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every games made has come at a high cost and was that not the strategic gains ukraine needs and its allies wants to see football, how is on its way in the shape of s and the shape of f. 165 digits present. savanski was in denmark on monday with a message of funds to the for the danish decision to supply essex students along with the netherlands and the pledge of ultimate victory. i'm feel go in belly and this is the day, the video friends. today we are calling to them. that's russian will lose this war. we will donate 1916 fight us yet to ukraine. finally, every ukrainian was waiting for the 16 for a long time. ukraine will prevail. and i want you to see it here in the field. it's
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ukraine will prevail also coming up the legacy of russia's involvement in the syrian civil war. we've been displaced to the camps because of russia's injustice and exxon imposed by it on the side regime before the rest and came here. welcome to the day we began wherever you kindly and present the landscape, spanking denmark and the netherlands for agreeing to provide k. if with f 16 find to advance 1st aircraft could be delivered this year, and the president said, he's confident that will help and the will with russia for 8 spot. moscow has ball and the american made hard, but will only escalate the conflict. a warm reception for ukraine's the load him use the lensky in copenhagen. you address the crowds after denmark and the netherlands pledge to supply f. 16 fighter jets to ukraine to something that key of
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hopes will tip the balance in the war is once we, when we come, race was simple thing together. we prove that either way. that's deep freedom matters. you're matters. ukraine once the 16 to update it's aging, soviet era, air force, the f. 16 entered service, and then 19, eighties, thousands have been built. it remains the backbone of many nato and allied air forces around the world. the 1st few aircraft should reach ukraine by the end of this year. more will follow in 2025. rush as ambassador to denmark has warned that the donation of 19 f. 16 aircraft to ukraine,
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will only lead to an escalation of the conflict. but it will be a while before you cranes, new jets will make an impact on the battlefield. the airframes being supplied are likely to be quite old and will need extensive maintenance to remain in the air. ukraine will also need to train its pilots and mechanics. how effective the f 16 will actually be in the end, will depend on the weapons supplied with the jets. let's explore this with douglas lou, toes, chad of international and defense practices. a, b, g on group piece. i form a left handed general in the us army and the former us ambassador to nature. i. mr . investor, welcome to the day. i'm. what's your best guess about when do you think these plans will be in the over ukraine? well, it depends on a number of factors, as you know, this is more than just getting trained pilots in the aircraft themselves to
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ukrainian airfields. or there also has to be a maintenance infrastructure provider, so repair parts, special tools, and so forth. and then the munitions that the 16th will carry also have to be provided. so there's a system here that has to all come together with the various pieces. interlocked, this is approach concurrent. that is while the pilots are treated, the systems are being in place. then i would suggest by the spring of next year, the ukrainians will have an s, 16 capability, the power. there are delays. and if these of this piece of capabilities are provided sequentially one after the other, it could be a year before we see the effect. so either way, too late to help with the kind of ukrainian counter offensive it's right, there won't be an impact issue. right? there also reports that format us pilots. i'm willing to fly these planning so the
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ukraine may be willing to let them is that something you think the by the administration would let happen, as well? is american pilots, taylor platelets. so these are people who have been trained on the 16 and the american air force and are now out of service. so they're no longer members of the us air force. if they take personal decisions to move to ukraine and assist in the training more effort. that's just that a personal decision, but i, you will not, i think c, r a 8 support from the, by the ministration upfront, frankly, from the american people to become directly involved with active duty us service members. so it's interesting then to, to see if we projects forward to early next year when these things are in the i'm look at the situation now where we have this condra offensive moving very slowly because of a strength of russian defences. it's hard to see what sort of difference these f sixteens will may give them that the ukrainian forces are not effectively punching
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forward. while this exchange, once they're filled with trained pilots, in the support process that i've described really provide to capabilities to meaningful battlefield capabilities. to ukraine is, 1st of all, on the often subside, the 16 is a very capable strength or craft that is, it can provide precision strikes against russian defensive positions. so it is in that way, arguments ukrainian artillery systems. and then it also provides a defensive capability. so the cruise missiles and the drones which are striking the interior of ukraine now often launch from outside of you create those crews. muscles can be attacked and destroyed bias and 16 and sort of in the air to air combat. right? so both of the office of a defensive capability to really prove a big difference next year. and how important is it but based on that. but these
