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around the world, more than 160000000 people in west village. we ask why? because no one should have to make up your own mind. me for mines. hi guys, my name is i do go and this is really a flighty and you are watching this of instead of the bus and on dw total about africa. so keep watching, besides hello and welcome to the 77 percent the whole life because youth, it's not always easy to document or experiences will share our thoughts. today's show is about what happens when you write to talk or pine is suppressed. in nearly
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40 percent of african countries, independent media observe is classify the situation of press freedom of difficult. so today we're focusing on freedom of expression and how young people are fighting for their voices to be hired. i want you kamara. well come, coming up. we made a journalist from uganda, k. yeah. and gotten us what tell us about the chinese is the face to bring it in you know it's 50 base in dfcs dw building need it for us. we tackle the journal using buses, us citizen debate, and we wrap up in leaving story. zombie is cultural jammed list. we need to and he's now freedom of speech may sound like a dry topic, but it's anything but to, especially for the youth, we are the driving force behind change after all. so let's take this show off with
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a bit of a twist. allow me to introduce you to rap as a dog. oh and amelia, flying from nat ruby. they are using the musical talents to call up the dangers to the press over to you fellows rough you are right to free don't african. this is what team is important. see the press clear and then to go to add port in this place because that that become a bell press. yeah, that's the absolute good story on phones. this freedom is juggle left on to the fees that operation spreading virtual why fi to the address? they don't show new bought out of 10. you have been countries and studies factorial out of the 3 government control, the fed mediocrity system, check what's on the other. the can you tell me this information propaganda reading,
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you know, communities in this environment. impunity range of the chevy address? i get the number to get the report the, the treatment to bought the duplex don't let me put it in booking the bustle. so he read just totally becoming the no news zone in on the filled him 2nd, done with the new sentence, the getting to present to submit the most sensitive versus the guy's info and networking. in some countries, we came back to a mended meals, dream, you know, like the gun and looking for thing. this is the input team and they do sharing with nice one guys. now alia, we've mentioned that press freedom in almost 40 percent of african countries is going to be that difficult. but did you know that in 2022 is that number was 33
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percent. that means the situation on the continent is deteriorating rapidly. so it's no surprise the more journalist a watching on the cover, including i must remove unless the good may, on investigative journalist has exposed dozens of corruption stories in his country . his multiple name, shame, and jail. his work has divided people some think that it goes to fall while others think it's necessary to hold those in power to account. our very own miko ot caught up with him recently to find out more about the width of his work. and why he does what he does. there are lots of young people who are interested in becoming you like you, i mean, exposing corruption in the countries, but they are of use in the, a lot of challenges. talk to them about some of the risk that investigative
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journalism on the come by investigative journalism faces. nobody should think that coming into gen ed is a, is a bed of roses. it is not going to be attacked. you are going to be suit in the football. it's kind of, i was sued 6 the 6 things. but here's a take. if you stick to had color evidence, know my pet this, you know my past the number of people who show you to will stop. it's all up to making sure that you check your security very well. you don't become trigger happy in just talking and mation and things that you do. you ensure that you follow those simple techniques that i come explaining this interview. but it is difficult. my day is a way of surviving it, and i think that african use has that capacity to survive this. don't, you know, make peace. if we don't solve our problems, we've been to solve i,
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we expect to examine geminus to flight into our country, to help us solve it. such a little across the continental, they have been several journalist 12 in affected who have been killed. would you still encourage the young people to get into this space where people are being killed and you have to hide your face cost monthly because people are coming out to you. certainly, see. we cannot take the freedom of that price for grant. and the fact that you have your freedoms that so mean that you should go to sleep. that is what we ought to be reminded of as game. at least. you see when we become complacent and we thing that that freedom we enjoy, it was delivered to us on this. so my plat that that's when we begin to soften. how do we riley ourselves so that when i, brad, i send that attack. because if you don't shouts to day, tomorrow is coming to you. they will bluish and dental is safety. international
