the, the is it the w two's line from the telegram channel? a link to brushes? wagner grove says it's late a if got if it goes in is that the 3 groups had was listed as a passenger on board. private jets, which has crashed with no survivors, as it traveled from moscow, just increasing the welcome to the program, the leader of the wagner most indeed group is thought to be dead rational. it's

hard to say it's got if it goes it was listed as a passenger on a flight. they've crushed on route from moscow to some painters, but that's hard to say. own 10 people on board, the private jet with killed still. no, no, none of the print version was actually on the plane in june. and he's fights as most unfortunate attempt to take moscow after taking the regional capital roll stuff on down the valve in the group for the brutal bottle in ukraine for several months to take the city of basketball. well, 2 days before base that crash images proposing to show for gordon in an african country surface on social media. even video released on the messaging after telegram, he claimed that she's mostly of interest and was making africa free, a bottomless present in several african countries, including molly and the central african republic. why that popped up the autocratic regime in the video for gordon says the reason diminishing truly nisha was part of the nation's fight against what he called compromises. that's got most of my

report, dimitri pon, pon ya, vin. welcome demetrius. so what more do we know at this stage of? so let me just wrap up how the story has developed so far. so about 3 or 4 hours ago reports and words about a plane crash, all they had private jet in the, to the region. that's north of moscow, and there were reports about 10 people on board. and then actually, some was observers said that it was rather quicker than usual that this russian civilization officer. and you came up with this statement that actually precautions was among those 10 people who are on board and he was listed on the passenger list . so usually they say takes hours and hours or even days to actually even start thinking about who was there and stuff like that. so that kind of like experts. notice this kind of strange detail about, you know, them being really quickly with announcing exactly that. and now, so because this list has been made public by that authority and progression is

among the 7 people and 3 crew members on that list. and as, as we mentioned before, uh, several social media channels large the on that uh, telegram messaging up, linked or affiliated with the progression has confirmed have confirmed that he was actually dead and written notice the news agents reports that a bodies. so 10 people on board, a bodies were filed at the site, they quote, emergency services and finally, the prosecutor suffers a said that they are looking into all possible causes, including the engine malfunction and possible external impact. rice council generally accounts on social media who are reporting that a 2nd played, which precaution might have been traveling in. and boss has reached out to moscow. yeah, um, details about the 2nd flight emerged shortly after the news broke about the plane crash. and you know,

like with the websites where you contract most of the flies that happening around the world for a specialist, it was quite easy to find. they even mentioned that one of the planes that used uh was actually the one that pre gardens left for means of through the end of the mutiny from bosco for baylor, was so interesting. he left the 2nd flight belonging to the company of the garden was still in the air when the plane crash happened, they turned out, according to the data, it turned made a huge turn. it turned back to moscow and we know that had landed one of the most coast airport, but we don't have any details about who was actually on board. and i must say, like, following the accounts of the supporters of precaution, or like, uh, you know, journalists are active as supporting the warranty crane. it seemed like for some time, they hope that he actually was on the 2nd plane. and so it was this kind of suspension, right, like yeah, and precaution was not the only wagner a leader who was on the passenger. yes,

that is also quite interesting because there's not very often that the leadership of a military group of corporation kind of flight together for security purposes, especially as high profile kind of group of passengers as we would call them. right . so among the people who was announced on the passenger list was dimitri. what can be truth can is known as the actual military commander of the wagner group. and he actually is the person who use the code name wagner for his radio communications on the front line. and he's also one of the founders of the group. so we talk about progressions as the public face of butler. but the actual wagner doing the work on the battlefield anyway in the world where the group tells him to do was to meet you of can. so he was appears to be on the uh, on the plane as well. of course. uh, it, it wasn't made official that some progression or would kind of both died, so we will waive, so say, okay, thank you for that data be reported dmitri,

punjabi as well, so many years if again, if it goes in was that importance trusted ally? he rose from humble beginnings, hunting st. food and some petersburg to chef and k through a potent on the kremlin, is like to roll this head of the most regret behind, clear as rushes invasion of ukraine and folding his recent attempt to tumble moscow's military latest. pretty much odds with the crime. it is more on the most serious challenge to present potential for a few hours that looked like you have any pre goes, you can post a real threat to russian president vladimir putin hold on power. the world watched in suspense as provisions, wagner mercenary group seized control and rushed upon, done one of southern rushes biggest cities and then dance north towards the capital must go then several hours later, pre collision suddenly called off the operation. he said he wanted to prevent

bloodshed and that his intent was never to overthrow the government that way. up until the mutiny pre goshen was seen as a loyal ally of the kremlin leader. after serving a prison sentence for robbery, pre collision worked his way up to a successful restaurant owner in saint petersburg, earning him the nickname, put in chef, eventually a legit catering contracts for the russian government. his next business venture was quite different. the founding of private militia, known as the wagner group in 2014 the same year rush legally annex crime jo from ukraine pre collision also established in media group including a troll factory. the united states and other countries accused of trying to interfere in the elections. as after rushes full scale invasion of ukraine faltered, pre collision began hiring thousands of soldiers, including convicts to fight and wagner units eating the crumbling wherever they are

