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didn't want to stripe us by handles mondays and fridays. my husband does wednesdays and thursdays tuesdays we have us to test so that we can both work late. so for somebody, the, the how much is sufficient for 5 to is to see stuff from. i moved out it's been and i've been working here since 2004. i'm a bishop and i've got to tell the nations, but also skills sort of putting this has been involved, has cut and present this my early thirty's with super stretched to involve them very so that because i thought i had to do it one step at a time then i realized i knows and your child there in years a to show for that. so you have to find a different way to combine things under the form, given the so convenience and don't have to disconnect and pull this up to the phone itself. it doesn't, doesn't live still the same process,

the distribution now between the high on children i want to korea and i can make it work. so mitch, my, my, i always knew i'd be a working mom working mom as a just to see my child in the career. i always knew i wanted to go and get me in line. i flushed and i'm kind of how i'm the diocese to you. so a woman is around sue, she'll so who's been running for leadership role always has that full back with the bosses think she might have kids and to disappear. and alice could springs based on my google, i became them of the late a thomas 40, the full that i did sometimes think think now is not a good time. just post dismissed the scripts. when we decided to tap a child, i was in the middle management side,

some image of a management i went on to the chief by at least as of lots of tim, i didn't get time to finish cutting, fly in the system. when i became pregnant dot, i 1st went to my boss, my direct supervisor fume to talk about how we wanted to proceed by some viva divided by java monday, as i hoped, he'd be happy for me. and that we'd be on the same page and for you to be specific . and also when i come back off to woodson, pick up where we left off for coming and also to somebody on the holidays and doing the bid. his reply was, when of course you'll be replies enough with that. and if with the home and has a baby have priorities shift and she might not want to continue in this role to knock on his medicine for that was isn't or,

and i was pretty shocked us in the list. and as my furniture kid, hello, my name is i was surprised by how my co sound has responded to the news. news. it wouldn't be really acute as though it's supposed to shun the soonest. the guy said sign them. and when i told them i was pregnant, they said to me, i have been most of the you trying to ruin us. it seems when you are finished, i'll sort of course as especially towards the end of my pregnancy when i have them big valley meetings sitting there and those management to meetings with a lot of men whom i was surprised to see helpful for some of the men will have some good guidance in my not a good time. click start off because i think it was like they thought, well, she'll go on leave and won't come back. i wasn't invited to meetings. even when they had to do with my work was my team have a tough and hot the

i just haven't gotten active from the start. i knew i wanted to stay in my job is vanities controlled by the into the my mind was kind of in society. me clicking via the questionnaire on the phone. how do we get from? i'm going to, i'm coming back that are in the and i to everyone from my c i o to the director of human resources to the head of the wood council. all living phones on, on the back of my suggestion was to interview and external inter manage in terms minutes to cost plus, i don't know, which is what we did and that's how we cover doesn't fit inside the home. the number 2 dies

that's happening. my mom's course, i also asked my husband, how do we want to handle it board and he's questionnaire a lot these as to how do you want to handle it? and having it on my face said it was up to me. i hope you said doctor blood stay at home for as long as you feel you need to be the for our child to conduct the sign. but i know you get out to carefully and decide try devise the soul. he says, father, i'm thinking invest in for him. how does he have to always free to make my own decision? it is for support and ups and will just be king as a button, we never consider switching role to speed you while a company i go back to work right away and he stays the time. and that's awesome. but why not? in all, as soon as i didn't want that to get that might be not for somebody's osman, why they don't take correction, lease any or longer leave. they say i comp time,

so there's no one to replace. soon as i miss time, that kind of, that's nice me, but somehow all that never truth women. and just because they didn't have my male colleagues would spend too much on parental leave. they've come back and a short time later they get to promotions because of the current governance custodians. and they never have to wonder. and what is it a good time, or, you know, these type of stuff music when it comes to men's and women's curious children of the dividing line fall and can you, is this connecting emma women stay home for a while and then continue to look. and then of course, get ahead of women jennings, calling for biopsy. and even if they're not in the 5 that have more experience yet because they don't lose time 5, the here we get in terms of visual to who

