the the when military leaders in this year staged a crew 2 weeks ago, the response from west african leaders was clear force could be met with more force . well, that hasn't happened yet. today, west african leaders met and decided there will be no clemency for this cou, a standby force is being deployed ready to intervene in this year. and tonight, there are real fears that this could escalate into a real war. i'm bri golf and berlin. this is the day the day we've got to look for just a 5 determine is part of diplomatic efforts made by echo us in resolving the crisis

. hop in dc. i'm clearly pallets by the military leadership. it is shared that we've pro, tries diplomatic negotiations and download as the bedrock of our approach porter, the deployment of the echo us, stand by force to restore constitution of order in the republic of news. it also coming up the computer chips, taiwan, and tensions between beijing and washington. why the us is moving to keep new high tech out of china is reach for the very highest. and often sidney comes out. the chips tell them produces about 90 percent of the total international output. so think about the destruction of the supply chain on to our viewers watching on cbs in the united states into all of you around the world. welcome. we begin today with the possibility of war in his ear still very

much on the table. today, leaders from west africa agreed to deploy a stand by fours that could be ordered to restore democracy in the chair. if the country's military leaders do not, it's been 2 weeks since the military stage. dakota there, yesterday, the general's appointed, the new government showing no signs of backing down. it is seen as yet another act of defiance against open and veiled threats being made by west african leaders. well, where is all of this headed couldn't this year and it's neighbors be on a collision course headed for more. we stand for can lead is arrived in a boucher to move. the next move image and mason came often easiest one to ignore the ultimatum to stand down from the power grab principles. the group sees all diplomatic efforts to result the crisis have been rejected by the military leaders . now they're ramping up the pressure to restore democracy. issuing this directive,

direct the committee of the chief of defense stuff to activate the equity done by force with all its elements immediately order the deployment of the equity fund by force to restore constitutional order in the republic of new shit. but it's still isn't clear, won't that will look like for the standby force, likely to take weeks if not longer, to assemble the block. and so reiterated its commitment to finding a peaceful resolution earlier the one to talk to a national tv to announce a new government with me, she is deposed president mohammed by zone still on the house, erased, concerns of growing about his well being. we're aware, a recent reports that president obama resume of new share in his family are living without electricity, water, food, or medicine. and i can see the following,

or the secretary general is very concerned over the deplorable living conditions that president presume and his family are reported to be living under as they continue to be arbitrarily detained by members of the presidential guard in new share. as the political did, law continues the people of media, a wary of what comes next. really after the who did the, our country really leaving the bug situation. why i see a bug situation? because do that, if you look everywhere, we can see everywhere there is lights up lights of lights up i think is going to be taught to use it 40 to shift on the policy instead of being not ministry and savvy . tough sanctions on media maintenance, struggling with rolling power caps and supply chain disruptions, creating food and susan tea for residents awaiting the next move in the countries future. enjoying now by commission kamara,

she is the former minister of foreign affairs in molly and his meal and senior adviser on africa and at the us institute for peace. this car, it's good to have you with this this evening. equal was his 1st reaction last week to this group. it was an ultimatum, and the threat of possible military intervention in this year. now the generals in this year, they called equal watches bluff. today, eco was double down on this possible use of force against this year. are we just escalating here one level to the next, possibly headed for military conflict? we're definitely escalating. i think be a cool was really given a chance to give somebody negotiations over the past 2 weeks. the crew took place 2 weeks ago. that's 14 days of president presume being detained by the wind in very difficult situations. and just pretending that the april was, isn't there any uh, any longer. um they appointed

a gun and they close the air space and they're really a very defiant when it comes to to vehicle wise and vehicle wise orders. and now we're seeing heads of states of vehicle was coming out of a summit today. even more determine that they were last week or the week before showing their muscle. and really telling the whole time that they are giving them one more week to decide whether they want to emulate your intervention or they want to restore course additional order. well, let me just ask you right now, is it as it looks right now? and based on what you know, do you think if the content, if they don't back down, do you see this of this force that was ordered to point? did they, do you see them moving into, did you i think there are some legal considerations, operational and it kind of make as well when he comes to

a military intervention. however, what i'm seeing is that the vehicle was really playing. it's quite the ability. it has to show that as a regional organization, it exists for a reason and that it's threats or not empty threats to new boot presidency new. who of nigeria is also showing that nigeria is the new leader of vehicle, was that he wants to move forward. he's made early declarations, demonstrating that he was ready for a military intervention. both nigeria, the leader of the equal us and e bow us as a regional body, had their credibility on the line men. now it's really hard to say whether a military intervention is going to happen. it would be speculation at this point. but what we can say again is that vehicle was more determined than ever. let me ask a little bit about how we got here. um, you know, your country molly hasn't seen 3 codes in the span of

a decade and this year has seen 5 since gaining independence, military leaders in west africa. they don't respect election results all the time. and did they do so with impunity? and of the case of new jerry right now, we've quite a bit of public support. you were part of a democratically elected government. it must pain. you to see what is happening. why is democracy apparently so disposable in west africa, as i've said, actually on, on an air earlier that i am doubtful that democracy as it is being practiced in the west actually works for african countries. um, i believe that we really need to take a look at what citizens really want and sometimes so those presidents who are democratically elected are elected. i'm very proud you pounds. we're not