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planes are coming from europe rather than from the us, as well as your your record mentioned. there are thousands of this best exchange in the sort of nato inventory to include the danes and the door to a close. who of course have just announced they are providing some 60 f sixteens, but there are literally thousands elsewhere across nato. so i believe that it's possible that this 1st cross of 60, from the danes and the gosh, will serve as a prototype, work catalyst for other contributions. down the road, right. can you see uh the united states uh, being one of those contributors? yes, i can. uh certainly do a sixteen's ability in the us inventory. and depending on how this prototype goes with the danes and the judge, i can see the us taking the decision to, to add additional a 16 as we move through. what i'd like to take a look at the policy experience behind this in the end, the, the,
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in your funding in the us, what isn't inevitable that the longer the school goes on, then the more uncertain becomes the support that the ukraine receives from it. so it's friends and allies you know, the conventional wisdom is that, and i think vladimir clinton's plan is that the us will tire of the war and ukraine at the expense of providing military and economic assistance to ukraine. of the, the, of the domestic costs of inflation caused by disruptions in the energy market and the food supply and so forth put in this game is the longer he's betting that we will get tired and distracted. and i think this decision on the 16th is an important symbol, important message to the letterman putting that we will not type that we are not done a supporting ukraine and that we really have a lot of cards to play in the long game. accept, accept,
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accept with the us presidential election just over a year away. the prospect of a potential trump presidency must change the calculus bill. yes. and the american political process is, is bun charted waters. i mean, this is the notion that the lead up potential republican nominee is 4 times indicted and i think been and has taken the sort of political pastors he has is simply unprecedented in american political history. so we in america have work to do um, as, as we move through the presidential campaign over the next 12 months. and i think a great deal will rest on the choices that the american voters make next year. thanks for joining us. douglas. lo to former us ambassador tonight, sir of the
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kind of the highest sense of military units to help tackle, while 5 of the force, thousands of people to leave the homes. hundreds of fast, the threatening cities in british columbia and the northwest territories. cooler weather is helping 5 fighters make progress, but vessel, many destruction on a huge scale it's counted as worst wildfire season on record. the burn gland adds up to an area larger than ireland. of international fire crews are on hand to help battles of blazes. a state of emergency has been declared in british columbia and canada is federal government has stepped in. as canadians are seeing in the heretic images, they see of devastation and the fear of a residence in northwest territories and, and b. c. it is an extraordinarily serious situation. 35000
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residents have already been evacuated in british columbia. colona is one of the worst seed areas. the fire spread rapidly there over the weekend, growing more than 100 fold in just 24 hours. fire cru, see if the improved weather conditions hold. they could gain the upper hand, you're finally feeling like we're moving forward, rather than we're moving backwards. and that's a great feeling for all of us to have him saying that make no mistake. there will be difficult days ahead, with many residents, anxious to return home authorities or warning tens of thousands more could still be forced to evacuate and say, say that we can take you to yellowknife in kansas northwest territories and speak to man. rebecca, i'll say, who's that city has been particularly effective? uh, welcome that, i'll tell you how many people are left in your city at the moment. the
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1000 essential employees left and so that's the firefighters and the crews working um on the defensive lines. uh, and we have about 1500 residents and we are continuing to encourage those residents to please leave. it's uh, it's not safe. the highways are open. so residents can we by highway or if you need a flight, if you don't have a vehicle or if you have a medical condition seniors, there are flights available and so you can head to the school jim here sir john, it's open now 9 am to 9 pm, and you can register for a flight. so again, we're really encouraging folks to, to please head out. now while it's still safe. right? so you've got about 2500 the down for the population of around 20000. and i believe you have, but you, you have quite a number of people that who are living off the grid as well. i hope you're going about contacting the citizen indigenous and homeless populations and getting them
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to safety. yeah, so that happened on thursday. those were a 1st flights out, and so we did have people driving around. we had people walking around picking up anybody, you know, hey, there's an evacuation, there's free flights. would you like to to evacuate? of course we can't force anybody to evacuate, so it's all based on, on the people's decisions. but yeah, we wanted to make sure that the word got out. and so making sure that there was patrol as to areas where folks who are and how it was me, me frequent. and so really making sure that everybody was out and based on our, our look and appear like the numbers. and it appears that the majority of people have left and so those who who remain does it, does that mean that not stuck fast or that still opportunities for them to, to leave? you know, definitely still opportunity to leave. so if you do have a car,
