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that's d, w dot com, the one of the west las allies, and this the how becomes the latest to slip from democracy last week and he's very solid. the african regions. a 7th cruise is 2020 and the scene is starting to look familiar as in neighboring molly and for keena, faso, a military takeover accompanied by anti french pro russian demonstrations. what will this mean for the people of new share and for efforts to fight insurgencies in the region? i am quite richardson in berlin and this is the day. the news sewage situation. okay, be applied. we immediately one of
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the board is 15 countries and leaving the country won't be able to withstand the sanctions. economically, it's going to be a disaster. socially, it's going to be a disaster. but we simply don't know yet what will happen in the share, and we're preparing for the alternative options. also on the day, russia is raising the age of compulsory military service. officials say recruits won't be sent to fight in ukraine, but many are afraid. that's exactly what awaits them. and you question, i mean it's the system ways. but at the moment that the russia is lacking, troops was navigated. they ways, it's too much, we can go, but some of these resources need to come from somewhere. uh, zip us for examples of min over the age of 27 shippable for you. well now they're the ones who have been chosen as victims a very warm
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welcome to the day you there is military leaders have arrested for more government ministers. that's according to the party of detained presidents mohammed bus boom. and those arrested and the ministers for oil and mining. as also ahead of the parties executive committee. the who has a queue is new jersey them or colonial power, france of wanting a military intervention to reinstate president presume who's been held by cool leaders since last week on sundays supporters of the qu storm, the french embassy and the capital in the on may the french government says it recognizes pursue, as these, there's only legitimate liter, the in pursuit of its policy of finding ways and means to intervene militarily in the chair of the friends with the complicity of certain new jerry and i held a meeting at the headquarters of the new jeron national guard to obtain the necessary political and military authorizations. this thus mister moss,
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so do has to meet for acting as a prime minister, signed the following documents up to the use. my must so do has to me the minister of foreign affairs and cooperation in an interim prime minister, authorize the french partner to carry out strikes within the presidential palace in order to free the president of the republic of new share mohammed by zoom. who has been taken hostage to us as west african nations, announced travel and economic sanctions against those air and threaten to use force if the crew leaders fail to reinstate president posing within a week. the echo was a group of states suspended all commercial and financial transactions with new share, as well as freezing assets. that is worrying news for many people in the share. imagine by say to myself that in these areas are already going to have to type in their belts by people going to need to don't come. and so now what's going to
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happen is that people are also imposing a blockade on us because they're closing their borders and they're putting it guides in is in the case of new cher, it's true that these sanctions are very heavy. and i think we're really going to suffer economically. it's going to be a very difficult time for the country that's over a month and one of my 30 percent. that's bringing our correspondent, i'm a quite a, she's monitoring developments in the share from lake coast and neighboring nigeria . we're coming up toward a week since best to have the cool leaders now stabilize their grip on power. i think they'll be very ambitious to see at this point that they've been able to stabilize power. really what we see on what we can say we are seeing is yes, there is some subtle strategic engagement, a spot where she, if there is the end of the conversation in terms of mediation, we see, you know, the president of child interest. that'd be himself going that they, a spoken to of my child is also the eclipse as
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a read out of me share. i also met with, you know, the deposed president by soon of course it is too early in the day to see that that the have already these 50 nights the either the country or the haven't people. 7 so to see the have a long way to go, like you did, you know, you had from the reports that they have. it's really not, it's a long walk. it's really going to be a long walk, right? that's a freedom because of the needs to be engagements you want to put together on what to do one, how did they want to move the country forward? it is really too early to see that they have both the goodies i was reading. in the meantime, we heard their residents were expressing their concerns about looming sanctions hitting the share. can you give us a sense of the country's dependence on foreign aid and, and what this will mean for people? i mean, leisure us, we do not unfortunately is one of the porous countries of the world, but of the continents. but all the world and, you know, normally they receive $2000000000.00, you know, of funds from an award. so, um,
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what the bank provide that, you know, as development and developmental assistance and then all of the sudden the being cut off, that's going to put them in really the situation apart from define the finances that it gets also, you know, it's also new services security plotneau us response as well as being a security fund. i mean, that's both from and the us for instance, i will be with, yeah, be, this is your read from where the 5, you know, is lovely insurgency. that means that they have to bring in with the technical know how to bring your mom, how the bring in expertise in either into the country. all of these now have so we know also that the use the music company i've increased the security access to the the move forward. so indeed the concerns of the people that we had. it's really, really legit because they have tough ideas. i had a little copay of evil i had depending on how long it gets them to get this wides. so even when it makes sense,