who attends. so you always trying to share parental leave now. oh, have my husband take some leave up that lesson by then with my last baby, i was only out for 2 months more cash for it was hard because i was a ready department and i brought my baby to the hospital with me for quite a while. i'm for now. can somebody? yeah. i'm going to get the house. okay, print shop. i'm a funding to help diesel. one of my friends was retired and she came to the hospital to take care with the baby. and i feel for him like go to surgery, to come back to know if we can get a good place. but i've heard plenty of stories of people in med and especially men's and you are discriminated against if they take leave for including please, threats of dismissal. desktop from one to one pipeline will have to offer it on my phone and i told his boss about taking parental leave them to they were outraged

football phones or yours kind of why didn't i take for him to leave them good question. the semester, i didn't need it. i wanted to keep watching a strange that sound chip and i had my baby and a week later i still good, but i have to send one pacific this my 1st which is a bit more difficult. but then i put you in a baby carrier and took it every way to the accountant, the lawyer warehouse, but the truck inside the, by the wonderful for his that's the my supervisor contacted me during leave and said, causing just having a departmental meeting. do you want to come to call me now? when i switch i said i'd love to but i have to bring my son of mine. so wanted almost i'm going to as well. it's about the central thinking involvement. she said no problem. i felt that took courage 11 years ago,

long something of the thinking and that's how i found myself at work with a 3 month old child zone. the phones in sure to chop them up just because i still felt like i was being seen had, i had to say in things, so that was inspiring and encouraging you to give them the other few table notes. and so story. explain them all the end of my pregnancy. i shadowed for a week and then took the results to the board. how we work, why we went just to show he is someone who loves the children, but also loves to work and make a difference. all right, so she's the is and what has been made on. so how many simonton is wanting me to use my laptop stuff? a sheet them to come do is have to meet that special. so for the project into

the dimensions kashik, they have asked me if it gets some water from us. i understood, and on the 22nd me back as soon this time please give us a to me because i do need a bit of flexibility because my schedule isn't entirely under my control line. there's other players to consider, of course, as you come into, some of the commodities weren't actually listed player at the tool telling somebody we have a family calendar with all of our appointments, personal and professional, and so it was my mazda for so my husband could immediately see, oh, kind of car is on a business trip. she has an appointment and also she's working late for us to come and he does the same time. i try to be as morgan ice as possible to make it easier to deal with the unexpected daycare is closed childs get sick to see you comp time to everything. that's life. but this gives me time to respond. well, you know,

the kids solitude in the guns, puts evans i took the other one panel of under 3 c fat and got us before christmas because some, a sponsor might give you a new phone key and get us up. suspicious place. yeah. let them mutant to me telling that we should side to the seat in southern california and ok, then let me so i'm gonna even this was the ok if somebody is reading of my more home law for this one, the types of money and that's, that's why that's of interest, and i can look into the, except me, seeing a career and family doesn't mean you neglect one of them quite the opposite. you spend a lot of time and energy orchestrating the perfect sign of house or castillo thinking . sometimes you want me to spend more time with your child and simply explain it well that i have to deal with them because that's when i often reach my that much time on the comes from 5 to 5 sites and both parents work full time and you have 2

children and one child gets sick, who goes to thomas and when both you and your husband say you can't, we are. i don't want to say there'd be a big argument, but it's about sticking out your role. and of course, i had to fight for space for what i do for me to does less is gustavo dependency submitting and does it so on the, on the front of say, you're in the middle of a meeting. can you see a cold coming in and from daycare or sometimes you step house from good and you told your son had his board in the safe ground for unfortunately is some of the that's the moment when you're responsible for 20 or 30 co because it's a meeting pretty and also for your son i go to the for the default and photo. how v to minds on on that is the fish the it's hard to have to say i come pick up my child. i'm in a meeting, i'm meeting, i don't know 50 kilometers away. i'm not just 5 minutes away. then do you or tough the

of the house phone. if i'm going to attack the organization's challenges, organizing your work day so that you have time to take care of your children, impact the 20th when you're at work all day and in medicine, has a lot of meetings take place in the afternoon. i will be the department head meetings were between 5 and 7 pm when i 1st took my post. yeah, hold on to find a simple line assessment right down to the law. i used to sit there and think we have to go home. i don't have time for casual chit chat, as much as i need to know for to my car broke down to pulling numbers. come hold on, let me explain. liggins and guns common list. the rules of the game are made by hon

