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a kim, john own, and vladimir put a 1st concert, gather in person, and 2019, now united in their growing international isolation. their sense to meet again, seeking weapons for the war against as western neighbor. russia is looking towards another neighbor, north korea, for support. the bottom administration has expressed concern over increased military cooperation between the 2 barrels. but more than what russia could get from north korea, observers worry about what north korea to demand from russia and return the call for ocean berlin. and this is the day the, all this is planning, russia running show to that i'm going to ship right now. i'm having scared to those
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credit. and i think that that comes at the time when russia is increasing the lovely, isolated. and i would say as well, that what we have seen choose best, and not guessing what they need from china. russia, 3 d. what's the problem up north korea to increase most troubles to them in the state. so they will kick in excessive weight profit. also coming up exit us from the desert, one bath 1000 joint long lines to leave as the organizers of the burning man festival in nevada. finally open the only road out ahead of the basic time. would i want to do it again for another 3 or 4 days? the say, where is the last 3 for this? never. but uh, we're not in the trenches in the ukraine. we're not in in the refuge account. we
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are, we're playing a game together in the dust. walk into the show, or you can choose your neighbors, so you better live with them in peace and harmony. the russian saying sounds awfully cynical in light of wonder where food is war of aggression. honest neighbor, ukraine. there are some neighbors. increasingly isolated, russian leader does seem to be seeking peace and harmony with or at least to arms deals. us officials say north korean leader kim jong will soon travel to russia to meet with fulton at the top of the engine. now a potential deal to supply russia with munition for the war and ukraine. the white house has already warned that north korea will pay a price if at supplies russia with weapons. north korea's military mines on full display celebration in july marketing to end of the korean war, russian defense minister. so it gave show you store to side by side with the north
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korean president. the parade in the capital p on yang made a big show of north korea's spending nucular program. but what russia needs is most simple. ammunition, notably, artillery shells and anti tank missiles, as many as they can get you officials estimate that russia had spies it around $50000.00 salary shells per day since invading ukraine. international sanctions have limited most of those options to replenish its supply. and so it appears to have turned to north korea, the joan yang hole, significant quantities of am munition. so analysts are unsure about the quality of its stuck piles. but north korea can also offer role materials, particularly on all which russia can use to ramp up. it's phone production of shells. another question for you cranes. western allies is what russia might give in exchange. in the immediate term, food is
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a top priority for people in yang years of cove and lock downs and strangling sanctions. have left many north koreans. on the brink of famine, south korea suspects russia has offered to hold joint naval drills with china and north korea. a mirror to the annual exercises held between south korea and the united states. but many also see a russia may offer advanced technologies that could be used to the young young's nuclear program, a prospect that would violate over a dozen un sanctions. danielle salisbury is an associate of follow the royal united services institute in the u. k. and joins me now from oregon in the us. mr. sales for you're welcome to the day, how worry is this tightening alliance to you? i mean, it's obviously very concerning concerning for multiple perspective. so obviously 2 settings for the war and ukraine and rushes procurement of what is to fuel that
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will. and also from the perspective of those curious actions and the nonproliferation regime, it looks like that's a part what exactly is put and hoping to get from north korea. here. the i'm so as i understand the pretend is most likely shopping for, for weaponry to fuel the war. obviously the war is stretching the russian defense industry and rushes to stop miles to the limits. and also it's just probably looking to maintain significant stop off as well for other contingencies. and so it's turning to uh to are kind of increasing a selection upon us that the to rely on thoughts with technology. yeah. but this wouldn't be the 1st time north korea sold arms to be used against ukraine. what? no, no. so we haven't already seen the sales of the battlefield rocket, some battlefield miss houses. and so i'm going to create the russian private military organization. i'm gonna think we've also seen some sales or all homes of
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artillery shells, because we recently saw evidence that the ukranian military forces and catches of these on the battlefield. that russia is in a rather desperate position here. so came young only has a lot of leverage. what is he going to ask for and return? well, he usually has the most career and the regime have means. and this can be things as simple as, as a oil of food have been such a wiser. but also take the logical needs. so i'm, so i please. so there is a risk that russia may assist those career resolve. it's a arms i positively w. m. d programs as well. so you say uh, controlling and we'll be looking for what technology in return for, for his, his technology, he's, he's wanting to supply that we have to bear in mind that russia is a member of the un security council. and in moscow has back you and sanctions targeting north korea's nuclear program for years. they couldn't this system now
