it was a mini race to the mood between russia and india. and today india one, the moms. chun daria and 3 pro, touched out of the moon, south pole, the 1st to do so successfully. and following the failure of a russian mission, just days ago to india now joins a small club of nations alongside the us, russia and china that has successfully landed spacecraft on the move. so who controls access to all the mineral wealth for the bill that i'm feel go in the lane and this is the day the data be out to you guys on the moon in new york. but there's only some, it's not the big stuff that belongs to me.

i read them all as part of the men and the alarm also coming up russian, maybe a report say the head of the russian most and the group of wagner and failed to mutiny leaders. guinea pig goshen has been killed in a plane crash in russia. one of the passengers of this having passengers killed apparently, fog and i'm nursing their chief gifts getting the precaution. at least that's what the russian use agency reporting with reference to the russian or the asian woodstock or off of the yachts yachts. welcome to the day we begin with india, celebrating the successful noun landing of its ton dani and 3 spacecraft. as well as being a technical time for the success of a landing balloon at south pole. opens the door to exploring uncharted tara trace.

an area scientists believe could hold viable reserves or frozen water. a solar powered robot will collect the dates of after the next couple of weeks. india success comes just days after rushes, luna 25 craft crushed into the main mission accomplished chandra and 3 landed on the moon at 4 minutes past 6 pm. indian standard time admission controlled in bangalore. the relief was as great as the celebrations, the same when for prime minister modi at the break, somebody's in south africa, utah at this moment is the full filament. so the hot beats of 1400000000 people, it gives us new energy you believe and invigorates our country celebrations to in the planetarium in the capital daily. it's just a few days since the russian mission crashed at the luminous south pole. now the

indian mission will start collecting data that's kind of what can be used for other space programs in the coming time. probably, we can use the docks to take the human back to the lunar surface and also in the other 9 to 3 mission india. now has big plans for the space program, amount in space, flight and the construction of a space station or in the pipeline. those will be followed by on my missions to mars and venus. will dr. nonprofit go swami as an independent scholar of space policy and great power politics is also a co op of scrambled for the skies. great power competition to control the results as of outer space. welcome to the de delta, big day for india rise. yes, yes, it is. a big day also because as you pointed out in your report, is because is the 1st time that a mission has actually landed on the south for the river missions attempted earlier

. india tried to land in 2019 russia as you know, attempted to land just a few days ago. and so given the fact that the south full terrain is so difficult because of the lack of data. so this mission success mix it and enabling mission for those the mission. so they're going to come see the next few years. so yes, it's a big day for india. ok. and a lack of data about the south pole but, but the south pole somewhere a but a countries want to get to particularly just focus through why that is sure. because the salt full of the moon is that area of the moon that has resources like water ice, that can be turned into office agend for supporting human habitation. it also has resources like titanium, render aluminum magnesium that can be utilized. for example, if you want to set up a base on the moon. so that is why,

especially many countries are interested in that particular area, including the united states, china, russia, and now india. so that makes this particular area so strategic because it enables emissions that india will have to now look forward to for example in the. a is a partner to the united states. autumn is a court which is just sign in june. and the item is, of course, actually wants to be able to do restore civilization missions. and so that is why the south fall is so critical for those particular missions that are going to come in the next say, 5 to 10 years. okay, so it was quite an, a list of, of the minerals and the elements that you, that you listed there on. these are important thought and i, these are, these are useful in the electronics and clean technologies. so just isn't now going to be the wild west this, anyone who can get the gets a key, whatever they can stuff in that pocket or that rules that international traces. so

there are agreements, for example, you have the outer space pretty of 1967 that enables you to utilize space, but you cannot claim sovereignties very clear. and india is a signatory. so are all the autumn is accords countries? china is also the signature, insulates russia. so you already have root. you also have the 13 d, which has not been rectified by india or any other major space, very nations. so going forward, the hope is that you have an, a court like the autumn is a cord that lease down the principles, the norms and the responsible behavior. the countries have to agree to when they sign it. when the basically invest in missions that i'm looking for commercial capability on the moon. so we are not there yet in stock. so we are consensus, right? know that that was the executive for an i. i wanted to just clarify what not that

