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servers worry about what north korea to demand from russia and return the call for ocean berlin. and this is the day. the goal is always you being this is penny russia running shows. and i'm in the ship right now. i'm having to go to northridge and i think that it comes as the time with russia is increasing the globally isolated. and i would say as well, that what we have seen choose best, and not guessing what they need from china. russia 3 days. what's the problem up north korea to create more problems to that in the state. so they're working the met, excessive waiting process. also
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coming up to exit us from the desert, one bath 1000 joint long lines to leave. as the organizers of the burning man festival in nevada finally opened the only road out ahead of the basic time. what i want to do it again for another 3 or 4 days to say, where is the last 3 for this? never. but uh, we're not in the trenches in the ukraine. we're not in in the refuge account. we are, we're playing a game together and do the walk into the show. you can choose your neighbors, so you better live with them in peace and harmony. the russian saying sounds awfully cynical in line to plunder where food is war of aggression. honest neighbor, ukraine. there are some neighbors increasingly isolated russian leader does seem to be seeking peace and harmony with or at least arms deals. u. s. officials saying
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north korean leader kim jong will soon travel to russia to meet with fulton at the top of the agenda. a potential deal to supply russia with munition for the war and ukraine. the white house has already warned that north korea will pay a price if it supplies russia with weapons. north korea's military mines on full display celebration in july marking ended the korean war. russian defense minister, so it gave show you sort of side by side with the north korean president, the parade, and the capital p on yang made a big show of north korea's expanding new killer program. but what russia needs is most simple ammunition, notably artillery shells and anti tank missiles, as many as they can get. you officials estimate that russia has fired at around $50000.00 salary shells per day since invading ukraine. international sanctions
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have limited most of those options to replenish its supply. and so it appears to have turned to north korea, shown yang, hold significant quantities of immunization. so analysts are unsure about the quality of its stuck piles. but north korea can also offer role materials, particularly, or which rustic can use to ramp up it's own production of shells. another question for you cranes. western allies is what russia might give in exchange. in the immediate term, food is a top priority for people in yang years of cove and lock downs and strangling sanctions. have left many north koreans. on the brink of famine, of south korea suspects russia has offered to hold the joint naval drills with china and north korea. a mirror to the annual exercises held between south korea and the united states. but many also see a russia may offer advanced technologies that could be used to the young young's
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new caleb program, a prospect that would violate over a dozen un sanctions. danielle salisbury is an associated fellow at the royal united services institute in the you can joins me now from oregon in the us. mr. sales for you're welcome to the day homework thing is this tightening alliance to you? i mean, it's obviously very concerning concerning for multiple perspective. so obviously 2 settings for the war and ukraine and rushes procurement of what is to fuel level and also from the perspective of north korea, sections and, and the nonproliferation regime. but let's pick that some part. what exactly is put and hoping to get from north korea here. soon as i understand the pretend is mostly shopping for the webinar here, it's a few of the war. obviously the war is, is stretching the russian defense industry and rushes to stop miles to the limit. and also it's just probably looking to maintain significant stop all is well for
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other contingencies. and so it's turning to uh to are kind of increasing a section upon us that they can rely on folks with technology here. but this wouldn't be the 1st time north korea sold arms to be used against ukraine. what are not as nice. so we have already seen the sales of the bottles of rocket some battlefield miss. i was to the crew to the russian private military organization. i think we've also seen some sales or all homes of artillery shells, because we recently saw evidence that the ukranian military forces and catches of these on the battlefield. russia is in a rather desperate position here, so can young only has a lot of leverage. what is he going to ask for and return? well, he usually has the most career and the regime have means. and this can be things that are as simple as, as a oil of food and fertilizer,
