[000:00:00;00] the the business, the w news live from berlin. russian officials say that wagner's chief, you have denny for, goshen, is presumed dead in a plane crash. aviation authority say that the mercenary leader from challenge to the kremlin, was on a plane that came down after the party moscow with no survivors.

the, i'm sarah kelly. welcome to the program. the leader of russia's back nor mercenary group is presumed to be dead. you have gainey per goshen was one of latter improvements most important allies until he led a june rebellion against moscow's military leadership. russian authority say that for goshen was listed as a passenger on a flight marble deck crashed en route from moscow to saint petersburg. all 10 people on board, the private chat were reportedly killed a telegram channel affiliated with the bag. there is also saying that provision died in the crash along with his deputy. and none of these reports however, had been independently verified. well since that short lived rebellion for goshen is whereabouts have been unknown in his fate has been a subject of intense speculation. it was initially thought that he had gone to deliver it most as part of an amnesty deal. but 2 days ago, he resurfaced in

a recruitment video so collated online that appeared to show him in africa you bundle. wagner maintains a military presence on the continental. and in the video for goshen seemed to indicate that it was business as usual for his mercenary. for you got the earlier i asked dw, is your ever shadow what more we know about that plane crash and the fate of you've got any precaution when no, sir, i've of this 7 dead passengers. you mentioned type in to v 3 crew members haven't been found and identified. we know from the national evasion authority at all on the opposite. that's a finance here on a fog, and i'll give you any precaution ends. they come on to offer wagner. dmitri, what can, what was the passenger list? what is still going to know? it was a precaution, it was actually among the passengers, which means among the that's now that is still not official conformation on this, just a report by the precaution, a few, a telegram channel grey's own and also we don't know what alton,

with the cost of the plane crash, whether the plane was a x load, it's from the inside or was shut down from the outside. that is evidence for both theories in both cases, a deliberate involvement, all of that awesome authorities, all just creepiness, couldn't be ruled out. given all of that, what has been the reaction in russia as well? there has been no official reaction from the kremlin so far. there is wild speculation, only the media about what really happened from the dramatic accident to the stage to crush. the social media is full of hateful and ironic comments and monday, suspect the big ocean is actually not a monkey that passengers folders i posted showing his face with different weeks. a search for disappeared off the mutiny 2 months ago, and it also became known at that time that's pretty goal is and it had to different passports with different names and different identities. was precautions still considered a threat to food and after his be me had failed and then he left or reportedly left

russia? well, i don't think that precaution poses a real fact will post a real catch because the russian president, according to the alleged agreement between put in and to be below rose and leave the question, go directly off to the newton issue. uh, 2 months ago, uh, precaution went floors to below those off to that she allegedly went to africa if you do it from, as they have was that received the publish decided, even though we don't know a, for that video west view and to where exactly to us record of how the we cons completely roll out the possibility that she's a soldiers could still be able to launch and you mean to be on new co against booty . but i think everybody is, are in russia. what's the cause of wondering when the goal is and it will finally be punished for he's muted you such a crash? would that please be logical as a penalty? but again, we don't know what actually caused it. and what is likely to happen now until the 25000 wagner fighters, who served under precaution a?

well, that's a good question indeed. if both lead us always involved in a group of business management on see up regarding the entropy literally the old can indeed the dad vans days of the wagner group as a unified military group. i over, i believe, luke, because despite all his group deeds sees marshal and crew, the appearance was a yeah, it kind of car is magic lead to at least for the pay to mass and where he's fighting on the front lines. so i can imagine that wagner units will no longer exist as a brand, but many of the soldiers a likely to, to wants to continue fighting as mercenaries is. the only question is, who pays to them? as a minister of defense pays well very well by russians down there. it's about apparently not as well as precaution, dw theory, or shadow. thank you. and in you'll be any promotions, home, city of st. petersburg supporters have begun erecting a mix strips memorial for the mercenary leader for goshen. story is

a remarkable one. he rose from being a feed vendor to become citizens, personal chef and the kremlin. his growing power as a mercenary leader became clear during bushes invasion of ukraine until his ultimate fall from favor or for a few hours. it looked like you have gave me pretty corrosion post. a real threat to russian president vladimir pretends hold on power the world watched in suspense, is people's insult. can imagine, recruit, seize, control, and will stuff on. don't one of southern rushes biggest cities, and then it fonts, news towards the capital must go then several hours later, for collusion, suddenly cooled off the operation. he said he wanted to prevent bloodshed and that his intent was never to overthrow the government right up until the mutiny precaution was seen as a loyal ally of the criminal need of to subbing a prison sentence for robbery. precaution worked his way up to become