yet. at the moment, just because it looks technologically so far away, we have time. but anyone who can get up that fast can at the moment just fill the boots. so yes, because uh, for example, for india, this is the 1st time that it has actually landed on another celestial body. so that means that the item is a court countries have the capability real time to do the kind of lunar emissions. they hope china is going through the thoughtful of the moon and next year with the traveler 6, which is a lunar sample return mission. so there is a rush to the cellphone, given the fact that it has such strategic significance. and as you said, it is a little bit 1st come 1st serve, so whoever gets there 1st, we will have an advantage. the 1st move advantage like you have in low earth orbit and doesn't necessarily have to be a country if someone's super wealthy. like richard brands know jeff bays us wants

to have a go at setting up a moon mining company. would they have to apply to someone for a license, or can they just have that data? so according to the auto space pre t and the liability convention, states are responsible for the behavior of their private space actor. so even if they, as you asked the question, even if a law in moscow richard branson wants to go and do a mining activity, this do have to get the license from the state. they are registered to the liability convention mix the states that they are registered to liable for anything that can go wrong. so in the current regulatory pembroke, they will have to get permission from the states their registrar to they just kind of decide on their own that oh we want to go and set up a base and we will do it. we've already seen no just base model. see if i don't. and in the, in the last week or so. we have rushes, luna? 25 admission heading for the moon, south pole. and that's we overtake

a ton battery and 3, before it crash service sounds like an actual race with such high stakes. besides that, there's little incentive to, to trust any sort of international space traffic controllers, such as like, if you can get that you, you get veterans and the devil type behind most. so with the russian do not 25. so it does a mission that was planned for several years and it has been delayed and they also took a much more shorter trajectory to the moon. so they launched much later than india and fight to get their. 1 with more fuel and of course loss because of the propulsion technology, misfire readings when they tried to enter the elliptical orbit. so i think because russia do not 25 had such critical political implications. one, because uh, putting wanted to showcase russia as remaining a major space power also to create legitimacy for his redeem. and to find that it

crush undermines that particular desire office actually raised the stakes for the indian space mission for it to succeed. because india signed the ottomans the court . now it looks like a strategic alignment because it's happening. russia has joined the china. a lead international doing their research station, and it's collaborating with china to set up a research based on the moon by 2030 slaves. china already has the capability to go to the moon and land their economist, lee and off, and the india has it. and india, of course, assigned the arguments accord led by the us. so there is a rush at this point of time, and that's why it is extremely important that we have regulatory frameworks and normative guidelines that are going to determine how decisions play out. possibly i think thank you so much for outlining that so clearly for his doctor, doctor them number off on this. well, thank of the

of the leader of the fog, the most of the group is thought to be dead. russian or thoughts. you say you've got a precaution was listed as a passenger on a flight, the crushed on route from moscow to some painters, but as far as the sail 10 people on board the private jet were killed in june, who suffices lost unimportant attempt to take moscow after taking the regional capital vosta home done valve the group for the booth with battle in ukraine for several months to take the city a fact more let's look at this with nikolai petroff of the german institute for international and security. fast deputies of russian. i'm list constantine. i got to welcome both. i gotta start with you nikolai. i've always the stage as you're getting pre. gordon was on the passenger list of his a plane that crashed 2 months. exactly. since he's failed, rebellion people with a it happens to be say, this is more than just an accident. what went through your mind when you had this?

