the, our sports, all of our scoring we say there about never giving up sports flies every weekend on d w. the hi guys, my name is i do go and this is really a flighty and you are watching this of instead of the bus and point dw total about africa. so keep watching this out. hello and welcome to the 77 percent the whole life. because youth, it's not always easy to document or experiences will share our thoughts. today's show is about what happens when you write to talk or pine is suppressed. in nearly 40 percent of african countries, independent media observe is classify the situation of press freedom of difficult.

so today we're focusing on freedom of expression and how young people are fighting for their voices to be hired. i want you kamara. well come, coming up. we made a journalist from uganda, k. yeah. and gotten us what tell us about the chinese is the face to bring it in in or sprint debate in dfcs dw global need for us. we top of the things, lots of us citizens debate and we wrap up in the evening story. zombie is cultural jam list with a nature and he's now freedom of speech may sound like a dry topic, but it's anything but especially for the youth, we are the driving force behind change after all. so let's take this show off with a bit of a twist. allow me to introduce you to rap as a dog. oh,

and i'm really flying from nairobi. they are using the musical talents to call up the dangers to the press. over to you fellows rough. you're right to free, don't. a nuisance with team is important. see the press clear and then to good level as you put in this place because that become a bell press. yeah, that's the absolute good story unfold. press freedom is juggling. laugh done to lose the fees that operation is reading through wi fi to the address shown you've bought out of 10. you have been countries and studies factorial out of the that is 3 government control. the fed media click this is simply check what's on the other, the canyon, send me this information, propaganda reading, you know,

communities in this environment. impunity range of the try to address that. getting investigative before, does it really mean to bother you clicked on that, but it didn't booking the bustle, so he read just totally becoming the no new zone in the program that can don't with the new sentence, the person getting to present to submit the most sensitive places advisors in this guy's info and networking. in some countries we came across to amended the fake news cream, you know, like the gun, the looking for thing. this is the input tame and return to sharing with nice one guys. now i, lia, we've mentioned that the press freedom in almost 40 percent of african countries is going to be that difficult. but did you know that in 2022 that number was 33 percent. that means the situation on the continent is deteriorating rapidly. so

it's no surprise the more journalist a watching on the cover, including, i must remove this. the good me an investigative journalist, has exposed dozens of corruption stories in his country. his multiple name, shame, and jail. his work has divided people some think that it goes to fall while others think it's necessary to hold losing power to account. our very own michael ot caught up with him recently to find out more about the width of this work and why he does what he does. that lots of young people who are interested in becoming you like you. i mean, exposing corruption in the countries, but they are of, you'll see a lot of challenges. talk to them about some of the risk that investigative journalism on the come by investigative journalism faces. nobody should think that

coming into again, that is a, is a bed of roses. it is not going to be attacked. you are going to be suit in the football. it's kind of a, i was sued 6 a 6 times. but here's a trick. if he's picked to had color evidence, no my pat this, you know, my pass the number of people who shoot to will stop. it's all up to making sure that you check your security very well. you don't become trigger happy in just talking and mation and things that you do. you ensure that you follow a very simple techniques that i come explaining this interview, but it is difficult. my day is a way of surviving it. and i think that african use has that capacity to survive this don't. in any case, if we don't solve our problems, we've been to solve i, we expect to examine geminus to flight into our country, to help us solve it. such

a little across the continental, they have been several journalist 12 in affected who have been killed. would you still encourage the young people to get into this space where people are being killed and you have to hide your face? cost monthly because people are coming out to you. certainly see, we cannot take the freedom of that price for granted. and the fact that you have your freedoms that so mean that you should go to sleep. that is what we ought to be reminded of as game. at least you see when we become complacent and we think that that freedom we enjoy it was delivered to us on this. so i'm glad that that's when we begin to suffer. how do we riley ourselves so that when i brad, i send the attack because if you don't shouts to be tomorrow is coming to you. they will blow us and dental is safety. international center. what is that all about? well, what sick,

what's the blue isn't generally safety. intuition is in that house in africa and jan alice, who in the face of trouble have no way to boot is a view of the role i play on that one to me. many jen, alice will phrase specification. i'm the 1st point of the quote, and that will be hosting them for the past 10 years now. so this time i decided i want to official lies so that i can have a payment and shelter where these people come and take some risk by twin be under attack. and you said you also have the box on the projects on the original, on a project in come a room where you are picking up on the story that was covered by a $10.00 towards merited. you get your symbol on that. and the arizona project is uh, cool leak at martinez, now mats and the zip code in the delivery. i see it in the ad talking. that's how i talked to him. we brought up one morning, your showed that those will come up. that generally should know that the fact that

you're taking down one gen at least, that's no mean that we're sitting down. now we've monday to come together. we've monday to look for resources so that if you killed anybody that the way we will put ourselves together, i lead that dalazana arizona project and i can tell you is very effective. and i bought from mine. there are several at the gym at least i pro is that well? well, so keen in helping, exposing that bad deeds of people who killed. yeah. and that list now the press freedom situation might seem disheartening, but some progress has been made. and you've gone to the constitutional court struck down a provision of the computer nice was up that was seen as the limitation of freedom of speech. but let's talk about how the journalist themselves view the state of press freedom in what kind of environment do they work. i will correspondents in uganda, kenya, and gonna be of us to be able to speak to the new governor. sometimes the line

