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with all the friends as african teams make history of the women's world cup by day ends in the diaspora. proud lead sharing. this comes on to fly all the way to the trophy, the i, i'm eddie mike, a junior and you welcome to the program. another democracy falls in west africa. these as presidents and, well, how many buses, whom have been a beacon of hope in a region wide by military takeovers and a piece for the washington post. he wrote that as quote it hostage as soon as on the flies, the power of the ballots books, the end of the cycle, of course, the one k, my jared season, both round to the 2021 presidential election. that was new jazz, fast piece for transitional. talk to his brittany, said socks. how about the social step down respect,
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and the constitutional to time limits on the presidency. but as soon as victory was in jeopardy given before, he took office for any gates, so just stays and attempted to just 2 days before his integration by the presidential, god intervenes. now the ministry says the reasons cool wasn't necessary due to insecurity. economic challenges and government corruption from the competition. yeah, i mean i spoke to ty, he will got caught the close political ally of president mohammed by zoom. and he strongly reject that. those claims try to compile a country to a, to the level of the country. like maggie and book it on 5. so you see the development of our country is do what as far as is a flight, it goes as far as in echo on the end of the sort and it's supposed to issue. so on this day as well. this cool is about
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a little moving that's less than say, is just a little vision of what a man who want to be president. that's 8 this, that, that this has nothing to lose our economic condition or disagree deal of this country. would you be prepared to work with the community this if the promise to restore democracy as to the vision? what was, what we need is what effect our people who elect the president every time we elected president, he got 5 years amended or 5 years left to him. this is mandy. so if he is not doing well, you know, it's our people to not give him, i don't know. i know that is, but if we have some issues, i don't know. did you,
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for example, i have never seen a government, a government who is not criticized by his own position, but this doesn't never that this does nearby lead to equity. that well, i will do that enough to be good. do you see any realistic chance of new jack returning to democracy based on what's going on so far? yes. yes, yes, i do because i really just saw. yeah. the model of the media to love this kind of to be like we do. so it's the point you. busy people might take about the classic us, oh oh, this of what is later on and try to live with it. and there is the prison made by
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them on the office in the office and we have more than 20 meal of us. you know? so we cannot follow one guy to his voice. i vision persona and put this country in deserts and it's, and it's people. okay, so he will galka and he just capital in the army. thanks for your time. thank you for having me. now these are, is the latest country in africa, so how to see its government about their own regional bodies liked economic community of west african states. echo us on the african union. a you face the challenge in task of trying to restore and strengthen democracy, that new jersey state is one of the few democracies in the western sahara appears to be going up in smoke. the african nation adds its name to
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a list of countries in the region that have witnessed who is in recent years. do need air joins neighboring molly, which so the military stage, a mutiny in 2020 in 2021. a 2nd crew took place there that same year guinea, untried, also witness their leaders being overthrown. in burkina faso, there were 2 codes in 2022. the instability caused in large part by militant islam is groups has caused a particular concern to democracies across the region. and especially to those in the block of countries that form part of the economic community of west african states or eco. wes encouraged by africa is most populated country nigeria eco west also serves as
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a peacekeeping force during times of political instability and during the rest member states send joint military forces to intervene. but the most poking tool in the eco last arsenal is its ability to suspend member states from its economic grouping. molly guinea, burkina, faso and denying the share of all being suspended following codes is new jersey on town has been given an ultimatum by ego as to richard is threatened to the possible use of force. there are fears that any military intervention in these here by equal was clicked to send into a full scale war in the region with molly and 14 or 5. so both warning they would defend their fellow qu, leaders. it does remove on the store and the effectiveness of an eco west force has been questioned by experts who say adequate funding is required. if it were to have a chance of succeeding. plus it could lead to
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a worsening of an already dire humanitarian crisis in the region from on the slats . bring in the companies that come myra. she's a former minister of foreign affairs in body and a senior advice off of africa, of the us institute of peace. hello, and welcome to the program either. now you are part of the democratically elected government in molly. how does it feel to see your country and its neighbors in the grip of military doing test? it is very distress needs to see an entire region such an important region to a politically important to the entire world fall into the hands of another treatment. as historically, specifically, malicious tech have never been able to deliver the basic public services that citizens demanded this region. and i'm talking about education and talking about health. i'm talking about economic progress. so it's really hard to see a bright future for us. such an important region where
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a use biology is currently at play, where youth is going to be playing a huge role in the future. are we going to have the right communication platform for now? are you going to have the right serve for them to flourish as adults, and then to meet questions that i'm asking myself today. so many uncertainties that now and we, since he has that been a number of quality task in the west african states of my lead as indeed able to not 5 so and now nisha is that no appetite for demo kasey. what really is driving the schools as i think we can uh, mistake those cause for a lot of appetite for democracy. these military crews are to be undertaken by a small number of military leaders who have personal motivations. sometimes to conduct those cues and are really playing on the general sentiments of the population against democratically elected
