the governments that go crazy, so your data will explain how these technologies work. so that's how they can also watch it. now the hi guys, my name is i do go and this is really a flight e. and you're watching that as of instead of percent on dw total about africa. so keep watching this out. hello and welcome to the 77 percent the whole life because youth, it's not always easy to document or experiences will share our thoughts. today's show is about what happens when you write to talk or pine is suppressed. in nearly 40 percent of african countries, independent media observe is classified the situation of press freedom of difficult

. so today we're focusing on freedom of expression and how young people are fighting for their voices to be hired. i want you kamara. well, come the coming up. we made a journalist from uganda. k. yeah. and gotten us what tell us about the challenges they face to bring in or sprint debate in dfcs dw build. we need it for us. we tackle the general using buses as it has been to the bay. and we wrap up in the evening story, zombie is cultural jam list with nature and history. now freedom of speech may sound like a dry topic, but it's anything but especially for the youth, we are the driving force behind change after all. so let's take this show off with a bit of a twist. allow me to introduce you to rap as

a dog. oh and amelia flying from nairobi. they are using the musical talents to call up the dangers to the press. over to you fellows rob. you're right to free, don't african. this is what team is the part to see them and press clear and then to go to add port in this place because that become a bell press. yeah, that's the absolute good story on phones. just read them is juggling left on to the freeze that operation spreading virtual why fi to the address shown is bought out of 10. you have in countries inside. he's fucked. tory out of the that is 3 government control. the page mediocrity says, check what's on the other, the can you tell me this information propaganda spreading, you know,

communities in this environment, impunity range. i'd be try to address that getting investigative report the, the dream into bought the like to not me, but it didn't booking the fussell. so he read just slowly becoming the no news on in or who felt him taken down with the new sentence, the getting present to submit the most sensitive guys, improvements, working in some countries, we can apply a crime to amended meals, dream you know, like the grand thing for thing, this is the input, tame and things which indeed do nice to and guys, now i live, we mentioned the press freedom in almost 40 percent of african countries is going to be that difficult. but did you know that in 2022 is that number was 53 percent. that means the situation on the continent is deteriorating rapidly. so it's no

surprise that's more journalist, a watching on the cover, including i must remove on this. the good may, on investigative journalist has exposed dozens of corruption stories in his country, his multiple name, shame, and jail. his work has divided people some think that it goes to fall while others think it's necessary to hold losing power to account. our very own michael ot caught up with him recently to find out more about the risk of his work and why he does what he does. there are lots of young people who are interested in becoming you like you. i mean exposing corruption in the countries. but they are of, you'll see a lot of telling this talk to them about some of the risk that investigative journalism on the come by investigative journalism faces. nobody should think that

coming into again, that is a, is a bed of roses. it is not going to be attacked. you are going to be suit in the football. it's kind of, i was sued 6 of 6 things. but here's a trick. the. if the stick to had color evidence, no, my pet this, you know my past the number of people will show you to will stop. it's all up to making sure that you check your security very well. you don't become trigger happy in just talking and mation and things that you do. you ensure that you follow a very simple techniques that i come explaining this interview, but it is difficult. my day is a way of surviving it. and i thing that i freak can use, has that capacity to survive this, don't you know my piece, if we don't solve our problems, we've been to solve, i, we expect to examine,

jam is to flight into our country to help us solve it. such a little across the continent, there have been several journalist 12 in affected who have been killed. would you still encourage the young people to get into this space where people are being killed and you have to hide your face cost monthly because people are coming out to you. certainly, see. we cannot take the freedom of that price for granted. and the fact that you have your freedoms that so mean that you should go to sleep. that is what we ought to be reminded of as game. at least. you see when we become complacent. and we think that that freedom we enjoy it was delivered to us on this, so i'm glad that that's when we begin to suffer. how do we riley ourselves so that i went to brad nice on the attack? because if you don't shouts to day, tomorrow is coming to you. they will blow us and dental is safety. international center. what is that all about? well, what sick,