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stopping the regime from developing an and trading weapons of mass destruction now collapse. yeah. so it is very concerning. um, i think since this 2017, we haven't seen any new sanctions put in place to, to your own security council and we haven't actually seen any entities added to the sanctions. let's see the, so the sanction system has kind of been on like support for a while. but i think it, russia was to me from being the, the kind of alongside china was, was trying to use feet with sections to, to be in our practice where they are in this whole process. you know, that's a real stop change and, and it was kind of pregnant into the question, the, the future of human sections more broadly. the us has made information about this meeting public to dissuade north korea from engaging more closely with russia. do you think this plan is likely to succeed high? i wouldn't be surprised this amazing garza hutton. i'm there. awesome deals either
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made or seals of amazing. why don't we do here? uh, what does deals are as in the awesome, you know, i, i think it's 5 as a to watch, move on to arms and potential section. i'm preaching business. i might be kept secret on it. my feet down to the west intelligence agencies that can serve you well not doing what i say. i don't really seem as much the, the, the us, i'm less knowledge can do at this point. so if it is to, to find common ground, there is no way of stopping this, this strength and the lions from going forward to say, i mean, i think one of the, one of the challenging, posit this as well as the shared line border when she could enter a move across all kinds of goods where there's new technology or things like uh the, the few other furniture lines or whatever is traded in real time because of the shuttle on board. and as very little people can do,
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it's going to take some issue and so all that kind of thing. um, so, so yeah, i would say there's probably not much that we can do apart from uh, what you learned at this point. that is a bleak outlook. mr. sales. very, thank you so much for your time. thank you. here what says it has uncovered a trafficking ring recruiting people to find for russia and ukraine. the government of nevada believes nationals living and russia as well as back home are being signed up under false pretences. cuba, as a close ally of russia by the after the allegations became known to foreign ministry, felt compelled to stress it is not involved in the war and ukraine and added that authorities are working to dismantle the network. and the statements find a foreign ministry was read out on cuba, national television, and i believe we have that statement for you. let's see if we can bring it up
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a 10 minute video that video to that adult, the ministry of the interior detected and is working to neutralize. i'm dismantled of people. the human traffic and networks that operates from russia to incorporate cuban citizens living the and even some from cuba. things to the military forces participation the military operations in new cranes without seeing, it's mainly guessing it will put on you attempts of this nature be neutralized thing and criminal proceedings have been initiated against people involved in these activities. nothing born with what of us and stuff like that we'd always speak now to dr. lewis bice, when he was a professor of sociology at palm beach. state college in florida, in the us is also the co president of the palm beach center for democracy in policy . research and you wrote the book of latin america and the post chavez, the era, the security threat to the united states. dr. flushing. welcome to the day in cuba and russia, have historically been allies. why wouldn't have an error as grievances so publicly i think a, this is my view,
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of course i might use that. i know he's trying to do the see. i would say, because i find how to believe that there would be uh, a package network that was open the door to good. cool. what do you, what sort of yours, without the knowledge of the cuban government? so i believe that's right now what they are trying to ease to receive to basically make believe that they have not support that's supposed to be. all right, so what you're saying is that cuba is actively sending human nationals to russia or, or how can we interpret where you're saying? well, according to prisoners defense, which itself yeah, a group of human excise leaving in my, the use the cuban government, easy board. i wouldn't be surprised because that he's on his way to the cuban government actually own tier, the soldiers to fight in different braces. and after the guy he met him going out
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even in the city during the york in fort worth. but that was many, definitely the company, but it doesn't matter the separate issue. and also it was many big gates. i bought a cuban restaurant when i went into cornwall. and now the scenario returns. and the scenario with those be precisely because of both these parties. all right, so you're leaning on his history like what, what real evidence is there for that? when he's very interesting because the things here he's a you know, is very, very to be because what the, what the piece of information you get there is no easy then it's one way you won't be as if i am i suppose you all know jeez, i'm the associate sociologist, i speak to the late that few of us, i so they should be going on the guys, these cannot be held by anybody else except russia. and on the other hand,
