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tv   Close up  Deutsche Welle  September 5, 2023 11:30pm-12:00am CEST

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to say what's not, what makes the jamming is just in the jail love and binding thing. step away from the spot. i'm not even allowed to go to my own car. i'm everyone with later holes and every single day. just getting you ready to meet the gym and then join me, right. just do it on dw the so that's all i don't know where she is not to be there, but a lot of the things that you want to that's once a man no. the commission is not there to say what their project is successful or not that we don't have the success of a project is evaluating. just decided assessed by members. nobody we managed to
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solve the counties longstanding ways. the problem is with that, no think they live somewhere else and they can't experience what it's like to live by a landfill. that's the situation. unfortunately, not afraid of me. somebody really doesn't want us to see this. i think no one in the ring mine anyways, management operator one take over the system as it is now to try to fix the most of the materials to, to, to the source. just don't think that this is it took off for it to use and choose county romania over 12 years to bid this new waste management center and bring it online. it replaces the infamous path that it waste. i'm a giant, is it?
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he goes to send a t i'm here to find out if millions of yours european tax past money, but literally wasted here on is after a long delay. this new dispos inside could be passed audits happily as i've done spoiler, it's not, i know straight away that something is off when i see drone footage of the land to shot on the day of our visit. and the 1st thing i support is this tire the the tires, just the 1st to secret that the people in charge apparently don't want us or anyone else to see the operate to ignore our requests for permission to fit them inside the dispos aside. slightly suspicious considering it just opened the c o. 2 is not
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poker and romania has a reputation for poor waste management. a few 100 meters from the land for a secular meant that has long been known as europe's biggest waste schedule. more than 1500 rule, not people left yet somewhat driven by poverty to move and work us ways pick us as us were evicted from the city the every day they experience life and the shadow of a poorly run garbage dump. that means that ad toxic grounds and living without running water in the homes. right and the european union
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between 20142020 of it, a well spent free 118 point. 2000000. euro on waste management in romania, a large chunk of it, educated for closing sap spend the lenses like the one and cut that it into a loan. you invested around 14000000 euros and waste projects up to 20. 20 the money from the so called structure. the funds supposed to create equal environmental standards and equal standards of living across the floor in who only wants to be identified by his 1st name has list next to the ord waste dump. almost all office life company wouldn't control when it rains. the smell is unbearable. because of the
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dreadful stench of the cabbage dumps. not all the important thing. there's a lot of much hope you're not going to children often come to school. so you get more chosen and then they have to leave again to clean the shoes because the schools won't let them in and took a little something the same classes. the appropriate way is the 2nd problem is the diseases we accumulated over time team for really been a lot of people have passed away since we moved here from the foot comfortable thoughts on each the she might of the vast majority of them got cancer because the hair was so bad, it's full of microbes and all these things seemed shamia and slowly. so we knew a lot of our kids cool me cold football fan when you can see in austin, when you think about all of this money, do you feel that it's actually reaching you as it hasn't done anything for you? nonsense and thoughtful when i felt absolutely nothing because for us, nothing changed. something brought up. so what do you mean? i'm talking about a standard of living and run even when you thought i didn't even with it that i,
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it's very difficult with little money and very low salaries image. and so i'm going to, can we try to avoid the sight of this garbage dump because in the past, it was a shame for us internally, one thing to tell your friends or coworkers where you live or to invite someone over to them to see this place was a little bit shameful. the on the request, it'll be a little she knows flooring works as a garbage truck driver. you seen different times and cut that it come and stay. oscars figured out by the way, this the, on the site where i dumped the garbage for at least 6 or 7 years. telephone thing, shots are so shop to the fact that there's always at the bottom where you can see the grass growing. there was the old dom ruffles that i'm finding a dump that was set up before i was born. got
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a site and i'm 50 years old. like a roman called coolly options as young. so this as the ord pet rent what it looked like before. somewhere around here is where flooring this romania joined you in 2007. they were given the deadline until 2009 to close this done. on the impression from the you commission, authorities only start to to shut down the landfill in 2015. but the new waste management center wasn't ready. instead and created waste went to a new temporary dump. it took 5 more years for the ord, langford to be rehabilitated. and another free. yes until april the 20 and 23. for the new facility to be the except for the operational remembering use tile, let me tell you why it's
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a drug issue credit because use tie as a one of the items that i've been from going to land fits and the european union as a hazardous waste liquids flattering of the items and any uncreated waste. land funding is the most tom for form of waste dispos that he wants to limit the amount of municipal waste buried in the ground to 10 percent by 2045 at least officially some countries in northern europe have all most midland filling history. why romania, scott bitch misses the target by a long shot, 51 percent of romanian waste was land fitted in 2020. the country also has the most eco dams on the continent over $13000.00. according to the latest estimates, the european commission took romania to the european court of justice twice fulfilling to close land for the
