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business be on the here's a closer look at the project. our mission. to analyze the flight for market dominance. east this is west with dw business beyond the, the booster ukraine. it strips to punch through the 1st slowly the rushes defenses in the southern region. them south korea with, well next steps be even, ha, that's the little caustic. my guess this week is your re sac advise that to ukraine's ministry of defense. and he's clear what he's country will differ based on what he won't getting to concessions to. and a dresser is etc, it's it's, it's a non stop a despite the good news on the battlefield. as a political casualty, and you cry, defense minister of extra resnick, of spirit heavy countries pushed the west from weapons and ammunition. when it came
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to rome, of a senior public there she was in ukraine and i'll open the critical with the western populace. how serious is the risk and human rights? while i mation was on the field of battle, you admonished those say, it's not just the russians shooting about prisoners, such as the price of a serious case, the onset already sac. welcome to come pick down without having to make his reports indicate your counter offensive. and this off of the country is making progress. a number of towns have been liberated, the 1st line of russian defense is being breached. and that, that felicia region, the white house, called that notable progress is it, as it is indeed we have been conducting shaping and probably all prices for quite some time now. and considering the density of mine mean considering the strength of the concrete for the vacation. so yeah, me consider the like the how the train still experiences this can
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and should be seen has considerable progress and we hope to develop it and continue to live, right. it's all out of the cities, not just in the south, but not a positive front line. as well with structures as you remember for over 900 kilometers. it's been a while since you've had some important successes on the battlefield. so why did the president choose this moment to sack your defense minister elect, say resume costs. when things are actually getting better, but how be we in this more and this defensive borges are very brutal and aggressive that i me as a c and the captain of our team is our president. mr. celeste, the so as a captain, he's best positions to see the full picture to know that at this site, this move, this change will resort. oh, he believes his vision is that they will improve our capabilities and make it make
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the stronger. so as he said, i mean the president, he said he's tell me like a dress in his vision the time this tom or trying new approaches to the way the new sort of fast interaction go price with both the ministry at the civil society. so we talked to our captain, we are driven by the same goal to defeat the enemy, and we are moving forward. or as you say, the president talked about new approaches like like what for instance. like for example, there were a lot of transparency procurement procedures that be there for which i started by. it was started by a mister. that's the rest of the job. and it needs to be accelerated, like, uh, the uh, of course, the private little jackets of the new medicine of defense misunderstanding that they will continue to be ensuring that your privacy is sufficient weapons and the
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price is capable of driving the enemy out. but of course, there are, you know, a certain processes within the visual defense which have created some public threaten us in the recent couple of months. and they have to be addressed. and we will be, this is what the role of the new minnesota banks will be. i understand that, but one thing strongly about resume costs foss, departure is that he's the man who is negotiated the acquisition, the boss, the amount so far and weaponry. and that munition he's build up a huge list of personal contacts with senior western counterparts and some considerable amount of goodwill. don't you now risk squandering that goodwill. i'm the personal relationships. but mister leslie call as built up to the advantage of the whole country, or well indeed for a more than last 550 days missed the rest of the gulf was driven by the goal of building these relationships. and he actually made the possible possible in
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so many different occasions. it all began with the united states of america, telling him back in october 2021. that it was not possible for your trade to receive human stages in jabez. and look right now we are expecting to see more of 5 digits at 16. so mystery, i think of contribution to making our partners believing, obviously, making a possible meetings that we can trusted and that we shouldn't be given these weapon systems model systems. he's got a vision, what's been valuable, or mr. the style matter is also a very experienced politician. he's very well connected on the international scene, and i am sure that he will be able to pick up the slack and be the slack back for the next stages of this morning. and i'll be the minutes or best you mentioned a moment ago. some of the next stages in the more that you'll be facing and the
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front line, but stretches to around a 1000 kilometers. nobody. that's your will to get that. but do you have the military hardware to fight with across these huge distances? and then as you know, this is a battle of david against glass are in this war. we have to uh find a gauge mcnamee which as us in every possible respect, right into the, to the is the, the, the, the amount of man power that they have. so this is why we're finding a smart little, this is why we have very carefully we brought the progress slow out, but we are saving the lives of soldiers. we are very careful with the equipment that we have the receipts from our west and boss. so, you know, considering that we will continue to fight a small, i think, you know, and providing that be supported by some time this will continue. i think we are on track and you know, we will definitely when i want to talk about that support
