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computers that are similar to governments that go crazy for your data. we explain how these technologies work. that's how they can also watch it. now, the, so it's now 540 days since russian forces invaded ukraine, unleashing one of the bloodiest complex on european soil since world war 2 for months now, ukraine has been trying to claw back. it's occupied territories, but progress has been slow and costly. for many, it's also been disappointing. russia meanwhile, has assumed a mostly defensive pastor behind a dense and deadly web of mine, fields and fortifications. both sides are bleeding,
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and the question now is which army and which society will prove more resilient on popular felony? yes, this is the day. the regions in the world are being tested by geopolitical competition, by climate crisis, by russia's war of aggression against ukraine. the combat situation shows that ukraine has already exhausted us, and it was under the pretext of supporting chief the united states lets its allies use up the weapons and promises to deliver cheap new was the week of slide twice. i guess that pressures, advice to, you know, kind of fall off. it says, fundamentally, if russia stop the war and uh,
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we'll start to read the relationship with the west continental. and this what can help also coming up facing defiant qu, leaders in the share military chief of the west african block eco, was our drawing of a plan of action. if diplomacy fails, they say they're ready to march into each year to restore it's deposed. president let the state in or the full width booth. this would be ready to to our viewers on p b. s. in the united states and all around the world. welcome to the program. we begin the day on the front line in southern ukraine, where the country's military says it's pushing russian forces farther back after re
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taking a village on wednesday. the 1st settlement to keep says it's liberated since late july. ukraine is trying to find the build from a mental in a counter offensive lasting months. that's gotten bogged down in russian line fields and fortifications can. you've also said it's given up on receiving us made at 16 jets any time this year. ukraine had been pressing its western allies for the war plains, which it hoped could help protect its cities from russian bombardments, which have become an almost daily occurrence. what ukraine did confirm its getting is more stage of the arch air defense. a german made iris peace systems have already proven their worth in defending the capital keith from russian airstrikes. but those are now increasingly targeting other ukranian cities and award that's being grinding on for 17 months. we have this report show as loaded into an american how it's a cannon,
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because this is the front line of ukraine's counter offensive. since june, the army has been pushing back from active positions that extend more than 1200 kilometers. and despite the supply of weapons from the west, they're only making limited progress with limited power and its forces stretched then. but even small advances could turn out to be technically significant. this week ukrainian troops on the south eastern front claimed to have retaken the small village of a rush. china, located within a 150 kilometers of the ports of russia occupied mary, you pull and buddy on. and if you crate and where to take those cities, the land bridge that connects crimea to russia through occupied ukraine would be broken. but getting through heavily fortified russian lines won't be easy. they'll need to cross open fields which are extensively mind,
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where they also run the risk of attacks from the f and russian troops behind the tree line. and if they make it that fall next, they'll face and elaborate. mays of trenches and metal and concrete and deep tank defenses, known as dragons teeth. still small advances by either side will reduce the capabilities of the other. russia recently intensified separation in the northeast, drawing ukrainian forces away from most strategic areas in the southeast. now ukraine is making gains on that front forcing most goes military to redeploy, but the to and fro cannot continue in its current form for long as autumn and modest season fast approaches when oil tanks will be stopped in the tracts until spring to all since western countries began supplying weapons to ukraine. russian media have played time their importance in the war. this week. russia's defense
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ministry paraded, captured, western made weapons on state television. the propaganda show came during a security conference which moscow is using to project strength. it's not the middle of every afternoon or what the viewers are informed about the war, but i see this live show broadcast better. i'll see a state television is called 60 minutes, right. and the exclusive tag in the top left corner suggest today's program will be an exciting one. the topic confiscated, western weapons, new cranial, i mean it was much different of political plays here we can see the australian bush must the armored vehicles of transporting soldiers. so we still have got to have say, it's completely burned tight up. that's a watch. and the vehicle was seized. what you would exciting. you're the village of co, you and then the next public on you know, it's not on the have you spoken to you about the lago? that's what russian propaganda calls the occupied territories. and ukraine like watching the trophies are present during the army. 2023 military exhibitions and
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have a nice weekend patriot parking gorbinko on the outskirts of moscow. often, liability suggests this. we have them here. you can see obviously a french car much as you can see from the flag. the reason why you buckled is the slice actually in a good condition is not less than you know, but we can see that it's being picked by a billet. that means the car, but that's the way we can handle that one. ok, it's something rusher likes to claim that western military technology cannot withstand the rigors of fighting and ukraine. hundreds of items are on display and could be good to prove this. from finland, sweden, france, australia, and the united states. and each time the flaws are highlighted is where they are and it is a tactic also used by moscow is top military brass knew that, you know, it's here. russian defense minister circuit showing who plays down ukraine's military strength strategically speaking at the international security summit in