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center. what is that all about? well, what's sick and what's the blue is and then at least 15 to mission. it is in that house, same content, malice who in the face of trouble have no way to vote is a view of the role i play on that one to me. many jim at least will face specification. i'm the 1st point of course, and that will be hosting them for the past 10 years now. so this time i decided that one to official lies so that i can have that payment and show them where these people will come and take some risk by twin beyond their attack and use. and we also have the box on the projects on the iris, on a project in come a room where you are picking up on the story that was covered by a journalist who was murdered. you get your symbol on that. the arizona project is currently mites and this now my team is a colleague. we as it in the ed talking, that's how i talked to him. we went up one morning, he was showed that lucian,
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come up to jenn. i'll let you know that the fact that you've taken down one gen at least, that's no mean that we are sitting down. now we've monday to come together. we've monday to look for resources so that if you killed anybody that is a month away, we will put ourselves together. i lead that dalazana, arizona project and i can tell you is very effective and i bought it from mine. there are several at the gym at least across the well, well, so keen in helping, exposing that bad deeds of people who killed you on my list. now the press freedom situation might seem disheartening, but some progress has been made. and you've gone to, the constitutional court struck down a provision of the computer nice is up. that was seen as the limitation of freedom of speech to but let's talk about how journalists themselves view the state of press freedom and what kind of environment do they work. i will correspondents in
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uganda, kenya, and gonna be of us via perspective. the new gun and sometimes the line between generalization and activities and can be blind. for instance, many mediocre nights visions are owned by politicians with an agenda. now these employee, as i said, is to have it feed inflates on the reporting by the journalist. they have sometimes been criticized politicians in state that you've done at least for being present jordan's have any has previously described private media outlets as enemies, but also some colleagues in the media proficient. how will flip joined touches on politics today. some of the most prominent politicians, both in the government and the opposition, such a different demo with several newspapers in over a $150.00 tavia and regular channels has a pretty diverse media landscape. and well, this hosting politics and media on a ship press here is still relatively free and able to criticize authority. one
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same was kind of an example of an accident. stern list is that the once a photographer who turned to activism after the experience of reports, and i'm kind of post election by those who would let them know and for driving, takes all the way to parliament and putting the words antiques for overindulging, members of parliament and so well put aside from the powers that be, may not be easy and tenure costs at many turn. let's take on corruption by politicians and political peace out. it's a major problem in gonna it's affects the ordinary pressing for life for trouble. it's all good. good policy halls, good quality education, and many more now reporting about this issue father, due to of jen, i live and that's what's his doctor for getting 10 at least not really a one now started early on in this car. yeah. for about 2 decades ago. i guess a concrete evidence to prosecute such a fish out. nancy has to go on the combat. you didn't have to come in at least in
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doing that. but i'm not that corruption activity is what he said by governments with some public official letterhead anatomy. all this days, and if it so now known gradstaff unless hasn't become just a multi media documentary, myka box now and leaving activities for the ordinary people. look up to for sundays, and protecting them from the girls and abuse this. and it's always interesting to hear those insights from the ground. now it's additional journalism is hyper focused on the notion of objectivity. but some practitioners argue that in the face of injustice, that can be no objectivity. so they openly choose to be activists within the media for you, you know, a street debate 8 if you money, endo pano tackle this scene line between journalism and activism and it's costing it really undermines. press integrity,
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the hello and welcome back to the 77 percent. 3 debate this week, we and the, the in africa, nor on the streets. we have home to the global media for, i'm one of the leading medium forums globally. it's mostly correct for those of you who live in africa, the media spaces are usually either not 3 or independence. and for that reason, sometimes it's a false to do a work that they did not sign up for activities. so today, but we ask, where is that line if there is one in africa between journalism and activism? and today i have a girl just found out here with me, look at those applicant, kind of a not less talked with you. what is activism? gen amazon puts you in that speech sway you get into activism, not because you want, but you find yourself in that speaks. so what's the difference? i that kind of, gen,
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i live them. i do is naming shaming and gaming. and it works because i managed to get people into jail and that continental people, what, what do you need to do as a result of that? which i do so you can call me, i must have missed. but i do my jen allison and did death deals into activities. how do you define yourself? so do you see yourself more as an activist or as a junior? i see myself as i'm active, it's because of the end product that i get. okay, we want to do you find yourself into situations as well where you're what sort of to places you in situations that you didn't necessarily sign up for? um yes, i do. and i absolutely refuse that tag activist. i am shy away from me to i run away from me why? because there's different types of activities and i think you feel no play the type of activity. so you all you do. that's when you do get into trouble. you are you done activities based on your personal conviction? all your pronounce that activities by your job, all by the governments of the day who's upset about what you're doing. people can
