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c, d, w. these places in europe are smashing the record step into a little bit venture. it's the treasure map for modern globetrotters. discover some of us record breaking site on google back to and now also in book form. hi guys, my name is i do go and this is really a flighty and you are watching that as of instead of his boss and point dw, it's all about africa. so keep watching this out. hello and welcome to the 77 percent. the whole life because youth, it's not always easy to document or experiences will share our thoughts. today's show is about what happens when you write to talk or pine is suppressed. in nearly
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40 percent of african countries, independent media observe is classified the situation of press freedom of difficult . so today, we're focusing on freedom of expression and how young people are fighting for their voices to be hired. i want you kamara. well come, coming up. we may journalists from uganda, k. yeah. and gotten us what tell us about the challenges they face to bring in or sprint debate in dfcs do globally need to for us we tackle the general using buses as of as into the bait. and we wrap up in the evening story. zombie is cultural jam list with anita and he's now freedom of speech may sound like a dry topic, but it's anything but to, especially for the use we are the driving force behind change after all. so let's
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take this show off with a bit of a twist. allow me to introduce you to rap as a dog. oh and amelia, flying from nat ruby. they are using the musical talents to call up the dangers to the press over to you fellows rough. you are right to free, don't a team is important. see the press clear and then to go add a port in this place because that that become a bell press. yeah, that's the absolute good story unfold for freedom is juggling left on to the phase that operation. reading virtual, why fi to the address shown you bought out of 10, you 7 countries and studies factorial out of the that is 3 government control. the page meet the click, this is think, check what's on the other. the canyon. ted made me stop this information propaganda
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reading, you know, communities in this environment. impunity rains. i'd be try to address that. getting investigative before. does it mean to bother you clicked on? let me put it in booking the bustle, so he read just totally becoming the no new zone in on the filled him 2nd, done with the new sentence. the press getting to present to submitting the sentence versus the guy's info and networking. in some countries we can apply the crime to amended the fake news cream you know like the gun, the booking for thing, this is the input tame and they do sharing with nice one guys. now aaliyah, we mentioned that press freedom in almost 40 percent of african countries is going to be that difficult. but did you know that in 2022 is that number was 33 percent.
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that means the situation on the continent is deteriorating rapidly. so it's no surprise that more journalist a watching on the cover, including, unless i remove on this, the good may, on investigative journalist, has exposed dozens of corruption stories in his country. his multiple name, shame, and jail. his work has divided people some think that it goes to fall while others think it's necessary to hold those in power to account. our very own michael ot caught up with him recently to find out more about the width of his work and why he does what he does. now, lots of young people who are interested in becoming you like you. i mean, exposing corruption in the countries, but they are of use in the a lot of telling this talk to them about some of the risk that investigative
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journalism on the come by investigative journalism faces. nobody. sure thing that coming into gen ed is a, is a bed of roses. it is not going to be attacked. you are going to be suit in the football is combat was suit $6.00 to $6.00 things. but here's a trick. if you stick to had color evidence, no, my pet this, you know my past the number of people will shoot you to will stop. it's all up to making sure that you check your security very well. you don't become trigger happy in just talking and mation and things that you do. you ensure that you follow a very simple techniques that i come explaining this interview, but it is difficult my days a way of surviving it. and i thing that i frequently use has that capacity to survive this don't. in any case, if we don't solve our problems,
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what is going to solve i, we expect to examine geminus to flight into our country to help us solve it. such a little across the continental, they have been several journalist 12 in affected who have been killed. would you still encourage the young people to get into this space where people are being killed and you have to hide your face? cost monthly because people are coming out to you. certainly, see, we cannot take the freedom of the price for grant. and the fact that you have your freedoms that so mean that you should go to sleep. that is what we ought to be reminded of as game at least you see when we become complacent and we think that that freedom we enjoy it was delivered to us on this. so my plat that that's when we begin to soften. how do we riley so so that when i brad, i send that tech because if you don't, childs to be tomorrow is coming to you. they will bluish and dental is safety
