trying the kid with depression, the attention for small put more than that. you, it's consulted great results, 0 out the back to 100, right? that just play as in nigeria, including 6 international mazda bought new run mazda. so the game is we had coverage in both primary and secondary schools as a way of catching them young. and that's where it is planning her next grand can be at least thoughts means she's just a few minutes away from her dream,
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i guess on to lancaster that i did jeff and b brown last day and teaching people in the future, i'll say collected them. so maybe when they play with me and like reading them and right now because as anybody currently as well don't feel love the sound of fast. that's it for now. be sure to check out other stories. that's one dw, dot com, forward slash efforts, overalls on facebook, and on switch out for myself and the team, it's been great having your company. i will see you next time by the
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young women and young goes all the most vulnerable in the song depends downtime. devastating by global warming or increasing and wisdom, the dangers of human trafficking,
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a survive of tells the story of her time and captivity. and how she teaches other women and goes about safety. and the 13 the i should actually calculate yours and doing 0. you belong to the 77 percent because i don't go to 65 last, last goals and years. 3 reasons why. 1115. we're here to help you make up your mind. because i'm much up to you from table topics. the new culture of my dad's team and let's say together what's the quote, i'm not seeing anything that i love. and that's really i've loved her since the beginning because of her character because of her courage and how she thinks. ready
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