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spirit, we have to start in vice thing is in our defense and learning the lessons from the war and preventing brush up from having a hunger with the put in or without him to give the answer to the question that any aggression is possible. that's why security guarantees are the major instrument at this stage. it is possible we have a trust horse who reliable strong partners who have been supporting your bread militarily. and this support should be on the strategic basis. and this should be a signal also for the defense industries to be able to adjust their production based on this security guarantees. because the worst so last time. but our security guarantees from, from nato and nato partners even worth having even, it's not, it's a ton of collective or an individual basis. i mean, because you've had assurances before, i'm thinking back, you know, 19942008. and it appears to have meant nothing, as well as there's been a declaration,
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but not be guaranteed at so. and the declaration is not something that is needed because it would have plenty of them already of the various, uh, the various stages. but security guarantees is again about transferring ukraine defense capacity, sustainable and most of military supports for a long period of time based on the, on the targets out strengthening your brains, air, the sounds, land forces, and all the elements of that. and mess of a mess of engagement um through military defense supports, but also an immediate political response in case of another act of aggression based on the lessons we've already learned from this war earlier this year. and i'd like to turn now to ukraine's you emissions as well. um, earlier this year, the prime minister said that he had set what he called and ambitious goal of
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ukraine joining the you in 2 years. is it fair for ukraine and the ukrainian prime ministers who expect the you to grant membership that quickly as well? um, uh uh, what you meant by the, by this message is, but we will be ready for that as a country. so we're taking it as a whole worth of restructuring or reorienting our way of life on our operation based on the emissions on becoming a member of the u. r. a fully fleshed parts of the single market, the contributions to the single market and the your economy. so that would require a mess of legal and regulatory adjustment. so to our understanding and our plan and cycle is up to 2 years to make sure that we're capable to, to, to join the you add, provide, we'd spend, but by the end of the year, european leaders will take another. and i would say the less political decision to open the accession,
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thoughts to align our expression process with the reconstruction and financial support to that regard. but, but you know, there are some reports that are coming in. that's something you capitals have private lead, chastised both creating and officials for expecting the process to be completed in rapid time and the blocks leadership as well for encouraging those hopes. when you throw out time tables like 2 years aren't, aren't you raising false hopes among your public as well? again, we're talking about 2 years to build our own prepare desk for, for membership. and it's really important. and it is the way to communicate to uh, to people. um there's a very big difference between nature and uh, and you accession on the you, accession people in ukraine, 91 percent of the population support thing that they understand that either is already a formal process. it as well communicate to it's well controlled by civil society.
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so there is a huge leverage of knowledge in that regard. the part of the support itself. so i think that the major target for us is to make sure that we are competitive, strong and capable member of european union, and that our economies are only benefit from that. so at the stage we need to launch the expression of the docs to be able to uh, to have this negotiations and this stage for us, it's really important that it would be up your m technocratic negotiations process without delays, political delays, and etc. so much work has to be done, including further measures against corruption, tightening laws, against money laundering, and the excessive influence of ukraine's wealthy oligarchy. how do you expect to effectively do so during a full scale invasion? a worst situation, it usually increases, for example, the risk of corruption or, oh well i, i would on agree uh, and in the very fact that it is increases the risk of corruption. if it has to be
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very opposite the fact that all the instruments we've been trying to, to our legal and institutional system, they are no fully operational operational. but they are also backed up by a 0 tolerance to any corruption in times of war. especially if it comes to the uh to be administrative services or everything related to the functioning or, or the state. so it has to really and opposite the ellipse turned back to your defense to your security, which relies on billions in a from, from western partners and also equipment. it's been said that the u. s. and european countries have drawn down their own stocks without a clear plan to sustain high levels of military a. thereafter partners right now, also facing energy crisis, storing costs of living among their own domestic populations. how high is the risk that support at these levels might not hold? uh well, that's part of the answer to the question that we've been discussing before, and the security guarantees. this is exactly the substance of the security
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guarantees in training. the bi lateral engagement to develop your brain discounts, but also to give a strategic understanding on the european and your planting defense industry to make sure that the military support is sustainable and strategic. most worrying is the potential for us to port to wayne, increasing uncertainty about whether i can match its existing levels of aid and equipment. is currently being discussed, given a divided congress. a presidential election next year where some leading republican candidates have said the war is a territorial issue. how devastating would defend us support be for your defense as well? indeed, we understand that, that their congress might be divided on some issues, but it has never been divided on issues related to ukraine, ukraine, territorial integrity of serenity frames, aspirations, regardless of the name of the president of united states. so we have always had
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a strong bipartisan support and the state show we do a, a strong and coordinated efforts with the white house and the department of defense in terms of uh, in terms of sustainable planning of the military supports. packages of military supports and financial support, but there's nothing that could signal to us that basically these by parts of sport or ukraine will be undermined by any of the elements of dart boards. but we have to say, i mean, just last week, for example, president biden said that he believed and use that word, believed the us would have the funding to support ukraine as long as the tech's saying that he believes that it doesn't sound as confident as to us used to be as well. uh, he made the statement and uh, just today we have uh the announcement from the uh, from the us about the zation of another package from the military support that,
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of course, its not looking the way as the f. uh ukraine. uh you find out officials are sitting here waiting for for the last time. this was a daily job which has been done at chords nation with that with the white house and department of defense. so we have a very clear strategic perspective in that regard. and we do not have any reasons to consider that it will be changing for our french president francois molanda has said the following. he said that the way the were ends might depend on the outcome of the 2020 for us presidential election. and that i'm quoting here, if trump is elected, he will say, we stop here, whatever the russians have, they can keep the war cost too much. time is not on your side and this war is at or uh yes and, and uh the elections are taking place uh or the next year, but now we're in the summer of 2023. and we're, uh, we're in a beginning called with a mess of contra,
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essentially across the country offensive measures. this is the 1st thing, but i think the most important thing that, uh, why would the whole world be mobilized to a democratic world to be mobilized to support due credit because the whole world understands that we're sounding full, the democratic values. but the very important thing that it is ukrainians who were fight take will be fighting with their bare hands. and this was ukrainian school was tending 475 days of the 3 day war. and it's understanding that military supports allows us to save our people, to save our armed forces and to be capable and about the field of sophisticated that building the nature of standard itself. so uh, so i wouldn't, uh, i would them to put a, an equal sign between the military support the, the, and the victory and the war. because the whole world stands was you created, knowing that you created will find
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a will fight with any means we have for our independence and serenity. and that is clear to everybody and you were on this program last year. the morning after put an order troops into ukraine beginning the invasion. and i just like to ask you to do expect, did you imagine more than a year ago, the extent of the conflicts, the time, the damage, the casualties? well, we've learned a lot throughout this period and we are now living our lives knowing that we are ready for abilene high and living on the thread of living down to the nuclear black male on a daily basis. um also gives a sense of a bit different reality. we are ready for anything. stephanie prime minister, stephan each and i thank you so much for joining us on conflicts on thank you. the
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