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of the cause indeed of the names coming to life from berlin, desperate ukrainians are trying to get out of russian occupied territory. is a good one. it is possible. would you to the one to go home? would you believe a previous there we find out how some are prepared to make the risky escape to get back to areas under keith control. also coming up on the show has these sentences bring to senior members of the far right proud voice militia to tears. prosecutors have a severe head of the attack on the us capitol. now they're each facing more than a decade in prison.
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the inquiry, richardson, thank you very much for joining us. when russia launched its full scale invasion, millions of ukrainians found themselves living under occupation and russian propaganda, or that 18 months later many ukrainians are still looking for ways to escape occupied territories. one way is through enemy lands going into russia and then entering ukrainian controlled areas at the co. lo, to love cobb park grove, crossing in the country's northeast, the humanitarian court or allies between the ukrainian assume a region and the russian vehicle rod region. d. w. 's abraham visited a reception center near the crossing point and spoke with those who fled one side of a war to the other as they have a long road behind them. when russia attacked ukraine in february of last year,
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they suddenly found themselves under occupation. now they are back on ukrainian controlled land after a journey that last 2 days and 2 nights fashionable. and it was scary at their check points on the russians and they do not consider us ukrainians of human beings . we didn't know what to expect from them. the change and that the woman checking passports spoke aggressively to us and that's what i see like ella endured a lot under occupation. her team son had to flee after russians beat him up for expressing pro ukraine opinions. her husband could not find treatment for an injury and had to stop working. then russian authorities threatened to take her 2 small children away to a boarding school and pressured them to get russian passports. that's when i left field, she had to do everything to get away and borrowed money to flee
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a little nibble of him and we didn't have any money to leave earlier. we were ukrainians at heart. i've lived here for 40 years. i cannot simply forget that to become a russian and swear allegiance to them, but a salary and something might between 50 and a 150 people, enter ukrainian control territory through the cold at the last couple. crawford crossing every day. only ukrainians are allowed and if they don't have someone waiting for them, they're brought here. volunteers give them food, a police to rest and make a plan. the ukrainian border control also screens arrivals to read out potential saba tours. this volunteer tells me that people coming from places like the knots, which have been under russian sponsored control since 2014, are especially influenced by pollutants propaganda. it'll have to do much physics. it may stupid hands of the americans a minute like to say the boys politics can something sinks the top of the crate and
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so it doesn't exist that really needs that it's run by nazis flu. but mostly they just need help. after leaving almost everything behind for people leaving occupied territories, this is the last leg of their journey back to their lives. they bore trains to keep of hoping that whatever is waiting for them there is better than what they've left behind. i'm gonna show you some of the fun and the, the russians treat it as bad today. today. they constantly put pressure on people. they force people to switch to russian document. so i'm to work for them. but that way, so let me try to watch, coordinate. this is good news. i want it to end as soon as possible. i want to go home. i want to breathe freely there. so what's the, what are my plans? you? we were promised to aid with housing level, but you just don't know if there's a maybe we'll live somewhere on the floor. and when was the usually the officials
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here tell us around $22000.00 ukrainians. have fled, occupation since the start of the invasion. even if their 1st days living under ukrainian flag are difficult. authorities who more and more will make the choice. people in this train has made a thing to our reporter who file that report data views especial correspond to. abraham is just back from ukraine. she joins me now in the studio. hi a, i'm you mentioned there that some of those who are coming to ukrainian control territory. they've been under the influence of russian propaganda. and i'm just curious why they come to cleaning and control territories at all. if that's the case, it is a minority of people that are coming to ukrainian control territories. they, they're typically people who've been living under occupation for a long time. there of course, the territories that were occupied at the beginning of the full scale invasion. but there are also people that have been living in separate us control. there is since 2014, so there are different levels there. but we know that across the board at russia
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and russian authorities really try to bring people that lived there ukrainians. they lived there under the influence center we. we convince them of, of their propaganda. you know, why people come usually it's for economic reasons. we, you know, we don't really have access to what life is like under occupied territories, but from what people at the center told me, situation is very dire there. you know, they, some people told me that sometimes they didn't even have enough food. basics like bread, etc. so for a lot of people, especially old people who are living and occupied territories, coming back to her relatives in a, you know, in territories under ukrainian control is the most logical and most practical options that it can really, you know, cause a lot of tensions within families, i heard of one family where the grandmother was living under occupation, but her grandson was actually fighting for the premium site. so it's, it's, it's really, if you're really interesting stories of what happens once, you know, people will unite with their families who live, you know, on the other side of the war. but we know, and you know,
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especially speaking to volunteers, that russian authorities really try to target people in occupied territories, but also people, they're living in the border region. on the ukranian side, there are a telegram channels that you know, send up messages like, you know, it's the ukrainians that are striking every time there's our russian stripe and so on. and often times, people do believe that and it is somewhat of a challenge for ukrainian authorities throughout this for the propaganda war at the propaganda front, but they're having to fight as well. so for those who do decide to flee, to get back to printing controlled territory, how hard is it to go logistically to russian authorities just let people go? well, there's no guarantee that they'll let them through. there isn't like a russian official statements saying, any ukrainian who wants to be from, you know, occupied territories can, can, it can go to, uh, you know, the place that we were at. but for the most part, it seems that they're letting women through the people that sometimes have issues