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a little later on. but you, you don't just a moment to go about saving the lives of your soldiers by, by all accounts you don't publish, casualty. if it goes, why should you but by all accounts, who have taken terrible losses in the battle so far? how shocking has not been for you. uh uh, this is a rule and uh of course uh, this is a which is the largest uh by scale from uh, the 2nd floor. uh and um, i have a losses, you know, across the lots of every soldier is a tragedy. but we have said it many times the because we are finding a small and because we have high, we got for the life of soldiers, we are not using them as council that we're not throwing down. these would be me drive the price. this is why our loss is considerably lower than those to be and just so that you understand from august 28th, to september, the 3 according to off because we have
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a sword. wonderful 1000 russian souls. not that is very, very huge found. uh, we have to take losses, but like we said, it's always sometimes is racial $5.00 to $1.00, sometimes $9.00 to $1.00. so we are very careful when we uh, you know, very uh, considered when it comes to sending out military operations. american officials, are you starting to shift to experience forces from the east to the south, but these units have also taken heavy casualties. have they won report said something to tunes a mostly stop by people who've already been wounded, but have come back to fight on the front lines. the good is that right? we are making sure that our uh um, full service, whether we and well staff, we have sufficient reserves. i mean it could be tremendous. i'm traveling along the front line and having a real feel of what the situation is on the battlefield. president himself,
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personally just yesterday when both of them, if we get into the 3, just so we are in control and you know, some of these reports are taken out of context and the situation of course it's difficult. it's, you know, some of the areas of the front line, like for example the, the direction they are very piece of biking by moving for example, as well, right? but at the same time, like i said, some of these tools are thinking out of context, or they don't. uh, well try to picture the way it is. you mentions of a mine field since you've encountered on the battlefield. your foreign minister called that number, the number of russian mines unprecedented when us general spoke of 5 or 6 mines per square meter. did that take you by surprise? that's extraordinary. density, isn't it? it is sort of a density um, uh, more of a because of this density and because of the way in which rushes they,
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those lines pass along those lines. now it is also not even possible to use the, the mining equipment. so a lot of that you don't have enough of any way to you don't have enough. you have about 25 percent of the equipment that you need according to some reports as well. yes. 0. we're always asking for more because uh, you know, it's a long and very expensive uh, structure of the boxes. but i was just trying to say that even though you know, we do have the, the monitors, we've been very off and it still has to be done manually. and like the latest report we have from the front lines is that, for example, russians uh, now essentially these my views on the fly at to make it even more difficult for us to carry out the money operation. so it's, it's how i'm going be grounds, but you know, how do i that have to come up in the exasperation region? this is flat ground bow isn't that which favors the defenders. i'm also winter is
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on the horizon, the not to will favor the russians dug into the trenches and fortifications. you have a little of a struggle ahead of you don't you? this is just the beginning, isn't and we know about this and we are determined and we are prepared for it. now what do you have to understand, of course, is that we are paying a lot of attention to disrupting the logistics last. all right. and we sort of daniel, actually able to prepare for the weight of the season and what we see that, you know, we are succeeding in destroying the condition of the fall. we have destroyed the bridges that they have been using for logistical supplies in the south. last month you landed a rating policy on cry. me a, a brief report from your ministry, settle the objectives of this special operation, were chief without casualties and you exchange fire with russian forces. what, what are the objectives here as well? the objectives of to keep the enemy off balance, of course, always and to continue all the aggression can plan,
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try me on the spot of things and actually recognize to us or the frame. and our vision of a piece plan envisages, of course, from the, is back to where the loss of the training. so we are carrying out different operations. you're showing the enemy that you know, we are capable of reaching them gravity on the temper out of the box sizes and it will continue until we, when mr. side, whatever the hardships your people have been in during the government appears to enjoy pretty strong solid supports at home for its policies. one of your presidents advisors put it this week at about 95 percent, but when it comes to people's attitudes in europe, in america, the picture is less encouraging. are you worried about that? well, of course, almost every trade in now has been passed in a bad. why, why this war? this is why, if you ask the premium people, the vast majority is very,