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moscow start, how does the issue the georgia bio district book has come about. situation shows that that ukraine has already exhausted into us. and also there is a share under the pretext of supporting keith. whereas the united states, let's its allies use up the weapons and promises to deliver cheap new one of these roles and the fact that they are trying to sell their own new minute treat products . and then your costs go into promotional complex. when that agent is nothing showing who also admits that russia so called special military operation, it is a serious challenge for its armed forces, waiting this to become carefully avoiding the term war and then as required by russian law. to put back on this special edition of 60 minutes, there is no such problem that provides from the presenter uses the word several times. as he shows office boils of russia's invasion. the end to suppose that weakness of the west was themselves as well. joining us from vienna is very not
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check her over who is a g o strategic consultant, a former director of the australian institute for european and security policy. thanks for joining us on the day that we've just seen 2 sides of russia's war in ukraine, the brutal fighting on the front and rushes, parading of that captured western gear on television. so let's start with the russian side. are many russian so far removed from the conflict that it's just a t v war for most as well. yes, absolutely. and will to be seen also into for each uh shows. uh, colleen lead um you know, part of the, a psychological warfare that freshman has been successfully conducting st. you will receive a war of attrition, ease of perfectly serving russian interest. so they are of this to prepare for this scenario quite well and to well, the a with this scenario for of attrition is on the one hand as we've also heard to
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exhaust ukrainian troops a. but the other hand, of course, also to create a situation where a possible political ritual, who happen in europe, because this war has many layers and next to the layer of the battlefields, there is the layer of that you cannot make warfare on europe and will keep clearly observed here is that russia has now successfully conducted the blockade on the black sea area. one that aims to create additional commodities, the crisis scenario for the upcoming winter. and we should be also prepared for a scenario which, which i may try again to play the energy cart next to the food commodities. so all you know here what we are seeing is a tricia has adapted to the realities, given the fact that the tests not being successful with the 1st space of the war. and at the same time, it says that ukraine has conducted successful come through
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a fast defense counsel festival in the past. so right right now the russian perspective is to make everything possible to slow down this concert offensive by the korean forces and 2 possible prevented from a further success. as we have to contrast all of this with the devastation in ukraine to force that practically the entire population is feeling. so we've been seeing the resilience of ukrainian society since the start of this war. but how is it actually effective them? especially if considered that there appears to be no end in sight to this conflict . even with no clear end to this war, the credit society and the political leadership show wavering spirit. let's be clear about one thing and that is that this war is also about the will
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to fight. and here we see that on both sides for different reasons. there is still a will to fight. now, what is the cranium perspective from ukraine's point of view. there only 2 options in this work since the beginning of says the launch of the door. and these 2 options are either seating for the territories and population underbrush and control right now the risk controls around 17 percent of the point in territory. and we've seen in the past what happened with the territories and the population and the russian occupation. and the 2nd option is to continue fighting for additional integrity for the survival of the nation. so we clearly see a prevailing sentiment to fight for the survival of the plane as a nation to claim as a territory in ukraine. as a state, do you see ukraine's forces find the gaining momentum then in their push sides? yes, absolutely. we are currently in the most active face of these particular accounts
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are offensive. the counter offensive has begun very slowly for many obvious reasons . now it's not the time to discuss that this reasons, but uh, there are indeed also reasons uh, which are linked to the way how the west has been providing the major support of over the last let's a few months. and it has been unfortunately too slow. but on the other hand to, of course, you can use facing a very different to a military situation. i'll meet these come to revise these that has nothing to do with last year. uh, some of the main features has been already mentioned to give them the fact that to a battlefields have the mind, the front lines have been 45. so richard has been preparing accordingly for discount defensive with right now. what's your credit is trying to do some the one hand to, of course, create a situation where a military break to would be possible in one of the several directions of the