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when i throw my name was appealing to the technical part of the national. but this is indeed what it was with very to because indeed they have a long we do, we need the support. how would they be able to do this all by themselves? roommates? the crucial question. absolutely. well, thank you so much for joining us to break that down. that's the database corresponded am i co call you back. so i was so as we've heard these crisis in these areas, also on the agenda in europe and here in berlin. germany says it has suspended financial aid and warrants it could take further measures. germany has about a 100 troops stationed in new jersey to help train local forces. here's the german defense minister speaking today. the. those are responsible for the crews say they will abide by all the international arrangements and agreements that remains to be seen. one definitely gets to put some time that we are in contact with our counterparts in new jersey through various channels. that means there are talks, there is contact. so for some context on this led to bringing of placing the head
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of this a health program at the corner of an hour foundation, which is associated with the germany's conservative opposition cd you. he's joining us today from the molly and capital. i'm a co thank you so much for taking the time. i wanna start by asking you why news air has been so important for europe and for the west. i mean, it's not just, it's the most important security popping up for the west. it's also, especially for europe. it's extremely important because it goes to mike rentro domain, mike rental from south side, and i forgot to leave behind in the mid cherry and code. so it's a very poor country, but it's so teach it gets the only security partner and it's basically just stop gap for europe to avoid, to more over, to drifting migration reaching your yeah, i'd like to talk to you more about that. as you've said, measures been an important friends at point for people who are fleeing violence to try and make it to europe. how do you think that the political instability in these
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air is going to affect migration rates or? yeah, i mean, i'm short lived. the big question is now was a new uh, road us was that might be even on as a previous agreement for the european union to basically i will see zeroed from, i got this town and all of them the job to the jail that basically. ready know really low of migration levels since 2015 and that's not clear of what's going to happen. indeed, the issue is then if nausea, mommy's busy, your offices busy playing politics, you know, fighting for how long the cafeteria they will have less resources. you know, actually battling g a disorder, it will be more instability and properly then this is going to be extracted by human traffic tests. okay, so security and migration at top of mines in europe, france will also presumably be concerned about it's access to uranium. since we known these areas a crucial supplier, now the mining minister of the elected governments has been arrested all our mining
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activities continuing their it according to my information guess. i mean, it's, uh, i mean, everybody's now concerned a bit, you know, the part is closed, but otherwise it appears to be, you know, the businesses usually for the time being. of course, we don't know what position that the next couple of months will take concerning mining concessions. you're looking a little more broadly. what do you think germany and other european states are going to do here on the one hand, they need allies in the region for many of the reasons we've discussed. but do you think that they would work with a military junta? i think david has no choice, mean dad, they're running really fast. out of options 1st, molly went into the hands of the military, done booking of fossil you need. uh no need. yeah. i mean, if they, if they come to, you know, to, to difficult or, you know, refuse dealing with military or government say they might as well stay in europe. so they would have no choice because the baby crucial for,
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for europeans to. ready will keep migration those shows the road soon. the jo concept it's now the top is subject and many in new york in countries and you know, posting right extra ms potty so now is that trying to you know, get to purchase to step down. just probably won't work, but eventually i think them to come together and, and also walk again with with needs or even mondays ever ready to continue working busy manager government. they opted for our shop. i suppose not to europeans who end at the corporation. is molly? yeah, space me more about that. do you see in this case and nice in new share russian involvement in any way or how to what degree do you think that this military junta is going to seek alliances there? or i'm, i'm bit skeptical because, and i just has, has traditionally have very strong relationship with the western countries. phones . that's not even the russian embassy. we've seen it pick up in this information
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spread from, you know, russia link channels. so just to post sticker that pushes the bit, but i'm skeptical the new dealer, the new rude us will make it to either of us bach now. because the russian never does anything for, for easy, always want to get paid. and you know, my job doesn't have service sources to, you know, i am a scenarios and i, i'm not so sure to rush, i would try to talk about, you know, relationships and stuff. but i think in reality. ready not much just going to happen. and we have seen um, footage of these large raleigh's of people who are supporting the qu, beaters. is it clear at this point? how much public opinion, how much public support rather, there is for the military when say here, it's really how to say, i mean i, i make the case of many new jersey and still, you know, you know, on save off as a one, but now keep the headstone, trouble. i trouble these protests with these. seen on the weekend. you know, russian flex, people shouting 14, these are young people,