. man, and he, i'm and who are older and we don't have children will have children. someone else takes care of must be usually the wife wants things they don't have to worry about getting dinner on the table or filling the friendship as nothing tush. or was there something who's like for your sons? who did i of the 20 to 3? sure. i've done most of my work, so i'll go home after 3 or 4 depending to take care with my children. the 55 of my question was, well, so no tentative to returning to work full time, which to me was out of the questionnaire. schwarzenbach, designs the box up, cuz he is like my mom sometimes that's all dependent next it's under new. she wanted to be at home part time in the beginning to care for aliya and to be honest, i didn't ask myself that same question as it was and i think it would have been really difficult in my position. we know quite that progressive to because while

we're talking about combining work and family for women, the conversation isn't quite as far alone when it comes to men and fun units of all of us. and then i see this because i'm on the slide. the reason why not because i don't know is the most ardent i'd say because of history and traditional roles. the bid of his color and it's good. my company doesn't have a single top manager who works part time and in google and manage the entire sites . maybe they don't think they can make it. what should i expect us to on hot stuff, the end of a blind insight, central funk. and then i went home and has a baby regardless of whether she's a manager of a company, usually asks it how do you want to handle things when you come back come part time before how much time nobody fills up with man. it's been screwed when they're on the it would be good if we hold that to think about what we really want. that requires a change and thank you. across the board. women and families would have to think

about what their ideal scenario would you be? an employee is, would have to have the courage to try something on the use of the health and cons to 9 big. i'll be on my laptop. and so i don't suppose it's on tightest movement. no time. and i share my departments management position with a ton them top now to my basic model is that we each work 30 hours a week. so 75 percent of a regular full time job about this jump sharing solution was done by my career decision i ever made was best much because it was made. it's possible to combine with on family 5 has been done on the 2 foot in the den finding. we still had to figure out how charles karen that wasn't so easy. that was one of the hurdles at the beginning. besieged, i'm in and taking the gift. bon, we applied to 18 different jacobs i think it's really not as we have to go to

interview. yeah. for salems because we registered on various also in the field by we had to turn our lives inside our system. it doesn't even know if that did put a damper on things phones. we still didn't the baby around, but yeah, be so good. and i know he is on hold on to the mom, off on the, on the screen of him. big mist comes on the items, but i mean not how it does. and what about besides came back as soon this flies down. oh, i see. so more than once out. oh yeah. yeah. in essence declines less the invitation for the stake. yes. but we had for earlier was morning sunday because they said that could change our switched off the oscar stopped. that finishes those 10 sizes. so in germany right now,

you are lucky to get any spots a tool. like you can't even really ask yourself. what is the place like mind is it writes to me in my child, properties of the concept from you. and so put my can throw into tie you other good back then there were no daycare spots at all in aust, filled in orange to god for children under 3, you know, and i understand how to ties. they had agreed to work 30 hours a week and had no daycare has enough time to switch, which i looked around for childcare and then i met 2 other women in the new subdivision where we lived. same situation. um yeah, but you can access it to it. so what happened was, within 2 months, um we teamed up with instead of a private corporation and hired a child care with, regardless of whether it's good fun to keep it out on hunger mines. in the end, we were 14 women, you know, on the end of august that was the 1st child care for under 3 year olds. and also the one that i nearly good in all sit on my stomach protest. we tried to establish a daycare in our community owns and where they were

a bunch of different stuff out the name i'm busy lives and, but we kept changing grove loveseat as of this is because even find a property where you can set up a daycare and the key tech wouldn't and so could that could be in charge. i've seen how important it is to have reliable child care. that's true. the key 100 us was, was the ones on wonder what else we even decided where to live based on that. so as to when we 1st is looking for a daycare and then looking for a house, i knew we needed to optimize our community team in the the,

