this is this guy, this is with a lot say will crazy. the hi guys, my name is i do go and this is really a fly any. and you are watching this of instead of the bus and on dw total about africa. so keep watching this out. hello and welcome to the 77 percent the whole life because youth, it's not always easy to document or experienced as well share our thoughts. today's show is about what happens when you write to talk or pine is suppressed. in nearly 40 percent of african countries, independent media observe is classify the situation of press freedom of difficult.

so today we're focusing on freedom of expression and how young people are fighting for their voices to be hired. i want you kamara. well come is coming up. we may, june the lease from uganda k. yeah. and done us what tell us about the challenges they face to bring it in in almost 50 base mbc a do globally need to for us we tackle the drivers and buses us as into the base. and we wrap up in the living story. zombie is cultural jammed list with a nature and he's now freedom of speech may sound like a dry topic, but it's anything but especially for the youth, we are the driving force behind change after all. so let's take this show off with a bit of a twist. allow me to introduce you to rap as a dog. oh, and i'm really

a fleming from nairobi. they are using the musical talents to call up the dangers to the press. over to you fellows, rob, you're right to free, don't a team. it's important to see them as well. yes. and then to go to add port in this place because that become a bell. so yeah, that's the absolute good story. and phones just read them is juggle left on to the phase. that operation is reading through wi fi to the address shown you bought out of 27 countries and studies fucked. 40 out of the that is 3 government control . the page mediocrity says check what's on the other, the can you send me stuff? this information propaganda spreading, you know, communities in this environment. impunity range at the chevy address that you're

getting before. does it really mean to bother you clicked on the part that didn't booking the bus so? so he read just slowly becoming the no new zone in on the program. taken down with the new sentence, the getting present to submit the most sensitive forces advisors in this guy's info and networking. in some countries we came to amended meals, dream, you know, like the gun and looking for thing. this is the infotainment which indeed do nice. one guys, now i live, we mentioned the press freedom in almost 40 percent of african countries is going see that difficult. but did you know that in 2022 is that number was 33 percent. that means the situation on the continent is deteriorating rapidly. so it's no

surprise that's more journalist, a watching on the cover, including on us, are in mail on us. the good may, on investigative journalist, has exposed dozens of corruption stories in his country, his multiple name, shame, and jail. his work has divided people some think that it goes to fall while others think it's necessary to hold those in power to account. our very own michael ot caught up with him recently to find out more about the width of his work and why he does what he does. that lots of young people who are interested in becoming you like you. i mean, exposing corruption in the countries, but they are of use in the a lot of telling this talk to them about some of the risk that investigative journalism on the come by investigative journalism faces. nobody. sure thing that

coming into general as a is a bed of roses, it is not going to be attacked. you are going to be suit in the football is kind of, i was sued 6 or 6 things. but here's a trick. if you stick to had color everything, know my pet this, you know my past the number of people who shoot to, well, it's time, it's all up to making sure that you check your security very well. you don't become think i have the in just talking and mation and things that you do. you ensure that you follow those simple techniques that i come explaining this interview, but it is difficult. my day is a way of surviving it. and i think that african use has that capacity to survive this don't. in any case, if we don't solve our problems, we've been to solve i, we expect to examine geminus to flight into our country, to help us solve it. such

a little across the continental, they have been several journalist 12 in affected who have been killed. would you still encourage the young people to get into this space where people are being killed and you have to hide your face? cost monthly because people are coming out to you. certainly see, we cannot take the freedom of that price for grant. and the fact that you have your freedoms that so mean that you should go to sleep. that is what we ought to be reminded of as game at least you see when we become complacent and we think that that freedom we enjoy it was delivered to us on this. so my plat that that's when we begin to soften. how do we riley so so that when i brad, i send that tech because if you don't, childs to be tomorrow is coming to you. they will bluish and dental is safety international center. what is that all about? well, what's sick and what's the blue isn't generally safety intuition. it is in that

house in africa and alice, who in the face of trouble have no way to boot is a view of the role i play on that one to me. many jim alice will freeze persecution . i'm the 1st point of the quote, and that will be hosting them for the past 10 years now. so this time i decided i want to official license so that i can have that payment and show them where these people will come and take some respite when be under attack. and you said you also have the box on the projects on the resume, on a project, a income, a room where you are picking up on the story that was covered by a general list was made it you get your symbol on that. and the arizona project is uh, cool leak matching is no matching is a clean delivery assets in the ad talking. that's how i talked to him. we went up one morning, he was showed that those will come up that jen, knowledge should know that the fact that you're taking down one gen at least,

