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to our sports, all of our scoring we say they were about never giving up sports flies every weekend on dw, the is this a state of the news africa coming up on the programs? firstenergy and now the bond way, will the army sees power next in africa? the qu into bond is the latest in the spring of military takeovers in africa since 2020. we offer a world expect once treated this uptake and cruise, and who will be next? well, since coming up, mays is a staple food and kind of a climate change a is bringing drought, show me the growing season, and also leaving the prop, rotate in the much concrete is hope you have a riots he's can say the farm is this office. can you launch is the biggest full
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meals program in all of africa starting and i wrote it wants to provide daily lunches for 4000000000 primary school children. the hello i'm christine will do i. it's good to have your company. and now the african leda toppled by the army whose turn would it be next? the full of good bones. lita ali bundle has wrestled the continent, torture cracks and democrats like kangaroo and wanda. both made hiring changes to the top military within hours of the crew. in liberal, and they have good reason to be nervous. since world war 245 of the continents 54 countries have suffered,
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attempted cruise and military takeovers. on the rise again. now, i'll be asking an expert what's driving this crew contagion. the 1st, here's a look at events in gabon cuban in scenes from the streets as a company capital. after nearly 56 years from the family who the political dentist, the reserve shown by its own presidential republican god, the spend down to so much time, many are excited at the prospect of change model. we've had enough of the p d g party and they've ruled us for decades. the blips, they never won any election on this. i mean, if it makes you hours later, the army named general bruce on a, d and d, my cousin, a founders as the new transitional president. if the 2 is successful, this will be the 6th african country where the military has ceased power since 2020
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. how sick president of the bundle in denver had claimed victory and last weekend's elections. but me a minutes after his reading was in that senior military offices. now the results and stage to put now under has the rest funds. i released the message asking it well for help from echo on to the president of the n, i'm to send a message to our defense that we have ordered. we're going to make notes to make noise for the people here after recently, many inc about hosting the change in leadership will bring up the i to future. and so now the international community currently works on the site to the coo and good one is just the latest and the stream of recent military takeovers on the african continent. 5 of the countries in the region have also seen crews most
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recently initiated last month. in 2022. booking a fossil soul to coaches in less than 9 months. and the 2020 ones, the guns prime minister of the handle, was ousted by military force. the same yet gimme and money experienced their own cuz the task to and for more on this my 1st guess today is john chon, at the carnegie mellon institute for security and technology. welcome to data of the news africa. and you've published fascinating research into all clues, worldwide, going back to 1945 in africa, as you've observed, is the global if a central cruise does you want to just start by telling us more about your main findings, professor yeah, well the 1st thing i'm important finding is that not all kids are the same. so when we talk about their being the resurgence of cruise in africa,
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there's actually been multiple research and says, because we can distinguish between on the one hand, for example, we're seeing change twos that seek to say over throw democratically elected government. as recently happened to niger or leader were shuffling twos that in fact, are trying to preserve the incumbent regime like we saw in chat just a few years ago to try to come to tablet w rushing and continue empower motors such. so there is a lot of variety of shoes and that actually makes it more particularly difficult to gain traction to say in general about what are the causes for example of the recent to wave in africa. but that is a fact what we, we try to do, right? and as you've highlighted in your, in your research, there were frequent crews in africa during the cold war era. why was it so as well, there are lots of reasons that go to structural factors including the problems
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of democratic developments that following independence, poverty, low levels of education, week, democratic civil societies, as well as a particularly mental, some ethnic politics and many countries. so that in fact, the state became a prize for many different ethnic groups and a business individuals in africa as well as other regions during the cold war that, that made uh cruise a particularly attractive option to try to seize power as well as rims. yeah, and then there was this decade right uh from 2007 to 2018 where you point out there was not a single qu, attempt in africa, but then in the 2 years from 2022 to 2022. there were 11 qu, attempt attempts, now add to a new share and the bond that takes us to 13,
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what would you say has sparked this resurgence of cruise? i think it's, as you quoted as well. the 1st thing we looked at was did it have something to do with the global color pandemic? because the way it really started to take off around 2020, at the same time as depend demik. and it turns out we didn't really find much if any evidence of that, in fact it's some of the more traditional suspects that we think are most closely associated with research. and so again, poverty dilemma as of democratic development. of course, in the various cases in west africa, which have been the majority of cases prominent as well as long as i'm starting to use have also played an important role. and how much of a role have outside influence has played france and russia. the role that they are playing, and in some of these countries, do they have a part to play or is it so the local factors?
