countries will discuss the merits of the 4 days, which is the state of the business of watts in but then welcome to the program. and we begin with the economic implications of the ministry who in new york and nations office having to evacuate the citizens from the west african nation after military leaders. you've worked closely with russia's voc in a mess and recruit seized power is just new to could shift its allegiance as the way from its former colonial power of france. as towards moscow is a key supply of the uranium needed by your new to house most to discuss what's at stake in these. yeah, let's speak to alex vines, who is director of the advocate program at chatham house. thanks a lot for joining us. just to understand this a little bit better. so how interested is russia in each? as natural resources. the russian federation is a mining country. and so wherever there is mining assets that they will go,

go to and looking at them, they offer example a, the company resolved as a major producer of both sides a mine and mining books. i didn't get any. and so a country like media that represents the 7th largest producer uranium in the well, is some way that russia would pick the rest. it couldn't be interested in unhealthy fish brushes. involvement already that given the wagner groups presence anisha or actually i'm not sure the group is present in these. yeah, it's very present in the to the north and libya and it's very active in money. it's trying to get market entrance to get into booking a fast low and the middle tree jumped to leader. and booking i've also was very visible at the russia africa summit and since petersburg last week, including also being of the annual navy day celebration in st. petersburg on sunday,

so the russians are worrying him. we're seeing some russian flags being floating around amongst demonstrators in uh, in uh, in these. yeah. but, but russia itself is robustly condemned. the cool in news. yeah. they supported the un security council resolution then from minnesota and lever off has condemned the crew twice, saying that the constitutional role should be rich. that having said that, the, the, the head of the private military group, mr. pre shogun, had a set the crew in new jersey is or is, is a great step forward and he's been offering his services to the jump to in yami. how much can we separate those 2 groups, the russian government and wagner? cuz if they're saying different things, it's a little confusing, isn't it? because we know that one of them does kind of rely on the other. so i'm confused on this. i was less confused on to the events of wagner

moving on to moscow. and since then, so what happened in, in, in, in june has, has been very confusing. um, it could be the, actually, the kremlin doesn't welcome military coast because they may have felt preston by wagner potentially strikes of stage one. i mean, we just don't know. so it's all very confusing, including the missed the pre show going was on the fringes of the russia, africa, somewhere in saint petersburg. we've seen folks as of a meeting people and he's still active, although he's meant to be in belarus. he's clearly in the russian federation. of the moment, so it's confusing, it's not clear. and they, but let's say we can get some clarity as time goes on how these volumes from chatham house. thank you so much for bringing is your insights nevertheless. thank you very much. i. so now it could be the next major revolution in the workplace in

the wake of the correction of ours pandemic work is, are increasingly saying that they want a 4 day working week we're try was taking place in europe and countries like portugal. the idea is gaining momentum among employers to so launch corvette ro only where is this protective all the rules 4 times a week? that's because our employer is participating in a 4 day work week pilot projects. so lounge works less than the lab, but earns as much as she would working 5 days. because we have some seeds easy. on the one hand, the pressure increases as we work with fewer people because someone is always opposite much of him. but we also know that we have an extra day off, and the rest is sweet and combust to respond to the pressure. it's easy to ask, so the prospect of more leisure time appears to be motivating. that is the assumption of some 40 companies participating in the pilot project. and they are basing this on experiences from other european countries. the project is being

monitored by researchers. these improvements for employees have to do with any improvements in mental health and also work life balance. and there are many indicators at those levels. what we also see is that for companies there tends to be savings and the savings overcome the costs. the savings have to do with the reduction in intermediaries costs, specifically associated with the risk decrease in absenteeism right. the 4 day work week trial mainly involves firms from the industrial instead of this sectors. it allows fortune goes socialist government to fulfill an election promise that has also prompted a public debate about the countries competitive and this a new temporary split. it is important that we create attractive working conditions at a time when we are trying to attract the skilled workers company to do that on the road. this happened also about the change isn't just about getting rid of one day. it's also radically reorganizing procedures because the daily number of working

hours is still the same because it also slice us when we will have fewer meetings because people should be able to concentrate better on the work and not be constantly interrupted. that's how we want to save time. we're looking at all the firms now have until the end of the year to test whether the 4 day week is effective or the president of germany's effort instituted for economic affairs has spoken out against the 4 day week. timmons 1st joins me now. thanks a lot for being with us. so this idea appears to be gaining support as well and you among them. i think that we already have a situation where people can work 2 days, 3 days, 4 days, 5 days a week. i think there is no need for a general regulation on top of that. we are living in times where increasing the companies and public administrations have difficulty finding people. so if we

encourage people to walk even less, we will have problems. for instance, if we think about hospitals, they already have problems, finding enough nurses and employees generally. this would be made worse by a full day week. this isn't the idea that this would actually make jobs more attractive if people can work just 4 days instead of 5 for the same amount of pay. yes, i mean, today people can work for days. it's just not the same amount of pay. if we get paid less, we a yes, i mean if we leave the give a give the pay of a 5 day week of for the holiday week. that's an increase in all the wages of 25 percent. the question is, who will pay for that? the productivity may increase a little, but certainly not by 25 percent. so the question is, who would have come out? the cost? it's that that's not easy. and still, even if people do find a full day week attractive, i don't think uh, the,

the amount of people are willing to walk will increase by it enough to compensate for the loss of the one days. so i think there's no way to transfer suggested the child so that, that happened into this and it happened some child. so just been hearing about the trying to push close controlled in the u. k. of it in the us as well. and they found the dean of the companies taking part of that have really found this to be a positive thing. and i've a 90 percent of them. in the case of the, the case study said that they've gotta keep up the full day week and that they didn't see that drop in productivity. i think it's perfectly fine with individual companies do that. but it's certainly not something to be done with eyes if we think of, you know, services like the health service, the police, it's something necessary let people i'm around for some time and increasing the walk falls by enough to maintain those services. a 247 with just not be possible.

so. ready i don't think this can be generalized. the mean watching life is flexible on riley. so companies will think, yes, it's better to have people watching 4 days a week. that's fine, but it should be something that is regulated generally you've had is realize that it's, you know, moving against the fashion of the moment. this is something that is picking up, but many times why. why do you feel you need to speak out on this because we do, we don't always hear from you on the, on every issue i, i think it's important to explain really what the consequences of this are. i think for wage compensation is unrealistic and people what class a one implication is also because we finalize the pension system, perhaps the system on the basis of labor and come mostly we a lot of people walk less than unless they, well, it would also pay less tax and this will undermine the finances of the welfare state entirely. so working less at times where they are fewer and fewer people in

the workforce anyway simply doesn't work for a number of reasons. i think we need to encourage people to walk more in the end. it's an individual decision about. so what we need is rather encouragement for working more. we don't need to encourage people to walk less. i think that that's something that people will find quite a bleak idea that people should be pushed to work more people who are already exhausted and how do you yeah, go down to sliding people. that's a good question. you know, i'm not saying pushing people, i think a encouraging people. i'm giving incentives also. yes. i mean where they're a scarcity of was we need to pay them more about encouraging them to walk. last will simply make sure what to do isn't public's services less, and that's not the way to go. okay. clements 1st president of the 2nd statement, really interesting here and your point to be on this. thank you. and now in the u.

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