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president is to insert themselves in the political real. i don't think that this is a lot of appetite for democracy. i think it's about military rulers not being totally understanding of their roles as a guarantor, as of this, the ability of their, of their countries. and basically use the different properties to, to enter the, the political effort and take away power from uh, from, from their citizens. but you did talk about some of the sentiments of that, so let's talk about some of them. it is interesting to know that all these countries for my calling needs of friends. and that's been clear that you know, people tell people talking about having issues with friends, is there any connection that can be made that i honestly, i think it's the wrong,
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the wrong excuse. i think maybe democracy hasn't been explained correctly or hasn't been a cd long enough in our culture, but in any country and in any democratically elected uh regime. there are professions of populations. they're not always happy with what the government are doing. maybe there needs to be more in terms of communication towards citizen and letting them know that some of the progress that they're expecting do not happen overnight. lots of other regions this i how has become the frontline in the fights against many times as long as the groups what impacts cold, the recent spate of cruise, haha, and security in the region. i'm only going to be able to, to talk about about research about how this uh, did you have a red headed wall after for me, because i've taken power the g. heidi threats have actually worse and after each of
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these has not taken over. so he's not a guarantee that when you have military leaders at the head of a country, then they are able to defeat an entire service, right? i think one country it could be more keen that it could be here, cannot come to put in an to discharging thread. it's a huge undertaking that can only be done through both of lateralism and international coalition. okay, so let's talk about regional axis. in the case of these, a regional body echo as has threatened the use of military force to return the country to democracy, is not the best way to handle clues as well. um you have to look at the vehicle wise uh over the past 23 years and the window reacted to the different cruise evolving book, you know, and in the, in the eco, all has been criticized internationally for not be too assertive,
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i guess cruise and for setting the ground for further cruise from half the jeep to happen. and so what we're seeing now is really nigeria taking the lead within the eco box and saying no, this is a clue that has been your cruise beyond the pale. we're not gonna let that happen. and we're really making a strong statement against cuz so i will not go as far as to see if that vehicle was was effective. i'm dealing with cruise, but i am rather pleasantly surprised by how strong of a statement equal was made. in the case of this year. so if not through military intervention, is that a way of bringing these countries back to democracy? well, the medically positions is definitely one of them. um, but also also again, it's also
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a one big issue that i think is what have these countries to gain from, from democracy, from a democratically elected governments. i think we, we need and i, i'm putting myself into we, their applicants. we need to be very clear about what we're expecting from, from democracy in our countries. and we're, we need to be able to explain that to our citizens and only then it can be the brand democracy, you know, countries and bring it back. or are you somehow suggesting that african countries need to fall on a type of democracy that fits them? i've always believed that democracy as it is practiced in the west, is difficult to apply in west africa because of a culture because of history. we have completely different cultures,
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completely different histories. and so we have to develop our own type of democracy that would work in the current international um order. how would that look like if you've thought about it? i have no idea what that would look like, but it certainly we need a citizen to think about it. we have civil society in our countries that's fairly think about thought about, but i think it's a long term and the room and this piece of military coups in west africa is really a testament to that. okay, that quick one on this before you go. what needs to be done to prevent cruise from happening in the 1st place? i mean, that's the $1000000.00 question. there, there was, there was so much, i think, just listening to the initial declaration, a matrix can give you an idea of what the thing is going to appeal to citizens and
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international partners. it's security. they often mention local governance. the often mentioned corruption asked, what are the arguments for them over to a we a government and that's the justification enough for them to be there. so maybe we need to start there. okay. companies like a myra seeing advice, awful, africa, how the us institute of peace. thank you very much for your time. thank you. the full african countries set out to a stray out in new zealand where the dream of lifting the trophy and the fee for women's world cup was on the that of hope. and that would honest in the group stage . but africa has remaining representation in the tournament shines on. for the very 1st time, 3 african teams, i progressed to the knockout phase of the competition. that is, nigeria, set africa, and will roku will soon assess the chances and the overall performance and the
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competition before that. that's look at how the world cup has created the perfect. so fortunately people nigerians in the diaspora to connect with a woman's team. my julian support is in melbourne all saved during the women's world cup and the john split. steven vig community to reconnect. we don't usually have things like this where we are represented. we usually just support this trailer in different spots that they, they do, but kind of having it in such close proximity. it's definitely boosted a lot of people's feeling of connection to the lack of the root of the plates of general rice or seasoning c uh from the barbecue. the funds of these restaurant have found a new source of shed pride. it'll people, lucas look a little bit different way. now it's not about the e mail to me. it is about like the game and this is the question. so we just enjoy watching. so guy, so it doesn't matter. always way. the both men and women,
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we just don't know your team or you're not just support and it certainly doesn't hurt that the secret houses have been doing so well. that the to use power extends far beyond the boundaries of the pay off to watching this. i want my kids to play as well. i would love to see my kid doing something like this. and i think it's definitely boosted the community in being able to show pride and even other people having stuff like this. it's connected us a lot more and we've seen showing no signs of slowing down. that could be plenty more in store for my julia friends. this woke up now let's talk more football with juliet b y and award winning sports dental is covering the wealth cap. she joins us now from bridge bay and australia. hello julia. so as we just saw in the report, neither our friends are ex take and they have all the reasons to be don't day. absolutely, i think um they do. i mean,