a majority of the population actually voted for them. and the way they conduct business is not considered satisfactory to the majority of citizens, and this is what we're seeing in, in west africa, and in this a hell in, in particular. so what i personally feel or believe when it comes to democracy, really matters here. i think we really have to africans to look at what democracy brings it to, to the continent, but really to also demonstrate that democracy can deliver and will deliver in, in our different context. so, you know, i think we were talking about, you know, the publics have to see the value of democracy. but also these, these military generals have to recognize the value of democracy. if they don't, they're going to continue to stage these cruise. i'm wondering who or what is going to show these generals,

that they're hurting themselves in their futures by, you know, just throwing out election results all the time as well. one way would be for the equal was to really demonstrate is authority. i think a male in the military um and as we see whether in africa or anywhere else, functions better when there is a strong symbol, you know, authority in place and where the trees actually supports and that to the civilian authority. this civilian authority, military relationship, has completely broken down in, in, in this a hell. and so what we need to do is really restore the trust between civilian authorities and the military leaders. and this could take these years on to was quick to accuse france of taking advantage of the crew to violate this year's sovereignty. these years colonial passed with france,

it seems to be low hanging fruit for the generals. is france though, is it responsible for, for the generals behavior and for what has happened in this year in the last few weeks? i think france is an easy culprits. i think, well seen in this, a house in general is a rejection of the french, a policy in africa where friends is being to present and to the point where it gets involved in domestic affairs. and so it was easy for the generals to mention friends. a friend has been mentioned as a carpet in, in the previous cruise in, in need year in the book. you know, how so? and in molly, like you said, it's a very low hanging fluids and hard to, you know, take this activation seriously. the causes of this crew are inherently domestic and the reasons for the crew are very personal to general chinese. how

concerned are you that all of west africa could become a nest, if you will, for is a mistake stream in some isis, boca hawaii outside. i mean, they're all invested in a few, in a future with crews in failed states in the region. that is really the worst case scenario and i really don't want to believe in that. in that scenario, i think that what we're seeing with the vehicle was doubling down on sanctions and giving an ultimatum to the coordinators in, in the share is really to show that they are tired of cruising, that they really want to put an end to them. so i want to believe that the echo wise and the african union will work together to put an end to this uh, speed of cruise, whether they're successful or not. we'll also depend on how strong the institutions

are being rebuilt in this a hell region. and this cannot be done without international support, so rhetorical and announcements and communiques and um, astonishment about what is happening in this whole region will not do it. i think what is happening. the reason needs international support and international coalition to really save the region, be asking you are with the us institute for peace. does the us have a role in these years future? i know it's invested money. it's invested in women and it's using these here as a base for counterterrorism. but again, you have this element of hyper or more militarization within these are yes, i think new jersey is really a strategic country for both friends in the united states. when he comes to the

role of the west indies, the hell in general, i think the west has a lot to bring to the region, especially given the failed a french policy in the region. the west doesn't have the legacy that france has in this a health region. and on top of that, the width is really perceived as if every respected partner. so it would, it would be a very positive way forward or move forward for the west to be fully invested in this a health, especially because coastal west african countries are a priority in the united states global fragility act, it would make sense for us to also invest in this a how to prevent the issues of this a health from trickling down to the close to west african states. foreign minister of foreign affairs and molly visit tomorrow. we appreciate you taking the time to talk with us tonight is valuable context and analysis at

a very important time. thank you. i to thank you for having us president joe biden has issued an executive order banning us investment in chinese quantum computing advanced chips and artificial intelligence technology is all in the name of protecting american national security. the band, which will take effect next year, require companies to inform washington of any activities in these 3 areas. the us as intensifying efforts to put as much distance as possible between china and the american technology facing says that it's gravely concerned with the biden's administered by the ministrations decision which comes as china faces declining trade and deflation. when this comes, as the u. s. is moving to reduce its exposure to supply chain disruptions, especially in the manufacturing of semiconductors. president biden spoke of the progress that's been made and an event in albuquerque,

new mexico. american van is these chips we invented, we went to the mood, i wish we made them work better. we made them more sophisticated rubber time we went from producing nearly 40 percent of those chips. the world shifts down to 10 percent. that's why designated as sign, and i insisted that it'd be written and passed the chips and science act exactly almost one year ago today. very short. wow. all over the country, semi conducted companies are investing the record billions of dollars. by the way, you know how much they've been committed in this chips in science act. them invested in america, $230000000000.00. $230000000000.00. all right, let's get a closer look now it's to my conductors and geo politics. i want to bring in chris miller. chris is the author of ship moore, the fight for the world's most critical technology,