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but also turn logical needs. i'm, so i please. so there is a risk that russia may assist those career resolve. it's a arms i possibly w m d programs as well. so you say uh, controlling, and we'll be looking for what technology in return for, for his, his technology that he's, he's wanting to supply it. we have to bear in mind that russia is a member of the un security council. and in moscow has back to infectious targeting for us korea's nuclear program for years. they couldn't this system now stopping the regime from developing and trading weapons of mass destruction now collapse. uh yeah. so it is very concerning. um, i think since this 2017, we haven't seen any new sanctions put in place to, to your own security council and we haven't actually seen any entities added to the sanctions. let's see. the says the sanction system has kind of been on large support for a while, but i think you, for us, it was to me from being honest the,
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the kind of alongside china was, was trying to use the receptionist to be in our practice. we learned this whole process, you know, that's a real stop change and, and it's always kind of bringing into question the future of human sections more broadly. the us has made information about this needing public to dissuade north korea from engaging more closely with russia. do you think this plan is likely to succeed high? i wouldn't be surprised if the mason goes ahead and that are awesome deals either made or seal that amazing. whether we do here. uh, what does deals are as in the awesome, you know, i, i think it's 5 as a do you watch me involve arms and essentially sang some preaching business. i might be kept secret on my feet down to the west intelligence agencies who can serve you well, not doing what i say. i don't really think as much to the, the us, the lesson dollars can do at this point. so if it is to find common ground,
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there is no way of stopping this, this strength and the lions from going forward. you say, i mean, i think one of the, one of the challenging parts of this as well as the shared line border when she couldn't carry, move across all kinds of goods where there's new technology or things like, uh the, the few other fertilize or whatever is traded in real time because of the shuttle on board and has very little people to do. it's going to take some issue and so on that kind of thing. um so so yeah, i would say there's probably not much that we can do apart from uh watch in line at this point. that is a bleak outlook. messer sales very thank you so much for your time. thank you. here by says it has uncovered a trafficking ring recruiting people to find for russia and ukraine. the government of nevada believes nationals living,
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and russia as well as back home are being signed up under false pretences, cuba as a close ally of russia. but after the allegations became known to foreign ministry, felt compelled to stress it is not involved in the war and ukraine. it added that authorities are working to dismantle the network. and the statements by the foreign ministry was read out on cuba, national television, and i believe we have that statement for you. let's see if we can bring it up a 10 minute video, the video to that adult, the ministry of the interior detected and is working to neutralize. i'm this month old people, the human traffic and networks that operates from russia to incorporate cuban citizens living the and even some from cuba, into the military forces participation the military operations in ukraine, but i'll soon hispanic us, it will put on you attempts of this nature be neutralized thing, criminal proceedings are being initiated against people involved in these activities looking for the of us. and if that's like the we dollars. that's big.
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now dr. lewis bice one who is a professor of sociology at palm beach state college. and florida in the us is also the co president of the palm beach center for democracy in policy research. and he wrote the book of latin america in the post chavez, the era of the security threat to the united states. dr. flushing. welcome to the day in cuba and russia, have historically been allies. why one? havana air is grievances, so publicly by the i think a, this is my view. of course i might use that. i wanna ease trying to do the c. i would say, because i find how to believe that there would be uh, a package network that was open a door to good to go work. you went soldiers without the knowledge of the cuban government. so i believe that's right now what they have trying to go east to receive, to basically make believe that they are not support. that's
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a possibility. all right, so what you're saying is that cuba is actively sending human nationals to russia or, or how can we interpret what you're saying? well, according to prisoners defense, which itself yeah, group of human excise leaving by the use the cuban government, easy board. i wouldn't be surprised because there is an entire thread the showing where to the given government act. what do you, sanchez, to fight in different places in after the guy you know, going back even in the city during the york and fort worth. but that was many decades ago, but it doesn't matter the separate issue. and also it was many big gates that go with the cuban restaurant when i went into cornwall. and now the scenario returns. and the scenario that there must be precisely because of both these parties. all right, so you're leaning on history like what, what real evidence is there for that?
