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the to, i'm taking my music, same going to, i mean in this for every dish, every 100 dw. what secrets? why behind being discovered new adventures and 360 degrees and explore fascinating world heritage sites dw world heritage 360 yeah. now this is daphne news, africa coming up on the program has faced but no food. the kansas dogs themselves to death, believing they would meet jesus. they keep digging up the bodies investigated have dug up more than 400 believers from shadow grades, wind speed. they could be many more. we speak to one's women to escape the death
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costs. also on the program, refugees who have fled jihad is finance, and booking a fossil say they all being kicked out of gun up because they offline is the hello, i'm christine window. it's good to have your company often months off, searching police and can you all still recovering bodies of members of a salvation called who died me a melody. investigators have already found more than $400.00 victims and said they could be many more. many of those already recovered from the ground where children the pasta who convinced them they would meet jesus if they stopped themselves to death is in police custody. a wasting trial, dw phoenix muttering a match, a cult member who fled before it was too late.
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selma masha is a building car life. i've talked to those, but actually the death showing that causes eastern kenya and truck to stop hutchinson and himself. and i'd be to meet him. she's as it all started with what he's about vaccines and concerns that a new government id card was collecting, too much information. look at the sun during the corona period. and the preacher told us that we needed to go live in the wilderness and one. he set the government id cards would come and that everyone needed to be careful since the chips were evil. so the gospel started creeping into me, but my husband had already bought into the narrative of the conspiracies. when a lady queen and when go visit in they move to this for this, that area where feet and other families be as houses and started funding. what the news, the good from on the side was allow me numbers and then there we were told that people were being given government id cards or something. they were forced
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vaccinations out there, shall i say my name, but the preacher told us to continue farming. well, thought them, if she even encouraged us to plant banana plantations, which would help us survive longer. and i thought i'd please, you know, mean going ahead and america. i mean, go back to who are you into that time in the, for those things ton want to give them, why don't we? they told everyone that we were running out of time. there was no time to continue farming. it was time to fast flaw fray and eventually meet jesus. so the message came that we needed to force the kids to start fasting the unit 4 foot. at 1st they just fasted during the day, but then her husband who was attached to official said the cooking support should stay called. they should not eat again. until monday i thought this was all the to, from going to just i asked him how the kids would fast and, and if there was food inside the house a little he said the kids needed to fast to my doctor and that they would eat once
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they died and met jesus. i think the one you should discover that when her husband was out during the day she was binding people who had stopped themselves to death. this body and the sweets authorities that allowed picking up when she'd been so another woman's bodily, my lowest children, she had a crisis of faith. i mean me, let me go to my wife. and so i decided to go pray for a whole week, and that's when i felt i was going to die me. that's when i said i would talk to my husband and tell him these prayers were meant to kill us and not to take us to jesus. why left? anything won't be all cleaned up and there was no difference with people who hang themselves. i told him, i was not willing to go on what my husband told me is that i was wasting time and that the kids would be wayward on zillow, and that they would be forcefully injected with the vaccines. and once injected what it would be a direct ticket to hell, they know what job, what energy she left for our finance village. her husband stayed in the forest
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where she had, she died authorities to cut children a. we like that. i like going, i'm going to get that when my kids left here. they were very simmons malnourished. a name? yeah, i haven't seen them since they were taken to foster care. and you know, when a mock village, selma has found a job to visit about finding the village. she says she's doing much better than once you've passed that. right. well, i thought, even though now my face looked so pale, i've actually regained my hello, the navy. i was malnourished. i was so sitting my clothes didn't fit, even had sunken eyes. i mean 9. she's rebuilding her life waiting to get hot children, boston and such a life away from that that's and self inflicted hung up a. my next guest leads the human rights in geo that helped expose the shack a whole account who st. elite is the executive director of hockey,
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africa based in kenya. he joins us now from about. so welcome to be that we can use africa who's saying how could this have gone on so long without feel for us he's being away in, can you? yes, i think that's the 1000000 dollar question that we all asking. and of course, the various reasons behind that. so justifications that are being fronted by of your story to use. but of course, that does not explain what really happened. uh, one of the excuse is we had given use that this is a far off place. probably 1890 kilometers from the nearest town. uh the, the guy was very careful in deciding where he wants to undertake to be so persian. uh, they also excuses that uh, in that area. uh churches and religious institutions and on for. 3 accusing each other for see. so this thing when they received uh,