a successful restaurant owner in saint petersburg and in him the nickname pretend chef, eventually led to catering contracts for the russian government. his next business venture was quite different though. founding a private munition known as the wagner group in 2014. the same year russia illegally onyx premier from ukraine. precaution also established a media group including a troll factory. the united states and other countries accuse of trying to interfere in elections. soft rushes invasion. if he crane salted precaution began hiring thousands of soldiers including convicts to fight and wagner units, aging the kremlin so effort. the perhaps biggest trial was taking the eastern ukrainian city of buck moved, often months of fighting in which bushes regular army had been unable to prevail over ukraine. but his precaution found himself more and more in the spotlight. he

used to rail against russia's military leadership and its conduct of the war, including the accusation that was not provide in his mass and raised without munitions on our that used to gordon's feud with disability and leadership escalated when he refused to let his find to be put on the defense ministry, come on, and so precaution notes to he called a much for justice. i mean, we came here to put an end to the disgrace of our country. this year is a 1st step. what we're doing is right. it's to save russia unless i see in moscow shopped loudly. may i please include it trees in a stop in the back in the middle of a little can you just let me do it? could be 3. is any internal turmoil is a deadly threat to us, statehood for me to be to us as a nation domestic. this will get the most. this is a blow. so russia to all people, but not from one of our actions to protect the fatherland from such

a threat digits will be tough to the what the just which is nice me a booted precaution left last of on don't to cheering crowds, but the weekend of kale should left to precarious future for himself and his balkan, the empire. the, in the days that followed the president putin embrace to support his trying to protect the strength of to precautions, extruding the challenge to his room. and earlier i asked marina my ronay defense analyst from king's college london. if she believes that promotion was indeed killed in that plane crash. good morning, sir. well, it's very different days because we don't really have any sort of verification. and if he is indeed the ad, this would have coined cited wisdom more than of general sort of beacon. so in terms of timing, it would be

a sort of symbolic 2 months after the mutiny. and the same days that the general survey can, who was allegedly involved to, to some degree in the mutiny or at least he had no edge, has been demoted and knowing, quote, and then how he treats his opponents. that wouldn't be surprising. however, what is interesting is that course and 2nd, wait and apparently was safe. and what we know is that his name was on the passenger list, but we don't know if he was on the plane. and from the operation security perspective, travelling together wasn't as a high profile person on the same plane would seem very unlikely because precaution wasn't stupid. and i think he knew exactly what the risks are. so then tell us, because i mean, you're very familiar with the military situation and the way that it might operate there. if he really is dead,

what sort of message do you think this sends to any prudent rivals or military leaders? and especially, you know, given that is these reports are happening and coinciding with the demotion of so he can that you've also mentioned or well, it will be a whole mark of put in through venge. because we have seen this before. um, when you we one put in use p. s. intelligent services such as a, b, c, r or the f us b to take out his opponents. and in some cases he's poisonings. in some cases, those were more brazen in order to deter potential opponents from acting out against 14. and i think because for golfing organize this new to me and it was colorized all over the world. everybody was watching. so his dad, if his dad has to be equally spectacular as to show who is still in power and that's put in will not tolerate any trees in the world. this loyalty. how about the

wagner mercenaries themselves? because we saw this absolutely spectacular aborted mutiny. is there the potential for those mercenaries who remain to make any further power moves, including against regular russian troops, for example, as well of production was really popular amongst his own soldiers. so it was more like a family. he was very charismatic leader. and so i think if put in, made this move for him, if he is indeed behind the face, the nation, he would have found somebody to replace a precaution, or at least he would have found the way to ensure that there wouldn't be any blow back from precautions mercenaries, because that is a risk. it's a very well trained group of some 25000 fighters. so removing decapitating the wagner if we could potentially backfire. and we have seen what progression was able

to do with those people or a fraction of those people as a matter of fact. so i think that and the reason we're seeing it now is because putting has found a solution on how to main thing control of that group. but i think um, psychologically the supporters of precaution, it was in the military. they, they might be upset, but i don't think they have the power to spend up or to organize and any sort of their own rebellion. so to say, because everything is well controlled and this was an electorate assess nation, is another display of what will happen if you actually do go against the regime. when you look at all of these moving parts, the reports that we have been seeing over the past 24 hours and just the general situation that you've also been seeing in the wake of the fails mutiny. how do you

predict that this will influence the fighting and ukraine as well right now we, we have seen that after precaution had withdrawn from you ukraine's that is the wagner group and nothing has really changed and even during his new to me and it didn't really have any effect on what was happening on the battlefield. so at least from now, i don't foresee any changes besides, some of his fighters did indeed sign the contract with a ministry of defense, meaning that they will most likely be deployed to ukraine. again, that being said, of course, put in has potentially lost a very effective tool which could be used to solve very difficult tasks on the battlefield, that the regular military is not capable of doing so down the line. it might be something that would be missing and put into arson old, but right now i don't foresee any changes for see defense analysts marina myron.

