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the i'm british manager. welcome to the the news aisha. i'm glad you can join us 70 or 2 years ago today, indonesia declared independence from dots. colonial rule bought is supposed to be another 4 years of a broken war before the netherlands finally agreed to hand over power. that divided and fitted in indecision history continues to cost a shadow. today. the netherlands only recently began paying damages to the children of indonesians executed by dot soldiers dw correspondent rebecca, not to who met one man whose final memory about his father is that of him being shot years ago. rust is patients started to decline. he suffered from cataracts, but didn't have enough money for a surgery. that change last year when, who received 5000 euros from the dutch government. the money was compensation for

a massacre committed, drew in indonesia, some more of independence. in 1947, almost all the meals and the village of all good. they were murdered by dutch troops. one of them was russ, these father. rusty was just 6 years old at the time. and i do, i didn't, but as that and my father was on his way from the jung left ascending price. he had his own business and yeah, he was killed on his way back. was with my mother at home. someone said that is that my father had been shots. why do you have love hour? if that's a lot more than $400.00 men are believe to has been killed that day. only a $181.00 bodies were found there remains are buried in this graveyard dedicated to the victims, including rusty's father. the historian on the hon has been following the settlement negotiation closely. she says it took far too long for the netherlands

to acknowledge its crimes, but sees a payment of damages to the victims. children as an important just or tortured conciliation and can so i must them, i can't connect. it's too little too late in the sense that many people from the 1st generation have passed away, leaving in the 2nd and 3rd generation, their grandchildren. i think this recognition is an important step, not only to ensure the welfare of the family members, but also to emphasize that what the grandparents data was important for the nation building process. and when i get to continue the process mission, building the amount of money that the victims get, cannot do justice for what history has taken from them by rusty, at least has made peace with his pass. i found on them. i don't hold any grudge against adults what has happened. let it be in the past to that. did you know that? well, that pass going to be change. neither can direct with mission or for all will get

a sacrifice written on the wall behind the grief yard. are the words as a he'll on do at that will be along to die or live with on or there is no other choice. and joining mean off a more context is bonnie triana. he's a historian who researches the netherlands as colonial past, particularly in in the new share i, mr. triana, it took the netherlands more than 17 years. do agreed to pay 5000 your was to children of indonesians would been executed by that soldiers. do you think that payment is too little too late? yeah, i think 1st of all. busy money cannot be the place a human life that's, that's for sure, that's clear. but i think i think this is the way the netherlands go from one to one to what you call it one to address day or a problem,

especially from the past. so this is you know, do. ready they went to east a burden the historical burden so well uh, from my point of view as a new nation is dirty and we have to respect that, you know, back as again money cannot replace or cannot compensate the human lives that get that for sure. bad, you know, what happened here in the netherlands or offer one d k. you know, many young generation now in the netherlands are really curious about what day and a grandparent and, but they are a ancestor and had been done in indonesia during colonial era. so i think are now defined these uh, change now to many, many, many people here,

especially the youngster are very good use. and i think that is one of the fact that of why the government of the low one to compensate and of course, but people from the day 14 in to 1000 and uh, set up in the front of the mistake. and they also send a lawsuit against the uh, government of the netherlands. right. the problem is, but, but you know what, my concern is, uh, it's easy to read the uh, statement from the judge uh, in lander, in, in, in, in uh, in the corner of, uh, the heck. you can uh find that charlie the compensation with a different intuition. s a s. uh, what's a good as a deck in this uh, civilian not as, uh, not as uh, uh, what you call it most as a the people of indonesia. so actually definitely one of the deadline. i

know for nice the intuition independence i, i do want to talk to you about that because it talked about uh, a new generation of, uh, dodge, being curious about the colonial either. and then you talk about how the compensation has been given by adults quotes. i mean, they think together, what do we gather about the attitude in the netherlands to the colonial fost? is that a sense of apology? is that a sense that it was ok for the time? what is the, what is the impression you get yeah, i didn't uh, into that a lot of people are of my being aware about their boss. and if i'm the government of the land, establish a community that you know uh of what you're going to pay the

attention to the, the content off of the story subject in school audience. and so, so this is a problem being no public debate in or so public discussion in the line we knew are the in indonesia. we also have a historian and also what you call it the yeah. activism as well. so some of the active use, i think the of course and the attention to this issue. uh, what i thing uh what the, what is the import them was, is that, you know, they trying to comprehend that boss, i mean people, the internet and as well as in indonesia, we have trying to, to understand what happened in the past, especially in, in, in in colonial time. so this is a new era where the young generation can easily access the information from the

internet. they cannot the satisfied to and information or knowledge that they get from data bannon or been better. and i think this is a new new and i, so what we, you know, we did the problem, the young, i'm sorry to drop it in. so, but the temper understand this. i mean, you're talking about 350 years of colonial rule. and why is this such a blank page at the moment in the manner in which at least you are describing it in reach of the, the dutch and the indian nations are trying to fathom what they believe about this particular beat. it isn't enough what you don't already out there to know the reality of what colonial rule was. yeah. yeah. uh, i think this is also a bud perspective for interest and we in indonesia would see and would comprehend that you know what happened in 1945 during our pollution. we are 0 because at the

end of the day, at that time we won the war after 4 years fight against the rico . that's how it equal nicely because that's when to equal to nice. meanwhile, here the in internet lab, we have a, you know, we can, you know, we can have a people here who lives here, especially docile of part of our, even though community, who feels like, you know, as a victim of our institution. so this is a 2 different perspectives and most the magenta to practiced on rampaging mobs up the deck and set fire to church's off the reports. the court on was desecrated. the image desecration east crew would violate, focused on stringent blast from your nose, which provide for the death penalty. for insulting islam. a mob goes vigilante from dish and sticks and stones

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