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well, outside actors have a role to play. i don't think they really had much of a causal role. sort of triggering the recent cool resurgence there have been you know, reports that don't go back in a group, you know, being an important matter. and some of these countries, of course, france and the united states have also been active with military training. i'm still on to a close as long as insurgencies across this, the help, but i don't think it's any of the outside actors who are quote unquote to blame. i do think that it is largely local and regional dynamics that are at play here. and so we're based off of now 30 includes that we have seen in africa since 2020 so many of them have had public support points initially and to the logics. been gone. i'm just one did of the ones that we've had before.
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these 2, what results have these military takeovers had? have they delivered on their promise? uh uh, well not all of them made the same uh promises um. but for those that did promise a quick return to elected constitutional democratic rule, those promises have largely gone unfulfilled. and although a number of military hunters in the region have made promises under pressure threat of sanctions or actually impose sanctions from echo los the united states, france and others. so you know, once sanctions are lifted, promises are often revoked. and so we haven't really seen a successful returns of democracy in any of these countries. purposely you say that the response uh by the international community to a who makes a difference. tell us more about the response to cruise in africa and how that's
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impacted military june test as well. 1 of course, uh, 2 plotters have to be strategic if they want to seize and keep power. and so one important factor in the calculus of a to potter is to gauge what they think the international reaction will be. of course, if a hammer of sanctions comes down and makes it very difficult to stay empower. and so the idea of trying to launch a few in the 1st place is reduced. so active diplomacy by the international community to either reverse cues which is very difficult, but more likely and all of these cases to try to shorten the duration of post qu, regimes is, can play an important role. that kind of active diplomacy was much rare during the cold war, which of course made africa a more permissive environment for cruise in that period. and the post cold war
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period. uh, antique qu, norms developed, especially in regional international organizations, such as the african union. and echo laws as well as with other a for an aide donors. and so continuing to uphold anti coon arms, i think is really important to ensure that hopefully we can see the resurgence of who has come to an end and continue democratic development in the region. this uptake in cruise that started in 2020 are we likely to see that continue and, and because you told us through what you mean by the phrase cool contagion. unfortunately, i do think that we're going to continue to see co activity and africa the scholars of carriers when we talk about crew contagion, we are really thinking of cruise, almost like a virus, how they might spread from one patients to another or victim to another.
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and the question is, is, is to activity in one country influencing or making to activity in another country . more likely. and it's actually very difficult to say whether, how the extent to which that is the case in the recent qu way, there is circumstantial evidence of coo contagion. we know, for example, that there um, some of the cooper waters have trained together. and in paris for example, and so that there are some personal connections between some of some of the crew leaders, but there's definitely no smoking, gun, adams. and so, you know, i mean, absence of that one might have to assume that local domestic factors will still right be the dominant one to activity moving force. you said professor, that countries with the rece includes all at risk of falling into the crude trap.
