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i can stepping points to, you know, 5 points you into that warranty. one finishes. now you have a certificate from crane. you can just go back to somewhere else. coverage. the more people than ever on the move world wide in search of, of best in life. so why do i want to go back tonight? yeah. like, i don't have any reason. there's no reason that's nothing for me that yeah, do me something that is coming very, very soon on. we know when the story in for migrate reliable news. so migraines, wherever they may be, the, to one of the wes last allies in this a hell becomes the latest to slip from democracy last week and he's, there is all the african regions. a 7th cruise is 2020 and the scene is starting to look familiar as in neighboring molly and for keena, faso, a military takeover accompanied by anti french pro russian demonstrations. what
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will this mean for the people of new share and for efforts to fight insurgencies in the region? i am quite richardson in berlin and this is the day. the final switch situation can be applied immediately. one of the board is speaking countries and usually the country won't be able to withstand the sanctions economically, it's going to be a disaster. socially, it's going to be a disaster. we simply don't know yet what will happen in the chair, and we're preparing for the alternative options. also on the
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day, russia is raising the age of compulsory military service. officials say recruits won't be sent to fight in ukraine, but many are afraid. that's exactly what awaits them. we should have minutes, the system ways, but at the moment that the russia is lacking, troops was not because of the ways this can, which we can go. but as of these resources need to come from somewhere. uh, the past 4 examples of min over the age of 27 shippable for you. well now they're the ones who have been chosen as victims a very warm welcome to the day you there is military leaders have arrested for more government ministers. that's according to the party of the change presidents mohammed by soon as i was arrested in the ministers for oil and mining. as also ahead of the parties executive committee. the who has a queue is new jersey them or colonial power, france of wanting a military intervention to reinstate president present who's been held by cool leaders since last week on sundays supporters of the crew storm,
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the french embassy and the capital in the on may the french government says it recognizes pursue, as these, there's only legitimate liter, the pursuit of its policy of finding ways and means to intervene militarily in the share of friends with the complicity of certain new jerry ends. held a meeting at the headquarters of the major national guard to obtain the necessary political and military authorizations this. thus, mister moss, so do assuming for acting as a prime minister, signed the following documents up to the use. my must. so do have so me the minister of foreign affairs and cooperation and entering prime minister, authorize the french partner to carry out strikes within the presidential palace in order to free the president of the republic of new share mohammed buzzle who has
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been taken hostage to about says west african nations announced travel and economic sanctions against moved air and threaten to use force if the crew leaders fail to reinstate president posing within a week, the echo wass, a group of states suspended all commercial and financial transactions wouldn't be fair. as well as briefing assets that is worrying news for many people in these there was you might say to myself that in these areas are already going to have to tighten their belts by people going to need to don't goodman. so now what's going to happen is that people are also imposing a blockade on us because they're closing their borders and they're putting it guides in is in the case of new cher, it's true that these sanctions are very heavy. and i think we're really going to suffer economically. it's going to be a very difficult time for the country that's over a month and one of my 30 percent. that's bringing our correspondent, i'm a quite a, she's monitoring developments in new share from lake coast and neighboring nigeria
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. we're coming up toward a week since best to have the cool leaders now stabilize their grip on power. i think they'll be very ambitious to see at this point that they've been able to stabilize power. really what we see on what we can say we're seeing is yes, there is some federal strategic engagement, a spot that sheep. there is the end of the conversation in terms of mediation, we see, you know, the presence of child interest, that'd be himself going that they a spoken to the child. it is also the clips. it'd be a rude of me share. i also met with, you know, the deposed president by soon of course it is too early in the day to see that that they have already 50 nights that you know, the country or the haven't people. 7 so to see the have a long way to go, like you did, you know your head from the reports that they have. it's really not, it's a long walk. it's really going to be a long walk, right? that's a freedom because of the needs to be engagements you want to put together on what
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to do was how did they want to move the country forward? it is really too early to see that they have both the goodies ouch. really. in the meantime, we heard their residents were expressing their concerns about looming sanctions hitting the share. can you give us a sense of the country's dependence on foreign aid and, and what this will mean for people? i mean, leisure us, we do not unfortunately is one of the porous countries of the world, the continental, the world. and, you know, normally they receive $2000000000.00, you know, of funds from an award. so, um, what the bank provide that, you know, as developments or developmental assistance and then all of the sudden leaving cuts of that's going to put them in really the situation apart from define the finances that it gets also, you know, it's also in these areas of security plotneau us response as well as being a security problem. i mean, the book from the us for instance, of book view. yeah. babies in the share with, from where the fights, you know,
