welcome to the program. italy says it's seeking a way out of china's sprawling belts and road initiative from is the georgia military needs. government says joining the infrastructure program 4 years ago under a previous government, done the list or to boost italian exports while chinese exports to italy had sold. burden is the only major weston power to join belton road. critics say it's a tool for china to spread. it's cheer, political, and economic influence of more on this last spring in china, analyst frayza. how are you? great. have you on the program? frayza just tell is this holly in government says that china is the only winter out of bolton road. is it right when it says that uh well, let's put it this way. as there are 2 renters are not equal 100. let's put it that way as they find, sorry, the chinese export state. we have certainly increased airplane does not feel it's got the economic benefits. and of course, one of the things that amazing times when it's promotes it's belton road or what's

really bad are called globalization with chinese characteristics. is that it's an equal partnership. and it's when, when i agree i'll do is by it's just not hired play back. so how is it actually playing out for the countries involved and the aging? is it guy in the way that it was planned? because i think the idea was that phasing would be investing in countries that perhaps other countries wouldn't invest in how those countries managing with bath arrangements. are they still rising to service that that's for example, as sure. okay, so of course the balance. i know there's many things so many people on china has been investing in managed, developing countries, the global side for many, many years over various sorts of programs and under siege. and they just came on to all these things get together. as belton wrote an idea of his by simply beijing was trying to follow its model. richard, i do successfully domestically all build and they will come through trade and investment. and they said, you know,

we will expand this to all sorts of other countries. and that by building that extra structure, they will benefit will benefit because it will tie but those countries into our global trading patterns. but also importantly, it was ultimately chinese companies that are going to be building much of the infrastructure. so trying that was that basically exporting it start place capacity and infrastructure overseas. and the reality is that has not played our page or say don't play the way it wants it. yes, that are the many uh they just built ports, built roads built, etc, about some of the very high cost. and many of these countries are notifying to things they can service that. not only that is that'd be probably take a lot more that basic has written many of these clauses and agreements such a way that they got transferred to initial treatment as the country started to suffer. and so that now i'm waiting. countries are strongly just, there's interest rates dropped low, late growth as solid over their products and cetera,

and other land or so those countries are on willie or naples, frankly, to deal with those countries because there's all this and the date to try it out. but it's because those companies don't want to talk about it. so it's become a bit of a bit of a zookeeper spock it is a, are a lot of make springs and they are presumably aren't going as well as the top or so perhaps easily is now there in the country. this progressing, getting involved with 1000. right. but let's talk about it totally. so the only, i mean to your pan country to get involved with boston road, but a lot of people will be asking why it really got involved in the 1st place. right? yes, indeed. i think you don't have to go back a few years for years, but i just signed up a lot of people would be scratching their heads. and it is based on the fracturing of you, paul, let's say it's a real easy i g policy towards china. but again, this was a major european power, getting signing off or whatever. and it was done for short term political life and

to just reset the government at the time, felt that this was a way to solve a, you know, a tiny thing for what the china get. so it's not easy investment. and also to, you know, to basically turn their back of brussels who felt they wouldn't know where to go. but ultimately, that's not how it works on china is, there's many cases where it's developed as dot com. i just say that it was not particularly shared. and we've also seen china just treating other you'd be countries by the way. you can look at the case of you uh, what do any of it right now? let's do any a priest back against china's restrictions on taiwan, etc. and so in your government, in this place they look, this is a very unequal treaty. we're simply not going to go along with it. and it says it wants to pull out of balance and road without timing relations with badging. is that even possible swells? you know, basically, well, we'll get all upset. it's a game play and this is

a great and so 1400000000 chinese, etc. this is classic called me, this parties speed there. whenever it gets upset and things don't go their way. but ultimately there's very little that basic. there actually is an important member of the year be junior. italy is a very popular draw for chinese students. you know, chinese to this and consumers that oh, file off. it's all you good, so it's not as if it easily is not insignificant to china tall. and i think ultimately if trying empty, especially doesn't want to go ahead with these projects, it simply doesn't go along with the chinese kind of forced themselves or not they, they get place that it can build roads and bridges. okay, for the how we turn out on this is always very interesting to hear what you have to say. thanks a lot of joining us. thanks very much. now to the us state of florida, west palm is a new laurie stopping them of the work is they need an attempted crack down on

