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this week, how much was going to really get we still have time to act. i'm going to subscribe for movies like the so there's an emerging front in russia's invasion of the ukraine. the vital shipping rates for ukraine's huge stores of grain. i'm the commercial ports on the black sea, from where those ships head off to help feed a hungry world. russian missiles are hating those ports and blockading ships from leaving them. today, a german owned container carrier set off to break that blockade, leaving ukraine and holding the shore line. the yoseph showed to aims to reach assembled with an unspecified cargo and a heavy load of uncertainty along its journey. on top of the yes, this is the day,
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the is great, survive to shedding on his left. it's a great sorrow for everyone. really more than we can not sell our products. as the port infrastructure is partially destroyed, unblocked, they say you need a guardian angel. it's hard to talk about this, the shortest if we don't understand it continues to dominate the black sea outside its territory slot, caving, or firing at us again, launching missiles at our ports. ukraine will do the same. summer also coming up, we may be desperate people of haiti's capital fling their homes to escape, heavily armed gains, but at least some residents afford our products,
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are pointing the blame elsewhere. it wasn't the gang leaders who chased me out of my head. it was the haitian state that chased me out of my head and the haitian stage that killed all the people you'll see. because it's the state that has the circle of legitimacy and violence. the state can witness the grand ravine, govern, taking over the streets and never do anything about it. to our viewers on p b. s. in the united states and all around the world, welcome to the program. we begin the day on the waters of the black sea where you crane says it has started sending ships along what it describes as to monetary and car doors. the 1st ship left odessa on wednesday morning carrying an unspecified cargo. the hong kong flagged german owned yoseph shelter is one of many that have been stuck in ukrainian ports since the war began. russia has said it considers all ships in the area to be potential military targets. now in july,
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moscow withdrew from a deal that allowed the safe passage of ukrainian grain shipments. the resumption of ship movements raises the possibility of intervention by russian warships and comes amid increasing tensions in the black sea summer. sun sands and see the beaches of odessa reopened. this month for the 1st time since rush us invasion, it may look identical, but this ukrainian black, c, c, c is now at the house of the battle of the military and geopolitical interests. russia has long been the prominent naval power in the black sea with its fleet stationed in columbia. but the western shows are controlled by nato allies, romania and bulgaria, and parts of the eastern shore belongs to nature popular georgia. in the south nato member techie is the gatekeeper of the black sea, controlling the only access point through the bus press straight. in the early days
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of the war, russia started mining ukrainian waters and blockading its ports, including odessa. the blockade disrupted ukraine's great exports, leaving millions of people affected, particularly in african nations. dounia often months of uncertainty techies, president rep, tie up at one and the united nations and broke it a d last summer for russia to allow ukraine to export it strain. but in july this year, ahead of the russia, africa summit, vladimir putin pulled out of the deal with most co announcing ships. the saving ukrainian ports would no longer be saving it when they got the federal in the tensions continue to rise as rush up again. the bombing campaign targeting ukraine supports infrastructure in odessa that forced ukraine to find alternative routes, sending its exports to smaller ports along the river, down you on its west and boulder. but that to russia took action bombing,
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the ports of rennie scene has failed in just a few 100 meters away in romania and nato country law. ukraine also ramped up its attacks targeting navy vessels in russian ports and several russian ships in the black sea. and then last week came another clash with rushes, navy firing warning shouts at a plow flag vessel afterwards failed to stop for inspection. it was boarded in a dramatic rate, but lights were allowed to continue to ukrainian. done, you porch rushed as president has said he is open to returning to the great deal, but only in exchange for better conditions for russia's own exports, but by the ukrainian grain expos remain stuck in storage facilities and in trucks waiting to be picked up. as the black sea stand off as fast reaching boiling point,
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i'm pleased to welcome doctor onrush writes a senior research fellow at the center for order and governance in eastern europe, russia and central asia at the german council on foreign relations. he joins us from the on gary and capital budapest. dr. rats welcome to dw, so let's start with ukraine using grain exports. now at this point in the conflict, are there any viable alternatives to the black sea for moving ukraine's food stuffs? not really, but the allies in the details here. we need to define reach black sea boards. are we talking about the largest meet in naval boards located on the shoreline of the black sea. what is, uh, let me go live and these are located still by the russian navy. mena by ukraine continues to explore the green through the danube boards and from the danube to the black sea and the domain, and we'll get goals, line and sort ourselves. so bottom of the black sea still operates,
