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at least in the central african republic. we needs a priest. we used to preach the rights of the byzantine church, and now he's the russian orthodox thing in the process. and come to northern donna with a traditional annual fire festival in tamani. has people drumming and dancing or not the hello, i'm christine. wonder. it's good to have your company, let him importance russia effort. his summits in st. petersburg is the 2nd time he's invited. applicant lead is to meet him on home to and his attendance is anything to go by. he's more interested in them than they are in him. the last time

in searching 45 of them turned up this time almost 2 thirds of them stayed away. so what is pushing offering? the russian president has promised to supply african nations free weapons to enhance security on the continent. his country is already africa's biggest on steel . he's also pledge corporation on trade, science and technology. i'll be talking to an analyst about what all this means off to this report. the rest of the africa summit is an opportunity for must go to tell the world it's not alone, and it can still do political business. consider all that has resulted from the invasion of ukraine, internationally within the rest for and for president vladimir 14 for war crimes, and internally with the instability of a failed mutiny by the lead of the wagner private army. despite oldest african heads of state, fly in when pushing invites them. but why? the former soviet union was a pivotal,

taught not to many african states in their fight against colonialism. it provided funding, moral support and in some cases, weapons to independence. movements from us go, it was an opportunity to counter act west and influence during the cold war. countries like south africa, some public and goal, and mozambique are still ruled by parties that were supported by the us as are doing the liberation struggles. some form a heads of state, even studies in moscow. some relationships continue to be cosy, especially with south africa. russia gave deliberation, opened the amc money weapons and training for the fight against apologize. the amc is in government today and it seems, has not forgotten. russia invests very little in africa and accounts for only one percent of the foreign direct investment into the continent. and yet russia is a major force when it comes to arms. in recent years, russia has been,

by far the biggest single exporter of to the african continent. it sells more than twice as much to africa than the us to us. these arms sales are seen as giving russian significant political leverage to its customers. and then that's the most new group. ok, now it's active and molly central african republic, libya and so don prepping up autocratic regimes and exchange for natural resources like gold. it is accused of operating with overprotected to committing massacres and other human rights abuses for them. the loudness founder you have gave me pretty goshen, threatened a rebellion against the russian leadership at home. but moscow says bach and i will continue. it's operations in africa. rushes, withdrawal from the black sea grain deal has pushed up global food prices. this is expected to hit east africa, the hottest if you'll be in somalia already gripped by drought conflict and hunger

. approximately 80 percent of east africa's green is imported from russia and ukraine in somalia. the spigot is 90 percent. africa is suffering. those were the words of a new commission to him and most of fucking my, how much lamenting that the war between russia and ukraine was making africa's food crisis was responding to applicant goals. austin, keys and must go to in the conflict, puts and said he would look at an african piece proposal in the russian liter rejected as hypocritical accusations by the west that the criminal display in quote, hunger games on thursdays and putting the knowledge between green supplies is up to 6 african nations, just 10 days off to pharaoh king expos, from ukraine. by quitting the black sea green the us and sold mall on pressure relations with africa. we've invited america onto onto the program. she is head of africa praxis, full duration group. i'm not going joins me from washington. welcome to the that'd

be news africa america. why is russia giving away green for free? what are we to study? because conversation, christine, look, i think they're doing this because there's a propaganda war that both sides of fight in and russia is trying to sort of costs . and they do. it's part to promote the narrative that it's not, you know, advance in for insecurity in the global south america. let's come back to, to the summit. we know that on the 17 heads of states attended this summit. this time for a few of them, the 1st time is in 20. 19 laska blames the us for putting pressure on there for can lead us not to attend. what do you make off? the fact that most african need is didn't actually make the trip to russia and sent representatives instead. yeah, i mean, i think it's a reflection of the times in 2019. it was the 1st summits. there were more african,

there were more african heads of states. oh, just a sense the was seen a lot of african countries try to stay neutral. and so there's a perception that, you know, go in, in person to send, send speed as birth to russia might sort of kill 2 in one direction or the other. is it, that's why many of them are sending representatives, but it's also important to remember that even before the war pressure has never been particularly important partner. and so it's just, it's not, it's not particularly like a there's, there's no big leverage day. right. right. and, and perhaps i want to get into how you would characterize the relationship between vladimir pushing and his of stays in africa isn't one of mutual respect. yeah, so look, you know, we got it, but it's different depending on the country, right. so, so many southern african countries to relationship with russia has historical