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also be active is because of the tension on the call on me, and they have to perform a new ways. activism ask jo, nineties, and then finally i think people from the activities during that if somebody activities also of greed because it's of a read. yes. correct. like i said, so i said what i said, okay, unless you have something to add to that. and i totally disagree with the thing because i think that she's not looking at the dean just we fees. there's no point in doing that piece of gentlemen. somebody gets him up and what came up on the same street with that criminal. i see, i will take you to deal. i testify, i should have called everything. we don't become active. it's because we love a demo of them. it's not a tea party. it's a serious business, i do have your rebuttal. i have to say, i look activism from the perspective of the don't tell the drill nineties what's cubes for being a drug. and so i know the 1st time what i mean, my own father was fuel 15 years ago for being a drone on his he wasn't even on investigating john and so you can even get killed
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for being a call. them is a part of the. yeah, but i have another female, i'm always watching my box. nobody knows i was coming to a button, for example, i just show up when i pull stuff down social media. well, i'd say these to say when you mix these activities in the problem is that home we see it means it's no longer. i'm not, i'm not serious. i do not identify as one i will never identify as well. can you tell me why? i mean, this is something that is very deep. you said you do you like like sort of like just oh yeah, just in the via large the. 7 so i will say that you kind of do johnny's investors, impactful. going by the book. i need to still in fact from, i'm an example of that. when i did call dean, people were very happy with being changed. but guess what? that was. so people that came to see i was paid by a foreign government because i, my son's name is jeremiah. you will always be called an activities which are the way you do your journalism and are in with spend. they don't. oh yes,
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because if i was doing the full day and for example, my name would that be which in visibility to brittany and to be so for what we're gonna take away. if somebody doesn't go to do it, does it take away from the work that she did? it doesn't take away a lot of people want to spend too much, but yeah, so i'm not really know why, but i'm saying my brother and i'm talking about the work that made my mother have 50, made my brother perhaps a few with the front of me i have a 6 i'm, i'm going to say change came and i do, i have different lives. i've been change parks where opened offices were opened into port co dean lead jobs. what am i supposed to go home to meet where we had not said that, well, that's not change, then my name is not bruno. so i'd like to hear from you all based on the what we've heard here today. do you still believe that these, that line between journalism and activism, or have you shifted a little bit? there is a line i maintained that there is a line. and for me, what would be important is that transpired and see that we know which side you're on. if you're a journalist and you, once you're an activist, your general list,
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whichever hot you putting on, that's what's about time. that is, b p a to your audience. so to have a listening to you because of the media, present it, or they've done on this. you have so much power this to me for looking at to listening to you some even how you want to evaluate like everything is they. they take it as it is. yeah. okay. almost. yeah, that's fine. um, yes, my own point is we will keep evolving as human beings, right. so as journal is those activities as advocates, gary, the end goal is change, but it's also shown whatever changes we're trying to drive for. well, in looking at the next generation old, going to people who are thinking, so put me into journalism. i think what drives use key for and has it felt like it's appalling, like this is like, i must be, you're in jail for room doesn't have seen do, but you have to just expose the story of what you was coming in to read. you need to ask yourself, why are you tell me what the apple is of the out was because yes, so good job. you'll be nominated for an emmy. yeah, but that's not like it is because at the end of it there's no need to have gone
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tables to sleep with. we've had done a lease. we know awards. i'm lose piece. yeah. the cost the story didn't feel and right, so we don't know what you want to know what, what's happening, story about the floods that it doesn't stick, right? so i don't actually going personally deciding, okay, i like to see people in general. so i'm going to enjoy it, become a journalist. i love people don't like i'm not gonna be great on top of my face. that's what you want to do, then what you need to consider. why? yeah. what's to what extent do you need to be on this that you like the attention of the i put needs or you know what i'm going to do these because of the right thing to do for myself. i is motivation being the can i call your getting it for you? good. all right, well now, so for me, i mean, what i thought i quoted me was like, let's get just, i had a brother who was i might be. so that was what motivated me wasn't any of what i think the, i mean was going to call. yeah. but for me, more important is the solution we need to about from the tv shows about this the big spring. so you know, practices user in practice. so i want to see eddie told us 26 people don't, but we don't see jo 90 older ladies don't people to engage and they just say you're