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as long as insurgency, that means that they have to bring in with the technical, know how to bring your mom's house to bring in expertise either into the country. all of these now have so we know also that the youth significantly increased the security. so these are all of the fees that you share with the house of golf. always. they have to figure out how did they move forward? so indeed, the concerns of the people that we had is really, really legit because they have tough ideas. i had a little co pay of evil i had depending on how long it gets them to get this right . so even when it makes sense when i put on mine and was. ringback appealing to the technical part of the national, but this is indeed what it was with buried because in the uh, the hub alone, we a deal we'll be needing the support. how would they be able to do this all by themselves? roommates? the crucial question. absolutely. well, thank you so much for joining us to break that down. that's the database correspondent am i co call you back. so i would need to so as we've
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heard these crisis in these areas, also on the agenda in europe and here in berlin, germany says it has suspended financial aid and warrants it could take further measures. germany has about a 100 troops stationed in new jersey to help train local forces. here's the german defense minister speaking today. the. those are responsible for the crews say they will abide by all the international arrangements and agreements that remains to be seen. one definitely gets to put some time since we are in contact with our counterparts in new share through various channels. that means there are talks, there is contact. so for some context on this led to bringing of placing the head of this a health program at the corner of an hour foundation, which is associated with the germany's conservative opposition cd you. he's joining us today from the molly and capital. i'm a co thank you so much for taking the time. i wanna start by asking you why news air has been so important for europe and for the west. i mean, it's not just,
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it's the most important security partner for the west. it's also especially for europe, it's extremely important because it goes to mike rentro domain, mike rental from south side, and i forgot to leave behind ended mr. terry and codes. so it's a very poor country, but it's so teach it gets the only security partner and it's basically just stop gap for europe to avoid, to more over, to drifting migration reaching your oh yeah, i'd like to talk to you more about that. as you've said, measures been an important friends at point for people who are fleeing violence to try and make it to europe. how do you think that the political instability in these air is going to affect migration rates? yeah, i mean, i'm sure the big question is now as a new rule, as well as that might be. but on as a previous agreement for the european union to basic, you could also see zeroed from, i got this town and all of them the job to the jail. that basically, you know,
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we do generally low watch migration levels since 2015. and that's not clear what's going to happen. indeed, the issue is then, if now the armies busy your offices busy playing politics, you know, fighting for how long to capture, they've left less resources, you know, actually battling g at this sort of, it would be more instability and properly then this is going to be extracted by human traffic costs. okay, so security and migration at top of mines in europe, france will also presumably be concerned about it's access to uranium since we know new jersey crucial supplier. now, the mining minister of the elected governments has been arrested. all our mining activities continuing their it according to my information guess, i mean, it's, uh, i mean, everybody's now concerned a bit, you know, the part is closed, but otherwise it appears to be, you know, the businesses use or for the time being of course we don't know what position that the next couple of months will take concerning mining concessions. you're looking
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a little more broadly. what do you think germany and other european states are going to do here on the one hand, they need allies in the region for many of the reasons we've discussed. but do you think that they would work with a military junta? i think david has no choice, mean dad, they're running really fast. out of options 1st, molly went into the hands of the military, done booking of fossil you need. uh no need. yeah. i mean, if they, if they come to, you know, to, to difficult or, you know, refuse dealing with military or government say they might as well stay in europe. so they would have no choice because the baby crucial for, for europeans to. ready will keep migration those shows the road soon. the gym concept. it's now the top is subject and many, you know, european countries and you know, posting right extreme is potty so now is that trying to you know, get to purchase to step down. this probably won't work, but eventually i think they have to come together and,
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and also walk again with with leisure, even mondays ever ready to continue working visit manager government. they offered for our shop. i just was not to europeans who and at the corporation was molly? yeah, it's basically more about that. do you see in this case and nice in new share russian involvement in any way or how to what degree do you think that this military junta is going to seek alliances? there? i'm. i'm bit skeptical because, and i just has, has traditionally have very strong relationship with western countries. phones. that's not even the russian embassy. we've seen a pick up in this information spread from, you know, russia link channels. so just to post sticker to purchase the bit. but i'm skeptical the new dealer, the new rudest would make it to you if it's block. now, because the russian have i just anything for, for easy i always want to get paid and, you know, my job doesn't have service sources to, you know, i am as scenarios and i, i'm not so sure to rush, i would try to talk about, you know,