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basic you money play to draw, you know, probably part of the pay for paper. just do you know, to, to stop things a bit like you've seen in other countries. so it's not a genuine and you know, the ration fall for the purchase on the as a and also know army unit has come to the risk, you'll buy them. so it seems to me to have to purchase that, going to stay in that least take, you know, to have support a fee to keep play as well. really my time. yeah. hey, you mentioned the role of this information here. can you tell us a little bit more about how that has played out in this particular situation? yeah, i mean that means that, you know, do you have these pro rush i chose for just focusing 1st on monday, getting defense on the out and making me no smarty, you an operation. i'm purple then focusing books. you know now most recently they're very active and nyja just to strain by zoom as an agent or friends of the west. and that odious military corporation was based on countries as failing just to make him look in his, in the eyes of his population,
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us astray. to go and we even know why the cause unfolding last week there was a huge pick up, you know, all sorts of claims that both of them already had to resign and stuff so that they're really trying know, to make most of it just, you know, to mobilize opinion and these yeah, on the ground is probably not much to it, but you know, many, many people decided for lack of, you know, credit with media release, thoughts h, read on lots of groups. well, thank you so much for your insights. i'm joining us here that is of the same from the content at an hour foundation. so, the russians, wagner group has played a key role in the war and ukraine, winning several bottles. and last month launching a short lived and mutiny against russia's military leadership. now in a voice message posted on telegram it's liter, you have continue in africa and belarus. as i'm wagner fighters relocated to bella
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rouge after their failed rebellion raising concerns among no neighbors. moscow, meanwhile, has remained a tight lift about the impact of the wars having on its troops. but a new law in russia could provide some insight into one of its closest held secrets last week. russia's parliament degree to raise the age limit for military conscription from 27 to 30 years of age. that's after president food and already announced the mobilization of $300000.00 troops. last september. moscow hasn't revealed the number of troops deployed against ukraine, but earlier this year, ukrainian military intelligence claims the figures fitted around 280000. the british defense minister has said 97 percent, the russian army is in ukraine. most guys publicly acknowledge the death of only 6000 soldiers, but independent russian media outlets working with germany's tubing and the university put that number at close to 50000. there was no independent information
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on the number of people who deserted the russian army, but human rights groups say, there are more than 1000 court cases against alleged russian disorders. some rights groups say that figure is even higher. so, recent moves by the government indicate russia, needs even more troops along with the law aimed at raising the maximum conscription age. it will also be harder for people who are drafted to leave the country. the gremlins official reason. russia needs better defenses. russia needs more experienced meaning holders soldiers, at least that's how it's parliament justified raising the minimum and maximum recruitment ages for the army. until now, then between 18 and 27 were enlisted in the future. they say literally centers in between country want to move this old one called upon military service. usually that was the plan a month ago. but the final law,
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the past only raise the upper limit. the minimum age will remain 18 years. the parliamentary defense chief called the necessary steps to create a better force we considered all the advantages and disadvantages and came to the decision that it's better this way. we always need to well prepared to move by mobilization, was of critics reading between the lines st. moscow needs more soldiers and in a hurry to question them in the system with at the moment that the russia is lacking troops, not because it's too much, we can go, but some of these resources need to come from somewhere. uh, zip us for examples of men over the age of 27 shippable for you. well now they're the ones who have been chosen as victims. i should've distributed to the if i need to practice the shipment. the new law means russia's army could grow by an estimated 2000000 officials say the recruits will not be sent to fight and ukraine,
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but many are afraid. that's exactly the fate that awaits them. as reinforcements for the front line, the kremlin hasn't commented on the new law, referring questions to the defense ministry instead. but some parliamentarians are clearer. they even refer to the fighting and ukraine as a war and not a special military operation. it but this law was written for genuine mobilization and large scale as well for you. it already smells like large scale. it will have, i knew it was about market with the war which writes, organizations say more and more russian men are trying to escape should pieces should deal over. there are more than a 1000 cases against disorders. since mobilization began much element below the at the same time them, but it's clear that by no means are they all being investigated. i would look at them instead. for one thing model, it's very costly. and also,
