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or 2 days since russian forces invaded ukraine, unleashing one of the bloodiest conflicts on european soil since world war 2. for months now, ukraine has been trying to claw back. it's occupied territories, but progress has been slow and costly. for many, it's also been disappointing. russia, meanwhile, has assumed a mostly defensive pastor, behind a dense and deadly web of mine, fields and fortifications. both sides are bleeding, and the question now is which army and which society will prove more resilient on popular felony? yes, this is the day. the regions in the world are being tested by geopolitical competition by climate crisis, by pressures or progression against you find the combat situation shows that you crane has already exhausted it's us and it was under the pretext of supporting g
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the united states. let's analyze use of the weapons and promises to deliver cheap new was the week of slide twice. i guess that pressures, advice to, you know, kind of fall off. it says, fundamentally, if russia stopped the war and uh, we'll start to read this relationship with the west fundamental and this, what can help also coming up facing defiant qu, leaders in the share military chief of the west african block eco, was our drawing of a plan of action if diplomacy fails, they say they're ready to march into each year to restore it's deposed president the, the, the, the, the,
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the full width boot this rate to the to our viewers on p b. s. in the united states and all around the world. welcome to the program. we begin the day on the front line in southern ukraine, where the country's military says it's pushing russian forces farther back after retaking a village on wednesday. the 1st settlement to keep says it's liberated since late july. ukraine is trying to find the build momentum in a counter offensive lasting months that's gotten bogged down in russian line fields and fortifications. keith also said it's given up on receiving us made at 16 jets any time this year. ukraine had been pressing its western allies for the war plains, which it hoped could help protect its cities from russian, bombardments, which have become an almost daily occurrence. what ukraine these confirm it's
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getting is more state of the art air defense. a terminate iris peace systems have already proven their worth in defending the capital keeps from russian airstrikes, but those are now increasingly targeting other ukranian cities in award that's being grinding on for 17 months. we have this report, a shell is loaded into an american how it's a cannon. this is the front line of ukraine's counter offensive. since june, the army has been pushing back from active positions that extends more than 1200 kilometers. and despite the supply of weapons from the west, they're only making limited progress with limited power and its forces stretched thin. but even small advances could turn out to be technically significant. this week ukrainian troops on the south eastern front
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claimed to have retaken the small village of roshana, located within a 150 kilometers of the ports of russia occupied mary, you pull and buddy ends. and if you cry and where to take those cities, the land bridge that connects crimea to russia through occupied ukraine would be broken. but getting through heavily fortified russian lines won't be easy. they'll need to cross the open fields which are extensively mind, where they also run the risk of attacks from the f and russian troops behind the tree line. and if they make it that fall next, they'll face and elaborate mays of trenches and metal and concrete empty tank defenses, known as dragon's teeth. still small advances by either side will reduce the capabilities of the other rush. i recently intensified that separation in the northeast, drawing ukrainian forces away from most strategic areas in the southeast. now
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ukraine is making gains on that front, forcing moscow's military to be deployed. but the to and fro cannot continue in its current form for long as autumn and modest season fast approaches. when oil tanks will be stopped in the tracts until spring to all since western countries began supplying weapons to ukraine, russian media have played time their importance in the war. this week. russia's defense ministry paraded, captured, western made weapons on state television. the propaganda show came during a security conference which moscow is using to project strength. it's not the middle of every afternoon or what the viewers are informed about the war. but i see this live show broadcast by russia state television. it's called 60 minutes, right, and the exclusive tag in the top left corner suggest today's program will be an exciting one. the topic confiscated western weapons and ukraine who i mean, what's the last step of political praise?