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we are encouraging people to drive the highway is open, there is only one way in and out of your own life. and unfortunately that is where the fire is as well. however, its safe uh the conditions are smoky. so you should drive with care and if you don't have a vehicle, we do have the flights available. so folks can go to the local high school gym here and sign up to to get on one of those free slides. so i'm still encouraging everybody to, to please leave and what are you sending them to there's a variety of, uh, evacuation centers that have been set up. the majority are in the province. so it's the most alberta, there's 7 municipalities that have reception centers set up. there's also an evacuation reception center set up in winnipeg and of course if people have friends and family del sol store or somewhere else in the territory that's not under and evacuation order, encouraging folks to,
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to stay with friends and family 1st. and there's this idea of a face, anything like this before? no, no, this is never have we had to evacuate before. frequently. illinois is an evacuation reception center. so we've already hosted 3 communities from the northwest territories this year. so the communities of he river and the color, the to 1st nation beach echo as well as of what could be their communities were all under threat from a forest fire. and we opened up our, our community to, to those residents. so the fire has never come as close as it's come to right now, which does also mean that there's a lot of trees to burn because uh, there's never been a forest fire in this area before. never come this close, we get in the region, but not this close. and so there was some rain of the weekend to giving 55 to some help on sale now. yeah, and um it is important to, to clarify,
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you know, the city of yellow life. we received about 11 millimeters of rain and the fires just outside of yellow nice. and it received significantly less and even with the amount of rain that we received in your life, it wouldn't be enough to, to stop the fire. but it is helpful for the firefighters. you know, every little bit counts, but um, i know residents who are evacuated, they're like great, we've had rain, we can come home and it's no, no, no, no, no, it's definitely, it wasn't enough. it's just allowed us to, to be able to attack the fire more today. it means the fire hasn't moved as much and so firefighters are actually able to set out a plan and implement that plan without having to suddenly changes at the last minute. well, thanks for taking the time to talk to us and mat rebecca alfie. may of you have a nice thank you. not a problem. have a news agency i pay
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a says rushes cut it out and strikes on a syrian rebel bias in italy, province u. k. based assuming observatory for human rights at at least 8 fire fights us from the jihad. as a medicine group, i had stuff for our shots were killed in the attack. the group controls waves of in the province, one of the last and is still holding out against president bush on our side on the strikes and rushes lights as to intervention. moscow has spent nearly a decade helping us on regime fines of civil war that has killed more than 350000 people in july and the kremlin blogs humanitarian a to rebel. how it lead problems in this, in serious that north west, to hundreds of thousands of internally displaced syrians of anger at the restaurant in a live, syria is last. rebel held enclave used to get here across the border from turkey. moscow recently used its u. n. vito to block the root must cause i,
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like i said, regime has long considered the root a violation of its sovereignty. it wants any aid going to rebel held territories to go through the regime in damascus. for people living in it live to eat had been a lifeline. one they don't want under the control of their enemy. we've been displaced to the comforts because it rushes injustice and ex site imposed by it on the side regime. we for the rest and came here, most goes military support for us. it is still clear. it carried out air strikes and it live just a few days before this protest, damascus. and moscow has claimed that there strikes only target insurgent groups. but local, say, 3 civilians died here. the number were working very hard and calling for an end to these attacks. to prevent the loss of lives, injury and the spread of talent and panic among civilians in the north western
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region of syria unplug the amount of studio versa. begin. air strikes like this in 2015 to support said when he was losing control of large areas of syria to rebels. since then, your power has been credited for aside survival. russia has also boosted the syrian armed forces by sending wagner mercenaries to fight along side. the analysts have also observed parallels between military tactics used in syria and ukraine. for example, the brutal bombing and see to a level of a scenario that then liter played out in where you pulled in return. russia has gained a strong strategic foothold in the middle east and a vocal supporter of its narrative about ukraine. and as such, has called pollutants invasion, a correction of history. the situation for civilians in rebel controlled and look