. perhaps biggest triumph was taking the eastern ukrainian city of buck mode. after months of fighting and in which watches regular army had been unable to prevail over ukraine, out for some of those automatic lot. but his progressing found himself more and more in the spotlight. he used it to rail against russia's military leadership and its conduct of the war, so that the, including the accusation that was not providing his mercenaries with ammunition. i want it and he's pretty good. he's viewed with the civilian leadership escalated when he refused to let his biters be put under defense ministry command when i bought it in you bold and so pre collision is launched. what he called a march for justice. i mean, we came here to put an end to the disgrace of our country. this year is a 1st step. what we're doing is right. it's to save russia. in moscow, a shocked vladimir putin called at treason a stab in the back in the middle of war. and he just didn't want to eat any

internal tom or alex use a deadly threat to last day to submit to us as a nation domestic. this will get the most, this is a blow. so russia to all people, but not from one and all actions to protect the fatherland from such a threat. if you did, you will be talking to the with the, just with his mute near boarded pretty goes in love, trust of on done to cheering crowds. but the weekend of chaos had looked at precarious future for himself. and his wagner empire has got more on this from the ministry. i'm just uh there in a mirror on from kings college, a bunch and welcome to d. w. marina. what went through your mind when you heard this news a good evening? well, and it was certainly a surprise that had happened so quickly, only 2 months after the mutiny. however, it is not surprising that put in would seek revenge and would want to show it to

his enemies that he is not going to tolerate any sort of treason. and this whole incident coincided with the motion of general sort of beacon. so it is also an interesting timing from that perspective. however, we don't know if pre gordon has actually died in this crash because apparently a 2nd plane which belongs to precaution lended safely in moscow. so we're still waiting to see what, what, what actually happened. okay, so you would see this as proteins, revenge? absolutely because um we have seen this in the past where traitors have been punished. they have either been poisoned or they died in helicopter crashes, or whoever was again, support in has map his dad's in one way or another. and in some cases, this was very symbolic and severe. in order to do deters the potential enemies from

between put in also on the passenger list was wagner groups found dimitri, our old king. so we have him and we have to goshen power and see now dad, where does that leave the voc, the group to well, it is interesting from the upper operation security perspective. it's interesting that both both get in for gordon would be traveling on the same job. that being said, they both are, that the bargaining group is essentially the cap that they did a. so would have to assume the quote and then his crew would have somebody in place to replace precaution because the risk progression was a populist leader. and so he has some 25000 well trained troops behind him who could seek vengeance for this killing or potential killing. they therefore,

put in must have calculated well in order to take out both and completed the capitals of group so that he or whoever it will be pointed to this role be able to take full control of wagner operations and everywhere we're walking. the risk operating currently. so we know this after the best rebellion, exactly at 2 months ago, lots of wagner troops was signed up to the russian, a defense administrative. but we know that wagner is also uh, operating in mineral rich areas of africa and making russia lots of money. isn't that on the population is likely to continue i think it will continue because there is a lot of money involved. then i think by taking out regarding who was a sort of a middle man for put in. um we have seen some attempts by put into um, take control of precautions operations. and i don't think that the african

operation will be an exception, especially as pensions rise when they african compton and, and night, year and, and so then in molly, so i think that's russia will continue to try to dominate african countries. however, this time it will be somebody else leading the operations there, and possibly the troops will remain in the african. right. thank you for that. i'm clear and fascinating as i've been ministry on the list and there in the mirror and from kings, comments, and on to thank you for having me. i've got watching that's got voucher from washington for my corresponded to now the do moment. welcome to the quick, what on what the white house has been saying about this as well? we know that the white house as brief, the president joe biden, they haven't said much beyond that, but for his part, joe biden has commented from lake tahoe, saying that although he didn't know exactly what happened,

he is not surprised. he also pointed out that very little happens in russia without vladimir putin being behind it and stressing again however, that he does not have all the information. it's worth noting, however, that he has been doing to joke about what could possibly happen to pre goes in to a press conference. and in helsinki last month, he said that if he were pray goes, and he would be careful what he ate, that he would he because i, on the menu, alluding perhaps to the potentially kremlin connected poisonings of critics and dissidents. if you look back to the white house reaction to the mutiny of wagner at the time, we remember that they were very circumspect that they proved that they prioritize making it clear that the us was not involved in any way. they called it an internal russian problem and that was because of the volatility of the situation. and that brings us to today. thank you for that to jump to the terminal in washington. so

reminder of that story then the telegram channel linked to the fog and the group says it's me that you've got if it goes and is dead, the most of the groups chief was listed as a passenger on board. private jets which was crashed with no survivors. india and washington. i'd set you up today. well, here's at the top of the hour or around the clock on the team w 14th avenue. don't have a good the shipping outdoor and we don't take money under your mommy's not coming back. over the february 2020 to russian troops and fated the ukrainian city of coupons. it was recaptured. 6 months later the occupation this hard drive under russian occupation.