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the. 2 2 2 2 2 2 2 in meeting cultures around the world, people learn to classify small handful of animals with edible and all the rest of the classify as disgusting. a donkey series, so, but i know we're complex relationship with animals that need to be watch. now on youtube, d. w documentary, the know are she's not to be there, but a lot of the things that you wanted when somebody no the commission and they'll dare to say what their project is successful or not that we don't have the success of
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a project is evaluating. just decided assessed by members. nobody we managed to solve the counties long standing wasting. the problem is with that nursing they live somewhere else and they can't experience what it's like to live by a landfill. that's the situation. unfortunately, for me, somebody really doesn't want us to see this. i think no one in the ring. mine's anyways, management operator one take over the system as it is now to try to fix that. most of the materials to the source just dump it there. so the it took off for it to use and choose county romania over 12 years to bid this new waste management center and bring it online. it replaces the infamous path that it
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waste. i'm a giant eagle facility. i'm here to find out as millions of yours european tax pants money, but literally wasted here on is after a long delay this new dispos inside could be passed that it's happy as i've done spoiler, it's not i know straight away that something is off. when i see drone footage of the land to shut on the day of our visit, and the 1st thing i support is this tire the . the tie us just the 1st to secret that the people in charge apparently don't want us or anyone else to see the operate to ignore our requests for permission to fit
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them inside the dispos aside. slightly suspicious considering it just open the c o . 2 is not poker and romania has a reputation for poor waste management. a few 100 meters from the land for a secular meant that has long been known as europe's biggest waste schedule. more than 1500 room i people of the somewhat driven by poverty to new fee and work us ways pick us as us were evicted from the city the every day they experience life and the shadow of a poorly run garbage dump. that means that add toxic grounds and living without running water in the homes. right. and then your opinion and union
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between 20142020 of a was spent for a 118200000 new york on waste management in romania. and that's chunk off with located for closing subs spend the lenses like the warning cut that it and use a loan. you invested around 14000000 euros and waste projects up to 20. 20 the money from the sol quite structure. the funds supposed to create equal environmental standards and equal standards of living across the floor in his own. he wants to be identified by his 1st name has lived next to the ord waste dump almost all of his life
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and pretty much in control when it rains. the smell is unbearable because the dreadful stench of the cabbage dumps or not all the point of think there's a lot of much hope you're not going to. the children often come to school does eat and will show some, and then they have to leave again to clean their shoes because the schools won't let them in. and took a look on payments and classes on the way as the 2nd problem is the diseases we accumulated over time team for really been a lot of people have passed away since we moved here from to put you on personal thoughts. i each the she might have the vast majority of them got cancer because the hair was so bad. it's full of microbes and all these things seem she mentally. so we knew a lot of our kids cool me cold football fan with the tissue in austin. when you think about all of this money, do you feel that it's actually reaching you as it has done anything for you? nonsense is also really my felt absolutely nothing because for us is nothing changed or something, but that's sort of me. i'm talking about
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a standard of living and not even when you thought i didn't even with that that i, it's very difficult with little money and very low salaries image. and so i'm going to can we try to avoid the sight of this garbage dump because in the past it was a shame for us internally. one thing to tell your friends or co work is where you live or to invite someone over for me and for them to see this place was a little bit shameful. a while back on the request, it'll be a little she knows flooring works as a garbage truck driver. you seen different gums and petted, come and stay stairs figured. i'll probably roy this the on the site where i dumped the garbage for at least 6 or 7 years. cheerful thing, shots, or so shop down for some part that is also at the bottom where you can see the grass growing. there was the old number for that. i'm finding
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a dump that was set up before i was born. got a site and i'm 50 years old. like a roman called coolly options as young. so this new board pet rent what it looked like before. somewhere around here is where flooring this romania joined you in 2007. they were given the deadline until 2009 to close this done and the pressure from the you commission authorities only start to to shut down the landfill in 2015. but the new waste management center wasn't ready instead and created waste went to a new temporary dump until 5 more years for the ord langford to be rehabilitated. and another free yes. until april 2023 for the new facility to be the except for the operational.