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but this export route through the venue and the roster from the south. he's a much smaller capacity than the ports of what this off were because i have could be so still that the neighbor explorer group to maybe by next book who is strongly constrained due to the russian relocate and also due to the mindset right now, today the hong kong flag, german own container ship at the use of shelter left at odessa, on route to assemble. can we expect more shipments along this route spend? the use of showed that this ship is got stuck. you notice at the beginning of the full scale escalation. so for more than one and a half years by now, as we, as we speak, deals actual diminished the gross ukrainian, well, the planar shoreline. and right now we go to the boss, then you dine, it's safe to heading sort ourselves. so this ship is safely out of hopefully some
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other ships the means that will be out of the board of ukraine. however, these are not green transport ships deals up showed that for example, the container ship. so the real question is video rush. i want to below sheet green transport ships to enter the order support and save the exit from there. this is something we can be caught, cannot define yet at the moment. mean a via the degree next board can continue only by other than you ports. is ukraine essentially being strangled, economically, by russia's blockade of the black sea? indeed, yes. this is located, one of the purpose of this blockade is to do economic harm to ukraine. i mean, anybody's ukraine has been one of the largest exporter of certain great product and from stuff green, soft, lower weight and some other products. so the blog export or the content exposure, schooling serious are deeply. there's another side of the coin. and this year,
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russian agriculture is expecting the record high. you are very good productivity or so by booking you cleaning great export groceries also creating the market for her own green export into that m. c. as rush accident, dyslexia, the green export, the food star, full price for the start to rise on the market. right. well, militarily, is it more of a stand off? have you brains, naples, thrown attacks, but russia on the back foot, sam? yes or no. i mean the, for the russian navy, it's not safe to go any close to your insurance. this has to be made fairly every done by just thinking for the multiple crews or the flexible brushes, lexi feed yet last spring. however, in order to build the, the rest of the commercial investors going keen and all the few green, the russian navy does not need to get close to wait shore line. so these are the russian navy,
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still able to maintain the blockade and strand ukraine's great export. and the only search the boat simply face comes from your minds, neighbor, drums. but these new neighbors, drones, unavailable yet in small numbers. so we don't really know to what extent russia he's able to for the block, then able to transport more life to that. russia main thing is the capacity to, to, to blow up the, the, me, but exports on. so the russia, maybe it's like kind of a sort of the whole class ready to strike, able to strike. and because of the, the terrorist effect doesn't actually need to strive all the time. so good possibility that the russian, the, these cable to stop and search best of so it is likely to have a determinant the fact medical measures. let's talk about nato now, because that we can forget that there are 3 nato members at the border. the black sea, so it was there a risk, but nato is made party to this war by accident score. the risk is never
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0. however, the risk is very, very low. both are due to the fact that both sides, i mean, both need to and russia are interested in avoiding any kind of an escalation. so an escalation on purpose. this is something that both sides try to stay off, try to avoid. if accidents happen, incidents happen, there is a whole line established between nato and russian directly. so should any see that happen? there is of age to handle it across the glasses in the beginning of the war, denver and some situations which have gone wrong. a few months ago, right? rush of the air force them down to us through the damage to us throwing over the black sea. so there have been cases which could have escalated, but the sides managed to de escalate. and to avoid any verse, i think of the situation. so this is something we can trust in the future as well. now, one of those nato countries is turkey, of course, and, and they play
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a pivotal role here in, in, in, in this area as a controls to so access point at, for shipping to the wider world to know what are turkeys interests here. the main interest here is to get the degree indeed restarted turkey profits economically from the green d like dog here. what's the problem is particularly from the grain deal anyways, don't k is one of the anybody expected pollution here being a need to come to one side. still, 3rd gate is such a boston for russia through which most go is able to negotiate the best time to give you one example. turkeys the country discuss any dates, menu of the appraisal of exchanges between the ukraine and russia. so turkey is a, is a company to reach both fighting sites can talk to, and also need to is able to talk to russia via a turkey. so turkey is playing the key acute over here for somebody to bring him in . we'll get you scheduled to visit turkey by the end of august,