what's the blue as and then at least 50 intermission is in that house in africa. and jen alice, who in the face of trouble have no way to boot, is a view of the role i play on that one. to many, many jim alice will face persecution. i'm the 1st point of the quote, and that will be hosting them for the past 10 years now. so this time i decided i want to official lies so that i can have a payment and shelter where these people will come and take some risk by 20 and or attack and use. and you also have the box on the projects on the resume, on a project in come a room where you are picking up on the story that was covered by a $10.00 towards merited. you get your symbol on that, the arizona project, this colleague martinez, no matter to me is a colleague. believe we as it in the ed talking. that's how i talked to him. we brought up one morning, he was showed that lucian, come up to jenn. i'll let you know that the fact that you've taken down one janet

list. that's no mean that we are sitting down. now we've monday to come together. we've monday to look for resources so that if you killed anybody that's a month away, we will put ourselves together. i lead that dalazana, arizona project and i can tell you is very effective and i bought from mine. there are several at the gym, at least i pro the well wells who came in helping exposing that bad deeds of people who killed you on my list. now the press freedom situation might seem disheartening, but some progress has been made. and you've gone to, the constitutional court struck down a provision of the computer nice is up. that was seen as the limitation of freedom of speech. but let's talk about how the journalist themselves view the state of press freedom in what kind of environment do they work. i will correspondents in uganda, kenya, and gonna be of us to be able to speak to the new governor. sometimes the line

between generalization and activities and can be blogs. for instance, many media organizations are owned by politicians. we on agenda. now these employee, as i've said to have it feed inflates from the reporting by the journalist. they how you sometimes and criticized politicians in state that you've done at least for being present. jordan, the 70 has previously described private media outlets in them is but also some colleagues into media proficient. how will flip joins punches in 4 digits, to dig some of the most prominent politicians, both in the government and deal position. such a different demo. with several newspapers, an over a $150.00 tv on regular channels has a pretty diverse media landscape. and while the posting in politics and media on a ship, the press here is still relatively free and able to criticize a 3rd. one famous kenyan example of an act of

a stern list is that the one photographer who trying to activism, author of experience a report on kenya is post election violence. you would like to known for driving, takes all the way to parliament and putting the word antiques, overindulging, members of parliament, and so well couldn't aside from the powers that be, may not be easy and tenure costs of many turn. let's take on corruption by policy says and public official is a major problem in gardner. it's offensive an ordinary pressing. or last, what's a, what's a good good policy, hullstead, quality education and mini mall. no reporting about this issue. 5 intuitive, again i live and that's what is that look for getting gen olives. and that's our roommate. one of the early on in his car. yeah. for about 2 decades. a goal for guessing corporate evidence to prosecute such a fish out meant he had to go on that. com. but he didn't come again, at least in dreams, that amounted corruption actively,

as what he said by governments with some public officials, declared rehab an enemy of the space. and if it's so now known gradstaff, unless hasn't become just a multi media documentary, myka fox now and leading activities for the ordinary people, look up to for sundays, and protecting them from the girl and abuse that it's always interesting to hear those insights from the ground now traditional journalism is hyper focused on the notion of objectivity, but some practitioners argue that in the face of injustice, that can be no objectivity. so they opened, they choose to be activists within the media for you, you know, a street debate. edith kimani endo pano tackle this scene line between journalism and activism and it's costing it really undermines. press integrity, the

hello and welcome back to the 77 percent street debate this week. we anybody in africa nor on the streets? we're home to the global medial for i'm one of the leading medium forums globally. thank you. it's no secret to those of you who live in africa. the media spaces are usually either not 3 or independence. and for that reason, sometimes it's a forced to do a work that they did not sign up for activities. so today we're going to ask, where is that line? if there is one in africa between journalism and activism? and today i have a girl just found out here with me look at those applicant, kind of a not less talked with you. what is activism? gym i'm of them puts you in that speech sway you get into activism, not because you want, but you find yourself in that speech. so what's the difference? i that kind of, gen, i live them. i do is naming shaming and gaming. and it works because i managed to

get people into jail and that complex of people what, what do you need to do as a result of the work i do so you can call them. yeah, and that's a risk. but i do, my, jen, i left them and it feels into active as a how do you define yourself? so do you see yourself more as an activist or as a junior? i see myself as i'm active. it's because of the end product that i get. okay, we wanna do you find yourself into situations as well, where you're, what sort of places you in situations that you didn't necessarily sign up for you? yes, i do. and i absolutely refuse that tag activist. i am shy away from me. so i run away from me why? because there's different types of activities and i think you feel no play the type of activity. so you all you do, that's when you do get into trouble. you uh, you got an active use based on your personal conviction. all your pronounced that activities by your job, all by the governments of the day who's upset about what you're doing. the people can also be active is because of the, i say,