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remembering use tile, let me tell you why. it's a drug issue credit because use tires, a one of the items that i've been from going to langford's and the european union as a hazardous waste liquids, for them of the items and any uncreated waste land funding is the most tom for form of waste, dispos that he wants to limit the amount of municipal waste buried in the ground to 10 percent by 2045 at least officially some countries in northern europe have all most made landfilling history. why a romania, scott bitch misses the target by a long shot. 51 percent of romanian waste was land fitted in 2020. the country also has the most in the good times on the continent of us. 13000. according to the latest estimates, the european commission took romania to the european court of justice twice
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fulfilling to close land for the fewest counties capital, choosing a poca as an economically booming city in romania as transylvania region. the center looks incredibly keen and we even found this state of the smart waste bins to separate waste and stored on the ground. the . let's have a quick look at the use woods for waste. the main goal is to reduce it by producing less waste by compositing, really using and recycling in romania as a recycling rate for municipal waste. the said, 14 percent compared to 49 percent and you countries on average
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so when the process of things going wrong, inclusion, to find out we went all the way back in the ways chain from the land food to the garbage been because to be recycled waste has to 1st be separated and collected separately. when a residential area too is not pull code 1st impressions, people lining up to recycle plastic boxes. this is separate from generally the waste collection. people get free best tickets in exchange for plastic boxes. the and we see different bins for different types of trash of the new guys were site goes away sometimes sometimes. yeah. so sometimes he doesn't make sense because the same car is taking the garbage. so if it is not
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actually recycling, there's one called the phone to pick everything. and then it happens right in front of our eyes. the truck says today we are collecting paper, but they're also collecting everything. it's from differently labeled bins. it makes me wonder, is this just a one off some walk and it's not following the rules, or is this done across the board? systematic key, the early the next morning we need shunned or cutter. say he's a waste expert. he used to be in charge of waste management in another town and romania and now run. so recycling business. as an activist, he often tracks the municipal waste include
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the after a few minutes, we start the 1st garbage truck chapel in the book got this. if it does show you chuck here, we can see that unfortunately, the trash is emptied from several containers. different categories i've always taken to the same vehicle body. the funny thing this discourages people from collecting separately for tenants in the best quote on shots cost a collect as soon as we're off to a different neighborhoods where we funnel and now that trucks the so what's happened now again, it's like this different types of ways right, yes, yes. i think they are mixing or,
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or they'll be yes. unplugged. shun to attach media, does this detective work because it's hard to come by up to date, locally waste collection data. even though the operator is legally required to keep track. he says remain yes, environmental protection agency, it takes 2 years to validate and publish the data. over the past decade, recycling rates and romania have consistently been low in women's locked while the amount of money for cycles are more expensive to collect, mixed waste. and they show we're not mistake shop and so there's no incentive to collect it separately because the waste fee system doesn't encourage its not being played. so collect this about so you think that is the main problem of why it's not working? yes, it's one of the problems. there are also the issues of awareness and of the right infrastructure. we've seen in some containers are well labeled on time, but here they're not actually want the
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money from the new was supposed to be spent on a sped out in a lot of details in the project description. 7820 collection bins. 3 ways, transfer stations, excess ro, it's 21000 individual combusting units. 17 containers for hazardous municipal waste, 46 containers for by request a waste starting station, a waste treatment plan, atlanta, the, we saw that at least part of this equipment was purchased and delivered. so what's going wrong and meet again was shunned or curtis for you and 3 of the environmental activists for years now they've been keeping tabs on clues as waste for me it's, it's, it looks like a lot of the things that you wanted. why implemented?