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are young. man, these are the ones that uh, people there told me get stopped and really interrogated in these check points and sometimes returned back and told you can't, you can't, you know, cross over. and so it's a vague situation and it's a, it's, it is a risk because there's no guarantee that they'll let you through the check points. but the screening and authorities are urging people that can take advantage of that route to do. so it's a human terry inquiry door in the, in the northeast where we were also so address students and so on a take place, are there other routes that ukrainians can take out of occupation what, why do you think people choose this one in particular? yeah, it seems like it would be the more dangerous one because it's going through no rush or proper. but actually in some cases that's the most practical and shortest one. even though it takes 2 days and 2 nights with a bus and you have to arrange for, you know, people to drive you and pay them exuberant my different amounts of money to do so. of course, there are other ways that the people can't just go directly go west, because then they would go through, you know, the line and that is really,
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really dangerous. some people do go through that. of course there's a, there's an option to go through belarus and then enter through in countries like poland and then back into ukrainian control territories. but that is often not an option for people who have no documentation. i mean, after leaving under occupation there ukrainian documents may have been lost, but at this particular crossing, people can come with as little as a birth certificate. and volunteers told me of a man who, you know, got identified through a speeding ticket which i had had in the united ukrainian database. so it's, it is dangerous, but somehow in this very messed up and difficult situation is perhaps the most practical for some people. thank you so much for your reporting. we really appreciate you bringing us up to speed that is dw special correspondent, a for him to the united states. now where to former leaders of the right wing extremist group of the proud boys had been sentenced to prison for their role in the january 6 capital attack. zachary rail was given 15 years just hours after
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joseph begs received a 17 year sentence. prosecutor said they were key figures in the violent attempt to overturn the 2020 election results because of the sentence is one of the longest handed down in the capital riot cases for proud boys. members were already convicted of seditious conspiracy. in may. earlier we spoke to see how these correspond, janelle de malone in washington dc and asked to tell us more about the substantial prison terms given to the january 6th instigators. indeed, the sentences handed down to joseph biggs and zachary rail are along the harshest. so handed down in these cases related to january, 6th, a which by the way, they're over a 1000 now. and this really has to do with the gravity with which the judge saw the roles and instigating the attack on the capital. so basically, what the judge said, the judge in this case, timothy kelly said that this was a national disgrace. that january 6th, a harm the a, the
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a convent and american convention that supported the rule of law and the constitution that so an american tradition around the peaceful transfer of power had been broken and has been lost in the bigs case. he cited a big's role in tearing down barriers that allowed right, or is the search forward. and for him that was a meaningful and deliberate step to disrupt the electoral vote on going in the capital. at that time. in the rails case, he cited how rail sprayed police officers with chemical irritants. now both man cried in the court room. biggs said that his daughter needed them. real, said that he regretted his actions, but again, we're looking at 17 years for bigs. 15 years for rail and that represents so the 2nd and 3rd harsh has sought punishments made it out for january 6 respectively,
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with the harshest punishment still going to the oath keeper stewart rhodes, who got 18 years to does our correspondence. now, the milan reporting from washington, while the african union has suspended good bonds, membership after military officers seized power on wednesday. the military has closed the boarders and named the chief of the republican guard as a head of a transitional government. world leaders have condemned wednesday's crew, which ended more than 5 decades of the phone go family rule. good ones, opposition party has asked to be yours to recognize it's candidate as the winner of last week's elections. to have these correspondent on the central gomez following that crew for us. i asked him what signal the african union is sending by suspended in double walkway. it's uh glennie uh, a strong signal from the attic and you're gonna be a you a balance of when it comes to the association of cruise. we've seen all the
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confidence and many in west africa and now in the central africa with a gap on we've seen the house of a long, long time president audi bunco. basically austin to dine is still the bung with family, which is good for all of us. uh 5050, yes. a after can you don't have suspended pickup on onto the restoration of constitutional for that. and it shows that the african, you know, tell you, beginning to have a bit of a ration would be kind of coupons that they've got a good 1000 places like in the j monte booking at 5. so you need a now got boss or you perhaps it wants too many uh for the arctic engineer right now when it comes to cruise across the continent. yeah, you can imagine um, how do you think this suspension is going to actually affect events on the ground and go on? it's not the tricky part. okay. it's uh not clear how this uh, uh, will effect that uh, things on the ground floor. walk up on, don't forget, this is a country, it just about the median,
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mostly by just about 2000000 people in the country. so they'll also be having a bit of sanctions on them. so i will wait to see how it happens because it's still very much any days since that is good is me to take over. all right, it's a country that has seen lots of, you know, democratic rule of day by just one family and these be so many. yes. so i asked the sanctions go by as the day is good about that week, because i will see how we does read aspect things on the ground based tool. this phone week. i experience for many people on the goss incentive rate's in the house to offer any bulk of as our correspondent on the subject from reporting there. now let's get a reminder of our top stories at this hour. desperate ukrainians are free and russian occupied territory to get back to their homeland as people use risk a roots to undertake the escape and get back to areas under keeps control. and former leaders of the us extreme us group, proud boys have been sentenced to prison over the january 6th. the capital of tax
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prosecutors say they were key figures and the violent attempt to overturn to 2020 election results. the material that they ask us our, we have a documentary coming up next, looking at nato strengthening is control and the bone succeed. i'm surprised, impatient of you. thanks for watching this now, jerry is here, mauretania is a hands on mark track. we know is this one of the great dreams and the grim reality the sahara was pale. i swear what remains? i just want to be for the house on the edge of this a hard on the last shelter start september, 2nd on dw.

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