shown the color means they have to perform a new wave activism. as jo nineties, i didn't find out, i think people from the activities to drill 90 somebody activities also of greed because it's of a read. yes. correct. like i said, so i said what i said, okay. unless you have something to add to that, and i totally disagree with because i think that she's not looking at the dean just we fees. there's no point in doing that piece of demo. somebody gets him up and what came up on the same street with that criminal. i see i would take you to jail . i testify i'd sure to have called evidence. we don't become active. it's because we love it's jim. i was gonna be a little bit cheap, but it's a serious business. i do have your rebuttal. i have to say, i look activism from the perspective of the don't toby drill, 94 q and for being a drug. and so i know the 1st time what i mean, my own father was 15 years ago for being a drone on his he wasn't even on investigative john. and so you can even get killed for being a call. them is a part of the. yeah, but i have another female, i'm always watching my bottom. nobody knows i was coming to a button,

for example. i just show up on my full staff sounds, which i'll read. yeah. well, i said is to say when you mix these activities in the problem is that home we see it means it's no longer you know to enough to be so i do not identify as one i will never identify as well. can you tell me why, i mean, this is something that is very deeply rooted if you'd like, like sort of like the getting the via the wrong. i will say that you kind of do john using doctors in proxy going by the book. i need to still in fact from i'm an example of that. when i did call dean people with very happy no way of being changed. but guess what? that was. so people that came to see i was paid by a foreign government because i, my son's name is german. you will always be called an activities which are that way you do your journalism and are in with spend. they don't. oh yes, because if i was doing the full day and for example,

my name would that be what's in these agreements, breeland's b, so forth. but anyway, if somebody doesn't go to do it, does it take away from the work that she did? it doesn't take. i went by the people want to seem too much, but you know, well the white people, but i'm seeing my brother and i'm talking about the work that made my mother have 50 made my brother pop the few with the front of me. i have a 6 i'm, i'm going to say change came and i do, i have different lives. i've been changed parts when opened offices where opened into ports for dean leg jobs for 4 months. what's a good company where we had not said that? well, that's not change, then my name is not bruno. so i'd like to hear from you all based on the what we've had yet today. do you still believe that these, that line between journalism and activism will have you shifted a little bit? there is a line i maintain, that there is a line. and for me, what would be important is that transpired and see that we know which side you're on. if you're a journalist and you, once, you're an activist, your journalist, whichever had to put him on, that's what's up. what time that is the key to your audience. so to have a,

the listening to you because of the media pushing it or they've done on this, you have so much power. there's so many for looking at to listening to you. some even how you want to evaluate like everything is they. they take it as it is. yeah . okay. almost. yeah, that's fine. um, yes. my own point is we will keep evolving us human beings, variety of journalists, those activities as advocates, that gary still in goal is change of political, social, whatever change. it says we're trying to drive goal. well, in looking at the next generation old, going to people who are thinking to come into journalism, i think what drives use key for them as it talks like it's a call him like this is like, i will see you in jail for ronald doesn't have seen joe, but he has to just expose the story of what you was coming in. so you do need to ask yourself, why are you coming for the absolute love of the i was because yes, no good job. you'll be nominated for an emmy. yeah, but that's not why this is because i didn't just need to go unable to sleep with. we've had done a lease. we know awards,

i'm lose piece in cost. the story didn't feel in. right. so we don't know what you want to know of what's happening. story about the floods that it doesn't speak right. so i don't actually going personally deciding, okay, i like to see people in general, so i'm going to enjoy it. become a journalist. i love people look like i'm not gonna be great on top of my face. that's what you want to do then. well, you need to consider why you're, what's, to what extent do you need to be on there. so you like the attention of the accolades or you know what, i'm going to do these because of the right thing to do for myself. i used motivation being the can i call you getting it for you? good. all right, go now. so for me, i mean, what i thought i quoted me was like, let's get just, i have a brother who was i might be so that was what motivated me wasn't any of what i think the, i mean was going to call. yeah. but for me, more important is the solution we need to buy from the tv shows about this, the big spring. so you know, practices use in practice. so i want to see the tools. i probably see people don't, but we don't see jo nineties on these don't people to engage me. they just say you're not cvc. don't know to do. john is in the all got one should be i'm not