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fewest counties cafeteria, choosing a poca as an economically booming city and romania as transylvania region. the center looks incredibly keen, and we even found this state of the smart waste bins to separate waste and stored underground. the . let's have a quick look at the use woods for waste. the main goal is to reduce it by producing less waste by compositing, really using and recycling in romania, the recycling rate for municipal waste the set 14 percent compared to 49 percent and you countries on average so when the process of things going wrong and huge to find out,
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we went all the way back in the waste chain, from the land food to the garbage. been because to be recycled, waste has to 1st be separated and collected separately. we're in a residential area who is not poco 1st impressions, people lining up to recycle plastic boxes. this is separate from generally, the waste collection. people get free best tickets in exchange for plastic boxes. the and we see different bins for different types of trash of the you guys recycled your way. sometimes sometimes this was sometimes he doesn't make sense because the same car is taking the garbage. so if it is not actually recycling, there's one called the phone to pick everything. and then it happens right in front
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of our eyes. the truck says today we are collecting paper, but they're also collecting everything. it's from differently labeled bins. it makes me wonder, is this just a one off some walk? i was not following the rules or is this done across the board system? magic key, the early the next morning we meet shunned or cutters for he's a waste expert who used to be in charge of waste management in another town in romania and now run. so recycling business. as an activist, you awesome tracks. the municipal waste includes the after
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a few minutes we start the 1st garbage truck chapel. import caught this. if it does show you chuck here we can see that unfortunately, the trashes emptied from several containers, different categories. i was taken to the same vehicle, but he said, he said, well, this discourages people from collecting separately. tennyson, the best quarter shots cost a collect there's a select where off to a different neighborhood where we follow and now that trucks the now again, it's like this different types of ways, right? yes, yes. i think they are mixing or, or they'll be yes. unplugged. shun to attach media,
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does this detective work because it's hard to come by up to date, locally waste collection data. even though the operate does legally required to keep track use as romania as environmental protection agency. it takes 2 years to validate and publish the data. over the past decade, recycling rates and romania have consistently been low, moments locked while that's your knowledge for cycles are more expensive to collect and mixed waste. and they said, well, they're not mistake shopping. and so there's no incentive to collect it separately because the waste fee system doesn't encourage it to not be in place to collect this the product. so you think that is the main problem? why it's not working? yes, it's one of the problems of lima. there are also the issues of awareness of the right infrastructure. we've seen as some containers are well labeled on time, but here they're not actually what the money from the new was supposed to be spent on a sped out in
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a lot of details in the project description. 7820 collection bins. 3 ways transfer stations, excess roads, 21000 individual combusting units. 17 containers for hazardous municipal waste. 46 containers for by request a waste sorting station, a waste treatment plan. atlanta, the, we saw that at least part of this equipment was purchased and delivered. so what's going wrong i meet again was shunned or curtis for you and 3 of the environmental activists for years now they've been keeping tabs, includes his waste for me it's, it's, it looks like a lot of the things that you want to that's why implemented know on
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paper, let's say, you know, you can see there are these bins, they bought them, they put them there. of the thing is as it should be, nothing you cannot show one thing that is done to the book. it's not the deposit is done badly. the sort thing good is done badly the collecting has done bad lead. busy of the ways bins are done badly, the transport is done barely what, what, which box can you show that it's done by the book? we take another look at the drone footage of the new land for the activists. i worried that in recent weeks, the dump has been filling up much faster than a charge, and that it may just be a matter of time to choose his next big habits prices. and it's worse then when we do some surveillance with a drone, because we had some, some videos and we could look at some big optics,
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but we didn't see this close detailed. so it's really, it's a bit towards definitely thoughts. and then we saw it before. and then this is not a moment or a mistake. this is a structure, as you can see from the area that these covered with non treated non sorted garbage . that this is general practice when it was start to go down hills, then to what things will become fully enough formation. and then when we did the city put the garbage most of them, what do we have? they don't treat those sort, just dump it there. it's, it's so obvious and before that was the activists document their observations on social media, but they don't get much attention from the public or the media. here you see by this group on facebook is the local media. we are lacking proper media here in our city. they all kind of gave up or actually doing proper media. and
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there, there is no interest and they'll come, but as may be, there are people page to kind of shut up. so what we're trying to re balance, but the only people who will tell us things the activists is really right to get both sides of the story if there are. but i guess there are 2 sides, but it's really hard to get to the other side of the story. and we contacted everyone in charge of the ways then choose to try to get access to the treatment center and to confront them with what we saw suit the con, the operator that manage this waste collection and treatment. he had never onset, our costs or our email is romania as ministry of european investments. all right, so didn't reply to our questions. the supervising locate, waste management association, sent us a written statement saying that when operating deficiencies found at the waste management center correction notices are drawn up and penalties applied.
