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the icons of the empire in ceci minutes on the w version now understand can have a site like the right to present. do you have any news on the instagram? follow the booster. you crate it strips and punished for the 1st blow it rushes defenses in the southern region, them south korea, but well, next steps be even ha, that's the little caustic. my guess this week is your e sack advise that to ukraine's ministry of defense and he's clear what he's country will differ based on what he won't getting the concessions to and a dresser is etc. it's, it's, it's a non stop a, despite the good news on the battlefield. as a political casualty, and ukraine,
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defense minister of extra resnick, of spirit heavy countries pushed the west and weapons and ammunition. why did he do realm of the senior politicians and you craven out, openly critical with the western populace? how serious is the risk and human rights violations on the field of battle? you admonished to say, it's not just the russians shooting about prisoners, such as the price of a serious case, the onset already sac. welcome to come pick down without having to make his reports indicate your counter offensive. and this off of the country is making progress. a number of times have been liberated, the 1st line of russian defense is being breached. and that is that felicia region, the white house, called that notable progress, is it, as it is indeed we have been conducting shaping and probing operations for quite some time now. and considering the density of mind mean considering the strength of
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the concrete for the vacation. so beyond me, consider the lack of how the train still experiences this can. i should be seen as considerable progress and we hope to develop it and continue to live, right? it's all out of the cities, not just in the south, but not a positive front line as well with structures as you remember for over 900 kilometers. it's been a while since you've had some important successes on the battlefield. so why did the president choose this moment to slack your defense minister elect, say resume costs when things are actually getting better. but how be we in this one, this defensive borges, a very brutal and aggressive atom a as a c. and the captain of our team is our president, mr. celeste, the so as a captain, he's best positions to see the full picture to know that at this stage,
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this move, this change will resort. oh, he believes his vision is that they will improve our capabilities and make it make the stronger. so as he said, i mean the present, as he said, and he's telling me i have to dress in his vision the time this job for trying new approaches to the way the new sort of fast interaction go price with both the ministry at the civil society so we talked to our captain, we are driven by the same goal to defeat the enemy, and we are moving forward. or as you say, the president talked about new approaches like like what for instance. like for example, there were a lot of, uh, transparency, procurement procedures that be their pool, which has started by it was started by a mr. likes the rest of the job and it needs to be accelerated, like, uh, the uh of course, the private little jackets of the new medicine of defense and instead of the stuff
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that they will continue to be ensuring the pregnancy sufficient breakfast and be pregnant is capable of driving the enemy out, but of course there are, you know, uh, some processes within the visual defense which have created some public threaten us in the recent couple of months. and they have to be addressed. and we will be, this is what the role of the new minnesota banks will be. i understand that. but once extraordinary, about resident costs foss, departure is that he's the man who is negotiated the acquisition, the vast amount so far, and weapon rate. and that munition he's build up a huge list of personal contacts with senior western counterparts and some considerable amount of goodwill. don't you now risk squandering that goodwill. i'm the personal relationships, but mister leslie call as built up to the advantage of the whole country. well indeed for a more than last 550 days missed the rest of the gulf was driven by the
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goal of building these relationships. and he actually made the possible possible. in so many different occasions, it all began with the united states of america, telling him back in october 2021. that it was not possible for your trade to receive human stages in java. as of right now, we are expecting to see more of 5 digits at 16. so mystery. i think of contribution to making our apartments believed in, obviously making a possibility that we can trusted and that we shouldn't be given these weapon systems more of the systems. he's got the vision working valuables for mr. solomon out. it's also a very experienced politician. he's very well connected on the international scene, and i am sure that he will be able to pick up the slack and be the slack bad for the next stages of this morning. and i'll be the ministers in the past. you
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mentioned a moment ago, some of the next stages in the war that you'll be facing the front line, but stretches to around a 1000 kilometers. nobody that's your will to get that. but do you have the military hardware to fight with across these huge distances? and then as you know, this is a battle of david. it is, glass are in this war, we have to, uh, find it, isn't that any which as us, in every possible respect, right into the, to the, is the, the, the amount of man power that they have. so this is why we're finding a smart little, this is why we have very carefully we draw the progress slow out, but we are saving the lives of soldiers. we are very careful with the equipment that we have. the receipts from my west and boss. so, you know, because we will continue to fight a small i think, you know,
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and providing that the support of the restroom thomas will continue. i think we are on track and you know, we will definitely when i want to talk about that support a little later on. but you, you don't just remember to go about saving the lives of your soldiers by, by all accounts. you don't publish casualty. if it goes, why should you, but by all accounts, you have taken terrible losses in the battle so far. how shocking has not been for you. uh uh, this is a mall and uh of course uh, this is a what, which is the largest uh by scale from uh, the 2nd floor. uh and um, i have a losses. you know, for us, the loss of every soldier is a tragedy. but we have said it many times the because we are finding a small and because we have high, we got a license, possibly we are not using douglas county for the we're not fit only that needs to be me, drive the price. this is why our loss is considerably lower than both of the and