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keeping the conflict in ok, i'm giving them, given the new competition. i can say that they exist between russia and the united states. russia go the fields or both, resorted to american enemies. i'm do you guys definitely. and i made an enemy, one of these discovery team that the scene in a better society, a situation where the united states. yes, but the united states are watching cuba as well as russia quite close to don't you think that us intelligence would've picked up on have an outstanding cube and soldiers to fight and ukraine? that's supposed to be the b 5 may or may not, you know, not, not be able to think we know that from 911 on the other. the examples that the, the, you know, the thank you a security services and don't be given anything. okay. and don't get everything
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about it on the face or, or basically the phase 2 bit, thanks everything. all right. i think the, i'm very much in the speculation here. but i want to look at the bigger picture with you though. um, how has this more transformed russia's role in latin america? well, 1st, before a deal to start with these war, i think as natal expanded in eastern europe, christ shop. so to expand the like, you know, maybe taking advantage of the fact that there were a new regina that when i'm the one who speaks to the united states, many, so a lot me got out why or the right. and so these gram continues seems barely, i would say seems barely 2000 seems particularly since 2000 and then me. so a is not the 1st time that the brush up, it shows these like, you know,
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maybe going countries, but now more than ever, even they want, you know, thing. yeah. and is it just anti american sentiment that, that unites these countries though, because that is, that is not really a stable basis for, for meaningful cooperation. is it, you know, i think it, these, uh, i'm gonna gather things these companies. i mean these redeem side of the revolutionary ad on many aspects, but one of the elements that got expedited is on these redeems east. precisely the needs of the united states. these like the it'd be such as the state the that the united states has exploded like, you know, maybe downtown to these throughout the they gave me draw the yes, i am 5. we have not seen the only among the think or she was expecting that may be cost such as we get our one be swinging on cuba, but also a, i'm own,
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a company such as but as even the impedance. okay. but the fact that the joining breaks, let me jump in there because i, i do want to get back to the war in ukraine. a number of countries in latin america have been reluctant to condemn russia's invasion of ukraine. now, anti american sentiment assigned that as an invasion of an, you know, a sovereign country. um, are they really on russia side here? in my view, they yeah, they yeah, they claim new bradley d id the guy you know like but as the 40 s, as they claim that they want to be me the, the switching piece. but the yeah, be be like if you look at the one that i've seen a bunch of these chords, it disagree at that he definitely seems like very sweet. ok, thank you. 5. he for did say lansky. i'm here for they may go for these war even though the ag edition came from russia. so in my opinion, yes,
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the site with registrar even though they don't acknowledge that they wouldn't recommend that they wouldn't acknowledge that. but thank you my opinion. they do site with rush, i guess. right, that was those fleischmann, another palm beach state college. so many thanks. i splinter the burning man festival in nevada is often described as a once in a lifetime experience. and this year's edition certainly was unlike any other before humphrey of the desert turned into a sea of mind. organizers have now reopened the only road leading out of the site, allowing stranded revellers to had home. earlier, heavy rains had converted the desert grounds into a monday bath, leaving 70000 burners, as they call themselves to make the best of terrible conditions. vx, it is,
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was long and tedious as thousands of vehicles sneak their way along this 8 kilometers stretch. desperate to get out of the northern nevada desert and onto the nearest highway. a summer storm had left them stranded heavy rains to turn the ground at the annual counter culture celebration into a sea of mud happens opened up on friday. the rain tore down installations, leading organizers to cancel events, and institute a driving bad as a safety precaution. when the rain came down, we'll just kind of went back to our tents and hung out with each other and waited until it stops. it was incredibly muddy. we had to a lot of us put bags over our shoes or take them over our feet in order to protect our fee or our shoes. but overall, it wasn't bad, nothing bad happened. it was just money. the tired revellers carrying mud covered
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bags at the nearest airport in reno, offered mixed feelings about this year's event. i had an amazing time. would i want to do it again for another 3 or 4 days to say, where is the last 3 for this? never. but we're not in the trenches in the ukraine. we're not in in the refuge account. uh we are, we're playing a game together in the desperate i wish that there was a little bit more communication in terms of events like this. the, especially for those of us who come knowing we can't get refunds. and just knowing that we spent a lot of time and money to get out here. the annual burning man celebration attracts tens of thousands of musicians, artists, and activists every year. community and self reliance are among the core principles of the annual gathering values which were very much put to the test at this year's event day protocol. is that the festival and he enjoys this now from austin, texas to share his experience today. you were one of tens of thousands stuck in the