that's no mean that we're sitting down. now we've monday to come together. we've monday to look for resources. so that if you killed anybody that the way we will put ourselves together, i lead that dalazana arizona project and i can tell you is very effective. and i bought from mine that i set up right at the gym at least i pro, is that well? well, so keen in helping exposing that bad deeds of people who killed. yeah. and that list now the press freedom situation might seem disheartening, but some progress has been made. and you've gone to the constitutional court struck down a provision of the computer nice was up that was seen as the limitation of freedom of speech. but let's talk about how the journalist themselves view the state of press freedom and what kind of environment did they work? well, correspondents, in uganda, canada, and gonna be of us be a perspective the new gun and sometimes the line between generalization and

activities and can be blind. for instance, many media organizations are owned by politicians. we on agenda. now these employee, as i've said to have it feed inflates from the reporting by the journalist. they how you sometimes in criticized politicians in state that you've done, at least for being present toward them. 70 has previously described private media outlets enemies, but also some colleagues into media proficient. how will flip joined touches on politics today. some of the most prominent politicians, both in the government on deal position, such a different demo with several newspaper then over a $150.00 tv and regular channel has a pretty diverse media landscape. and well, the 1st thing in politics and media on a ship press here is still a relatively free and able to criticize authority. one same as kind of an example of an access to our list is that the one photographer who turn to activism,

author of experience a report on post selection by those who would let them known for driving, takes all the way to parliament and putting the words antiques, overindulging, members of parliament, and so well couldn't aside from the powers that be may not be easy and 10, yes, it's still a toss that many journalists take on corrupt, seen by politicians and problem solving. it's a major problem in gardner, it's offensive or ordinary pressing for lots. what's a, what's a good, good policy, holstead, quality education, and many more now reporting about these issue father uses of gen, i live. and that's what the doctor for getting 10, at least not really a one now, but it's fairly on in his car. yeah. for about 2 decades. a goal for guessing concrete evidence to prosecute such a fish out meant he has to go on that. com, or even just to come in, at least in doing that, but not to corruption actively as what he said by governments with some public

officials declaring he an enemy of this space. and if it's so now known gradstaff, unless hasn't become just a multi media documentary, myka fox now and leaving activities for the ordinary people, look up to for sundays, and protecting them from the girls and abuse this. and it's always interesting to hear those insights from the ground. now it's additional journalism is hyper focused on the notion of objectivity. but some practitioners argue that in the face of injustice, that can be no objectivity. so they opened, they choose to be activists within the media. as for you, you know, a street debate it if you money and old pano tackle this scene line between journalism and activism and it's costing it really undermines press integrity, the

hello and welcome back to the 77 percent 3 debate this week. we and the, the in africa, nor on the streets. we have home to the global media for i'm one of the leading medium for globally. it's mostly critics, for those of you who live in africa, the media spaces are usually either not 3 or independence. and for that reason, sometimes it's a false to do a work that they did not sign up for activities. so today, but we to ask, where is that line if there is one in africa between journalism and activism? and today i have a girl just found out here with me, look at those applicant, kind of a not less talked with you. what is activism? gen amazon puts you in that speech sway you get into activism. not because you want, but you find yourself in that speech. so what's the difference? i that kind of, gen, i live them. i do is naming jamie named jalen. and it works because i managed to

get people into jail and continental people. what, what do you need to do as a result of that, which i do so you can call me, i must have missed, but i do my jen allison and did death deals into activities. how do you define yourself? so do you see yourself more as an activist or as a junior? i see myself as i'm active is because of the end product that i get. okay, we want to do you find yourself into situations as well where you're what sort of to places you in situations that you didn't necessarily sign up for? um, yes, i do on my absolutely refused that todd activist. i am shy away from me to i run away from me. why? because there's different types of activities and i think you feel no play the type of activity. so you all you do. that's when you do get into trouble. you uh, you got an active use based on your personal conviction. all your pronounce that activities by your job, all by the governments of the day who's upset about what you're doing. people can also be active is because of the tension on the call on me,