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just so that you understand from august 28th, to september 3 according to off because we have to sort, wonderful 1000 russian souls. not that is very, very huge found. uh, we have to take losses, but like we said, it's always sometimes is racial $5.00 to $1.00, sometimes $9.00 to $1.00. so we are very careful when we uh, you know, very uh, considered when it comes to sending out military operations. american officials, are you starting to shift the whole experience forces from the east to the south, but these units have also taken heavy casualties. have they run reports that some to tunes a mostly stop by people who've already been wounded but have come back to fight on the front lines. the good is that right? we are making sure that our uh um, full service, whether we and well staff, we have sufficient reserves. i mean it could be tremendous. i'm traveling along the
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front line and having a real feel of what the situation is on the battlefield. president himself, personally just yesterday when both of them, if we get into the 3, just so we are in control and you know, some of these reports are taken out of context and the situation of course it's difficult. it's, you know, some of the edits of the front line, like for example, the guy from the direction they are very piece of biking by moving for example, as well, right? but at the same time, like i said, some of these are the tools that came out of context, how they don't, uh, well try to picture the way it is. you mentions of a mine field since you've encountered on the battlefield. your foreign minister called that number, the number of russian mines unprecedented. while i'm us general spoke of 5 or 6 mines per square meter. did that take you by surprise? that's extraordinary. density isn't that it, it's sort of a density um, uh,
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more of a because of this density. and because of the way in which brushes they, those lines pass along those lines. now it is also not even possible to use the d mining equipment. so a lot of that you don't have enough of any way to you don't have enough. you have about 25 percent of the equipment that you need according to some reports. well, yes, 0. we're always asking for more because uh, you know, it's a long and very expensive uh, stretch of boxes. but i was just trying to say that even though you know, we do have the, the monitors, we've been very often, it still has to be done manually. and like the latest report we have from the front lines is that, for example, russians uh, now secondly, these microphones via to make it even more difficult for us to carry out the my operations. so it's, it's hot, i'm going be grounds. but, you know, have time to have to cover in the exasperation region. this is flat ground bow
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isn't that which favors the defenders. um, also winter is on the horizon and that too will favor the russians dug into the trenches and fortifications. you have a little of a struggle ahead of you don't you? this is just the beginning and we know about this and we are determined and we are prepared for it. now. what do you have to understand, of course, is that we are paying a lot of attention to disrupting the logistics last. all right. and we sort of daniel, actually able to prepare for the weight of the season and what we see that, you know, we are succeeding in destroying the condition of the fall. we have destroyed the bridges that they have been using for logistical supplies in the south. last month you landed a rating policy on cry, me a brief report from your ministry, settle the objectives of this special operations, were chief without casualties and you exchange fire with russian forces. what, what are the objectives here as well?
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the objectives of to keep the enemy off balance, of course, always and to continue all the aggression can plan. try me on the spot of beans and actually recognize tests are the frame. and our vision of a piece plan envisages, of course, from the is back to the loss of the training. so we are carrying out different operations showing the enemy that you know, we are capable of reaching them gravity on the temper out of the box sizes. and it will continue until we, when mr. side, whatever the hardships your people have been in during the government appears to enjoy pretty strong solid supports at home for its policies. one of your presidents advisors put it this week at about 95 percent, but when it comes to peoples attitudes in europe, in america, the picture is less encouraging. are you worried about that? well, of course, almost every pray man now has been boss in
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a bad why 5 is what this is. why. if you ask the pregnant people, the vast majority is very, to turn to continue the 5 to live because we all understand that this is a bass and bible. we understand that we have no other choice for getting that, getting that idea to the public in america and europe, for instance. that's why we use mit we. i try to explain very simple terms. your praise between this war is not just in the interest of your trade in the national interest of all the accountants in west to you and the united states of america, bbc on a daily back up yesterday, i got a little draw sale and debated on the treasury of romania, we have photos, evidence of this, right? and this is one of the nature territory. so you have heard again that the leader of traveling has refused to continue the grain deals or the law as well. this will
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continues, we are all expected our national interest. you praise rest of your p countries, be honest, i everybody's affecting. so this is why it is, i think, not right to the bank for some of the allies that you know, you can lose interest. it's, it's a one that affects everyone. this is why did you say that? but it's a reality that you have to factor in, don't you? i mean, do not fear that a trump victory could bring you a more fighting capabilities to a grinding hold of these elected president. next you, as well, do we have to and we do understand that deluxe is of a very complex process and they involve a lot of different rhetoric. but um, we speak to both republicans and democrats on a daily basis. and, you know, election method aside,
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we pretty much confident that the bipartisan support of your friend will continue because i will repeat the defeats a rush. so i'm breaking boxes of justice is in the interest of the, the national human interest of the united states of america as well. so let's wait and see what the elections will bring, of course, uh, american country and uh, maybe the best kind of weird. but the bipartisan support, we hope will continue. that's a strong impression, risk. the fact that the tensions have been increasing between your credit and some of his allies last month. presidential advisor say, hey, mission code was credited the se, itself setting and the motivating, the less than military equipment has not yet arrived. and the problem is quantities . how may i ask them to me? tell color preferences, hit back at western commentators. people who said your counter offensive being too slow, he said, i would recommend old critics to shut up, come to ukraine and try to liberate one square centimeter by themselves. you think