between generalization and activities and can be blogs. for instance, many media organizations are owned by politicians. we on agenda. now these employee, as i've said to have it feed inflates from the reporting by the journalist. they how you sometimes in criticized politicians in state that you've done at least of being present toward them. 70 has previously described private media outlets enemies but also some colleagues into media proficient. how will flip joined touches on 4 digits today? some of the most prominent politicians, both in the government on deal position, such a different demo with several newspapers, an over a $150.00 tv and regular channel has brought us media landscape. and while the posting in politics and media on a ship, the press here is still relatively free and able to criticize authority. one same as kind of an example of an act of a stern look that up once

a photographer who turn to activism, author of experience a report on kenya, post election violence you would like to known for driving, takes all the way to parliament. and putting the word antiques, overindulging of the problem. and so we'll put aside from the powers that be may not be easy and 10, yes, it's low cost that many turn. let's take on corruption by politicians and probably for free. so it's a major problem in gonna, it's a fixed or ordinary pressing for lots. what's a, what's a good route policy, hullstead, quality education and mini mall. not reporting about these issue father juices of jen, i live. and that's what the doctor for getting. then at least i'm not really a one of the early on in his car. yeah. for about 2 decades ago. for guessing calling for the evidence to prosecute such a fish out. nancy has to go on that combat. you didn't have to come again, at least in dreams, that amounted corruption actively,

as what he said by governments, with some public officials, declaring he an enemy of the space. and if it's so now known gradstaff, unless hasn't become just a multi media documentary, myka fox now and leading activities for the ordinary people, look up to for sundays, and protecting them from the girls and abuse this. it's always interesting to hear those insights from the ground. now, traditional journalism is hyper focused on the notion of objectivity. but some practitioners argue that in the face of injustice, that can be no objectivity. so they opened, they choose to be activists within the media for you, you know, a street debate if kamani and old pano tackle this scene line between journalism and activism and it's costing it really undermines press integrity, the

hello and welcome back to the 77 percent street debate this week, we are leaving africa, nor on the streets. we're home to the global medial floor. i'm one of the leading a medium for him globally. it's mostly correct for those of you who live in africa, the media space is usually either not 3 or independent. and for that reason, some generally a forced to do a work that they did not sign up for active exams. so today we're going to ask, where is that line if there is one in africa between journalism and activism, and today i have a gorgeous bondo here with me, look at those applicant kind of a. now let's start with you. what is activism? gym? i'm as i'm, it puts you in that speed sway you gets into active as not because you want and, but you find yourself in that speaks. so what's the difference? i that kind of, gen, i live them. i do is naming shame and gaming. and then when it's because i managed

to get people into jill and that continental people, what, what do you need to do as a result of the work i do so you can call me, i must have missed. but i do my jan on this and it feels into activism. how do you define yourself? so do you see yourself more as an activist or as a junior? i see myself more as i'm active is because of the end product that i get. okay, we wanna do you find yourself into situations as well, where you're, what sort of places you in situations that you didn't necessarily sign up for you? yes, i do. and i absolutely refuse that tag activist. i'm shy away from each i run away from me. why? because there's different types of activities, and i think you feel no play the type of activity. so you all you do, that's when you do get into trouble. you. uh, you got an active, it's based on your personal conviction. all your pronounced that not tvs by your job, all by the governments of the day who's upset about what you're doing. people can also be activities because of the attention on the call on me,

and they have to perform a new ways. activism as jo nineties and then find out i think people from the activities somebody activities also of greed because of a read. yes. correct. i said, so i said what i said, okay. unless you have something to add to that, and i totally disagree with the culture. i think that she's not looking at the dean just we fees. there's no point in doing that piece of journalism. i get them up and what came up on the same street with that criminal. i see, i would take you to deal. i testify, i should have called everything we don't become active. it's because we love a demo, somebody's not a tea party is a serious business. i do have your rebuttal. i have to say, i do cut activism from the perspective of the don't tell the drone on these was killed for being a drug. and so i know says what i mean, miles farther on what fuel 15 years ago for being a drone on these, he wasn't even an investigative journalist, so you can't even get killed for when they call them. it's a part of the yeah, well, how are you? i'm always what you my boss. nobody knows i was coming to button for example,

i just show up when i pull stuff down so strongly. yeah. well, i'd say these to say when you mix these activities in the problem is the home we see it means it's no longer. i'm not, i'm not serious. i didn't know if i didn't 2 files. one i will never identify as well. can you tell me why, i mean, this is something that is very deep. you said you do you like like sort of like just oh yeah, just in the via the wrong i will say that you kind of do johnny's investors in proxy. going by the book. i need to still in fact from i'm an example of that. when i did quote, dean, people were very happy with being changed. but guess what? that was. so people that came to see i was paid by a foreign government because i, my son's name is jeremiah. you will always be called an activities which are the way you do your journalism. and 9 way spend.