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what is really interesting because the things here he's a, you know, he's very, very, to be because of what the, what the basically formation you get there is no, it'd be this one way. you won't be out of it. i am, i suppose you all know geez, associate. so you know, just i speak to relate that few of us. i so they should be going on the guys, these cannot be held by anybody else except russia. and on the other hand, even the conflict thing. okay. i'm giving them, given the new competition, i can say that exist between russia and the united states. russia go the bills, auto both resorted to many communities. and you guys definitely, and i'm ready to go to any one of these, these every team and that the easy, i bet aside, your situation the where the united states. yes. but the united states are watching cuba as well as russia quite close. the don't you think that us intelligence
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would've picked up on have an outstanding cuban soldiers to fight and ukraine. that's supposed to be the b 5 may or may not, you know, not, not be able to think we know that from 911 and added examples that the, the, you know, the a, thank you a security services and don't be given anything. okay. and don't get be able to think about it on the face or basically a big thing that takes everything. all right. i think the, i'm very much in the speculation here. but i want to look at the bigger picture with, you know, um, how has this more transformed russia's role in latin america? well, the 1st, the, for the most part with these war, i think as natal expanded in eastern europe,
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christ shop. so to expand the like, you know, maybe got taking advantage of the fact that there were new regina that way that when you speak to the united states, many so a lot me got out of why or the right. and so these been continues, seems barely, i would say seems barely 2000 seems i think always seems 2000 and then me. so it is not the 1st time that the brush up, it shows these black, you know, maybe can countries but now more than ever, even they want, you know, be, yeah. and is it just anti american sentiment that, that unites these countries though, because that is, that is not really a stable basis for, for meaningful cooperation. is it, you know, i think of these, uh, i'm gonna get rid of things these categories. i mean these redeem side of the revolution already and on many aspects. but one of the elements that got expedited
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is on these redeems east. precisely the needs of the united states, these last week, the or the social or the state, the that the, the make, this page has exploited like, you know, many times down to these throughout the they gave me draw the yes, i am 5, we have not seen these only among the think or she seemed like, you know, maybe got start just me got are when really sway not in cuba, but also a i'm on a country such as but as even the pin. okay. but the fax number for the joining breaks. let me jump in there because i, i do want to get back to the war in ukraine. a number of countries in latin america have been reluctant to condemn russia's invasion of ukraine. now, anti american sentiment assigned that as an invasion of an, you know, a sovereign country. um, are they really on russia side here?
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in my view, they yeah, they, yeah, they claim new bradley d id and the k, you know like but as the 40 is that they claim that they want to be mediate the switching fees. but the, yeah, the base that if you look at the one that i've seen about these chords, it'd be clear that he definitely seemed like very sweet. ok, have you 5, he for did say lensky. i'm he for, they may go for these war even though they have very strong came from russia. so in my opinion, yes, the site with restaurant even though they don't acknowledge that they wouldn't recommend that they wouldn't back knowledge that. but i think in my opinion, they do site with flash, i guess. right, that was those flash one of the palm beach state college. many thanks. i slokum the burning man festival in nevada is often described
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as a once in a lifetime experience. and this year's edition certainly was unlike any other before. after the deserts turned into a sea of mud, organizers have now reopened the only road leading out of the site, allowing stranded revellers to head home. earlier, heavy rains had converted the desert grounds into a monday, beth leaving 70000 burners as they call themselves to make the best of terrible conditions. the exodus was long and tedious as thousands of vehicles sneak their way along this 8 kilometer stretch. desperate to get out of the northern nevada desert and onto the nearest highway. a summer storm had left them stranded heavy rains to turn the ground at the annual counter culture celebration into a sea of mud happens opened up on friday. the rain tore down installations, leading organizers to cancel events, and institute a driving bad as
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a safety precaution. when the rain came down, we'll just kind of went back to our tense and hung out with each other and waited until it stops. it was incredibly muddy. we had to a lot of us put bags over our shoes or take them over our feet in order to protect our feet or shoes. but overall, it wasn't bad, nothing bad happened. it was just money. the tired revellers carrying mud covered bags at the nearest airport in reno, offered mixed feelings about this year's event i had under basic time. would i want to do it again for another 3 or 4 days to say, where is the last 3 for this? never. but uh, we're not in the trenches in the ukraine. we're not in in the refuge account. we are, we're playing a game together in the desperate i wish that there was a little bit more communication in terms of events like this. you, especially for those of us who come knowing we can't get refunds. and just knowing
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that we spent a lot of time and money to get out here. the annual burning man celebration attracts tens of thousands of musicians. artists, an activist, every year. community and self reliance are among the core principles of the annual gathering values which were very much put to the test at this year's event day protocol. is that the festival and he enjoys this now from austin, texas to share his experience today. you were one of tens of thousands stuck in the mud. when did you realize that you were not going to be able to leave as well? it was a, it was a really great experience. i think we realized when start like the bicycle stopped moving in the mud and as people were trying to make their way back to the camp, they would get stuck and then the rain started much quicker and faster and we realized something was probably going to be changing very soon and how did people deal with being trapped in the desert?