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international center. what is that all about? well, what sick, what's the blue isn't generally safety intermission is in that house in africa and jen alice, who in the face of trouble have no way to vote is a view of the role i play on that one to many, many jim alice will freeze persecution i'm the 1st point of the quote, and that will be hosting them for the past 10 years now. so this time i decided i want to official license so that i can have that payment and show them where these people will come and take some respite when be under attack. and you said, do you also have box on the projects on the resume, on a project in common room where you are picking up on the story that was covered by a general list was made it you get to ship more on that. and the arizona project is uh, cool leak matching this. now my to me is a colleague. delivery, i seen the ad talking, that's how i talked to him. we went up one morning,
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he was sure that those will come up that jen, knowledge should know that the fact that you're taking down one gen at least, that's no mean that we're sitting down. now we've monday to come together. we've monday to look for resources. so that if you killed anybody doesn't want the way we will put ourselves together. i lead that dalazana arizona project and i can tell you is very effective. and i bought from mine that i set up uh the demo is that pro is that well? well, so keen in helping, exposing that bad deeds of people who killed. yeah. and that list now the press freedom situation might seem disheartening, but some progress has been made. and you've gone to the constitutional court struck down a provision of the computer nice was up that was seen as the limitation of freedom of speech to. but let's talk about how journalists themselves view the state of press freedom in what kind of environment do they work. i will correspondents in
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uganda, kenya, and gonna be must be a perspective the new governor. sometimes the line between generalization and activities and can be blogs for instance, many mediocre nights visions are owned by politicians with an agenda. now these employee, as i've said, is to have it feed conflicts from the reporting by the journalist they hire. sometimes in criticized politicians in state that use journalist or being present jordan's have any has previously described private media outlets enemies but also some colleagues in the media proficient. how will flip joins punches and 4 digits today. some of the most prominent politicians, both in the government and the opposition, such a different demo with several newspapers in over a $150.00 tv and regular channels, kenya has a pretty diverse media landscape. and well, this hosting politics and media on
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a ship press here is still relatively free and able to criticize authority. one same was kind of an example of an act of a stern list. is that that's once a photographer who turned to activism. author the experience of reporting on kenya is post election violence. you would let them know for driving, takes all the way to parliament. and quoting the word m takes for overindulging to members of parliament. and so well put aside from the powers that be, may not be easy and tenure, low cost, but many turn. let's take on corruption by politicians and political peace out. it's a major problem in gonna, it's affects the ordinary pressing for life or trouble. sauce. good, good policy holes, good quality education and mini mall. not reporting about this issue father due to obtain i live and that's what is the 4th grade and then i list, i'm not really a one now started early on in this car. yeah. for about 2 decades, a goal for guessing concrete evidence to prosecute such a fish out meant he had to go on dot com. but he didn't have to come in at least in
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dreams, that amounted corruption actively, as what he said by governments with some public officials, bixler rehab, an enemy of this faith and effort. so now known gradstaff on last hasn't become, does a multi media documentary myka box now, and leaving activities for the ordinary people. look up to, for sundays, and protecting them from the girl and abuse this. and it's always interesting to hear those insights from the ground. now traditional journalism is hyper focused on the notion of objectivity, but some practitioners argue that in the face of injustice, that can be no objectivity. so they open, they choose to be activists within the media. as for you know, a street debate, edith kimani endo pano tackle this scene line between journalism and activism and it's costing it really undermines. press integrity,
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the hello and welcome back to the 77 percent 3 debate this week. we and the, the in africa, nor on the streets. we're home to the global media for, i'm one of the leading medium forums globally. it's mostly correct. for those of you who live in africa, the media spaces are usually either not 3 or independence. and for that reason, sometimes list a forced to do a work that they did not sign up for activities. so today we're going to ask, where is that line if there is one in africa between journalism and activism? and today i have a quote just found out here with me, look at those applicant, kind of a not less talked with you. what is activism? gen amazon puts you in that speech sway you get into activism. not because you want, but you find yourself in that speech. so what's the difference?