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some of this information, of course, to them, it's a b, i defy fridge. and i be thought, dude, said they not, they usually allegations that leveled against a charge leaders. and how did you become aware of what was happening in the shuck a whole forest or so one of the programs that we undertake, as hockey africa, is that rapid response projects. and under these projects that we receive complaints related to human rights issues from members of the public and as uh, individuals out there. so this month it was reported to us lendy office by a grandfather who had donated the claim that to 2 of his grandchildren had been killed and decided one was going to be killed. so when he reported that matter to us, of course they took it very, very seriously, that together with him, we accompanied him to the police. but as i said, the police disregarded. uh, the complaint that they told us, even as hi jeffrey country ignore what had been reported to us,
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but we didn't. so when we decided to take the money to afford revisits at this area, entities at that level, when we also confirmed that truly uh something is i missed and the action needs to be taken. and hussein the man accused for august racing this called pasta pulled. mckenzie. he's in custody. what is he saying? as well, according to him, he said that he did not force anyone to do anything that they do want to do. that he is a priest. there is a calling and he was actually merely uh, communicating what uh, you know, the wonderful gordon is that those people who decided to fast did that volume totally. uh, that you did not uh, you know, uh, in any way costs anyone into it. so he is claiming that he had a mission and the mission was to save as many people as possible to make sure they go to heaven. so he is taking to his teachings and he's thinking through his wide and uh, you know, the unfortunate thing is that we are not seeing any kind of re,
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most from his. and i would have come back to the charges he's likely facing. but on the point about him speaking to he's missed that some of the witnesses have said that follow is of the called had to pay money to stay in the forest. was they more to this than extreme religion? i mean, was their extortion here masquerading as religion? so what we know is that the college was a convincing them members that they have nothing to do with this world anymore. that they're being prepared to go to heaven. so all the, while the possessions they want us to sell them. so that's a, they can generate income to contribute to the efforts of the church. you know, so we have many people who provide like sort of the land sold uh houses. whereas sold the positions. so that they could get this money. and what we understand is that this money was been handed over to the pasta. and what charges been is
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positive pull mackenzie liked the facing or so initially when he was arrested. um, he was taken to cart uh, on charges of uh my dad and related issues, but then the police said fails that that did not truly capture what had transpired because then it would have been difficult to. i touch him to any of why they did the test because most of those to death says we have seen some beach autopsies why from starvation. so they decided to change those charges and now charging him with 10 other related uh, criminal charges you know from uh i do, i, i don't know. oh jeez, to uh, preaching the desk and even convincing individuals to commit to my suicide. so these are all additions that to possibly uh could be, uh you could face, but as i said, uh the investigations are still going on. the last time it was bunch of quotes. the
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prosecution uh requested to be given more time to actually uh, confirm the charges to come to finish with the investigations. so we will be expecting him to be arranging court uh to take place in the next couple of weeks. and who's saying i just want to tap into a debate that's raging in the country in the ultimate of, of this discovery is the feeding and tell you that the cost is really just need is have, have too much power in the country. oh, yeah, definitely. and uh, this is what we as the organization that. 3 has been on the ground that does come with this issue uh, advocating for you, seeing kenya presently. anyone can just wake up one day and decide to start a charge or a more score or religious institution. we don't have strict regulations on how to manage or control or even evaluate somebody just institutions. and as hockey, africa, we are appealing to the state will, sorry,
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just to introduce regulations so that you know, a person can just kind of just wake up one day and lead his follow as on a suicide process. so we have seen the edge government taking action. they have set up a task force to look into this issue. we're saying in the minimum, in the minimum, we should have self regulation off literally just 6 trucks, even if it's not a collision by the state or any other department. then in the minimum we must have regulation self regulation. we. 3 will you just do this themselves? can watch over each other just to make sure that the messages, but each one of them is sending out the messages that i, you know, abide by their religious teachings. that's our normal to any person out there. who's saying needs executive, director of hockey, africa, thank you for your time. we appreciate it. thank you for having me.