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month. when did you realize that you were not going to be able to leave as well? it was a, it was a really great experience. i think we realized when start like the bicycle stopped moving in the mud and as people were trying to make their way back to the camp they, we got stuck and then the rain started much quicker and faster and we realized something was probably going to be changing very soon and how did people deal with being trapped in the desert? and was there ever a sense of anxiety or, you know, maybe even panic? absolutely. there people, initial thoughts were on my gosh, how are we gonna get home? is the man going to burn? are we going to have as much fun as possible? but i think once people started realizing that resistance was few tile, uh your anxiety and everything went away. and once we came to a moment of acceptance, you're able to really actually enjoy the festival much, much more that had not happened. but can you paint the picture,
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maybe for the people who do not know, burning man and how it functions where you're not scared about running out of supplies before being able to leave, being stuck in the middle of a desert as well. that was actually a very real idea because you have to bring in everything with you. luckily, most people they planned for a few days extra than what they're going to stay there for. and at the time, there was a lot of of misinformation. we weren't sure if it would be 3 or 4 days. we weren't sure if it was going to be a week. but luckily everyone banded together and just started sharing, whatever extra things i had for people that who maybe didn't have enough water or doesn't have enough food. and you know, so we're able to share. we've got the resources that we had, especially we had a lot of beer and as soon as we started passing that out, everything was started really lightning and it became like a lot better. all right. how did you eventually get out? because you managed to mean quote unquote escape on sunday. i guess this is where
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you come in and leave your shoes. yeah, so what happened was once we realized zip low and chris rock were able to hide out to the road. we decided that, you know, what we can do is to and there was a couple of camp maids, a couple of neighbors. i really need to get out. so we put a garbage bags on our feet and we just started charging away. luckily, before long we were picked up by some of the cars and our these, our already kind of on the outskirts of the apply a so they weren't really stuck in the center of the camp and the people on the outskirts we're able to just kind of push through and drive through. luckily we were able to catch a ride all the way back to reno. so we got really lucky actually. you did mess the big highlight though, right? because the festival accommodates with the burning of the man. having gotten out on sunday, were you a bit disappointed or were you happy that you managed to get out when you, when you didn't manage to well, you know, i really need to get back from my daughter's birthday,
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which was today. so happy birthday sophia. but what happened was, once we got out, we realized that you know, that this period was still on. we still have friends that we were able to communicate with inside of the burning that event. i was able to watch it on the live stream like police, and also i was listening to the be on my, our radio. so it kind of felt like you were still there supporting each other. and also we were able to just kind of talk about our experiences and help people understand what was going on is going to be okay, you'll be able to get out soon enough. so just enjoy the ride while you're there. it sounds all very positive, but there must have been something that, you know, you didn't miss when you got out. oh, i mean, it was definitely, uh the, there was a sense of relief in the same day. there's other lows and other highs. people are breaking down left and right. so there's, there's this sense of community and that's really what the beauty beauty of it is
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that there really brings together humanity in a way where if people are down, there's other people to lift them up. everything really kind of highlights the fact that love is greater than fear. and in those scenarios, despite all the things happening in the world, a humanity can still ban together and go through any kind of adversity. there was quite a bit of shot in front of the online about you guys getting stuck in the desert. how did you feel about that? uh well, uh, i actually didn't mind it. i thought, you know, as long as they start the air dropping enough, well, water and mollie, you know, we might make it up. okay. but i'm not sure shit. i'm just joking. but yeah, it was fun. it was good. i think it was um, you know, there was a lot of people that are upside, but once you realize that, hey, you're stuck here and there's nothing you can do about it. you really just need to kind of like make the best of a bad situation. and end up being an amazing situation really at the end. we don't have too much time, but maybe a yes or no really be going back next year. oh,
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only if it rains only if it rains when i go back. all right, those dave father golf. thank you so much for sharing your experience. thank you. thank you so much guys. it was our time, but make sure to stay in touch. you can follow our team on ex, formerly known as twitter. you'll find us under apps, it will be news and myself. nicole underscore flores. it is the latest headlines you're looking for. there is always our website at w, w dot com for now. no, from all of us here on the day. thank you so much for spending part of your day by the
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