and they have to perform a new wave activism as jo nineties. and then finally, i think people from the activities to genetic somebody activities also of greed because it's of a read. yes. correct, i said, so i said what i said, okay, unless you have something to add to that. and i totally disagree with the thing because i think that she's not looking at the dean just we fees. there's no point in doing that piece of demo. somebody gets him up and what came up on the same street with that criminal. i see i would take you to deal. i testify, i'd sure to have called everything. we don't become active. it's because we love a demo of them. it's not a tea party. it's a serious business, i do have your rebuttal. i have to say, i look activism from the perspective of the don't tell the drill ninety's what's cubes for being a drug. and so i know for what i mean, my own father was cute. 15 years ago for being a drone on his he wasn't even on investigating john and so you can even get killed for being a call. them is a part of the yeah, well, have another female. i'm always watching my box and nobody knows i was coming to

a button, for example, i just show up when i pull stuff down so strongly. yeah. well, i'd say these to say when you mix these activities in the problem is that home we see it means it's no longer. i'm not, i'm not serious. i do not identify as one i will never identify as well. can you tell me why? i mean, this is something that is very deep. you said you like i was like, oh yeah, just in the via large the. 7 so i will say that you kind of do johnny's invest as impactful going by the book. i need to still in fact from, i'm an example of that. when i did call dean, people were very happy with being changed. but guess what? that was. so people that came to see i was paid by a foreign government because i, my son's name is jeremiah. you will always be called an activities which as well where you do your journalism and are in with spend they don't. oh yes, because if i was doing the full day and for example, my name would that be between visibility to brittany and visa for what we're gonna

take away. if somebody doesn't go to do it, does it take away from the work that she did? it doesn't take away a lot of people want to spend too much, but uh, on the tv, but i'm see my brother and i'm talking about the work that made my mother have to be made. my brother pop the few with the front of me. i have a 6 i'm, i'm going to say change came and i do, i hardly print those. i've been changed parks when opened offices were opened into port co dean lead jobs for 4 months. so to go home to me where we had not said that, well that's not change, then my name is not bruno. so i'd like to hear from you all based on the what we've heard yet today. do you still believe that these, that line between journalism and activism will have you shifted a little bit? there is a line i maintain that there is a line. and for me, what would be important is that transpired and see that we know which side you're on. if you're a journalist and you, once you're an activist, you're jealous. whichever had to putting on. that's what's about time. that is b p

a to your audience. so to have a listening to you because of the media, present it or they've done on this, you have so much power this to me for looking at to listening to you some even how you want to you very what like everything is they, they take it as it is, yeah. okay. almost. yeah, that's fine. yes. my own point is we will keep evolving as human beings, right? so as journalist does activates as advocates, gary, the end goal is to change political, social, whatever change it is we're trying to drive people well in looking at the next generation old, going to people who are thinking to come into journalism. i think what drives use key for and has it felt like it's appalling, like, this is like, i will see you in jail for room doesn't have seen joe, but you have to just expose the story of what you was coming in to read. you need to ask yourself, why are you coming for the apple? it's already out was because yes, so good job. you'll be nominated for an emmy. yeah. but that's not why that is because at the end of it there's no need to have gone tables to sleep. with we've had done a lease, we know awards on lose piece in cost. the story didn't feel and right. so we don't

know what you want to know what, what's happening, story about the floods that it doesn't stick, right? so i don't actually going personally deciding, okay, i like to see people in june, so i'm going to enjoy it. become a journalist. i love people don't like i'm not gonna be great on top of my face. that's what you want to do, then what you need to close it out. why? yeah. what's to what extent do you need to be on this that you like the attention of the accolades or you know what i'm going to do this because of the right thing to do for myself. i is motivation being the can i call your getting it pretty good . all right, well now, so for me, i mean, when i saw that quote, to me was like, let's get just, i had a brother who was, i might be. so that was what motivated me wasn't any of what i think the i mean was going to call. yeah. but for me, more important is the solution we need to about from the tv shows about this the big spring. so you know, practicing news in practice. so i want to see eddie told us 26 people don't. we don't see jo, nineties, older ladies, don't people to engage me. they just say you're not cvc. don't know to do johnny's