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how has the jenny bean for nigeria obviously the most successful african team in the competition? and proving that by go into the knockout face as well. i think i'm going just like you mentioned going past the group stage or from annual cup is a dream full of many and only if you get to do do that. so it definitely must be. i'm a social 5 for these funds. like you mentioned, you can't blame them. my. this was also a team that, that after the pres group game is charles like it was going south. everyone wasn't really happy with there for 4 months old, although they do um again. so i'm kind of a and all the wishes and those are the front of these was going to lose them, but a different story would be told in the too much is that um, followed here in the um, brisbin and definitely the funds to save every bit of what is happening, the team looks very complex, they look very solid,
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very professional team and when you see them in treatment and as well, um they look very relax, you might want to think sometimes when you see them in training the asking as well . i do believe that that will come, but that is what it matches the big stage they show up and they make it come definitely made it counts, then that's south africa making histories by qualifying also to the knockout phase, does not come as a surprise as well. for me, most i to no matter how you look at the time they've been knocking, but this very door for some time now when it comes to limits for building off, because some countries always show up to the content and buying it and the buying on a one of those on a stage like best, they wouldn't want to be left out till the potty and became good when it monitored it is um a punch proven for them because prior to this stage you wouldn't have given them a chance. and it's also good to see how they tend the scripts in your favor. it's a huge winful, them the team and the country and everybody who is part of this um,
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historic victory for them by on up and up. we saw how nobody deluxe the 2nd game in that stage goal. but they have to get you a heads together in that the game defaults like worry us big collectively as a team and trust me to a very talented group and also spearheaded by does reality. who has been a junction for women's football, god knows, hold on for more than a decade. and she made sure that this team will get to the next stage of the competition against all. and then they have also talking about a team, making it against all odds is more real cool, making data to view how impressive was that it's, it's, it's safe to say, but at this point it is all to play for. and um, well, it may come again as a surprise to many for those who up um, followed this american team, this wouldn't come as
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a surprise to them. i told this is a very a team that they will structure team and very compact team as well. if i should put it, that has meant to be a way the way through this to what i meant and even i'm proud to the tournament. it's the foot of um, it will instruct it, sort of them back home that authorities have put in the wake and we saw a glimpse of what they did, the amend national team, said other comfortable cap and now the yeah, yeah. be the felt okay, if the men can do it, why not asked? and so as historic in every sense and become all the way, should they show the same level of our question, it will be stopped a moment, just a sense of p t should they make it past the next stage, that is the run of 6. then there will be that will be some story to terry's, to church for us and because they put in so much work. i'm in the last 10 years,
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they've been building the national teams across the board. so when you mentioned were broken down. now clearly it comes down to good for boy, it comes down to infrastructure. it comes down to wells, structure teams will drop in teams. last until john's, when it comes to the government and the government side. so i think um, they've done great their 1st game. i was um, and it's also affordable because i feel that they've worked with all the way to the top. and then this happened, but they didn't lose hope the i had to wins out of to, i mean, i hope that you have too many why i'm sick, i'm in the world, trust me. and they've done amazing, amazing this even beyond amazing. at this point, i would, i agree with that. unfortunately, somebody at the out of a competition also making data do and the walk about what can we take from the performance as well kind time regret of liter. um, but they did put in the best um, it just wasn't enough. and i think it came
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a bit too late with the interest that they had to do a 1st choice. bulky by and also i'm grace turned that as well. who was a new engine in the mitchell for them. but one of the most certainly important aspects of these tournaments, especially for the day be tons, is how you get to experience what it start to play at this level and take home. what you can also try to come back. that's also um the, you know more from lessons from this tournament for them. um, but they can learn from and i'm confident that they should get you physical and that will put unity. um, so they will do better. i do make accounts, we saw barbara bundle going up 1000 um cousins um go and which was also a rough quote for them in some way. get them um like a punch in victory for them as well. so i think um, when they get opportunity to again, they will come good, anybody's walk up quickly on this before i let you go, julie, that's what's remaining africans side has what it takes to live that trophy, you got to choose why and do that. well it's going to be, it's going to be so very,
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very, very, very, it's very safe to say. but at this point, like i said it all to plan for. i would rather enjoy the football and hope that at least one that's there. and there's a, bring it in, um for this dream that will be me just call. but i'm, if us talk either stay just top. but if you're going though with it the very the right mentality is you're going there to 4 to 5 for your country. and what does that take? because a big state and to months a lot. and that is what we see in the large. so from super far codes, we're seeing a bit of glimpses from i'm band and band as well. so why not do you have to continue to dream? you never know what might come up. okay, so any time without available spots down, as thank you very much. thank you too. bye so and that's it for now from all the starry sco dw comes west africa. well, visit us on facebook and twitter. we leave you with more pictures from the women's
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