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and was there ever a sense of anxiety or, you know, maybe even panic? absolutely. there people, initial thoughts were on my gosh, how are we gonna get home? is the man going to burn? are we going to have as much fun as possible? but i think once people started realizing that resistance was few tile, uh your anxiety and everything went away. and once we came to a moment of acceptance, you're able to really actually enjoy the festival much, much more that had not happened. but can you paint a picture, maybe for the people that do not know, burning man and how it functions where you're not scared about running out of supplies before being able to leave, being stuck in the middle of a desert as well. that was actually a very real idea because you have to bring in everything with you. luckily, most people they plan for a few days extra than what they're going to stay there for. and at the time there was
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a lot of in misinformation we weren't sure if with the 3 or. busy a day we weren't sure if it was going to be a week. but luckily everyone banded together and just started sharing, whatever extra things i had for people that who maybe didn't have enough water or doesn't have enough food. and you know, so we're able to share, we've got the resources that we had, especially we had a lot of beer. and as soon as we started passing that out, everyone's started really lightning and it became like a lot better. all right. how did you eventually get out because you managed to mean quote unquote escape on sunday. i guess this is where you come in and leave your shoes. yeah, so what happened was, once we realized zip low and chris rock were able to hide out to the road. we decided that, you know, what we can do is to and there was a couple of camp maids, a couple of neighbors. i really need to get out, so we put a garbage bags on our feet and we just started fudging away. luckily, before long as we were picked up by some of the cars and our views, our already kind of on the outskirts of the plan. so they weren't really stuck in
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the center of the camp and the people on the outskirts we're able to just kind of push through and drive through. luckily, we were able to catch a ride all the way back to reno. so we got really lucky actually. you didn't miss the big highlight though, right? because the festival accommodates with the burning of the man. having gotten out on sunday, were you a bit disappointed or were you happy that you managed to get out when you, when you didn't manage to as well. and you know, i really need to get back from my daughter's birthday, which was today. so happy birthday sophia, but what happened was, uh, once we got out, we realize that you know, that this period was still on. we still have friends that we were able to communicate with inside of the burning that event. i was able to watch it on the live stream luckily. and also i was listening to the be on my, our radio. so it kind of felt like you were still there supporting each other. and also we were able to just kind of talk about our experiences and help people understand what was going on is going to be okay,
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you'll be able to get out soon enough. so just enjoy the ride while you're there. it sounds all very positive, but there must have been some things that you know, you didn't missed when you got out. oh, i mean, it was definitely, uh the, there was a sense of relief in the same day. there's other lows and other highs. people are breaking down left and right. so there's, there's this sense of community and that's really what the beauty beauty of it is that it really brings together humanity in a way where if people are down, there's other people to lift them up and really kind of highlights the fact that love is greater than fear, and in those scenarios, despite all the things happening in the world, a humanity can still band together and get through any kind of adverse. there was quite a bit of shot in front of the online about you guys getting stuck in the desert. how did you feel about that? uh well, uh, i actually didn't mind it. i thought,
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you know, as long as they start the air dropping enough, well, water and molly, you know, we might make it up. okay. but i'm not sure shit. i'm just joking. but yeah, it was fun, it was good. i think it was um, you know, there's a lot of people that are upset. but once you realize that, hey, you're stuck here and there's nothing you can do about it. you really just need to kind of like make the best of out of a bad situation and end up being an amazing situation really at the end. we don't have too much time, but maybe a yes or now will you be going back next year? oh, only if it rains only if it rains when i go back. all right, those day father gone. thank you so much for sharing your experience. thank you. thank you so much guess as i was there a time, but make sure to stay in touch. you can follow our team on x, formerly known as twitter. you'll find this under apps. it'll be news and myself at nicole underscore for this is the latest headlines you're looking for. there is
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