in the younger ones should be, i'm not supposed to be in the middle because i'm not young, but i'm not old. so i feel we should try to overcome distributions. activity room is not a bond, was it's not something that we kind of speak about. well, she says, let's be transferring. let's try to avoid putting all right, to know, so because the audience he's on the proof, i've done these governments already doing that now. yeah i, the news is your right, an us last but not least. so i lance, part of my journalism here in gym and i dream then that went out by rough. i know that was famous and that come a gen i've also learned from the b, b, z all come apart from that. the due date, code of ethics guides me as i work. so at the end of the day, i believe that we should ask ourselves the question, when we get into us, piece of that, how do i ensure that i get people up? and so jen again, i see you full training. i see the youth and i want to emphasize that the advertising group, i'm all the, i'm tired of the roots in system. yeah. and they want to see

a change. yeah. and if we wanted flicking partners or not, videos, congress, then we have to move towards more activism and i don't see any like the amount of them and activity on us. thank you so so much. thank you to audience at the beginning of this debate. we us a very simple question. where is the line between activism and journalism? and as one of the people here said, it's just public curious when you try to find the sun. thank you all to a lovely audience here. thank you to kind of move and the usual. thank you. thank you you deep and you'll find a list for that insights when the beat. as always, you can check out the longer the lesson of that debate on our youtube channel and speaking of channels, you left us a few comments on our facebook page, telling us what press freedom means to you. the fast to an is party slot, p campbell who sees press freedom is not press freedom when the use of it abuse it,

the jays have become journalist, social media. we thought verification has become a source of news. the 2nd comment from sallie barry and new sees, i don't like, nor do i take news, you know, a country seriously because it is propaganda and they don't address or issues. time king george sees every country has a short it citizens, freedom of speech. it's actually the freedom after the speech that is not available . and the last comment for today's show is from emmanuel coy, receive press freedom is important because this is the only way, time or opportunity you have to read slot issues of national and international concern. thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts. we always appreciate it. now press freedom is a very important topic, but it's

a lot to take in. so we're going to wind down with the visit to livingstone in zambia. and we'd go to a very on to a guide. okay. claudia was found to show us around, prepared to be blown away by the smoke. that event is, which is what the locals called the great victoria falls. i'm sure livingstone will, will you with its people, nature and history enjoy. i miss the beach. claudia was sunday. the 25 year old arrived in livingston 5 years ago. she wants to become the 1st to female safari guide from her village. and livingston is not just sam b as for my capital, but also it's tourism, how the name dr. scottish explorer and the missionary doctor david livingston, the 1st european to see and document the impressive victoria falls in 18. 55. ok.

at least most famous sight cloutier takes us to the age of this m. b, the river. this is called the poignant part of the world. the spot for young loved to get to gauge on happens to me. so insomnia, and it says, well they, we have a lot of really uninstalled and people resisting the pause every a. and it's really amazing to see because that is one of the 7 that's one of the walls. on average, 1000000 liters of water cascade down, victoria falls every single 2nd. this she a spectacle evokes a sense of o and one to locally though they are known as most deep what to for the smoke that fund. and i believe when i went on

the next stuff, these livingston's very old national talk, just 10 minutes drive from the city center. we meet some of the cloud. you as the most special friends, the highly endangered white or square lipped rhinoceros. once thousands of ryan knows one to the plains of this empty easy river, but poaching has decimated them. numbers today, the livingston, ryan, those are so precious that they are called to 247. this is the only place in the country, livingstone, where you get to see the ryan. so during call we'd, we had through a newborn babies. and now we've got females, 2 of them, which i expecting the numbers that multiplying. it's really, really good news from protecting africa's most endangered animals to hosting a having the southern african trade hub and to being the gateway to one of the

world's most famous sites. livingston has it all. and that's what i saw for this week. we've shown you how young off weekends are using different forms of story tending to make the voices hot and report on what's happening around them. have they inspired you to do something similar. we'd love to hear your stories to connect with those on social media. you can find the 77 percent on youtube, instagram and now on take talk. you know, the deal by now. i'm going to leave you with something we'll be with it for. here is some part of the grade. we've had truck energy featuring nadeem, dean, g, a, b, c. thanks so much for watching and caught you in a late to show bye for now. realize all the time we lose the allies of the read space of them in the library. my gosh,

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