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all next story isn't gonna waste security forces stand accused of expanding full. i need people who have fled from jihad is finance and looking at fossil fantasies, it is carrying out to repair creation exercise for those who wish to return. but the united nations and the full, i need union condemned the expulsions. max also reports from the to the forest in gunners. i pay east state a mobile phone is all that is left full of money. lose a look through the pay now remains on where he used to be. he's acquisition, it's as simple as it is cheaper than the gun, you know, security forces, reading the assessment into for me been down, has enforce them to for the long use of elk and go to i went to 10. my customer, me told when i go back, security men with guns were rounding everyone up and i wanted to get my things but they stopped me. and if i go to the orange only now,
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some of the dues forced to leave, have dead to come back to face that belong. it is deforestation. see and hopelessness. they say that buck home did face attacks. not only from good you had used the had flipped from, but also to see those forces fighting back. good, good, good job. okay. now don't sometimes have gotten a send back. i definitely locked up in the key not fast so we know what will happen to us if we go back to the village. when we click here, the people welcome to live peacefully. now they're sending us back to the kina. what will i say to be, you know, told me, well, let me, let me if i said, it's the beginning of the toner. do you see the exercise is to help those who wish to return to home. and it is a way to ensure only to new refugees seek shelter. no one is target. and then for
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rodney, what we're doing is that uh we have our borders and also people come to the normal borders. then we can control them. we know who's coming in and or we have poor as bonus. and with the pros, board has to come in as to what we're trying to do is to try to find now those people, i don't know who the the us for for g. c, u n. h c, r has condemned the treatment of one robin these and call the police top to the explosions. but gunners means from national security issue. the statement denied the claims of posts for the patrician. it meant to have that or retains consistent with international law. yet secretary flint footage, show security forces, expanding those items. the menu for lenny's captive settlements across the forest with a home to several 100 for learning score this. what for that? do you? how does that textbook and book now for so i'll come right in a blink loops,
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this officer on fame to us for renovation of the things we have voice over he states meant to protect his identity in the 1st place when they were coming in. we accepted them and gave them a place to squat for some time. then we will register them with the asylum seekers . but today we are sending them back. the question is, what did we see in the 1st place when accepting them? gonna enter you in high commission order fees. have set up these official reception center to provide for display as people from this. how sofa only about $500.00 asylum seekers. i hear the fade and shouted. this is where if they want us to keep on asylum seekers escape if you had this tetra text in boot camp for so but hundreds of refugees are refusing to move here clean. they come make a living. watson to come as nick, flung these fees close to the, to the
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a presence in on a positive with for got to middle of the for lunch here. see the options of the gun, you know, told her it is. same to equal import is enough with you and distress directed against a for the local flying union, the expulsions a clear cut case. they say gun is discriminating on the basis of is mrs. he in our lives. how's going? sofa difficult right now because that gives the other like what is the way something happens without even finding the sort of seed or we don't even find and why that is true or false before the act? because i see, you know, i know the government is doing the same to what is going on right now. and so we have to validate one of them. it's because it has to inform them our life again and gone on. because many of the, the other type of seeing us, yes, they are the, the, they remove them from booking. and booking i do run for the book, you know,
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and now they are retaining them by force because they are, or even on me why not 12, when i need to ask you to me most most of us will people like the like the other dr . but example, they why the reason why i say if this is missing is what is the, is that the out? i've got 5 minute drive who have rental gun? hey, we didn't know to see anybody be repealed or target that will bucks by full and we wants to make it clear that the people you've heard from in our reports, offline, the refugees from breaking a fossil. but they are also full on the people who have been living in kind of full generations. they also say they are discriminated against and not accepted by local communities. my guess now who joins me is, has researched on how the full i need marginalized and gun isaac, and c a is a ph. d candidate at the institute for african studies at the university of kind of walk and see the program. isaac, some of the 490 has been in gonna since before independence. how many of them are