which looks at decades and struggle to control micro chip technology is good to have you on the program. chris, let's start with us. efforts to boost its position as a semiconductor manufacturer. how pleased with himself should president boynton beach and not right now, just one year has passed since congress put border on $50000000000.00 to fund the chips that join us government is in the process right now of delivering grants to different companies to build new chit making facilities united states and although no grass has been dispersed, step is already a huge increase in somebody conductor investment in the us. far more right now that i've seen for really the past decade. so in that sense, the chip tact is already showing that's gonna have a real impact on the west is also trying to divert investment away from china seeking to prevent joining from gaining access to sensitive technologies. i mean,

are these strategies are, are they, are they working, are they going to work? as i can see us is in a number of different ways trying to limit china's advances in sensitive technology is that could have defense or intelligence verifications. and the latest restrictions that limit investment in startups that are investigating quantum computing or at the vast artificial intelligence are intended to drive a wedge between the venture capital industry in the us and chinese startups. and what you find, if you look into the chinese startup ecosystem, is that many of china's most important tax firms were actually funded. partly with us that your capital money in the us trying to sell support to this and slow train is progress. and if you're like, why don't you just how effective it has? china is plans to establish itself as a major semiconductor manufacturing. but how successful have those plans been believed in next? trying to support billions and billions of dollars into

a ship industry over the last decade. are roughly equivalent each year to the entire spending in the us chips act over the next 5 years. and this huge spending has led to some progress in certain parts of the industry. but aggregate china still remains far behind. it's on demand to be dependent on us in europe and on japan for many different types of somebody, conductor technology. and that's why china is vulnerable. these types of technology goals that does that feed into perhaps the cliche or the stereotype of china. the china is a place where they make things, but not necessarily innovate. well, i, i think that's, that's partly true and the ship industry, although i wouldn't necessarily under rates, china is innovation capacity. i would just say that in somebody conductors, it's really, really hard. that part of things to be as intact controls the us has a technological edge over china. but is the us military isn't making the best the

use of technological advances? what did you say as well, this really is, i think the key question, the us strategy behind the technology controls is to build an advantage in the best technology and then be able to the point that advantage to us military rather than to the chinese military. but what increasingly find is that military's around the world are relying more and more commercial technology, not for advance. just to see this in the rush, ukraine war every day. and so the us military is struggling to find more ways to implement cutting edge commercial technology into defense systems that it's fascinating. and we know that the united states is committed to the security of taiwan. how central is the taiwanese chip industry to the united states in the both of western economies was central to the entire world that the us,

japan, europe, has a really irreplaceable capabilities when it comes to the tools and the software used to make chips. but when it comes to the actual manufacturing, 90 percent of the war. ready most of as processor chips type of chips and your smartphone and computer are manufactured in taiwan by just a single company to the entire world. manufacturing sector is dependent on ships made in taiwan. and i, if i'm, if i'm not mistaken, it recently. someone tweeted that if taiwan were to be invaded by china because of, of this dependence on taiwan for chips. we would be looking at starting markets around the world collapsing and the beginning of a global depression. is that true? and i think that's not an exaggeration. the entire world, the auto industry, the medical devices industry, certainly the smartphone and the computer industry. everyone is dependent on ships made in taiwan. is a country that is small in population,

but it can't be underestimated in terms of its economic and technological importance, which is why maintaining peace and the taiwan straits is critical. not just for one sake, but for the entire world economy. yeah, maintaining pieces are the same time the wes wants to maintain this, this tough approach with china. i'm wondering, is it tough enough? i mean, is the risking going to keep china in check? well, i think we've seen western policy makers embrace phrases like the risk in because they sound low cost. they don't sound interested. but in reality, companies are bearing for more bifurcation in the chinese fear in the non chinese here across the top sector across the electronics industry. almost every company is already taking cost of the steps to divide their business. and these 2 different ecosystems in preparation for more, the coupling to go. what is bifurcation? is that a sending them for the coupling buildings?

in some ways it is, i don't think anyone should expect a complete the coupling and certainly we're miles away from a position where the 2 hobbies are separate. but the direction of travel is certainly in that direction. companies are trying to make themselves less reliant on manufacturing and china. now today, before we let you go in your book, you look at the old ship race between the us of the soviet union is most killed out of the game. now i mean that they need high tech for precision guided weapons and they still seem to be able to keep manufacturing them despite sanctions as well. the russians really are far behind their miles behind even where china is today the, the way they fire it asked acknowledge it today is by stealing after smuggling it in that if you take a part russian weapons, just got many examples of this now from the battlefields in ukraine, you'll find that they're full of smuggled. western jeff is softer in micro

electronics. it's nothing russian makes home. these are all devices that russia so we some of those in the country. chris miller. good. have you on the show tonight? fascinating discussion. we appreciate you taking the time to talk with us. thank you. thank you. for germany has marked the 75th anniversary of the beginnings of its post war constitution. germany's president for an older strong buyer trouble by boat to the bavarian island. we're experts in bed in 1948 to draft a new order after world war 2. and one of the palace is built by mad king who big president, stine, by appraised in germany's democracy, built from the ruins of a dictatorship. and he said it was as important as ever today to protect that democracy from its ended on some 1000000000 error. richard branson's company, virgin galactic has watched its 1st white carry paying tours into space. spacecraft,

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