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counter offensive. the 2nd thing is that discount or offensive has a window of opportunity until probably of the periods of october, november, so it has to be conducted with all possible means a disposal. and the 3rd point, which i think is going to be a game changer, is whether the west will provide some of the critical military 8 that it has pledged such as me. so system send f sixteens were 4 or 540 days into this war. do you see an end to the conflict happening any time soon? i um, unfortunately, i don't have any good news for you and for the audience. give, give them this question of the to ration of the war. in fact, we may see a window of opportunity for, let's say, uh, some serious tools. um,
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i wouldn't say negotiation process, but it least some serious stokes, probably not already or then october november this year. then the political pressure from outside, given the election campaigns in the united states, but also makes your europe who's having the elementary you can pull them and terry and elections is going to become higher. so we may see this window of opportunity. but the war of attrition will continue, unfortunately in the next few years, most likely, even in the period of to 2025. i'm sorry. yeah. so bring analysis or a geo political strategist finding a check or of of joining us from vienna. thank you for joining us on today. thank you very much. the west african block eco last says it's ready to launch a military intervention in the share should diplomatic efforts to reverse
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a coo there fail? defense chiefs from the block has the meeting in ghana to address the crisis. the shares routing john to has repeatedly defied international efforts to restore president mohammed assumed to office last week eco as ordered the act to deactivation of a stand by force for potential deployment. in nature, across military, those are facing a dilemma. use force and risk crease, the instability or back off and allow another west african nation to be under miller. people the block, the does have once again emphasize that on the dimension in the chair is a last resort. let's do one being that everything is phase the video and forces both with stuff that move the military on disobedience
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components are ready to sub, to the portal of beauty. 5 of the level constitution. the saw this meeting to be best testimony to the but when and how west african troops could intervene, remains i'm care. you guys, one has already ignored an echo and was deadline to restore democracy. meanwhile, the allstate, president mohammed by zoom and his family are under house arrest in the capital in the army echo was have called on the pool leaders to release the president. yet another demand rejected by new jersey, new rulers in front of the i'll use the postage, the president. no one. and let me repeat no,
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what do you see that steve is not only the future of new jersey and democracy, but also the credibility of echo was on the block is running out of time and options for restore constitutional order in new jersey. now also last thing is last thing is director of the so health program for germany's conrad and our foundation. he's based in the navy and capital by my code book joins us tonight from hamburg here in germany. oh, thanks for joining us on the day. now. the language we heard today from echo last ministry chiefs was pretty clear. we're going into the share, they said, but come echo with echo s actually back up their words with action. why i, if she wished out, say able to, to photo some action, what they're saying is being talking for now for 2 weeks, for military intervention and get as far as they want to assemble, still exist only on paper. and which is they really have time enough to ask
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themselves, you know, all major on the units a back into courses. so i really don't hold e commerce engineering for easily. you reach a situation like and so don't really have basic assumable. how much time do you think it would actually take to set it up on the, at least a month? i mean, you know, it is members, states talk about committing troops, but you know, do still have to do so. there's also a coordination issue at night, generally out as a physician and sorry and then julia. but as you know, and then as they do speak english and the rest of the e commerce members, most the talker falls on is not a coordination. and you know, even was only has to ends in perfect sounds where they may actually invite you to, you know. ready so i just don't see it happening right. well, meanwhile, new jersey to leaders remain
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a pretty defiant so is the country's army solidly behind them? i mean, they make progress, you know, pointing and commodities funky units also winning by ends on the special causes. you know, we're chatting by the main counter pods for, for western countries. you know, co racial, pardon, most price fixing to purchase, but maybe this one on the unit was that it was bouncing back to the originally metro it to use this approach is on there. and if i come for the positions and they noticed that's my guess, all defiant. right, well we've seen no in the chair at large gatherings in support of visual and to often with people showing russian flags to does the to enjoy the backing of most new sharon's it's, it's very difficult to say, i mean the 1st day there was a protest photo stuff on his own. the also, the president can be seen all these russian blacks. i mean, they're kind of,
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they're basically the people, you know, groups rush distributing these flags. so it's not necessarily on file rushed out, but it seems they've been able to mobilize the streets by saying these things. that's why you cross ebc compose by for an hour such as crowns and their west african egos. so dutch as a pound, the ready to bips, you know, people behind the bushes. right, well indeed here you were just mentioning there, the sanctions this year has already been hit by a financial and economic blockade by many of its neighbors. now, germany's foreign minister is quoting for you, sanctions against the coordinators? do you think it would be actually effective? and no, i don't to be seen as in mommy. yeah. good old are really tough. this financially, sanctions against june to log, you know, doing elections and they manage to use, you know, the probably getting a hold of the sanctions do. what would i support?