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things that they did not known yet. and one element on the agenda of his visit to turkey, they'll be the possibility of pretty starting to brandy. turkey would be very much interested in that. however, it's unlikely that gosh, in the middle, any concessions on the conditions, etc. already. right now we've got less than a minute left. so briefly, if you could what a base dealer in idaho countries, romania and bulgaria, are they in the same page when it comes to the conflict and remaining. and we'll give you a different of done the same day. they're both interested in restarting degree and you and of course they are both the live allies. nato need to is, is a stationing significant forces and forces of naval capabilities. and you will mania securing data space. and it's a total of all kinds of deadlines, right. doctor onrush rats of the german council on foreign relations. thank you for your insights. thank you. or
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you and chief antonio guitar says a multinational force, including police and military units should be deployed to the caribbean nation of hating to combat. heavily armed gains who overpowered haiti's, police force their estimated to have seized control of some 80 percent of the capital portal products and thousands of civilians are fleeing. the violence was just the few belongings they can carry these families. a trying to reach safety fighting and gang violence in haiti's capital is driving many out of their homes by foot on motorcycle. their faults to seek shelter in public squares. and schools like this. it wasn't the gang leaders who chased me out of my head. it was the haitian state that chased me out of my head and the haitian stage that killed all the people. you'll see. because it's the state that has the circle of legitimacy of violence. the states can witness the grand ravine, gang,
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taking over the streets and never do anything about it. secondly, hays, he has faced the use of economic security and political crisis. crime and poverty has escalated since president sherman down movies was assassinated and current prime minister arial henri has struggled to send the unrest. human rights watch says rapes killings and kidnappings by criminal groups have risen dramatically since the stones of the yes. and it's triggered the angle on the streets with thousands of protest is calling one of our teeth to provide more protection. and a we lost out policeman who were helping us find the games they played all night. right. scripts are appealing for more action to address the crisis in haiti. but the un security council is yet to the side whether to deploy an international force to fight the surge and violence.
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kenya is the latest country to consider taking the lead to bring law in order for now is the people of haiti who continue to face uncertainty until help arrives . brian con cannon is a human rights floor. i'm the executive director of the institute for justice and democracy in haiti, and he joins us now from boston, massachusetts, welcome to dw, so the latest emergency in haiti's capital is just real cold at a snapshot of a country facing at multiple prices. so give us a sense if you could, of what it's like, living in hating today. well i think the, the footage that you just showed gives a good sense of it is asians describe it as, as literally living in hell over 200000 people are displaced,
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100 over 800000 children are facing wasting hunger this year. there's not a single elected official in office gains control large parts of the country. and it's a type of situation you see typically in a situation of civil war or massive natural disaster, but 80 hasn't had any. this is, this is the result of the steady dismantling of democracy by the current government as one of the interviewees sat in that clip. that thing un secretary general as cold for a robust use of force to restore order. now is that actually what's needed is as armed intervention really needed as a 1st step to begin to solve the maintenance issues that, hey hate, is dealing with. the haitians will tell you and they've been telling anybody who will listen, that the 1st step is the international community needs to stop propping up the
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repressive government that there is no chance that you can have a security situation as long as you have a government that has the clips showed is complicit in this? the government has been collaborating with gangs to take over neighborhoods that are dominated by opposition parties. the one of the top gang members beat alone, you know, song is driving around in official plates. over half of police officers have some connections to games, you can't just and in international police to support the same government that's brought this problem and expect it to be any different. what asians are saying is international community needs to stop supporting the wordpress of government. and allowing a consensus government to take over once you have a legitimate government in place to make and ask for help from each national community. they can legitimately decide how the international community can help
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them fight insecurity. but in order to achieve that and rebuild the country's institutions, how, what is it exactly that they need? then how, how are they going to go about rebuilding the countries institutions if they're in such and dire situation? i mean, 1st you need to get the patient's keep yelling this to anybody who will listen and not many people listen, you need to stop supporting the repressive government that created the situation. that is absolutely the 1st step for anything can happen. once that happens, there are several viable haitian solutions that have been put on the table, but that the international community, i'm a got them, asian government have blocked. there's been some very good consensus for and did plans that develop broad popular support in order to move forward. and basically, most of the plans involved some kind of transitional government whose job it is to