the, the best and fun hobby's. wonderful based. i did wonder if i was asking too much of it and she was very little when she started the daycare you took your young is about this laugh she not. the 8 meals the last time away the summer, his house even a year old. see the big fun to house the, the how to indian movement. i'm sometimes i did feel guilty and it's good law and i

felt like i missed something important. for example, when he learned how to write these down in a spike. and he was pretty good on it and it wasn't, that would be moments devices to but yeah, these are the moments when you realize there are limits of the compatibility of korea and family events. in those moments. i'm sad more and we always leave top off at a script in my files and there were times when i wondered whether i was doing the right thing to stick a big. and by my times when i felt torn, i thought i couldn't concentrate on one thing who wished ish, which of, i'm constantly on this when i think of this and the feeling guilty is just part of it from, from day one. i'm it shut off on the top to end up when my daughter was a teenager, she said to me, you're never here anyway. i'm going to, it's moments like that that make you think. thank me. oh, i buy something to think that when you noticed working and going well not,

and this also good for me and i season. yeah. if you don't i think she sense is that and it works. um, so the limited amount of how to read the or as enough more when i picked her up off the daycare for me, i spent about 4 hours with her sometimes maybe half an hour late around about 4. i believe it was around about future. we spend the rest of the day together doing something fun, whatever we're up to an hour and i own type of stuff and use it as a problem. the children come 1st form that's very important to, to have this thing and it's a long as long as they know that they're fine. come, then you can say, no, sorry, right now i have to work out. i am is this visitors. but if you really need

something, and i'm here for you and customer this off, as might have talked, i gave them it. i my daughter handles it pretty well, naturally has kept him. of course there are times when she needs me more and demands more on my mind. basically it's completely normal for mama to go to work foundational. my does my, my, i buy it and send it to you knows, i'm vastly so confusing. i'll wait in the evening, he comes and says mama, i know you're always best to me. and i say you can come to me with anything. i live up to head, of course, not always for any time, but we do say with any thing in my private life, i do sometimes get the same people, souls of assistance that were going on here. don't you love your child? inside of them? for the sons of boy i said the classic ones only when we were trying to set up a daycare. we also went to the local council mind. if he came a real political issue on that as a struggle, the age of a mental,

i'm older man on the counseling. so to us, if you're going to have children stay home and take care of them, i could not. and with my reply was, well, i didn't have these children all by myself. no to canada, certainly try lineup in non conduct. got that will should be too late. and then the daycare because they said, how can you raise a child if you can't even be flexible without a pointing to be able to find him even with the idea and couldn't smash on c, a as in max. but it was a bit strange to hear from this one. for the, with the jump like this, it wasn't considered capable of raising the child or to some kid cost. let's see the tighter my, the, my new role. i'll also be on the ship advisory board and the phone so that will be new. somebody to pick in the device. every new job is its own john. you never really know what it would entail and every move upward like that as well. so

challenges you guys in about 4 and wanted to get it done side consorts. he was on parental lead for a number of months and they came back to the company in a higher position with very different duties. a lot more responsibility for staffing that has a lot more international responsibility fund 4 to buses, media time kind of what i can do is provide insight into the work at the top level from a variety of different perspectives in her new role on the supervisory board. to go to guns because i don't know if i can answer questions and get her on her way. so you have this, i don't on the often big game this giving you the all the seats. lots its own clubs, trust that porting ties and gibson. it was important going up like on the side of the buses, buses on sped to, to the, not this sunday, the buses. it's a tire shop class at a set of. it's a real opportunity,

but you have to approach it with respect even a bit of humidity as part of top management, you're in a position of influence. so does that mean less time? feel family for me? yeah, i stick with the show, this kind of extend charles, but at the. ready the day i have to make sure it will get started in because as move to another u. s. and ask not how do you manage to with the children mcdonough office on never asked. that's what this means for act on the invoice. on the times i say what about my husband? he just said before i go to, he was also constantly on the road. he's right, but no one ever called him an awesome. and what about your children? and i see it now. hard enough that's in the evening today when i say i'm traveling for work or working on an exciting project. people often ask me a comment about your child to lead the fargo on best most with the kids. and then i say they usually just locker in the basement with themselves. they invest the estimates