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i that kind of, gen, i live them. i do is naming jamie named jalen. and it works because i managed to get people into jail and that continental people, what, what do you need to do as a result of the work i do so you can call me, i might have missed. but i do my jen on this and it feels into activism. how do you define yourself? so do you see yourself more as an activist? oh, as a junior, i see myself as i'm active, it's because of the end product that i get. okay, we want to do you find yourself into situations as well where you're what sort of to places you in situations that you didn't necessarily sign up for? um, yes, i do on my absolutely refused that todd activist. i am shy away from me, so i run away from me why? because there's different types of activities and i think you feel no play the type of activity. so you all you do. that's when you do get into trouble. you uh, you got an active use based on your personal conviction. all your pronounce that activities by your job, all by the governments of the day who's upset about what you're doing. people can
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also be activities because of the attention he called me and they have to perform either way. activism as jo nineties. and then finally, i think people from the activities to genetic somebody activities also of greed because it's of a read. yes, correct. i said, so i said what i said, okay, unless you have something to add to that. and i totally disagree with him because i think that she's not looking at the dean just we fees. there's no point in doing that piece of gym and somebody gets him up and what came up on the same street with that criminal. i see, i would take you to deal. i testify, i'd sure to have called everything. we don't become active. it's because we love a demo, something's not that cheap, but it's a serious business. i do have your rebuttal. i have to say i look activism from the perspective of the don't tell the dro ninety's who was killed for being a drug. and so i know what it means. my own father was cute, 15 years ago for being a drone on his he wasn't even an investigative journalist so you can even get
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killed for being a call them is a part of the yeah, well, have another female. i'm always watching my box and nobody knows i was coming to a button, for example, i just show up when i pull stuff down so strongly. yeah. well, i'd say these to say when you mix these activities in the problem is that home we see it means it's no longer. i'm not, i'm not serious. i do not identify as one i will never identify as well. can you tell me why? i mean, this is something that is very deep. you said you do, you like, like sort of like just oh yeah, just in the via the wrong. so i will say that you kind of do johnny's investors, impactful. going by the book. i need to still in fact from i'm an example of that. when i did call dean, people were very happy with being changed. but guess what? that was. so people that came to see i was paid by a foreign government because i, my son's name is jeremiah. you will always be called an activities which are the way you do. your job is in a 9 way spend they don't. oh yes,
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because if i was doing the full day and for example, my name would that be between visibility to brittany and visa for what we're gonna take away. if somebody doesn't go to do it, does it take away from the work that she did? it doesn't take, i went by the people want to spend too much, but to the site and i'm not really know why. but i'm saying, my brother, you know, i'm talking about the work that made my mother have 50, made my brother perhaps a few with the front of me. i have a 6 i'm, i'm going to say change came, nigeria have different lives. i've been change parks where opened offices were opened into port co dean lead jobs for 4 months to go home to meet where we had not said there was no change, then my name is not bruno. so i'd like to hear from you all. based on the what we've heard yet today, do you still believe that these, that line between journalism and activism will have you shifted a little bit? there is a line i maintain, that there is a line. and for me, what would be important is that transpired and see that we know which side you're on. if you're a journalist and you, once you're an activist,
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you're jealous. whichever hutch you're putting on, that's what's about time. that is the key to your audience. so it's, we have a listening to you because of the media pushing it or they've done. and if you have so much power this solely for looking at to listening to you, some even how you want to your very what, like everything is they, they take it as it is. yeah. okay. almost. yeah, that's fine. i'm yes, my own point is we will keep evolving as human beings, variety of journalists, those activities as advocates, dikarious, the end goal is change of political, social, whatever change it is. we're trying to drive people well in looking at the next generation on going to people who are thinking to put me into journalism. i think what drives use key for unless it's also like it's appalling like this is like, i will see you in jail for room doesn't have seen do, but you have to just expose the story of what you was coming in to read. you need to ask yourself, why are you coming for the apple? it's already out was because yes, so good job. you'll be nominated for an emmy. yeah. but that's not why that is,
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because at the end of it there's no need to go and able to speak with. we've had done a lease, we know awards lose piece in cost. the story didn't feel and right. so we don't know what you wanna know what, what's happening, story about the floods that it doesn't stick, right? so i don't actually going personally deciding, okay, i like to see people in june, so i'm going to enjoy it. become a journalist. i love people don't like i'm not something great on top of my face. that's what you want to do, then what you need to consider, why you're what's, to what extent do you need to be on this, that you like the attention of the accolades or you know, what i'm going to do this because of the right thing to do for myself, i is motivation being the can i call you getting it pretty good. all right, well now, so for me, i mean, i wouldn't, i, somebody quoted me was like, let's get just, i had a brother who was, i'm not be. so that was what motivated me wasn't any of what i think the, i mean was going to call. yeah. but for me, more important is the solution we need to about from the tv shows about this, the big spring. so you know, practices, newsroom practice. so i want to see eddie told us on the 6 people don't,