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establish security and run fair elections and most haitian civil society leaders think that that is possible. but the, the haitians just need to be given a chance, which isn't going to happen as long as you have the current government at bower. why is this actually been blocks? why is it not actually happened in the international community has decided that that's led by the united states, but includes the secretary general gutierrez has decided that the current authorities in 80 are the best vehicle for moving 84. i have been strongly disagree and i think if you look at the numbers, you know, the displaced the lack of any government, the elected officials in place. it's hard to justify continuing the st path, but the, the one in the us keep doing this and you're wanting sample of how adamant they are
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. the 2019 the head of the u ones, just as mission and 80 issue to communicate. calling for accountability for police massacres. she was pushed out of the country and uh, without any defense by the us or the you went and replaced with someone who was again, bid went back to being supportive of the current regime. did you see any grass roots initiatives among haitians? to help society hill? there's hundreds of, i mean patients are, are, every day they're reading there, they're up there protesting. they're writing articles. i mean haiti has a really robust civil society that can, that can heal 80. they just need to be given the choice, but instead of giving a chance, there's top down solutions imposed by the international community that are preventing patients solutions from working. can heidi's problems be traced,
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at least in part to it's colonial past? are certainly haitians well, if you ask them up to explain the current situation, they'll start back in back with slavery and independence in 18041804. the world of which was run by slave owning countries. they did their best to make sure that he would not work. no one would recognize 80, they slapped in a bar, go on the country, and they forced $82.00 pay a huge crippling independence that haitian saves the exact same policy. now, where the international community is imposing repressive governments and not allowing nations to, to create their own democracy and to succeed in the way the haitians want to build their own country. how often mistake are you for hate and haitians? i'm optimistic when i think of the haitians that are fighting every day to bring
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democracy back and who are fighting for justice and taking enormous risk to do so. i, you know, i'm pessimistic when i read a secretary general gutierrez's letter that he talked about a broad range of options for the you when, but not one of the was the one that asians are asking for, which is to stop supporting and repressive government. very complex situation. us for sure. brian kind of the executive director of the institute for justice and democracy in haiti. thanks for joining us on the day. thank you for having me. of the of germany is a step closer to legalizing marijuana. the government has signed off on a draft bill allowing adults to buy and possess small amounts of kind of, as the legislation still needs to pass parliament. but if it does, germany would become the 1st major european country to legalize it. for recreational use,
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presenting his draft law to journalist the health minister said it represents a turn around into him and he struck a policy on the plans. germans over the age of 18 can legally process up to 25 grams of cannabis in the future. growing up to 3 ham plants for private use will also be legal. adults can buy cannabis if they join non profit social clubs that produce its pilot projects, including the sale of kind of as products and license stalls. also plans to the health minister says he wants to check the black markets much go to buy on it and criminal disease. we are the criminalizing that we're doing. so in a way that actually only allows private cultivation with personal consumption is permitted, where people will be allowed to own up to 25 grams of candidates. and so i'm just going kind of as so can stick stuff by this. that's of a nice little thing,
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but not everybody is asking us to help them in as the police and judges sable regulations will mean more work duct us. one easy access to the drug could impact brain development and adolescence. the government's also wants to raise more awareness about the risks of consumption porter. i can do this because that way and type in a way that to put it up. everyone will understand kind of issues has no place among children and young people. it remains prohibited the meanwhile, the german public is divided over the issue. according to a new survey, 45 percent of german citizens, a fundamentally or post to legalize ation. while the 40 percent in favor, it's a single people need to be careful, but maybe legalize ation can prevent some illegal behavior. we have enough drugs smoking drinking. if it is, i would say this is a large scale trial. it can be reviewed like the law will now go to probably events
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where it's expected to be passed by the end of this year. and that's all for the day. i'm pablo solely. as in berlin, thanks for watching and we'll see you another day. take care the
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the the this is dw, use live from berlin. ukraine defies russia. incense i have a ship from the port of odessa. the container vessel safety leads ukrainian motors using a new card or for merchant ships, despite russian warnings that it might target vessels on the black sea. also on the program. already mired in poverty. the people of the share begin coping with crippling sanctions. weeks after the conference president is i've stood in a code for.

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