supposed to be in the middle because i'm not young, but i'm not on the outside for you. we should try to overcome distributions. activism is not a bond, was, is not something that we kind of speak about what she says, let's be transferring. let's try to avoid putting all right to now cells because the audience sees the proof. i've done these governments already doing that. now guys, the news media, right. and the last but not least. so am i lance? part of my jen. i live them here in gym and i dream then. but once i arrived, i know there was seamless and that coverage. and i've also learned from the b, b, z of coming rules, apart from that the due date, code of ethics guides me as i work. so by the end of the day, i believe that we should ask ourselves the question. when we get into us, piece of that, how do i ensure that i get development? so jen, again, i see you full training. i see that you and i want to emphasize that is that the advertising just i was tired of the roots in system. yeah. and they want to see

a change. yeah. and if we wanted flicking partners or not, various countries, then we have to move towards more activism and i don't see any line of them and activities on us. thank you so so much. thank you to audience at the beginning of this debates, we us a very simple question. where is the line between activism and journalism? and as one of the people here said, it's just papa curio. that's when you try to find the sun. thank you all to a lovely audience here. thank you to kind of move and the usual. think thing. see if and you'll find a list for that insight when the beat. as always, you can check out the longer the lesson of that debate on a youtube channel and speaking of channels, you left us a few comments on no facebook page telling us what press freedom means to you. the 1st one is party for the campbell who sees press freedom is not press freedom when

the use of it abuse it, the jays have become journalist, social media. we thought verification has become a source of news. the 2nd coming from sally built in new sees i don't like, nor do i take news. you know, a country seriously because it is propaganda and they don't address our issues taunting george sees every country has a short it's citizens, freedom of speech. it's actually the freedom after the speech that is not available . and the last comment for today's show is from emmanuel coy, receive press freedom is important because this is the only way time or opportunity you have to read slot issues of national and international concert. thanks a lot for sharing your thoughts. we always appreciated and now press freedom is a very important topic, but it's

a lot to take in. so we're going to wind down with a visit to livingstone in, via, and we've go to a very on to a guide. okay. claudia was sewn to, to show us around, prepared to be blown away by the smoke. that event is, which is what the locals called the great victoria falls. i'm sure livingstone will, will you, with its people nature and a history enjoy. my name is the best the beach claudia was sunday. the 25 year old arrived in livingston 5 years ago. she wants to become the 1st female safari guide from her village, and livingston is not just that beautiful my capital, but also its tourism hub. named off the scottish explorer and the missionary doctor david livingston, the 1st european to see and document the impressive victoria falls in 18. 55. ok,

please obvious. most famous sign cloud you it takes us to the age of this m b, the river. this is called the pointing part of the worldly spot for young loved to get to gauge. livingstone happens to be so insomnia, and is this for the victoria? we have a lot to lay on people resisting the pause every a. and it's really amazing to see because that it's one of the 7. that's one that's of the walls. on average, 1000000 liters of water cascade down, victoria falls every single 2nd. does she, a spectacle evokes a sense of full and wonder locally, though they are known as most the what tooth or the smoke that fund?

and i believe when i went on god or in the next stuff, these livingston's very old national talk, just 10 minutes drive from the city center. we meet some of the cloud use the most special friends, the highly endangered white or square lipped rhinoceros. once thousands of ryan knows one to the plains of this m. b the river, but poaching has decimated then i'm. but today the livingston ryan knows us so precious that they are called it 247. this is the only place in the country, livingstone, where you get to see the rhino. so during call read, we had through a newborn babies. and now we've got females, 2 of them, which i expecting the numbers that multiplying. it's really, really good news from protecting africans most endangered animals to hosting a having the southern african trade hub and to being the gateway to one of the

world's most famous sites. livingston has it all. and that's what i saw for this week. we've shown you how young off weekends are using different forms of story tending to make the voices hot and report on what's happening around them. have they inspired you to do something similar. we'd love to hear your stories to connect with those on social media. you can find the 77 percent on youtube, instagram and now on take talk. you know, the deal by now. i'm going to leave you with something we'll be with it for. here is some part of the grade. we've had truck energy featuring nadeem, d, b c. thanks so much for watching and catch you in a late to show bye for now. realize all the time we least realize all of the read space on top of them in minute i've been my gosh,

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