length. the soviet union was one of the only is not the only country that supported liberation movements with the things that mattered, like guns and weapons and training window a fight instead of the minority winds, repressive governments in west africa, the relationship is also about in a bind no costs cost effective arms are, you know, as you know, there's a lot of chad his movements and insecurity in this a hell region. lot of which was stoked by, you know, the bumping of libya. and so it's, you know, if you want, if you need to know costs arms, russia is the place to go. and so it really depends. that's, that's been the relationship in southern africa. it's really been one done. it's been a historical goodwill is still there, but across the board, the tree, the relationship is no. and i would say today and lot of the relationship is just about keeping, keep in options open and also not upset in china. so how then would you come pay? rush at the other big power is like china that you've just mentioned. the us

collective you're in africa, a brush size at the bottom of the totem pole. china is many of these countries largest trading partner by fi and actually look, upset africa for example. there's been a lot of focus on site africa, you know, appearing open to host imputes in reality is that even though many of the people in power instead of africa do have a lot of goodwill to as russia because russia supported the amc is the racial movement the thing, the primary thing has drive into that, because for imposter today is that it's very close to china. right? and so because it's very close to time, it doesn't necessarily want to be seen as just sort of buckle into the less, right? and so that's kind of why it's trying to play this tricky role. i'd say it's, it's very similar, very similar dynamics in a lot of other countries stand by america. because i want us to see

a report from the central african republic. that's where russia has the strongest, and perhaps the most obvious to influence this is due to be private on group wagner, which effectively controls the capital city bungie and provide security for the president. and as you'll also see, russian influence is even reaching into the central african republic churches, dw is sick, also try a to many reports. now what the scaling, but the most cool breezy st. claire for you my, what is the russian orthodox churches? mom in the central office and republic? he switched his buys on time orthodox judge to the russian version, last oldest. 5 months of published an invalid ukraine. but invasion has shut them to international concerns about russian influence in countries like the central office and republic, including fire institutions like the church to don't you also think that there is

some form of huge rush of influence in the central african republic. literally, schools usually for the russians, are correcting the mistakes that others have committed, like the french russia has never called a nightstand african country. it must be said that russia is a great partner in terms of security, especially in our country. we're in the heart of africa under threatened by rebels and terrorist rushes here and we're at peace. we're happy to have our partnership with russia in the vic. let me see if we deal with or kim, you old last fall. the opponent bridges print in the russian orthodox liter, g must go of his church is sponsored by the church and soon to central african republic. seminarians would follow him to saint petersburg for study. it's thought a quarter of people in the central african republics, comfortable by d. a members of the russian orthodox church converts from the roman catholic church himself. but if i don't feel influenced by the russians, because it is

a church that teaches us the truth and them the liturgical doctrine, this is good and shows the way are said real things that i did not mazda before. most of it is now that my eyes begin to open to know the twos and the right path. just as the russian private army, the butler group products president, 1st the transport. iran is patrick. it's soldiers, watches over the center of the capital city. people here in buying, he want to speak criticality about rush of influence or actions. i thought that was good all the appreciate the relative quite mean i could quote you on the learning. i know that there used to be a roman catholic church. and baptist church was transformed into a russian orthodox church. and with the presence updates russian orthodox church, we feel that there is a russian influence in our country called the to a safe. this influence can bring security peace and development in our country.

then this is want all central africans want and what's a good role called let's see. so i beta single, single, you know, in this country we just leave through tickets of was these, these are, you know, for a new beginning is white sprayed for those who are on looks, offering it much less who runs the security or the churches really to stop the d, maybe in of america is russia offering countries like the central african republic, a solution which other countries have failed? no, no, no. um the wagner prints that presence in countries like the central african republic implicate in 5. so m r e has been primarily about with james security. okay. but that i mean, protected the government in power that are not necessarily popular or responsive.

it's not necessarily about public security, right? and so i don't think right now is this a setting that i don't think russia is, is offering something that is particularly valuable. and again, visa outliers, i know, you know, we often tend to kind of characterize the confidence by a few like the outliers, the see are the patina foster, the might be there. in my view, a minority writes, you know, the places where most africans live, the bigger countries, um, just don't have those kinds of relationships. so i, you know, i just, i tend to down play this whole thing and n 5 not in russia. i just don't think there's that much that it has to offer, to be honest. and i think that the west should focus on what it does have to offer . so rather than of spokes estimate about russia as footprints. and i'm trying to know how you would say russia is spreading its influence among

populations in other african countries where it has based interest. i mean, we've seen them taking over churches in the central african republic. i just wondered how else that would be sort of spreading their influence among populations . look there, there's always gonna be pockets of different things happening in. i just don't see any evidence that there is a significant and grow in influence of russia in across africa. in this sense of cultural power, right? i see a lot of africans when they talk about russia, it's about just the sense of pushing back against the west and hedge of money. right now that people are like, folding over themselves to go live in russia. price, most people still would prefer to live in the us on, in the less. right. so i think in terms of culture influence and if you look at music's acknowledging much of this stuff is still very heavily influenced by us not