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they in and, and how do they self identify? thank you very much for all the me, christine. um, so um, yes, the lobbies, most of them are examples that i'm dealing with this again, generation for learning. they haven't got sense of independence. all of them were born people that have independence, 97 before and they've been the country. but what a long time. as all these will, i mean the defendants. okay, so. busy the farthest meaning done of quite a very long time and also yeah, be integrated into the politics. i've got them and some of them for example, where i'm looking right now available. most of them have we integrate that into the side of, of the area. so they'll be so them, i'll be here right, for the moment. i mean gun, and could you describe for us how some of the citizens that are excluded from
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society and kind of are excluded. you've talked about some we've been integrated. yeah, so um there are the best ways um that's many size questions, but we start with regards to what i'm trying to do right by my project with regards to citizenship and id that's probably interested use for this use. so most of useful on these go to these bureaucrats and for the i these, they have all the requirements and everything. but other mention of being full ami . a big broke us. i'm saying which then do you go on? did they, did they use? um i'm some ways that's i'm a procedure, i'm not i'm kind of formal in terms of adjusting full street diesel and he's also subject to the law office of veteran and also i times the month off of golf documents the most important to the registration. and these times on does go
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straight down the. busy the centers and also times also leach countries and then create a scene for them to get the company. isaac, what stereotypes persist about flonase among the majority population in gone? i imagine this might be weighing into the treatment that full on the people experience. so yes, so the suicides unplug it, as i started. com. and i think they find your interested in contemporary issues. um, so the somebody has a, i think i know, do you have what sort of history of what, what the guy answered inside. so um, in one time they were in charge of um me to apply um and then at um in 19 seventies the comment to the refund them. and then the conflict between the, the heather and the pharmacy for the sizes. and also that's like 2 extra portions. and also in gonna, if you mentioned to me, it's crazy such
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a problem that you've got to go edition that these guys law from here, these guys down here. yeah. it does. the ashtray thing just have yeah, the rip is yellow and civilized. excuse me said yeah, that's you. so a lot of of abuse yourself going up. that's i actually end up paying. yeah. my vision within the media and also with the plug as courses. yes. and we appreciate your insights, isaac, and see it from the university of gonna much appreciated. thank you very much. thank you very much. now to the game of the strategy that's played by millions around the world, we close up with one young chest stall in nigeria who is sharing her passion for the game to inspire others in her community to play these only such a pool. more reports from lagos,
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meet you'd be able to get to the next queen of the chest. well, she's content plane. when she was just full. now she's in passing up the ranks. the 8 year old is a junior chest champion and then pass it up for the game of kings. is it helpful to have her stead? still? it helps you to think, gets it kindly. it helps you to country emotions. it helps you to have a plan in be it helps you not to be too conservative. when school's a bad experience has a bad time practicing have moves in the game. she loves competing against adults. opponents is a challenge she enjoys. i feel good when i p check um, if i use a game as an pain, i, if i lose a game, i always keep fighting for the games over and get the tray gave
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us says she discovered the game by watching how far the play, the heavy inspiration was the knights, the only figure that can jump over old others. clemens how father supports how passion, but says is school about the balance. for a long while i've been able to into flies 3 where i'm one isn't with the time single. she's. she is trying to shoot shipments. you know, where i don't really well not, and reynolds for right any further. i said just it's useful to hear that i know for chest. it's something that i think there's just not journal for her. so to find new drake as a beginning ingles to squish on it or something is convinced that chess can make the world a better place and the ones to inspire other children to take up to sports. why not? it's okay now. i feel like i'm assuming this was my system of latest
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studies suggest that plane chase helps with cognitive developments and improves problem solving skills. the younger ones, they have the potential to expand, the lending calls they, they come up so they can do so much on the beautiful parts of training them. young is the pressure when you're trying to kid with depression, the attention for small put more than that. you, it's consulted rich results, 0 out the back to 100, right? that just play as in my julia, including 6 international mazda bought a new run mazda. so the game is we had coverage in both primary and secondary schools as a way of catching them young. and that's where it is planning her next grand can be, it's early starts means she's just a few minutes away from head dream. i just want to lancaster that i did just on the
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ground last day and reaching people in the future. i'll say call on them. so maybe when they play with me and like reading them. and i found the question, is anybody currently as well don't feel love the sound of fast. that's it for now. be sure to check out other stories. that's one d w dot com, forward slash efforts, overalls on facebook, and on. so it's not for myself and the team has been great having your company. i will see you next time by the
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