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to turn to continue to fight to live. because we all understand that this is a bass and bible, we understand that we have no other choice for getting back to getting that idea to the public in america and europe, for instance. that's why we visit. we have tried to explain very simple terms. your praise between this war is not just in the interest of your trade in the national interest of all the accounts in west to you in the united states of america, bbc on a daily back up yesterday, i got a little drawl sale and debated on the treasury of romania, we have photos, evidence of, of his ride and this is already natal territory. so and you have heard again that the crown has refused to continue the great deals or the law. this will continues. we are all faxed to our national interest. you praise rest of
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your p companies, be honest, i everybody's affecting. so this is why it is, i think, not right to the bank for some of the allies that you know, you can lose interest. it's, it's a one that affects everyone. this is why you say that, but it's a reality that you have to factor in, don't you? i mean, do not fear that a trump victory could bring you a more fighting capabilities to a grinding hold of these elected president. next you as well. so we have to, and we do understand that deluxe is of a very complex process and they involve a lot of different directory. but um, we speak to both republicans and democrats on a daily basis. and, you know, election method aside, we pretty much confident that the bipartisan support of your friend will continue because i will repeat the defeats
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a rush. so i'm breaking boxes of justice is in the interest of the, the national me, the images of the united states of america as well. so let's wait and see what the elections will bring, of course, uh, american country and uh, maybe the best kind of weird, but the bipartisan support we hope to continue. that's a strong impression risk. the fact that the tensions have been increasing between your credit and some of his allies last month. presidential advisor say hey, mission code was quite easy to say. it's all setting and the motivating, the west and military equipment has not yet arrived. and the problem is quantities, how may i ask that to me, tell color preferences, hit back at west and come and take those people who said your concert offensive being too slow. he said, i would recommend all critics to shut up, come to ukraine, and try to liberate one square centimeter by themselves. you think these outbursts do any good for you or anybody else? part from russia? of course it, well of course i,
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we are facing a very difficult task. on the one hand, we have to be diplomatic and calm patient on the other hand, you know every day and get the news of our close friends be killed in the front lines. we get the news of the pregnancy is being destroyed. so it is probably possible to understand why sometimes, you know, you just moved, you know, right. and you just have this outburst of emotions. now, i would like to stress that we are extremely grateful to uh, western partners who continue to provide the credit with the vital moves. very simple and these statements uh, they should not be seen as ukrainian be grateful impatient. i don't, we are very grateful to all of the support, but sometimes, you know, when it feels like a baltimore can be done and i don't know what likes can be said. it shouldn't be
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streamlined. now of course, uh we, we, we, we say that when it comes to the face of the counter fax, if you know we have signed it many times, that none of our lives live even stop to these offensive operations. for example, considering the lack of, at how, because in the past, you know, no major country or maple has on the lines of never have it contained where they go into a major operations of this magnitude without ask you 3 honesty. now we're doing this because we have no choice, we're waiting for the 16th, but at the same time we have to continue buying. so we consider all the factors. busy this kind of offensive or offensive is a, is very dynamic and it is cheap koberson we are moving forward. we're not standing in the same place. this is not here. one of the underlying problems that leads to tension between your crime is allies. the site fits that,
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you don't necessarily share the same strategic goals in this war. you know what you want. you want to number 8, your country for russian invaders. you insist you a land will not be traded for peace, full stop. do you even know what kinds of outcome the westwood won't or perhaps more accurately what kind of outcome it would settle for to even know that well, it seems to, i'm watching that the western countries, not just the west just for that matter. all civilized nations are interested in restoring the rules based international. all this is what it's primarily all about about a shift balance. so when we speak to applies to the leadership of the western countries, we see a very good understanding of the fact that this is not just the button print. this is not oh remote, which is fine thing you guys are so full song of fuel editors. this is something
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that can spill over the rest of the bodies. let me transfer you to west and you know, this is why, you know, if you are comfortable a whole lot of the baltic states, they are all very well aware of the real risks. and they are very, very supportive of your trade and they, you know, support the price they so matter should be, then you made 3 support to try. so uh, i think we are buying it by the same validation, by the same goal. we want to live in a world in which was the page. it's like a super power is not in a position to blackmail on a daily basis, the international community. and really why should not be allowed a rather nice house to live. i suppose the question is, how do you get from the back of the field so that they go shaping table you have present bite and saying this more will and that the negotiating table?