thank you. as always for sharing that expertise, we appreciate it. thank you for having a mid fevered speculation and an absence of verifiable facts. some of precautions supporters have pointed the figure of a plane at the russian state. others at ukraine. well, today is ukraine is marketing is the 2nd independence day since russia's invasion had of ukraine's national de audrey, your mac, who has the president, the load of yours. lensky is office, talked with dw news about how the war is going. he said the military still needs fighter jets and missiles from allies, but he still believes ukraine will be victorious against russia a miss day a month. thanks for receiving us. this is the 2nd time ukraine and celebrating its national holiday. and what time, what's your mood? was i that said that the this day gives me specially motions, decently useless. do see i see the unity of our country,

the actual window overall. if last year we were united to an extent. so with this year we have strong and united to prevail. so we'll put them up. so really, what is a strong feeling of pride took a whole pride for a country for pride. so a populace stand with us. uh, this is really a very profound emotion body date. we also took care of those a little care induce a machine. let's talk about the situation that a little bit at the front lines. the counter offensive lags behind the expectations, expectations, wherever a high that's true, but progress is very slow. what's the mistake was they don't think it was not the key to be know, this is a walk. you would need an opening for c 100 percent. sort of how things with you kind of what they see up with the most. i can only tell you a quote every day uh, we're making buyers law slay or so wouldn't it take, use it on

a couple of other normally said look really just this morning we came back from the very successful visits. charles, eaten the netherlands, denmark and greece, and you did align your rate, see, well, the list of those are, how do we conduct was very good. so pretty good. i have often arises key and alonzo off the ground forces. so soldiers reacts to the new key and we will have a very increasing number of f, a 16 fight the jets and um, they can have those acute is to when they shut you off laughter. it's not, it's even when you put it. and he replied that, that gives our soldiers additional motivation that the slot the, the goal at the school. and what do i feel national, i'm convinced of leave it rain in the skies very soon. with the more and the pilots they will be the top guns of the 21st century. they've gotten them with lots of specialists. the lead to the also talk about the tourist messiah gemini, is reluctant to deliver the tories messiah. yes, we have. i'm convinced the gym, and you decide to know

a favor on this question. so we have the brick summit going on. now, uniting russia plus 4 countries, but i'm not supporting ukraine and that represents 40 percent of the actual with the why are you scientists? how many bricks countries were present to jetta and they were support for the independence and territorial integrity of ukraine. and we see that today, the brick summit, he went by the president of the terrace country, russian. his absence breaks the num up president the great in the thirty's. they have been many countries and recent times including a visit by f, i completed a suspect. it came a pro, delayed pro to homeless daniel, which you also know politically. i am convinced that this hasn't changed. that position was this way of you to ask what is happening. i think bricks will be learning more powerful information without dreyer was the spot, the shipments but tools and then it blew them. yeah. ship them the seat. but all of

these countries do not join the sanctions again against russia. india and china argues incorporating military lead buying alms in russia. that's not the support for ukraine to my of the just keep it. that is, do you have clear confirmation of this cooperation? was that the middle will know we talked to these countries where we are in the constant dialogue. what's your estimate? how long will the, will this war still go on the ship level as out in the us? i will wish this victory must have been trying to put more head, not saving the 2 of our nation is unprecedented and you will know best. but it said that the mine used to be see it the. but i can tell you this as an employee was not in almost always because out there. sure. because it seems to me that we are close to victory the more sure when is the windows are boy nobody knows how long this period of time would last for them. but we have already come in on the waiting yet, and that's the city. and so whole near the city police, the world is on the side of the good to the,

the what is on the bright side of the people on our side. and that will lead to all victory the websites, and the people don't say we wish you, victor, what did they say in the who we trust me? well, but try it. so in a single word it, some people say this loudly some quietly like everybody's really leaves in our victory over the thing. cool. let me see that it's natural for them and that was andre. here. mac, the head of you, premium president polluted mirrors. landscapes office speaking with our correspondent mathias ballinger is moving on to other news. japan has started releasing treated radioactive water from the damage to pushing the nuclear power plant into the ocean. the plant was damaged and named earthquake, and so nami and 2011. more than 1300000 leaders of water used to cool the nuclear. ron's will be released over the next 30 years. the international atomic energy agency says that the diluted water will have minimal impact on the environment and