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relationships and stuff, but i think in reality, not much is going to happen. and we have seen um, footage of these large raleigh's of people who are supporting the qu, leaders. is it clear at this point, how much public opinion, how much public support rather, there is for the military junta here? it's really how to say, i mean i, i make the case of many new jersey and still, you know, you know, on save off as a one, but now keep the headstone trouble. i trouble these protest 50. so, you know, the weekend, you know, russian flex, people shouting 14, these are young people, basic you money play to draw, you know, probably part of the pay for paper. just do you know, to, to stop things a bit like you've seen in other countries. so it's not a genuine. ready no ration fall for the purchase. on the other hand, also, no army unit has come to the risk, you'll buy them. so it seems to me to have to purchase that, going to stay in that least take, you know, to have support
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a fee to keep play as well. really my time. yeah. and you mentioned the role of this information here. can you tell us a little bit more about how that has played out in this particular situation? yeah, i mean, i mean, you know, do you have these pro rush i chose for just focusing 1st on monday, getting defense on the out and making me no smarty un operation. i'm popular then focusing books. you know now most recently they're very active and nyja just to strain by zoom as an agent or from those are worse than that. oldest military corporation was based on countries as failing just to make him look in his, in the eyes of his population, us astray, to go. and uh, him know why the cause unfolding last week there was a huge pick up, you know, all sorts of claims that both of them already had resigned and stuff so that they're really trying know, to make most of it just to, you know, to mobilize opinion and the show on the ground is probably not much to it,
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but you know, many, many people decide for lack of, you know, credit with media release, thoughts h, regional, lots of groups. well, thank you so much for your insights. i'm joining us here. that is off base and from the corner, i don't. our foundation russia's wagner group has played a key role in the war and ukraine winning several bottles. and last month, launching a short lived and mutiny against russia's military leadership. now in a voice message posted on telegram, it's liter, you have any promotion. it says he has paused fight our recruitment. but the wagner's activities will continue in africa and belarus. as i am, wagner fighters relocated to bella rouge after their failed for 1000000000 raising concerns among no neighbors. like he was moscow, meanwhile, has remained tight lipped about the impact of the wars having on its troops. but a new law in russia could provide some insight into one of its closest health
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secrets. last week rushed as part of the degree to raise the age limit for military conscription from 27 to 30 years of age. that's after president food and already announced the mobilization of $300000.00 troops. last september. moscow hasn't revealed the number of troops deployed against ukraine, but earlier this year, ukrainian military intelligence claims that feature split at around 280000. the british defense minister has said 97 percent of the russian army is in ukraine. most guys publicly acknowledge the depths of only 6000 soldiers, but independent russian media outlets working with germany's tubing in the university. but that number i close to 50000. there was no independent information on the number of people who deserted the russian army by human rights group, say there more than 1000 court cases against alleged russian disorders. some rights groups say that figure is even higher. so recent moves by the government indicate
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russia, needs even more troops along with the law aimed at raising the maximum conscription age. it will also be harder for people who are drafted to leave the country, the gremlins official reason. russia needs better defenses. russia needs more experienced meaning holders soldiers, at least that's how it's parliament justified raising the minimum and maximum recruitment ages for the army. until now, men between 18 and 27 were enlisted in the future. they say centers and between $21.00 and does that gives us all the calls upon military service. usually that was the plan a month ago. but the final law, the past only raise the upper limit. the minimum age will remain 18 years. the parliamentary defense chief called the necessary steps to create a better force we considered all the advantages and disadvantages and
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came to the decision that it's better this way. we always need to, well prepared to move by mobilization, was of critics reading between the lines, say moscow needs more soldiers and in a hurry i'm in the system with at the moment at the russia is lacking troops was not because of the way this can be we can go, but as i'm ice resources need to come from somewhere, the buses, for example, of men over the age of 27, should the will for you. well now they're the ones who have been chosen as victims . i should've just seen beginnings rushes army could grow by an estimated to 1000000. officials say the recruits will not be sent to fight and ukraine, but many are afraid. that's exactly the fate that awaits them. as reinforcements for the front line, the kremlin hasn't commented on the new law, referring questions to the defense ministry instead. but some parliamentarians are clearer. they even refer to the fighting and ukraine as a war and not
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a special military operation. it but this law was written for genuine mobilization and large scale as well for you. it already smells like lock, scalar wall, or if i knew it was about parking with the war, which writes, organizations say more and more russian men are trying to escape should pieces should deal over. there are more than a 1000 cases against disorders. since mobilization began much element below the at the same time them, but it's clear that by no means are they all being investigated. i would look at them instead. for one thing, it's very costly. and also, the whole mobilization mechanism is running quite badly and the blow was in reality, the number of disorders is much higher. yes, good. good. how's it going? now even more men of recruitment age are likely to try to get out of russia as soon as they can. because once they've received their conscription order,