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here we can see the australian bush muster armored vehicles of transporting soldiers, whom we still have got to have said. it's completely burned, tied up. that's a watch. and the vehicle was seized. what you're doing? fighting. you're the village of polio and the next public on. yeah, i'm not on that. have you spoken to you about lago? that's what russian propaganda calls the occupied territories in ukraine. like watching the trophies are present during the army. 2023 military exhibitions and the patriot parking gorbinko on the outskirts of moscow. often, liability suggests this, we have them here, you can see obviously a french car, much as you can see from the flag. the reason why you buckled, suffice actually in a good condition is not less than you know, but we can see that it's being picked by a bullitt or that means that harbor that's quite weak right now. that way we can talk, okay. it's something russia likes to claim that western military technology cannot withstand the rigors of fighting and ukraine. hundreds of items are on display and
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could be good to prove this from finland, sweden, france, australia, and the united states. and each time the flaws are highlighted is whether or not it's a tactic also used by moscow is top military brass knew the it's here, russian defense minister circuit showing who plays down ukraine's military strength for traditional speaking at the international security summit in moscow. it shows as though a $160.00 corners are on the issue, the georgia by reducing the park as of the combat situation shows that that ukraine has already exhausted into us. and also by major, is it your share under the pretext of supporting keith? whereas the united states lets its allies use up the weapons and promising to deliver cheap new one of these rules. and in fact, they're trying to sell their own new minute treat products. and then your costs go into promotional complex managers and it's not showing you also admits that russia
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so called special military operation. it is a serious challenge for its armed forces right next to carefully avoiding the term war and then as required by russian law. most of these are put back on this special edition of 60 minutes. there's no such problem is that provide from the presenter uses the word several times as he shows office boyles of russia's invasion, double, and to suppose the weakness of the west. a more than sullen as well. joining us from vienna is very natural rosa who is a g o strategic consultant, a former director of the australian institute for european and security policy. thanks for joining us on the day. now we've just seen 2 sides of russia's war in ukraine, the brutal fighting on the front and rushes parade of that captured western gear on television. so let's start with the russian side. are many russians so far removed from the conflict that it's just a t v war for most as well. yes, absolutely. and will it be seen also into, for each uh, shows uh,
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collision lead um you know, part of for the, a psychological warfare that for sure has been successfully conducting st. you will receive a war of attrition, ease of perfectly serving russian interest. so they are obviously prepared for this scenario quite well and to well, the aim with this scenario for of attrition is on the one hand, as we've also hard to exhaust ukrainian troops a. but the other hand, of course, also to create a situation where a possible political ritual full, who happen in europe. because this war has many layers and next to the layer of the battlefields, there is the layer of that you cannot make warfare on europe. and will keep clearly observed here is that russia has now successfully conducted the blockade on the black sea area. one that aims to create an additional commodities,
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a crisis scenario for the upcoming winter. and we should be also prepared for a scenario which, which i may try again to play the energy card next to the fluids commodities. so all you know here what we are seeing is, uh trisha has adapted to the realities, given the fact that it has not been successful with the 1st space of the war. and at the same time, it says that ukraine has conducted successful come through a face to face count or physics in the past. so right right now the russian perspective is to make everything possible to slow down this concert offensive by the korean forces and 2 possible prevent it from a further success. as we have to contrast all of this with the devastation in ukraine to force the practically the entire population is feeling. so we've been seeing the resilience of ukrainian society since the start of this war. but how is
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it actually affected them? especially if considered that there appears to be no end in sight to this concept. even with no clear end to this war. oh, the credit society and the political leadership show wavering spirit. let's be clear about one thing and that is that this war is also about the will to fight. and here we see that on both sides for different reasons. there is still a will to fight. now, what is the king and perspective from ukraine's point of view? there only 2 options in this war since the beginning of sue's the launch of the war . and these 2 options are either seating for the territories and population under russian control. right now, the risk controls around 17 percent of the cleaning territory. and we've seen in the past what happened with the territories and the population and the russian occupation. and the 2nd option is to continue fighting for additional integrity for