illegal immigration by state governor and presidential hopeful wrong desantis is causing undocumented workers to leave. so let's get more of this from correspondence, catalina to more catalina. good to have you with us. so just tell us a bit more about this crack down by around the surface. so we're going to explain a little bit of the context of roger sanders is running for president. and his main arrival, of course, for the republican nomination is donald trump. so in order to defeat him and become the republican, i mean he is showing himself more extreme than donald trump in different issues. like for example, also in migration. now this new law imposes a test penalties for both sides for undocumented employees, and for the employers who hire them. employers, how you are an authorized workers. they could end up losing completely losing their businesses and their licenses. and i have committed, i'm employees can be at the port or they can even end up in jail. and as a result is of course, causing

a workers fleeing out of the state of florida. many workers are um going out of florida it's. it's almost like an exit as of workers from florida. and this is, of course, i'm seeing that the states economy actually needs. let's take a look to the report we did from there. florida is the 4th largest economy of the us. every culture, construction and tourism are some of the main sectors here. now this state is facing an exit as of workers. fewer people are tending the fields and construction sites are lacking labourers. a recent law has criminalize the transportation of undocumented immigrants into this state. probably got relies heavily on and documented workers, but the new law doesn't only have an impact on the economy of the state. it also has an impact on the immigrant families who feel threatened. and this is also why we see m tier feet. she works in a 3 nursery and has chosen to say,

she spoke to us but wished to remain anonymous for fear of being deported late. get this in your uh for so little aspect of them, which is an a filter like a digital voice. how kind of holdup is on the mazda im, you'd have to know the law that this man has signed is strongly affecting us a lot. it's especially places like this one that need us because there are many fields, many nurseries around here, thousands of to make. the law also makes various parts of their lives more difficult. the farm workers association of florida advises them that state hospitals now are required to ask patients about their immigration status. it's these kinds of problems that has this woman seeking help from this group, advocating for fair working conditions. she's been living and working in the us for 15 years, like many she has built a life here. type not having a visa. her kids were born in the us. and one of them has a serious feel at the same is how america i have to take her to the doctor every 6

months because she has an illness in her kidneys. so now i don't feel safe anymore . i can't take her to the hospital familiar. what is they asked me for my immigration status in the hospital, or on my way there? i'm afraid of going out and what if they detain me and ask for my documents by us as committed bang on. you know, i have been in musical mental from work or association of florida along with other civil rights groups had suit governor the census and his administration hoping to block the los enforcement the association for folks person events. cruz argues that without migrant labor, not many will be prepared to do the work left behind. of course not, you don't want you don't see a cajun out there bending all day from sunrise to sunset, working more than 14 hours a day. you don't see other people trying to do the job. so no,

we don't come and take their jobs. on the contrary, your you can't honda jobs right now that people are leaving. come come take it. but for now those open jobs are not in the field. a gap where migrants labors are removed with no one willing to take their place, which is expected to leave a hole in the state. so you kind of cutting a team on the process that replace still with us. um, people who are watching this and wondering what the problem is. i mean this is a track down on illegal migration. so how does desantis just define the approach? well uh he is, as he says, of fixing the open border probably see that president biden has created a rob, but well as we, as we signed the report, the truth is that this is also strongly affecting the economy in his to construction. and every culture depends heavily on, on, authorized workers in the us, but specially in florida and now miami's blooming construction industry, for example, as well as between 25 percent and 50 percent of local workers already disappeared

from top sites and also a farming and packaging companies they are also reporting that they are losing their employees because of the law as he saw in that report, many fields already empty and it was really difficult to find workers and especially difficult to talk to them. okay, kind of an issue more in washington for us. thank you very much for the update a muscle from a and a visiting handbell. and if you do a more firm, as you can have, there was indeed a way to com slash business or so when they need to be in use youtube channel as well. and of course we're on facebook as data we don'ts business until next time to get the

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