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not cvc. don't know what to do. john is in the younger ones should be, i'm not supposed to be in the middle because i'm not young, but i'm not just heading out so i feel we should try to overcome distributions. activism is not a bond was, is not something that we kind of speak about what she says. let's be transparent. let's try to avoid putting all right in our cells, because the audience sees the proof. i've done these governments already doing that . now guys, the news is your right, an us last but not least. so i lance, part of my journalism, the gym, and i dream then that went out by rough. i know that was seamless and that coverage . and i've also learned from the b, b, z all come apart from that. the due date, code of ethics guides me as i work. so at the end of the day, i believe that we should ask ourselves the question. when we get seen twice, piece of that, how do i ensure that i get people up? and so jen, again, i see you full training. i see the youth and i want to emphasize that the
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advertising group, i was tired of the roots in system. yeah. and they want to see a change. yeah. and if we wanted flicking partners or not, various countries, then we have to move towards more activism and i don't see any line of them and activities on us. thank you so so much. thank you to audience at the beginning of this debates, we us a very simple question. where is the line between activism and journalism? and as one of the people here said, it's just public health when you try to find the sun. thank you all to a lovely audience here. thank you to kind of move and the usual. thank you for your panelists for that insightful debate. as always, you can check out the long of lesson of that debate or know a youtube channel and speaking of channels, you left us a few comments on our facebook page, telling us what press freedom means to you,
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or the flash to an is party slot, p campbell, who sees press freedom is not press freedom when the use of it abuse it. the jays have become journalist, social media. we thought verification has become a source of news. the 2nd comment from sallie barry and new sees, i don't like, nor do i take news, you know, a country seriously because it is propaganda and they don't address the issues. time king george fees, every country has a short it citizens, freedom of speech. it's actually the freedom after the speech that is not available . and the last comment for today's show is from emmanuel coy, receive press freedom is important because this is the only way, time or opportunity you have to read slot issues of national and international concern. thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts. we always appreciate it. now press freedom is
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a very important topic, but it's a lot to take in. so we're going to wind down with the visit to livingstone in zambia. and we'd go to a very on to a guide. okay. claudia was found to, to show us around, prepared to be blown away by the smoke. that event is, which is what the locals called the great victoria falls. i'm sure livingstone will, will you with its people, nature and history enjoy. i miss the beach. claudia was sunday. the 25 year old arrived in livingston 5 years ago. she wants to become the 1st to female safari guide from her village. and livingston is not just that beautiful my capital, but also its tourism hub. named off the scottish explorer and the missionary doctor
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david livingston, the 1st european to see and document the impressive victoria falls in 18. 55. ok. at least obvious, most famous sight. cloutier takes us to the age of this m b, the river. this is called the pointed part of the world, the spot for young loved to get to gauge. so insomnia, and is this for the victoria? we have a lot of really uninstalled and simple reason. every a and it's really amazing to see because that it's one of the 7 that's one of the walls. on average, 1000000 liters of water cascade down, victoria falls every single 2nd. this she, a spectacle evokes a sense of o and one to locally though they are known as most see what to for the smoke that
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fund. and i believe when i went on the next stuff, these livingston's very old national talk, just 10 minutes drive from the city center. we meet some of the cloud. you as the most special friends, the highly endangered white or square lipped rhinoceros. once thousands of ryan knows one to the plains of this empty easy river, but poaching has decimated them. numbers today, the livingston, ryan, those are so precious that they are called to 247. this is the only place in the country, livingstone, where you get to see the rhino. so during call read, we had through newborn babies. and now we've got females, 2 of them, which i expecting the numbers that multiplying. it's really, really good news from protecting africans. most endangered animals to hosting
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a having the southern african trade hub and to being the gateway to one of the world's most famous sites. livingston has it all. and that's what i saw for this week. we've shown you how young off weekends are using different forms of story tending to make the voices hot and report on what's happening around them. have they inspired you to do something similar. we'd love to hear your stories to connect with those on social media. you can find the 77 percent on youtube, instagram and now on take talk. you know, the deal by now. i'm going to leave you with something we'll be with it for. here is some of the great. we've had truck energy featuring nadeem, d, b, c. thanks so much for watching and catch you in a late to show bye for now. realize all the time we lose the allies of the read space for them and then i'd be my gosh,
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