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they're required to stay in the country. since those orders are now sent out digitally, there's no escaping them anymore. and i am delighted to welcome catherine bolton, a veteran journalist, specializing in russia now at the washington post. thank you so much for taking the time to speak with us. why do you think russia is raising the age of compulsory service? i think it's clear that now that there's this intensified fighting in ukraine, know that ukraine is launch the counter offensive. they really are in need of mind power. and it's thing we really get the sense now the pressure is digging into long coal. you had to just there in that segment, the head of the doom is defense or committee, the head of this problem actually defense committee. i'm very caught up all of say this smells now like of log scale move. this is preparation to mobilization and it really looks like they, they need more man power. and yes, by increasing the, the conscription
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h to 30 by 3 years. then they time to be able to increase the recruitment pool by hundreds of thousands. and as you said, by potentially up to 2000000 met. so just to be clear, it is to boost fighting forces. and ukraine has some fear. i'm rather than bringing more experience soldiers into the force as the kremlin claims that is doing as well . i mean, it's kind of a 2 pronged policy because they've also increased the age for reserves for offices, those with military experience already. they can now be forced to go off to you. great, right up to the age of 55 or 60 for the most senior offices. and this really speaks to does of stuff. and it really seems pretty clear that russia wouldn't even be considering this move to increase the could scription age. and this is a to 30, and this is the age of 4 for which she can of a young russians have to do
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a yes. compulsory military service. yes, russian says officially this, they won't be sent to the front. but it's clear that not doing this fluids no reason they need to prepare men for the front. and there's a real fee that this will be the ultimate a. what does that tell us about the wider state of russia's war against ukraine is man power. the biggest weak point here, you know, they've kept a very tight click on the casualty rate of the official numbers that the defense ministry put up, put the number of dead only at 6000. as your report pointed out, independent media outlets who put that figure at somewhere near the 50000. you know it's, it's very difficult to know because they've been keeping such a tight guard on the figures. the independent media outlets based on the calculations on kind of, you know, official funeral rates and so on. so it's, it's really difficult to, to guess. um, you know, but i mean,
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but the fact is the rushes still has a lot more man power then ukraine, cuz just because the population is as many times larger. so unfortunately, they couldn't keep going for one. and when you're trying to get a handle on the numbers, trying to get the most reliable information possible out of russia, where are you looking to find that? i just, you know, it's, it's, it's difficult. i mean, i think in this case, we have to rely on the biggest, put out by these very well regarded, independent media outlets for this one, cause medusa and obviously they conducted their research in a concert with a tubing in universities. so i think these, these figures are pretty reliable, they've been working hard to really get out of look at this. yeah, i also wanna ask with the increased chance that men are going to be forced to fight . and now also more recently seen grown attacks on russian soil. do you think that
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these factors will come together to produce any kind of see change among public attitudes toward the war on ukraine? as you know, already we've seen kind of a public opinion in russia shifting towards a can of hoops for peace talks. we've seen in recent opinion, polls that move in 50 percent of russians would like better to be peace negotiations. of course, uh the will plays well with a very vocal minority, but in fact most of the population by now pretty unhappy with where things are going. but that doesn't unfortunately translate into any protest. when you face joe sentences, it's up to 50 news to calling the will of war uh, in essence. so you know it's, it's very difficult for anyone to protest against this. and so far, the mobilization has concentrated on russia's falkland regions,
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where the men have very little, uh, breaks and the families have very different rights to and it's very easy for the kremlin to keep the lid and then use the number of tests in those regions. but as the walgreens on, it will have to go to the biggest cities and we already see, despite the fact that it's having to increase the conscript age, they do need more man power. which means going to touch the cities at some point. and this is going to, can be quite a sensitive movement of an already we, we had talked about this general mobilization. it's going to be, you know, last time when a pretend launch is partial mobilization by september. after having promised at the beginning of the invasion, if you've crates that there would be no mobilization actual that it would only be a professional omi that was sent in mutual event, 700000 estimate 700000 lee the country. and now russian is clamped down on
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those laws. the minute you receive your conscription papers, you're not going to be allowed to the country. fines have gone up for avoiding the draft. 10 fold. it will close each $300.00 offers or more and it will so it be able to get a mortgage, any bank loans. so if you could see the increase, notice it's katherine, i'm so sorry to cut you off there. we're out of time. this has been fascinating. though we really appreciate you joining us on today to share your insights. thanks . thanks so much. thanks for having me. and that is your to our time. thank you so much for watching the day the
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