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but we don't see jo 90 older ladies don't people to engage and they just say you're not cvc, don't know what to do. john is in the younger ones should be, i'm not supposed to be in the middle because i'm not young, but i'm not old. so i feel we should try to overcome distributions. activism is not a bond was, it's not something that we kind of speak about. well, she says, let's be transferring. let's try to avoid putting all right in our cells, because the audience sees the proof. i've done these governments already doing that . now guys, the news is your right, an us last but not least. so i lance, part of my journalism, the gym, and i dream then that went out by rough. i know that was famous and that coverage. and i've also learned from the b, b, z, all come apart from that they do, do code of ethics guides me as i work. so by the end of the day, i believe that we should ask ourselves that question. when we get into the last piece of that, how do i ensure that i get people up? and so jen, again, i see you full training. i see that you and i want to emphasize that the
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advertising you, i'm all the, i'm tired of the roots in system. yeah. and they want to see a change. yeah. and if we wanted for lithium partners or not, various countries, then we have to move towards small activism and i don't see any like the amount of them and activity on us. thank you so so much. thank you to audience. at the beginning of this debate, we us a very simple question. where is the line between activism and journalism? and as one of the people here said, it's just prop mchale, it's when you try to find the sun. thank you all to a lovely audience here. thank you to kind of it's as usual. thank you. thank you you deep and you'll find a list for that insightful debate. as always, you can check out the longer the lesson of that debate or know a youtube channel and speaking of channels, you left us a few comments on our facebook page, telling us what press freedom means to you,
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or the flash to an is party slot, p campbell, who sees press freedom is not press freedom when the use of it abuse it. the days have become journalist, social media. we thought verification has become a source of news. the 2nd comment from sally berry in new sees, i don't like, nor do i take news. you know, a country seriously because it is propaganda and they don't address or issues time king george fees. every country has a short it citizens, freedom of speech. it's actually the freedom after the speech that is not available . and the last comment for today's show is from emmanuel coy, receive press freedom is important because this is the only way, time or opportunity you have to read slot issues of national and international concern. thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts. we always appreciate it. now press freedom is
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a very important topic, but it's a lot to take in. so we're going to wind down with the visit to livingstone in, via, and we'd go to a very on to a guide. okay. claudia was found to show us around, prepared to be blown away by the smoke. that event is, which is what the locals called the great victoria falls. i'm sure livingstone will, will you, with its people nature and a history enjoy. i miss the beach claudia was sunday. the 25 year old arrived in livingston 5 years ago. she wants to become the 1st to female safari guide from her village, and livingston is not just that beautiful my capital, but also its tourism hub. named off the scottish explorer and the missionary doctor
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david livingston, the 1st european to see and document the impressive victoria falls in 18. 55. ok, please obvious. the most famous site cloud you, it takes us to the edge of this m b, the river. this is called the pointing part of the world, the spot for young life, but to get to gauge on happens to be bad. so insomnia, and is this for the victoria? we have a lot to really uninstalled and people resisting the pause every a. and it's really amazing to see because that it's one of the 7 that's one of the walls. on average, 1000000 liters of water cascade down, victoria falls every single 2nd. this she, a spectacle evokes a sense of o and one to locally though they are known as most the what to for the smoke that
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fund. and i believe when i went on to the next stuff, these livingston's very old national talk, just 10 minutes drive from the city center. we meet some of the cloud us most special friends, the highly endangered white or square lipped rhinoceros. once thousands of ryan knows one to the plains of this emp, easy river, but poaching has decimated them. numbers today, the livingston ryan knows us so precious that they are called it 247. this is the only place in the country leaving stone where you get to see the rhino. so during call read, we had through a newborn babies. and now we've got females, 2 of them, which i expecting the numbers that multiplying. it's really, really good news from protecting africans most endangered animals to hosting
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a having the southern african trade hub and to being the gateway to one of the world's most famous sites. livingston has it all and that's what i saw for this week. we've shown you how young off weekends are using different forms of story tending to make the voices hot and report on what's happening around them. have they inspired you to do something similar. we'd love to hear your stories to connect with those on social media. you can find the 77 percent on youtube, instagram and now on take talk. you know, the deal by now. i'm going to leave you with something we'll be with it for. here is some of the great. we've had truck energy featuring nadeem, d, b, c. thanks so much for watching and caught you in a late to show bye for now. realize all the time we lose
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