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know on paper and then saying, you know, you can see there are these bins, they bought them, they put them there or the good thing is as it should be, nothing you cannot show one thing that is done to the book. it's not the deposit is done badly, those sort thing good is done bad the, the collecting he's done bad lead. busy of the ways beings are done badly, the transport is done barely what, what, which box can you show that is done by the book? we take another look at the drone footage of the new land for the activists. i worried that in recent weeks, the dump has been filling up much faster than a charge, and that it may just be a matter of time to choose his next big habits prices. and it's worse then when we do some surveillance with a drone, because we had some,
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some videos and we could look at some big optics, but we didn't see this close detailed. so it's really, it's a bit towards definitely thoughts. and then we saw it before. and then this is not a moment or a mistake. this is a structure, as you can see from the area that these covered with non treated non sorted garbage . that this is general practice. when it will start to go down hill, then the what things will become fully enough formation. and then when we put the garbage, most of them, what do we have? they don't treat those sort, just dump it there it's, it's so obvious. and before that was the activists document their observations on social media, but they don't get much attention from the public or the media. here you see by this group on facebook is the local media. we are lacking proper media here in our
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city. they all kind of gave up or actually doing proper media. and there, there is no interest, and no competence may be there are people page to kind of shut up. so what does it show? we're trying to be balanced, but the only people who will tell us things the active is, is really right to get both sides of the story. if there are of what i guess they're on 2 sides. but it's really hard to get to the other side of the story and we contacted everyone in charge of the waste and choose to try to get access to the treatment center and to confront them with what we saw. so con the operator that manage this waste collection and treatment, tea and never onset, our cards or our email romania as ministry of european investments. all right, so didn't reply to our questions. the supervising local waste management association sent us a written statement saying that when operating deficiencies found at the waste
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management center correction notices are drawn up and penalties applied. no one politically in charge wanted to talk to me in person. but finally, i am granted an interview at twos county town, so they are responsible for implementing the new project. the counselor president refused to meet us. so i get to talk to spokesman. i mean, you go, then you can sit there. yes, a little sheet. so there's a little much else to remind you to solve the counties longstanding, waste problem, homework. he talked uh we closed all non compliant public landfills and we put the sale on the integrated waste management center and to use the general updated pals
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. you thought it could you gentle the management team think about the show a lot. so from that perspective, it's clearly a success. the one suggest we've also assigned the waste collection to the court. it's functional, all district would load and we've assigned the operation to the waste management center almost. so it's a close cycle trends with the measurements. i'll just see what i'll just put this one, the 1st one shake one keys we observed that and precious the not being recycled and not collected separate includes. and this is one of the main doors of european waste management stand. that's so am i you as the 2 is county not concerned about this provider exist. so there are probably some isolated problems in the cloud report if you would clearly it's not a systematic issue. and i'm telling you that as a citizen for some of the got 11 thing that sudden is that a good proportion of the waste is collected entry did separately. and she did the, the got the city depot, select you, have you been at the new atlanta and have you actually looked at the waste and the
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lenses. beautiful. now firstly, i was there at several stages of the project. you're not after it started operations. so not recently, origin as interested as the schools county to have a functioning waste management system. of course you the junk mail is the county council. there's not a controlling or 40 optic northwest to do, but we have taken on through projects, various contracts, all what the law of launches us to do one practice of traction. lead y'all. nobody go in the new year, but it's not our responsibility to enforce it on other private all public entities . so it's, we've opted football breach. i actually i'm surprised that he repeated on camera that they call this a success that they say the waste management system is functioning properly. i wasn't expecting that i'm getting the feeling i really need to find out what's going on inside the treatment center up on the activist eastbound sort that has
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promised to take us close. but he's want us that it's not accessible by a public road with the freight of me and it's fairly game over somebody really doesn't want us to see this. i think i don't think that's working. that was done deliberately. yes. so people kind of dress disorder and it's