for stealing as parents were teen my husband also. and he is things like, well, with that woman on the side with her emissions, you're going to have to take it back seats. those kinds of comments def, that you meant to of me. and on the other side, i also get comments like causing what is your child's crying? and you know, that sounds like my child has a saw the 2 most of the comments on just directed at me, my husband and, and how we organize our family. there's always judgment on investment. what makes a good mother? a good father. good caramels. yeah, that's like some chickens and doesn't know that you do feel guilty before especially it fast because it's the children. and it's under somebody to, to said, mama, one night, always the last i want to get picked up from daycare. i had to explain to your parents both enjoy watkin is kind of gives us the life we have to do this over to

them. it is a theme, be relieving the types of deals so well good for the types i did worried that people would judge me because he studied just kinda swim, said that i didn't put my children fast skill sets understand that i put my own needs on the same level as last thoughts as on y'all's collection. who is it that took courage? because i've moved to florida the docs and alcoholism and my heart. it helps to have women friends and working mothers to talk to. i was toast. and when you hear that women who work less and spend more time at home, have their own problems, you realize you just have to do what's right for you. that's fine and begin to live in. always try to find that happy medium between family and books to sit with. and that's success. when we manage to bring my 2 sides into humming height, so can then we can sleep well at night. it can be on the go see an elephant.

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with the arch and matches rather than the important one. and then having a network is a central feel. korea, it gives you support and encouragement, inspiration, and ideas for problem solving. well, you don't have to do it on your own, just on the line and lose the promotions that can be so much like was booked for 7 30 tomorrow morning. but my husband has to be at the office at an 8 tomorrow generations. so i'm flying home to know that i'll just keep looking for my children are part of the package i've grown and matured so much because systems and they've made me who i am in the car and my children aren't an obstacle to my career. i've grown along with my children and so it was my career and mitigation of all

the paper. i'm going to come shaky. did the school punk just find me sales for flushing, the exclusive that i think is missing and i things not. and then on the other one in the phones of human focus in mental issue and tried, my goal is to make decisions deliberately and try them. for example, i like to high a month is big because i know that they face the same challenges, but the only day on the shovel claim was going on done. i'm very busy, i could think of and they have to get the work done by the end of the day. we're going to, i'm going to satisfy, i'm listening so often on the demo or efficiency that's sort of the the mention of fits into albertson them. i'm coming along with my question issue and long for sure . all right, and you were able to go next to the home and then come in. yeah. time can you

see this santo? so imagine the last one is for curious in my, in the email as well. i'll take another look at my e mails. and if everything is under control and i'll go home, i'm planning to bank something with the children this evening thinking the 2nd, the vin. if it came down to me and i'd rather hire a $150.00, even if she's not even less qualified on paid context, people grow with their responsibilities and you have my choice would be to support someone who really needs that support in our society. and somebody needs people who support women who do support from others for itself until we reach equality. and we were a long way from that to unfortunately same items have flight of the

video segment for educators and starts with the role models. usually we don't service role models of how will our daughters know what's past? alice murphy, my inclusive, which is my greatest hope is that one day we'll have mothers in the workforce fashion. and it will be totally normalized for them to save from time to time. sorry, i have to leave this meeting because i have to go pick up my daughter. well, my son i just came in to talk to this gives even more than that. so i talked to him mentors say that team sucks him off. and man on get back to to, to cut me off because that i've always said, i'm not joining your supervisor, people just for stages. it'd be the token moment for the 4th. and how of the bottom of this type as me is on spice. i'm doing this for my goal, so mine and tossed down by tv says that it will be different by the mountain this i get as i'm then found as agents in my life is richer for it. so i shall, i can't imagine my life without my children or my job. one of my trouble. most

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