well, of course, there are a lot of conspiracy theories and it's still unknown. what are the reasons of these a plane crash? there are different scenarios, so that according to one p, it's caused by a web page. the fans and these files, according to another one. there were stairs to get the i can so boom, uh it boards. but uh, it looks like multiple live, you're getting you pretty good. but she is right. the and the commander of, of, of the golf course name followed with she has been used to meeting with kim, in the keels in vegas cash. right. so cost and same accidents, or plots at face is beneficial to effect for president opposing, whichever way you look at that there's this, oh, well, there are many ways of looking at it. there are some that the saying already that

food in strength of his position, that he washed away the shame of not being able to stop regarding 2 months ago in the fact that seemingly again allegedly the plane was hit by an air defense miss. so not far from the area where misses are indeed stationed near put into a residence in north western russia. so people say that it was a put and finally scored the point and destroyed his enemy. but all the other hand, uh, some commentators uh saying that basically the procrastination still costs putting a lot of his per steve model. but uh, one of the wits ro talked with about 15 minutes ago. the only conclusion from that is next time you stage, you cool, go all the way. and frankly, there is another consideration. what we've seen, the subject will be k, a piece, the lords i spoke to would pay an extra traditional execution of $10.00 russian

citizens in a civilian airplane by russian air defense in a box be referencing this puts in, that that helps puts in to run russia this is huge breaking of all the rules you don't do that like that. and in this respect, i think, uh, maybe we see a beginning of a new crisis in russia rather than the end of the garden or rebellion a really you, you're seeing a crisis protein because of extra additional cooling, which of course, he has been accused of time and time again, over the years. why would this one about being the, the potentially the beginning of the end for him as you well, is because i was killed in a mysterious aircraft or in a car crash, or even if he was gunned down by known killers, everyone that would have understood that this is probably probably the ground his

job, but it would be normal to use army air defense broke out of discount. a plane is something really grotesque. and this is something that will not be forgotten by hundreds of thousands of millions of russian civil servants who i used to play by. okay, very strict sometimes pollutants, but you do not use the all the for these things. that's very simple. and i think that this is so all the size of the big that to me will test that out till is just as a human being. i don't think that using such reports. so it proves it's right. it's rather proves the desire to prove strength, which is a completely different. so what source of inquiry do you think that will be? i'm, will anyone have any faith in it? or the questions to me, do you mean? no, i don't think there's going to be any inquiry. oh rather the inquiry is going to be superficial. but what we do not know yet is,

what will the russian propaganda call it? where they will say that it's the ukrainians. who did it wasn't able to say it was an x and then well that they will say that the garden was as they were sitting in june, actually a very famous uh, uh, mafioso in his previous life. and finally, some kind of a vengeance caught up with him and his people. oh, that may be a lot of stories. actually, my, my theory is that a russian propagandist property, i have a telegram channels of which there are thousands will launch so many versions of this event that people eventually just switch off. i think that's right, that's there. usually they can stop check themselves. i think just that you know we, we, we picture about that for technical reasons that i have lost the live pat job at the moment. so it's just you and me, constance, a is that of bob now without pre goshen and his right hand man,

as well as truly wagner grouped was not cold walking about accident. it was the uh, the nickname of the uh, known together as they were saying french the, the battle a nickname of uh, the committee who was a former g r u defendant candle and who created this private group pretty guard from, came in later to become a friend that's of the group for the benefit of foot, but uh, i think the know the group was because it and we'll see now whether it has new leaders coming up and then we'll see, well the brendan will do to those leaders even if they come up indeed, maybe, maybe it is the end of the vitamin group as an organized force because they are truly be headed in such and such a formations. usually need carriers metric leaders. in whom do people trust

right now they're all. so i think the maybe maybe that they've seen the beginning of the end of the group as an organized ministry full. and they call you at petroff of the drum is to do for international and security, your fantasies back with us. so welcome back. let's pick up a causing seems to a point that just don't what happens now within a box. and the head has been laptop caused a record of said, this is perhaps the beginning of the end. wherever you on that i would say that's the reason for you. what's your name was an attempt of the uh, well uh, defense main your street to get control over about the roof and speed. gordon didn't degree with these. now i think it's much easier for the military to get what remains from father go. and it's really appreciative how you doing agree