by russia. so, you know, i, i'm not, i'm skeptical of you know, over speed and rushes that ability to spread the culture on this lines in the region. all right, and that's what we'll leave, it's a mca include, she is head of ethical practice for you. raise your, joining us today from washington. we really appreciate your insights on the program . ok, thank you. thank you for having me. now, one of russia's main proxies operating on african soil is the private military company. the wagner group, so far, it's known that it's most res, are active, and at least full applicant countries that will be served. done. the central african republic molly and libya, wagner mainly provide security and military assistance to these countries in return they gain access to high value materials such as golden, diamonds, feldman soldiers stand accused of committing atrocities, including torches, kidnappings and mass ray. my next guest has been studying volume is activities in

africa for he is putting backs is deputy director for the africa program at international crisis group is good to have you on the program fully and welcome to the the the news africa. how has the valid mcgrew managed to get into the countries where it has a presence? but it has been defined since by the countries where it is, it has been defined by the heads of states or military leaders that are running the country, which is the graceful of the us to john since asking republic and money. and what is the group's record in the countries that it's operating in the countries you've just missed? it is its presence in those countries helping. or we could probably say just like near has been more successful in the central african republic because it has sort of spectres a large needed for of economic interest. political influence,

a media influencing as well as security assistance. and the security system was changing our as well. as fight to rebel groups in the internet itself, the country a sort of whole package has to be very successful. and this model uh was um, uh, the group try to replicate this model to some extent and mommy, but it hasn't been able to done that. so far, because the money in leadership is for leading control or if it's open lexical and military strategy. and right to me serves as a security provider to the national army. actually heading our report of pulling rocket advisors. i have been accused of committing atrocities. and how is going to proceed by people in the african countries where it is active? yeah, unfortunately, why may i ask, who's of quite a few sources each. both systems are auto group, public and then in money. this in full start, i think of civilians are both summary executions. it has to come back,

it has boots on the ground, so it's combating insurgencies in both center and public. and molly, it's kind of hard to assess what people who come directly into contact with what they're come back to feel about. it's a feel about their presence and how to use it. so we've heard in molly that people have turned against walker to some extensive areas where it's corporate and on the grounds. where is the account for obama codes? people are still quite positive about the work to influence because they don't see or self or do you trust these directly? since our public is a different case, because markers been very successful and rolling out a propaganda campaign. it owns a radio station way. another for versus narratives are being distributed. and in the capital there seems to be quite a lot of support. full bladder which is seen as rusher,

basically are. these 2 are interchangeable if you will, whereas we have very little access to people on the countryside to have been a victim of wonder and uses. so it's really, it's very mixed picture. it's not clear cut. and can you tell us a little bit more about the button is commercial interest in africa? do we know how expensive the groups business empire on the continent action is as well it's, it's the main focus seems to be gold mining because gold is easy to smuggle out and a very valuable cuz he um, gets involved in looking especially central african republic and it has encroached on specific small sectors of the economy as well. so security to more private security rather than you know, military security. so it has a whole range of things in different countries um, through damage really may gold mining. it has successfully, um, it isn't a gold processing business,

and we can't really say that each bear can use all go to russia. what do you think like that's, that's what this type of. so financing crew comes in and offer certain surfaces, if you will, and it needs to generate revenue to pay back to pay some of its troops. that's a big for songs operations do. so for the credit which is tied to, it's a fairly low cost of operation generally. so why that is having wagner in africa, useful folder crandon? it's vanessa testing. to shoot projects russian influence and rashid power and to project gotcha. as an invalid, equitable partner for some african countries. um, again, since i've been public has been dismissed successful model where it's really sort of rushes now since i've been reported to me friends, it's not really quite the case in the, in molly, but it's even though the number of troops directly number of what the troops on the

ground is not in the lowest the search the russia is projecting its influence all across the region. and it's actually present use, you know, because like there's also the person sometimes or the group that you don't see. so it's sort of what my shadow that's now seen right. west africa in central africa. and finally the bottom, anita. yes. can you promotion? he staged a very short lived rebellion and march on moscow at do we know what difference that will make to volume this operations in africa? well, he himself is that it will make any difference of the machine for minister has set the right now ration in africa will continue. it will be business as usual. and some of the leaders of also said that nothing really will change. we've seen since the public that the number of like the troops has actually increased rather than

decreased. yes. and we expect to see so basically continue because it's very use, its presence is very useful for the criminal and it's a different set up then the direct, the presence that you create pulling backs from the international crisis group. we appreciate your insights on the program. thank you. and finally, it's the 9th day of the 1st month for the people of that bond kingdom. and that means one thing. fire dw smacks or soup reports from the smoky streets of the time i live in golden gun. lie to me in touch as to ocean in the new menu. these underwater fire place to the lights up the night. of course, nothing done for the people here. these 1st of all is the high points of the traditional column that we are so happy. no sleep tonight,

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