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a fresh thing because uh there were no, there was no vegetation on the bottom, the, the waste treatment center. it was officially opened in a pro 2020 free eastbound. come see a regular i need to check if that has been any progress. normally, the garbage trucks come all the way down, then up on this to then they should go to that facility over there. and the there should be the belts, conveyor belts then the whole thing should go to the sift and whatever remains in the safe. is this the small and not the real like uh, like uh, small objects and so on, which is which you are allowed to deposit. but again, you need to see if what these down is the same cost as the is least one. if you find bigger object, it's beds we can look inside the building. we can
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see that some garbage has indeed been treated, but it's just a fraction. and treated waste is still being dumped in the lenses when you're tired and european commission is uh, shame on you for knowing and not doing anything. yeah. yeah. i'm sure they know it's time. i talked to someone at the european commission in brussels. i have an appointment with stuff on the cash market. he's the commission spokes person for region of the policy which includes the project includes county about 4 minutes opponents infested. for now, the project has been implemented for almost 95 percent and we expect the program to be finalized by the end of december this year. so yes, there has been days, but we see that the, the, the rate of implementation is quite high when, how,
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how, how is that judge like one of the criteria to say it's 95 percent implemented. i'm asking because when we were there, we saw that the waste is not being separated on a daily basis. that there are trucks that are suppose to collect just let's say paper or plastics. but we actually finish them collecting all of the waste. and we also went to the landfill and we saw this untreated waste and the new land for so i, i think the visa indicates of said whatever supposed to happen isn't really watching what i think it's also important to know that we commission, we agree with the number of states on indicators on the objectives, but these are objectives for the programs, country. why so arranging, why? so it's, and these indicators, objectives then has to be translated by the member state, the actual indicators, objectives for the different projects. so i would say that the management,
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the follow up of the so these projects really happens by the members. if i see the waste is not being separated and it's not being recycled. why is this not part of the objective of the program? why is what specified in the project? things like a bias, some ways things uh you know, it more like technical stuff. this equipment is not the way use them by deficient you do not reach the targets or the objectives that is for sure. but the use of the equipment in itself is not the objective. the objective is that we have well working systems was well working waste treatment systems well working from recycling and disposal systems. those are the, the, like, this resource. i know why i mean it, wouldn't you agree that if it's not used correctly, then this project is not really a success. so if, if the equipment is i can open the stage, pronounce myself on this. this particular product, as i explained to project,
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are managed by the member states. the commission does not manage projects. we do not follow each separate project. we have under equation policy, the previous peers, 1500000 projects on more than 1500000 projects funded by equation policy. and these are old managed by the number of states i'm a business, i'm fine. i was thinking that you would at least say something about our projects and not just, you know, these like sort of very general responses and feel like, you know, i can understand that they have a lot of projects to manage and maybe then are passionate about each of the projects, but you know, it feels like we'll catch everybody we talked to was like, we're not in charge of these people. so in the end, it's like if, if this was the private money, they would count what happens to the money,
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you know, but it's everyone's private money. so it's, it's all, it takes money. beckett, pedagogy, each month. so coach has come up with a new plan. any time i come here at the field, i see this happening that the, the garbage trucks are not coming up the just the dump is i want to reinstall the scanner, which is the solar panels the solar powered and can do most of the deal to see how many trucks actually come up to the supposed to be? if i hide this well and nobody finds it, then you want to because we have one week of footage of exactly home and use drops came home and you when the so another way of so let's see how, how i throw this thing on each mine and the other activists plan to file a complaint with all of the european anti fraud office, to demand an official investigation into waste management and clues. but he doesn't
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expect much as long as europe is happy with the d. s. and they are and they have been and they would be, would remain nearly and have no problem in producing more nice looking media. the i haven't found out who is to blame for this mess, but maybe that's exactly where the problem lies. in the european project business, every one is responsible for part of something, but no one assumes for the responsibility. and what seems to get lost along the way is the big picture. the or
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