with constraints you, but it helps me this area to get these monitoring units. wage appear to be pretty much effective in the world, but it's hard to say with that will be possible for them to keep it in a it's a form a sheet, but at least we can say that maybe it's a report of the, of what you need to, to get presented us just like a big portion of the boards for a few slots. the group by the difference was either way get deeds. busy with people and so i say i'm cuz that's the government will certainly as right, so exploits each of their sags. that's fine. who is free to you? well, train chance. well, prepare it for the war, but it's got to predict. now whether it's going to be possible. busy to use it in a way, it's just been used on the board. and the me to think is that, but that's,

that's an interesting point, isn't it? we, we have the, the, at the wagner troops side, effectively signing that loyalty, add to the crime rates. those in ukraine, but better of the operations of a spread across africa. does those contain you but manage to buy the kremlin? would they would so soldiers at work as a for the kremlin nikolai stuff, you know, one of the conspiracy areas besides this, chris is connected with these mis cornflakes. and it's known that the origin of was flying from africa to st. petersburg can do. they have to be ships, at least these, the girl was just bill. these thought she was, you know, the conflict waste of the main military intelligence which was trying to just dental or what his actions in my lee and some papa and she can follow through. so he plans that although the big washer was too long to continue

to go in africa, the confusion via dms, to get dental, or what he's thought. infrastructure is preaching, march, and dances and width. uh, thoughts will be possible to continue the so that's where he needs to look that i'm closer to that, i guess we are talking about a lot of money when it comes to the sort of resources that, that wagner has been able to control across africa. so yes, and i think that that's why they probably will continue to use nurse there's and frankly speaking, oh maybe try. can you cry and you need more careers more then to do stuff. it says the rhetoric of republic or in molly for money. i think there is no shortage of people who will be willing to 7th this formations. um and i think that to you is

it's, it's a real possibility that the g r u will take this whole business over for the benefit of the chrome especially know that it's seen of top the included in your chair. so that's the criminal is developing a strategy to undermine westminster. and so basically, to district for the west, from the ukraine by creating problems for in west africa, of replacing rooms that uh, uh, helping the west to fight the psalm is there that i suppose that these new circumstances, the g r u, the crime in whatever. but with the rest of the machine will not set aside, will not forget the idea that the want that basically economic political induced a junior this year strategic interest in african defended. so i think that the most there's started will continue even if the bottom, the story is all right. and this i petrol. all this happening on the day. it was an

ounce. that's a general. so guy, uh, sort of between had been removed from his role as had of russia's that aerospace forces. it just seemed to be caught a lot of time on the top of russia's ministry. a yes, that's right, that's a very different explanations. why in general? so i became was replaced, and one of them is clearly connected with the new to me. and so the fact that so as you can, was playing the role from missouri to the twins maintenance of a command sounds pretty gordon displayed the image lake in this particular case, but they're not the explanation days that sort of you can is responsible for any c c, off rod from the fans system when it goes about your premium drones. and of course it's an irony that this seeing the you've just been announced that general sort of each of them is replaced. uh,

and the guy was to man zeros in defense. and so the forces have the same d. uh, well, uh, the boyfriend has been keels and so she has been to be ships with uh, in defense system, mont and constance. a, i'm a sort of a can, was made from under of russian forces in ukraine in october 10 months into the wall . he only lasted 3 months before he was replaced in that role. and now he's being replaced again in his new role. is this to him? or at the top of the russian metrics, or is this just how a pushing runs it? like i said, 3 years in the army as a duty officer, if you have a free come on, those are actually in this case they will not take full of changing at the top in

18 months, then that's definitely crisis. there's no doubt about that. reward is not going the way the crime and wanted it to go. and i think about a, so there is a search for something that's basically think will elude put up for some kind of very clever strategy and for some kind of deep thinking. but i pulled the 22 shops for the leading roles and the ministry, and most of the payments for the loyalty, it will be very, very difficult to find someone else hands. the crisis, right type of outside comes into an idea. i'm just causing team that i got a lot of rush analysts. thank you also to the nicholas petro from the german institute for international and security. a fast. it's not say to the day. yeah. that, that's, it's the day has come to an end. so i'll be back to the same time, same place tomorrow, between now and then. i will go to the,

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