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and i think it's the same thing. you know what the purchase they're going to do. they will be back by, you know, for russia, in the social media campaigns disinformation campaign. so it gets a good chance, you know, sanctions the actually back fire. all right, well, considering that, did you think these hairs democratically elected now deposed, president mohammed presume will actually be resort to power anytime soon? no, i don't think it's too long. it's, it's 3 weeks, almost a months and he's being under house arrest. no one has come to rescue him, no army of police unit and he might be lost, reinstalled. and then unlike the case of a mandatory invention, he won't be in a very weak position. i mean, you will be based, you have interest to buy farm nation in that book immediately. you're not sure. he got another call. i think he's gone and we have to be honest, the talk to you to purchase are going to stay right. thank you for your analysis of
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last thing from germany's conrad add in our foundation. 7080 years ago today, engine easier declared independence from dutch colonial rule, but it was to be another 4 years of a brutal wore it before the netherlands finally agreed to hand over power not violent period and indignation. history continues to cast a shadow today. the netherlands only recently begun paying damages to the children of indonesians executed by dutch soldiers dw correspondent rebecca. not be too too low. mad. one not whose final memory about his father is that of him being shot. a years ago, rush dissolution started to decline. he suffered from cataracts, but didn't have enough money for a surgery. that change last year when, who received 5000 euros from the dutch government. the money was compensation for
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a massacre committed during indonesia as war of independence. in 1947, almost all the meals and the village of all good. they were murdered by dutch troops. one of them was russ, these father. rusty was just 6 years old at the time. and i do, i didn't but ask that. and my father was on his way from the jung left ascending price. he had his own business and yeah, he was killed on his way back. i was with my mother was home someone. so that is that my father had been shots. why do you have love hour? if that's a lot more than $400.00 men, i believe to has been killed that day. only a 181 bodies were found there remains are buried in this graveyard. dedicated to the victims, including rusty's father, the historian on the hon has been following the settlement negotiation closely. she
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says it took far too long for the netherlands to acknowledge its crimes, but sees a payment of damages to the victims. children as an important just or tortured conciliation. i must them, i can't connect. it's too little too late in the sense that many people from the 1st generation have passed away leave me in the 2nd and 3rd generation, their grandchildren. i think this recognition is an important step, not only to ensure the welfare of the family members, but also to emphasize that what the grandparents data was important for the nation building process. and when they had to continue the process mission, building the amount of money that the victims get, cannot do justice for what history has taken from them by rusty, at least has made peace with his pass. i have found on them. i don't hold any grudge against adults what has happened. let it be in the past to that video. well, that pass going to be change. neither under recognition of follow good. the
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sacrifice written on the wall behind the grief yard are the words as the heal on do at that belong to die or live with on. or there is no other choice. that's all for the day. i'm pablo solely. as in berlin, thanks for watching. we'll see you another day the
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on d. w. the the . this is the w news live from berlin. germany. prepare is to buy an advance to missile defense system. the us proves israel sale of arrow 3 interceptors to shoot down high altitude missiles as a germany 6 to build a sky shield in response to russia's attack on ukraine. also on the program west african leaders meet again to consider a military intervention in the shares group. those sanctions are hurting the economy. they're also increasing support for the ministration and serve.

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