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the survival of the nation. so we clearly see a prevailing sentiment to fight for the survival of ukraine as a nation to claim as a territory and ukraine as a state. do you see a cranes forces find the gaining momentum then in their push sides? yes, absolutely. we are currently in the most active face of these particular accounts are offensive. the counter offensive has begun very slowly for many obvious reasons . now is not the time to discuss that of these reasons, but uh, there are indeed also reasons uh, which are leading to the way how the west has been providing the major support of over the last uh, let's say few months and it has been unfortunately too slow, but on the other hand to of course you credit is facing a very different to
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a military situation. a meet these come to her 1st. if that has nothing to do with last year. uh, some of the main features has been already mentioned, given the fact that to a battlefields have the mind, the front lines has been 40 fights. the original has been preparing accordingly for discount defensive with right now, which crane is trying to do some the one hand to of course create a situation where a military break to would be possible in one of the several directions of the counter offensive. the 2nd thing is that discount or offensive has a window of opportunity until probably of the periods of october, november. so it has to be conducted with all possible means a disposal and the torch point, which i think is going to be a game changer, is whether the west will provide some of the critical military 8 that it has pledged such as me. so systems and f sixteens were 4 or
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540 days into this war. did you see an end to the conflict happening any time soon? i um, unfortunately, i don't have any good news. so for you and for the audience, give, give them this question of the to ration of the war. in fact, we may see a window of opportunity for, let's say, uh, some serious tools. um, i wouldn't say negotiation process, but it least some serious stokes, probably not already or then october november this year. then the political pressure from outside, given the election campaigns in the united states, but also makes your europe who's having the elementary. you can pull them and terry and elections is going to become higher. so we may see this window of opportunity. but the war of attrition will continue unfortunately in the next few years.
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most likely, even in the period of to 2025. sorry. yeah. so bring analysis there as you political strategist, finding a check or of, of joining us from vienna. thank you for joining us on today. thank you very much. the west african block eco last says it's ready to launch a military intervention in the share should diplomatic efforts to reverse a coo there fail? defense chiefs from the block of the meeting in ghana to address the crisis. the shares routing john to has repeatedly defied international efforts to restore president mohammed assumed to office last week eco, as ordered the act to deactivation of a stand by force for potential deployment. in the share of the costs, military leaders are facing a dilemma. use force and risk crease, the instability or back off and allow another west african nation to be under
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miller. people the block he does have once again emphasized that on the dimension in the chair is a last resort. let's do one be in the every. busy this phase, the beauty and forces, both with stuff that move the military on disobedience components are ready to sub, to the portable duty 5 of the level constitution. the saw this meeting to be best testimony to the but when and how rest applicant troops could intervene, remains unclear. new jersey has already ignored an echo and was deadline to restore democracy. meanwhile, the allstate president mohammed buzzle and his family are under house arrest in the
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capital in the army eco was have called on the pool leaders to release the president. yet another demand rejected by new jersey, new rulers. it printed the image. i'll use a web page that precedent. no one. and let me repeat no, what do you see? that's the is not only the future of new jersey and democracy, but also the credibility of echo was on the block is running out of time and options for historical on seduce new order in new jersey to now also last thing is, last thing is director of the so health program for germany's conrad add in our foundation. he's based in the navy and capital by my code book joins us tonight from hamburg here in germany. oh, thanks for joining us on the day. now. the language we heard today from ankle last
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ministry chiefs was pretty clear. we're going into the share, they said put con, echo with echo s actually back up their words with action. why? if she wished out, say able to, to photo some action, what they're saying is being talking for now for some 2 weeks of military intervention and get this fall. so you want to assemble still exist only on paper in the purchase. they really have time enough to ask themselves, you know, or major on the units affecting decreases. so i really don't hope just because it doesn't mean for easily you reach a situation that can sit down when we have basic assumable. how much time do you think it would actually take to set it up on the, at least a month? i mean, you know, the member states talk about committing troops, but you know, do still have to do so. there's also a coordination issue that night,