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is similar to that for people in crane. and yet, the western response is significantly different. ukrainian forces resisting russia continue to receive support. and it lives many feel for god, a band and, and young with the other site isn't so loud in full, a 1000000 displays, paperless threatened by new war of hunger and danger. for now, they feel they have no recourse but to continue protesting and hope that one day their voices will be heard. big this up with that i'll shall gray who is a city and public speaking on human rights activists. these kind of the director for the tiny a fast, the city, an emergency task force, that's a us based organization supporting the syrian opposition. welcome to dw, has the well forgotten about the conflicts in your country? the world has been ignoring it for a while, but 3 will never let the world forget about it. we speak about it with all this
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noise as much as we can, and we are present on your channels right now. right? is ignoring it, involves and forgetting about and said, which sounds conscious of the web. why would we, why would the rest of the world ignore what's going on in syria? firstly, it seems that the world likes to blame russia for a lot of things which russia is guilty such as you know, opposing legislations or our resolutions and security council. and we always say we can't do anything to help. so yet too complicated. and that's not the case, you know, we can't help so in many, many ways we saw that through when, when we had the earthquake, we actively see that they, not a states has the power to change things on the ground. did they do something enough to help the same people they didn't, but also other countries have the possibilities of doing that. so it has been active as an ignorance of the situation on the ground. the delivery of aid should have not been limited to, to the un could have been a,
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could be brought to syria in multiple ways. we have a smaller organization, the smaller the, the, the emergency desk force. we are managing lots, smuggle, getting 8 into so yeah, and the international community is failing in doing that one rush of blocks and access to something we should be able to find. another mechanism is we talking about an international community. it's a collection of a big number of countries that are not taking their responsibilities. but also when i, when i think about it, like i, i talked to you as, as, as that human who suffered didn't say, i didn't talk not talking to you for in any political terms around the legal terms . i'm talking to someone who is the son of a father who being killed by the same regime in the russian air force is at the brother of 2 brothers were killed. but some machine in the russian forces in syria when the world was to react, it can react, look and ukraine. you can see that the international community get together to help be crane and what is different. there is small differences, but when there is,
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well, we can always intervene in a way where we can help people protect him on the ground. and you see russia has committed the same crimes and celia. they've killed the bomb people, you see marble and, and now live both. the similarities are uncanny and yet the international community refused to engage in syria. the way they engage in ukraine on why do you think about this that i think that is was the 1st thing is cecilia the soon um, position like the leadership that ukraine has because ukraine is a, is a cut independent country. well, and so yeah, you have with a cost it's, we have your own president killing you. that gives that me, that makes the process easier. but i think that whether, whether it's, it's the complete reason or not, i think there is a, there is the european people feeling more they are creating and people are more like them, but also the was closer to them. so they are afraid themselves of,
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of having a difficult circumstances on themselves on their own ground. and, and the most important point is that regardless if the print ends are like us or not, of the koreans, our near us or not. when we talk about the story from the perspective of the human rights, we should not be discriminating, but between whether you are from the middle east or from europe. whether you are white or not, whether you, you oppose, you know, a threat on our neighboring countries are not, human rights should be independent. when you care, you have to care about about it without any consideration to political economy or to, to danger on your own ground. and that's what is disappointing for us. you know, we support your grand because we in syria. we believe that defeating russia helps us with women, syria. so for us to come up, it's a common cause, and that's how we want the world understand. we want the international community, including, you know, the countries that supporting,
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you've trained fight against russia, which we, which, which we love to see. we want them to all center stand that hurting russia, and syria is important for ukraine to when. and you click right. and we want to make that understanding that maybe that i'm going to here. thank you so much for joining us on my i will show great from the city and emergency task force. thank you. as well as any done. the compensation, however, can continue online. you'll find the psalms and social media channels at cdw news, or for more in depth analysis. go to a d, w dot com or use that d w at a good. the
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