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no one politically in charge wanted to talk to me in person. but finally, i am granted an interview at twos county town, so they are responsible for implementing the new project the account. so president refused to meet us. so i get to talk to spokesman in yoga and said that yes, a little sheet. so there's also much else to remind you to solve the counties longstanding wise problem, homework. he's talked uh we closed all non compliant public landfills and we put the sale and integrated waste management center and to use the general updated pals . he thought it could, you gentle the management team think about the show a lot. so from that perspective it's clearly
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a success the wants to just. we've also assigned the waste collection to the court . it's functional, all district would load and we've assigned the operation to the waste management center almost. so it's a close cycle trip with the measurements. i'll just say what i'll just put this one . the 1st one chicken, one keys we observed that and precious the not being recycled and not collected separate includes. and this is one of the main doors of european waste management stand. that's so am i you as the 2 is county not concerned about this? probably pigs, you still there are probably some isolated problems in the cloud report if you would clearly it's not a systematic issue. and i'm telling you that as a citizen system of the going to create one thing that sudden is that a good proportion of the waste is collected entry did separately. and she did the, the got the city depot, select you. have you been at the new lancer and have you actually looked at the waste and the lens are beautiful now firstly,
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i was there at several stages of the project. you're not after it started operations, so not recently, origin. as interested as a, the i schools, county to have a functioning waste management system. of course you don't miss the county council . there's not a controlling or 40 optic northwest to do, but we have taken on through projects, various contracts, all what the law of launches us to do one practice of traction, lead y'all. nobody. i don't know yet, but it's not our responsibility to enforce it on other private and all public entities. so it's we've opted football breach. i actually am surprised that he repeated on camera that they call this a success that they say the waste management system is functioning properly. i wasn't expecting that i'm getting the feeling i really need to find out what's going on inside the treatment center up on the activist eastbound circuit has
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promised to take us close. but he's want us that it's not accessible by a public road or the afraid of me and it's fairly game over somebody really doesn't want us to see this. i think i don't think that's working. that was done deliberately. yes. so people kind of gross disorder, and it's so fresh the, because uh, there were no,
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there was no vegetation on the bottom. the, the waste treatment center. it was officially opened, and a pro 2020 free eastbound come see a regular i need to check if that has been any progress. normally, the garbage trucks come all the way down, then up on this to then they should go to that facility over there. and the there should be the belts because they are both, then the whole thing should go to the sift. and whatever remains in the safe is this is more than what the real like, uh, like uh, small objects and so on. which is which you are allowed to deposit, but again, you need to see if what these down is the same cost as the is least one. if you find bigger object, it's beds we can look inside the building. we can see that some garbage has indeed been treated, but it's just
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a fraction and treated waste is still being dumped in the lenses when your tires, in your opinion, commission is uh, shame on you for knowing and not doing anything. yeah. yeah, i'm sure they know it's time. i talked to someone at the european commission in brussels. i have an appointment with stuff on the cash market. he's the commission and spokes person for region of the policy which includes the project includes county of the limits of holding some festival. for now, the project has been implemented for almost 95 percent and we expect the program to be finalized by the end of december this year. so yes, there has been days, but we see that the, the, the rate of implementation is quite high when, how,
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how, how is that judge like one of the criteria to say it's 95 percent implemented. i'm asking because when we were there, we saw that waste is not being separated on a daily basis. that there are trucks that are supposed to collect just let's say pay for all plastics. but we actually fin them collecting all of the waste. and we also went to the landfill and we saw this untreated waste and the new land. so. so i, i think that visa indicates of said whatever i was suppose to happen isn't really watching what i think. it's also important to know that we commission, we agree with the number of states on indicators on the objectives, but these are objectives for the programs, country, weiss or region why so it's and these indicators, objectives then has to be translated by the member states, the actual indicators, objectives for the different projects. so i would say that the management, the full width of the so these projects really happens by the numbers, the f i c,
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the waste is not being separated and it's not being recycled. why is this not part of the objective of the program? why is what specified in the project? things like a bias. some ways bins, you know, it's more like technical stuff. this equipment is not the way use them by deficient using all to reach the targets already objective. that is for sure, but the use of the equipment in itself is not the objective. the objective is that we have well working systems was well working waste treatment systems well working and recycling and dispos. so systems, those are the, the object, this refilled kind of why i mean, and what do you agree that if it's not used correctly, then this project is not really a success. so if, if the equipment is i can open the stage, pronounced myself on this, and this particular product, as i explained to you, projects are managed by the member states. the commission does not manage projects
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. we do not follow each separate project. we have under equation policy, the previous peers, 1500000 projects on more than 1500000 projects funded by equation policy. and these are all managed by the member states. i'm a business, i'm fine. i was thinking that you would at least say something about our projects and not just, you know, these like sort of very general responses and feel like, you know, i can understand that they have a lot of projects to manage and maybe then are passionate about each of the projects, but you know, it seems like we'll catch everybody we talked to was like me, we're not in charge of these people. so in the end, it's like if, if this was the private money, they would count what happens to the money, you know, but it's everyone's private money. so it's, it's all, it takes money. beckett, pedagogy, each month. so coach has come up with
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a new plan. anytime i come here to the field, i see this happening that the, the garbage trucks are not coming up. the just the dump is i want to reinstall the scanner, which is the solar panels, the solar foward and can do most of the video to see how many trucks actually come up with this facility. if i hide this well and nobody finds it, then you one week i will have one week, a footage of exactly how many drops came, how many, when a so either way off. so let's see how, how i throw this things on each mine and the other activists plan to file a complaint with all of the european anti fraud office to demand an official investigation into waste management in clues. but he doesn't expect much as long as europe is happy with the the s and they are and they have been and they would be
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