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generally out as a physician and sorry and then julia. but as you know, and then as they do speak english and the rest of the e commerce members, most the talker falls on is not a coordination. and you know, if it was only has to, i was in perfect sounds very my actually invited to, you know. ready so i just don't see it happening right. well, meanwhile, new jersey to leaders remain at pretty defiance. so is the countries are me and solidly behind them? i mean, they make progress, you know, pointing and commodities funky units, also, winning, buying in songs. he is especially pauses. you know, we're chatting by the main content pots for, for western countries. you know, corporation, pardon, must price fixing to purchase, but maybe this one on the unit was the, it was bouncing back to the our vending metrowood to use visit purchased on there. and if i come funded positions and they noticed that's my guess on the defiant
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right. well we've seen no in the chair at large gatherings in support of visual into often with people showing russian flags to does the to enjoy the backing of most new sharon's. it's, it's very difficult to say, i mean, the 1st day there was a protest photo stuff on his own. the also, the president can be seen all these russian flags. i mean, they're kind of, they're basically the people, you know, groups, russia, distributing these flags. so it's not necessarily on file rushing up, but it seems they've been able to mobilize the streets by saying these things. that's why you cross ebc compose by for an hour such as crowns and their west african egos. so dutch as a pound, the ready to bips, you know, people behind the bushes. right, well indeed here you were just mentioning there, the sanctions this year has already been hit by a financial and economic blockade by many of its neighbors. now,
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germany's foreign minister is quoting for you, sanctions against the coordinators? do you think it would be actually effective and no adult to be seen as an mommy? yeah. go, don't ever really tough this financially. sanctions against a job or you know, doing elections and they manage to use, you know, they probably can't get a hold of the sanctions do. what would i support? and i think it's the same thing. you know, what do you purchased? they're going to do. it will be back by, you know, russia in the social media campaigns disinformation campaign, so it gets a good chance, you know, sanctions that actually verify. all right, well considering beth, how did you think of these hairs democratically elected now deposed, president mohammed bassoon will actually be restored to power anytime soon? no, i don't think it's too long. it's, it's 3 weeks. so even though almost a months and he's been in the house arrest, no one has come to rescue him, no ami,
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a police unit and he might be lost, reinstalled. and then unlike the case of a military invention, he won't be in a very weak position. i mean, you will be based, you haven't been rescued by farm nation that, that, but immediately, you know, tre got another call. i think he's going to be, have to be honest, the talk to you the purchase are going to stay. right. thank you for your analysis . of last thing from germany's conrad in our foundation of the 78 years ago today, indonesia declared independence from dutch colonial rule. but it was to be another 4 years of a brutal war before the netherlands finally agreed to hand over power. that violent period in indonesian history continues to cast a shadow today. the netherlands only recently begun paying damages to the children
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of indonesians executed by dutch soldiers. date of new correspondence. rebecca, not be too too low. mad. one not whose final memory about his father is that of him being shot years ago, russ distribution started to decline. he suffered from cataracts, but didn't have enough money for a surgery. that change last year when, who received 5000 euros from the dutch government. the money was compensation for a massacre committee, drew in indonesia some more of independence. in 1947, almost all the meals and the village of all good. they were murdered by dutch troops. one of them was rusty's father. rusty was just 6 years old at the time and i do, i didn't, but as that and my father was on his way from the jung left ascending price. he had his own business and yeah, he was killed on his way back. was with my mother at home. someone said that if the
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my father had been shots, why do you have love hour? if that time last isn't more than 400 men are believe to has been killed that day. only a $181.00 bodies were found there remains are buried in this graveyard dedicated to the victims, including rusty's father. the historian on the hon has been following the settlement negotiation closely. he says it took far too long for the netherlands to acknowledge its crimes, but sees a payment of damages to the victims children as an important just or tortured conciliation. i must them, i can't connect. it's too little too late in the sense that many people from the 1st generation have passed away, leave me in the 2nd and 3rd generation, their grandchildren. i think this recognition is an important step, not only to ensure the welfare of the family members, but also to emphasize that what the grandparents data was important for the nation
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building process. and when i got to continue the process mission, building the amount of money that the victims get, cannot do justice for what history has taken from them by rusty, at least has made peace with his pass. i found on them. i don't hold any grudge against adults what has happened. let it be in the past to that video data. well that pass going to be change neither kind of record mission or follow good. the sacrifice written on the wall behind the grief yard are the words as the heal on do at that belong to die or live with on, or there is no other choice. that's all for the day on pablo, solely as in berlin, thanks for watching. we'll see you another day the
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