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the whole mobilization mechanism is running quite badly and the blow was in reality, the number of disorders is much higher. yes, good. good. how's it going? now even more men of recruitment age are likely to try to get out of russia as soon as they can. because once they've received their conscription order, they're required to stay in the country. since those orders are now sent out digitally, there's no escaping them anymore. and i am delighted to welcome catherine bolton, a veteran journalist, specializing in russia now at the washington post. thank you so much for taking the time to speak with us. why do you think russia is raising the age of compulsory service? i think it's clear that i know that there's this intensified fighting in ukraine. know that ukraine is launch the counter offensive. they really are in need of mine power. and that's thing. we really get the sense now the pressure is digging into
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long coal. you had to just there in that segment, the head of the doom is defense or committee the how does this problem actually defense committee? i'm very caught up all of say this smells now like of log scale move. this is preparation for mobilization and it really looks like they, they need more man power. and yes, by increasing the, the conscription h to 30 by 3 years. then they stand to be able to increase the recruitment pool by hundreds of thousands. and as you said by potentially up to 2000000 met. so just to be clear, it is to boost fighting forces. and ukraine has some fear um, rather than bringing more experience soldiers into the force as the kremlin claims that is doing as well. i mean, it's kind of a 2 pronged policy because they've also increased the age for reserves for offices, those with military experience already. they can now be forced to go off to you. great, right up to the age of 55 or 60 for the most senior offices. and this really speaks
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to does of stuff. and it really seems pretty clear that russia wouldn't even be considering this move to increase the could scription age. and this is a $230.00, and this is the age of 4 for which kind of a young russians have to do a yes. compulsory military service. yes, russian says officially best they won't be sent to the front. but it's clear that not doing this fluids no reason they need to prepare land for the front. and there's a real fee that this will be the ultimate a. what does that tell us about the wider state of russia's war against ukraine is man power. the biggest weak point here, you know, they've kept a very tight click on the casualty rate. the official numbers that the defense ministry put up, put the number of dead only at 6000. as your report pointed out,
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independent media outlets who put that figure at somewhere near the 50000. you know, it's, it's very difficult to know because they've been keeping such a tight guard on the sick as the independent media outlets based on the calculations on kind of, you know, official funeral rates and so on. so it's, it's really difficult to, to guess, you know, but, i mean, but the fact is, the russian still has a lot more man power then ukraine, cuz just because the population is, is many times larger. so unfortunately, they couldn't keep going for one. and when you're trying to get a handle on the numbers, trying to get the most reliable information possible out of russia, where are you looking to find that? i just, you know, it's, it's, it's difficult. i mean, i think in this case, we have to rely on the biggest, put out by these very well regarded, independent media outlets for this one, cause medusa and obviously they conducted their research in a concert with
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a tubing in universities. so i think these, these figures have pretty reliable, they've been working hard to really get a look at this. yeah, i also wanna ask with the increased chance that men are going to be forced to fight . and now also more recently seen grown attacks on russian soil. do you think that these factors will come together to produce any kind of see change among public attitudes toward the war on ukraine? as you know, already we've seen kind of a public opinion and russia are shifting to woods gonna hoops for piece talks. we've seen in recent opinion, polls that move in 50 percent of russians would like that to be peace negotiations . of course of the war plays well with a very vocal minority, but in fact most of the population by now pretty unhappy with, with things are going. but that doesn't unfortunately translate into any protest.
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when you face jo, sentences, it's up to 15 use to cooling the will in essence. so you know it's, it's very difficult for anyone to protest against this. and so far the mobilization has concentrated on rushes falkland regions where men have very little uh, breaks and the families have very different rights to and it's very easy for the kremlin to keep the lid and then use and the number of tests in those regions. but as the walgreens on, it will have to go to the biggest cities and we already see just by the fact that it's having to increase the conscript age, they do need more man power, which means going to touch the cities at some point. and this is going to, can be quite a sensitive movement of an already we, we had talked about this general mobilization. it's going to be, you know,
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last time when a pretend launch is partial mobilization by september. after having promised at the beginning of the invasion, if you've crates that there would be no mobilization actual that it would only be a professional omi that was sent in me. so then 700000 estimates, 700000 sleeve the country. and now russian is crammed down on this last minute you receive the conscription papers. you're not going to be allowed to the country finds, have gone up for avoiding the draft. 10 fold. it will close each $300.00 office or more and you will so would be able to get a mortgage and the bank loans where we could see the increase. notice it's katherine, i'm so sorry to cut you off there. we're out of time. this has been fascinating. though we really appreciate you joining us on today to share your insight. thanks so much. thanks for having me. and that is your to our time. thank you so much for watching today. the
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