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is it possible to assess the criteria and say which country might be vulnerable in the future? it is very difficult. i am working with some scholars in the such as fix the machine learning department here at c, m u. so try to develop called this cast, a new forecasting model to do exactly what you're asking. unfortunately, it's still a little premature. we're not quite ready to launch. however, having said that, it, it is logical to assume that country is that look like those that have had cruise recently in terms of structural factors, should be those that are most at risk. my brilliant colleague, kelly bar to us, for example, thinks that paul p a. m kam, around uh, should be quite works like, uh, i'll go and his father. uh, he's a long time dictator. uh and the country,
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that's quite dependents on france. and you can imagine that a hope he'll be taking steps to try to secure his rule moving forward. yeah. and you mentioned good one day. did you see this one coming up? i did not. uh and, but that's the thing about cuz uh uh, to be successful you, you don't see them coming up very, very easily. uh. so the fact that us to us in the region what happened? yes, quite likely that this particular to would strike upon and be led by the head of the republican guard in the wake of the recent election. uh no, i actually didn't see that coming well set fascinating stuff. perfect. so we appreciate your time here and data we can use africa's. that's john chin at the carnegie mellon institute for security and technology. thank you. are
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now in response to the clue initiate a month ago. the costs broke of african states has impose sanctions, and that means provisions are getting scarce in the landlocked country. now to a very is a city on the niger river, just 120 kilometers north of the capital and them. and as our next report chose residents, they are feeding, they will fix up sanctions. 7 down with a cold us least and wants to write to us and to levy the furious for them. it's clear who is responsible for the dire situation sang since imposed, but it to us and fronts. a close ally of the over the phone government the with very happy that the minute truth taken out. in fact, over the last few years we've suffered so much because of regional insecurity. had their no job, we've only moved to an agriculture, an outcast. so but then the terrorist took all the animals and killed on men and
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sons having the home. and the government has done absolutely nothing about it. you know, the, but i mean, i do think the at the local market. customers can still find staples, that price. but fewer and fewer people can afford to buy them. you know, what we really want now that the military has taken control, is that they go to the shopkeepers and get them to lower prices. they need to have pity on us. i'm not going eco was say they're going to do this or sash if the general is really low of new share, as they always say, then they should at least lower the price is that the bill was the facility priest, the spring of the $391.00 a one we price, the gods that the high prices will come down with that. so then we can go back to our old prices. then our customers will be happy when they take,
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i mean, even people in a good salary like n g o worker type, who am i to us traveling to make ends meet every week you sense of back of rise to the campus in the am a to see, to extend that family was full wives and 9 children is lucky to be getting any advice its own moody. all right, so as we import hearing these year just isn't getting to us any more. and if you look without tasks here, there's only local rice for new share, which isn't enough for everyone to do the look. color on demand is making the price shoes up even with local rice to the every week. the price goes up by $25.00 francs . of course i think this, the best thing for us to localize is clone just to kind of way to away from the market on the 1st of the night. although the price for his crop has gone up by summer evenings i called, he says he's not the one making a profit which ever government is in power. which i don't know,
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the high cost of rice is not directly related to the current situation. so put more to the availability of fertilizer, as well as the diesel to run the pumps, the irrigation r plantation important to wherever you look the streets of the once bustling town are empty tray, it has stopped to every small hobble where no goods are coming in the situation is getting worse every day. the next to gonna, we may have is one of the most important food prompts spots unpredictable with passions driven by climate change or making it increasingly difficult for farm is in africa to plan you risk rein schools, flats and droughts in quick succession with a very short growing season in between this year, the rains that usually come in april failed, putting farm is months behind schedule. and then in august heavy,
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waiting for the north, causing flooding. dw mets also reports from gun is northeast region. then the other moves that any sound good, a subdivision one become the yams, and so we have these degree of the season completely gone. most of them is corrupt . is rotten in the flood water? a lot of them have support as you go see. and what as got it, everything our we know 11 that they have left is not what we are picking. not the flooding means the comb. how set to jameton right out of the husk days? very little does is good to eat. no, no, no. what i've got a that way. i'm sorry. we don't have any alternative. i'll pay, you know, school fees, seat in the family and also leaving something for images is like diseases and all the things elia. do you see the families had come into themselves?