human health. protests have been held in japan and other countries, china condemned to japan as irresponsible and has banned some food. in ports. of springing georg stein, houser a professor of applied radio chemistry at the university, the technical university of vienna. welcome to the program, and thank you so much for joining us. so the japanese authorities are arguing that the nuclear waste water does not pose a threat to the ocean. how safe is it really? by large, i would have to just simply agree. the water that we are dealing with has been purified and has the teams berry already. and what is being released is basically harmless. you can say, you know, can terms, i could not think of anything more harmless than this waters. it only contains trio trigger means that redirect adviser told us hydrogen and can keep metals cannot remove this dis,

decides and so from the water. so basically the water is as clean as it gets good, but nevertheless, i mean there are some who have expressed concern. so can you just walk us through, i mean, what alternatives might have been considered to handle the foot cushing, the waste water, and how do they compare in terms of potential consequences? or i would say that the release of the retail water to the city is the best solution that is at hand. since i've told you already, that tells you methods cannot distinguish between uh the redirected water molecule and the non radiate bottom line too. but the same is also true for any organism or the human organism, or any marine light cannot distinguish between one or the other. that means this treat him containing water is not accumulated in any organism. it doesn't enrich anywhere. so it's taken out and it's introduced, excrete it again. so in terms of alternatives,

there have been some discussions about continuing storage that, in my opinion, for example, would be even, yeah, even more harmful. because the only factor that really plays into this distribution in the pacific ocean is the top that you think the volume that we can think of is the water was stored on land and in case of an earthquake spot, for example, some things with leak. they want this water. what uh, what does that lead into the ground water and has much lower volume, so got you. okay, well thank you for putting that into perspective and sharing that view. gale oaks, jon hauser, professor of applied for video chemistry. we appreciate that. absolutely. there's some other headlines making news around the world. voting is continuing for another day and zimbabwe general election. the electoral commission extended the pole in some areas after long delays in the capital, right. less than

a quarter of polling stations opened on time due to a lack of ballot papers. opposition parties have complained of irregularities, and warned that the result may be disputed. as a moscow court has extended the, the attention of us journalists, evan guest of age by another 3 months. the wall street journal reporter was arrested in march on espionage charges which carry a 20 year sentence. his newspaper has projected the accusations us republicans have held at the 1st televised debate of the 2024 race for president . a candidates took to the stage in milwaukee wisconsin, with the notable exception of front runner, donald trump, who skipped the event. despite his absence, there was a heated discussion over trump and his current legal travels, former trump lawyer, rudy giuliani has surrendered to authorities that a jail in georgia. he is facing charges relating to efforts to overturn trumps

election loss. in 2020 giuliani's bond was set at $150000.00 us dollars. the former new york mayor has denied wrong doing at least 26 workers have died after a railway bridge that they were building across abram being collapsed in india's eastern states of mutual wrong authority. say that many people who were working on the bridge at the time are still missing. rescue operations to find them are under way turn into some other news now in india is celebrating the successful moon landing of its tundra on 3 spacecraft. viewers in the control room, a rusted into chairs as a landing module, touch down. it is the 1st ever landing on the moon's unexplored south pole. india's prime minister watched the landing remotely and celebrated in a rather modest fashion. it's solar powered rover will explore the un charter,

the univision for the next 2 weeks. india success comes to stays after rushes. luna 25 craft crashed into the moon and we spoke with farmer nasa employee. keith calling about how difficult it is to pull this kind of mission off because they say this is bracket science. uh, it is not easy to wait another world and you usually have to practice. the difference is that india has been building up its capability over the past several decades. and uh, it stays in practice. where's the russian pro? they've been trying to launch that same mission for like several decades. and they hadn't really had a lot of practice. so the old adage, practice makes perfect, and i think the russians were a little bit more weighing on, you know, past the cheapest. where is the indians? very cautious and methodical, and it worked perfectly for them today. as you're watching data views, recapping our top story,

russian authorities say that the head of the fax number scenario group was on a plane that crashed, killing everyone on board. a telegram channel linked to wagner's, pronounced guinea propulsion that it comes 2 months after he left a mutiny against russia's military leadership. you're watching your news coming up next. it as complex down where i interview all has stuff in nature, not ukraine's deputy prime minister to stay with us for that. thank you so much for watching. take care

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