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how do you get from the battlefield to that table? what's your, what do you have to do to plan for that you have to outside victory? is that the only way you're going to sit down and talk i we will continue to live right now and we will continue to drive the enemy. now we will continue to destroy the equipment i live for, to the point at which they will understand that there is no funds for them can further find, like this was the case. for example, i need to talk to you and get some of them, deliver it to them. so to be a go to the table, we need to understand that you print it has to be in a position to restore the total source, the the why it wasn't 19, not too long. now, great to complete sovereignty. that's, that's your precondition for sitting down at the table. absolutely. then, mr. west, also to share about if you, if the west of some share that view in countries have voice different opinions
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about isn't it time for talks to begin and should we have a ceasefire and issues like that you've, you've got to go by the way, you can continue to buffy the what to speculate. but for now at least on the official level, we have not seen any disagreement with the premium edition of a piece of it. mr. zaleski vision of a piece by piece last supposed to be complete the impression of the credit and territories. so we will continue on that top because, you know, we have tried appeasing the dresser in the past due in 2013 rush i said legally and that's crime via the response from the national community, the response from your brain. and this is where it, let us write, this is where we are now and think 23 thousands of people that policy is destroyed . so we know that this is like that, right? giving the concessions to, and a dresser is a data. it's, it's, it's an all stop. uh, okay,
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the thing disagreements between you and your wife is of a membership of both nato and the you both organizations and assist. you will get that membership. but neither will tell you, when in nato is formulation, it will be with allies agreed on conditions on that. even though what that means, as well after the field is a needle size, a couple of months back. i think every participant on that native side, i gave a press conference during which it was very few stages that your brain will become a member of may so often print with the will. this is one of the western countries now supporting frank with the use of if you can go from the battlefield resolving this issue of a trend becomes a member of rachel, because this is the only laudable security guarantee that we can get in the meantime, the by that's a little security guarantees we both country sure, both a native solid and a g. 7 guarantees. so uh, i've got some work in progress,
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isn't it? that's a work in progress. your president was initially very dissatisfied with what came out of veiled. you'll see called the nato alpha upside. he will back back later, but the president still, i agree, is me still angry? didn't get what he can for. i think the president is very to see it when he says the maple side. and here's what's the historic, some of the things you brain i've never received in the past. 12 years of that kind of the outside. you said that after he pulled it up. so his 1st reaction was this is upside as well. yes. but i just pulled it up so that was around the uh, by let somebody go chasing the were called uh, the natal sonic. so uh, when he actually uh, received information about what the nature of course of that time offering the pride in the shortest. we get a, uh, the case here because of, uh it was what the boat was then and it wasn't progress. now. you talked earlier about the issue of human rights and the time we have left. i'd like to sort of
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mention the fact that while the tension has focused on agreed, just violations carried out, unfortunately, carried out by russian troops in march, the un human rights monitoring mission also accused ukraine of war crimes. this was a report which said both sides in the contract and carried out extrajudicial executions of military personnel. you'll government promise to investigate these accusations. how's it done? so are there. so what are the results we are investigating all possible while i, she's a geneva conventions of human rights in national treaties. uh and you know, there is whole departments within the ministry of justice who are dealing with within the office of the general prosecute. i think when they will be investigated to complete the the result will be informed. but i would like to set that some of the reports from the international organizations that have been made probably have
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been very, very used when it comes to the evidential base when it comes to the way the methodology that they use. they were very lopsided and i don't, they, uh they, they, they will understand trustworthy. when you say your investigation, but almost 6 months have passed. isn't that time that these incredibly serious accusations? what out with the, the results were made public as well. this is all, i must confess, my specific area of expertise and responsibilities. but i'm sure that, you know, we bought in our international commitments and workers be the we are collecting evidence and investigating the crimes committed by the aggressors. by the time i say russia and, you know we, we have both of those standards. if there are violations of the message or do right most of by our side, we will investigate them and reported by our journey slash has been good time here on conference. so thank you very much and the a thank you to thank you very much. the
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