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lucky. what would the ways of the april give them reason to hold for a good half list, but it don't pour in august worst a we those hopes and much more. besides miss rose bridges, homes blown people. yeah. we're dependent on this. he has harvest now and across the lead from everything has been washed away. model was when, oh, much for the water. grew up hundreds of people like that because not in gym by the last the home up. he says that if hell does not come, he may have to leave work. i'm about to minute this kind of dissolved that has never happened to us yet. to do it. i know it's so strange to see this in the village where i was born uncommitted in my novel wilks. i came into the rooms and got a unit. i'm back and people had up to here, but it might be either the, i've never seen this kind of thing before like our that it was only run by but plummet. change is always a schultz and india growing season in bringing drought. these cris challenges for
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crop. read this he at the have been waking to produce new varieties that much will quickly and that totally the dryness in areas where the season has become shorter and was returned my seminar drought. some of these any my turing varieties. how find this to the resilience and to be able to cope with this problem. we have also develop that we legal rights he's, that's a job totally runs any time. indeed. each time he did krupps grow, reputable a during the short term with the season before the drought says the reality is confronting farm is here. yeah, yeah. and it has on try out the new varieties 5 years ago after diseases became unpredictable. i then got phone call you and you continued to follow the old southern plan. you'll miss the season to put the bottom bottom. we thought of the scientists innovations we don't get lost is from yeah, yes, source,
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both drug totally runs and any maturing varieties. he says he's getting better yellows. non done, he did, we did was he used to plans, as he would live to see if thomas using the new varieties to and finally to kenya, which has one of the strongest economies on the african continent. yet many canyon stuff. of poverty and hunger, even in the capital, nairobi that's way africa's largest school meal program has just been launched. the goal is to feed 4000000 primary school children. acosta of canyon children are living with stunted growth due to mon nutrition. this new program sits out to change that we have this report from one go primary school. in the canyon capital with mariel, miller takes up the story of the filtered
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window and usually get this excited at applications visit. these ones attending the name of never is governor johnson psychiatry has turned up with a room school meal for them. so 6, very happy. they bought a food. very happy, go very odd. but it's good. at least it's not a little. each can has may well, this is the meds may rubies given the hopes, the new school year program were put, an end to hunger and the school year. together with a non profit organization, food for education, the city has built 10 environmentally friendly kitchens across the capital. they're aiming to feed health a 1000000 children and they will be alone by the end of next year. it's part of a nationwide at the, to more than doubled the number of children receiving school meals up from 1.6 to 4000000 when completed will be the largest school music program on the continent to
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do with lab. that's all a to, to the public schools are going to be eating food in spirit. there are a lot of new school development. there's no doesn't roads and buildings development means investing in over the assets. and our biggest asset is our people. and most of our children in the rubies poor is neighborhoods many children, since you don't go to school because they have to work to earn money for their food . often it's just one meal a day. rising food prices have made much less. the cost of may's meal staple has doubled. 8 well could say that a quarter of canyon children are living with stunted growth due to mom attrition. but even some of those being given food at school are still going hungry. oh, it's been very difficult because some children only eat a portion of their food and take the rest home. well, because i don't have any food there. so it's important because i'm only concentrating costs if you eat well. the reason i haven't eaten con line,
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they sleep in class and you're not, i level class. now parents only have to chip in for us cents per me or the government has allocated $36000000.00 us dollars for the program. and that is likely to have enough money. schools expect a sharp increase in student enrolled. right now we have uh, around $4700.00. the apple we expect even vin number can also double. and you can see that for us to get to that, to have maybe the government can look at it. that's getting hot by local facilities that many schools already have more children than they can cope with. but the government has and business plans. he says, up to $6000.00 new classrooms will be built over the next 3 years. for now, children here know they'll have a warm meal every day. yeah. and they just have to continue this event and data come to you should do the same. i am. so happy to do, thanks. i and that is the finale,
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