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these outbursts do any good for you or anybody else? part from russia, of course. yeah, well of course i, we are facing a very difficult task. on the one hand, we have to be diplomatic and calm patient. on the other hand, you know, every day we get the news of our close friends be killed in the front lines. we get the news of the pregnancy is being destroyed. so it is probably possible to understand why sometimes, you know, you just moved, you know, right. and you just have this outburst of emotions. now i would like to stress that we are extremely grateful to all our western partners who continue to provide the credit with the vital moves. very simple and these statements. they should not be seen as ukrainians. be grateful impatient don't be. we are very grateful to all off of the support, but sometimes you know, when it feels like
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a baltimore can be done and i don't know what likes can be said if the face of streamline. now of course, uh we, we, we, we say that when it comes to the face of the counter, fax, if you know, uh, we have signed it many times, that none of our lives live even stop to these offensive operations. for example, considering go back a at how, because in the past, you know, no major country or may so as an alliance, i've never had that contained where they go into a major operations of this magnitude without asking 3 audio steve. now we're doing this because we have no choice, we're waiting for the 16th, but at the same time we have to continue buying. so we consider all the practice of this kind of offensive or offensive is a, is very dynamic, and it is cheating progress. and we are moving for, we're not standing in the same place. this is not here. one of the underlying
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problems that leads to tension between your crime is allies. the site fits that. you don't necessarily share the same strategic goals. and there's more, you know what you want, you want the number 80 country for russian invaders. you insist your land will not be traded for peace, full stop. don't even know what kind of outcome the westwood won't or perhaps more accurately what kind of outcome it would settle for to even know that well, it seems like i'm watching that the rest of the countries. i'm not just the, just for that matter of all civilized nations are interested in restoring the rule based international or this is what it's primarily all about about a shift balance. so what do we see to applies to the leadership of the western countries? we see
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a very good understanding of the fact that this is not just the button print. this is not o remote, which is finding a gauge, russell for some of the fuel editors. this is something that can spill over the rest of the trinity to west and you know, this is why, you know, if you ask sounds like the whole end of the baltic states, they are all very well aware of the real risks. and they are very, very supportive of your trade and they, you know, support the price they so membership made and you made it through support to try. so uh, i think we are buying it by the same validated by the same goal. we want to live in a world in which was the page. it's like a super power is not in a position to blackmail on a daily basis, the international community. and we have why should not be allowed a rather nice house to live? i suppose the question is,
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how do you get from the back of the field so that they go shaping table you have present bite and saying this more will add that to negotiating table? how do you get from the battlefield to that table? what's your, what's your stage of plan for that? you have to outside victory is that the only way you're going to sit down and talk i we will continue to live right now and we will continue to drive the enemy. now we will continue to destroy the equipment i live for, to the point at which they will understand that there is no funds for them. can further find like this was the case. for example, you can get funding delivery to them. so to be a go to the table, we need to understand that you print it has to be in a position to restore the total source, the the why it wasn't 19, not too long. now, great to complete sovereignty. that's, that's your precondition for sitting down at the table. absolutely. then, mr. west,
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also to share about if you, if the west coast and share that view in countries have voice different opinions about isn't it time for talks to begin and showing we have a ceasefire and issues like that you've, you've got to go by the way you can continue to buffy the what a to thank you. like but uh for now at least on the official level, we are not seeing any disagreements with the premium edition of the piece, the mrs. the last, the vision of a piece by piece last supposed to be completing the impression of the criminal territories. so we will continue on that top because, you know, we have tried appeasing the dresser in the past due in 2013 rush. i said legally and that's crime via the response from the national community, the response from your brain. and this is where it, let us write. this is where we are now and think 23 thousands of people that whole city destroyed. so we know that this is like that, right, the,
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getting the concessions to and a dresser is a data. it's, it's, it's an all stop. the thing disagreements between you and your wife is of a membership of both nato and the you both organizations and assist. you will get that membership. but neither will tell you when in nato's formulation, it will be with allies agreed on conditions on that. even though what that means, as well after the field is a needle size a couple of months back. i think every participant of the native side gave a press conference during which it was very few stages that your brain will become a member of may. so often print with the will, this is one of the western countries now supporting frank with a huge repeating golf on the battlefield. resolving this issue of a trend becomes a member of rachel, because this is the only laudable security guarantee that we can get in the meantime. the by that's a little security guarantees with the country. sure. but the natal saw it in
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a g 7 guarantees. so uh, i got some work in progress, isn't it? that's a work in progress. your president was initially very dissatisfied with what came out of the news. he called the nato alpha absurd. he will bounce back later. but the president, still, i agree, is me still angry? didn't get what he can for i think the president is very to see it when he says the maple sided business was a historic, some of the things you brain i've never received in the past. 12 years of that kind of the outside. you said that off that he pulled it up so his 1st reaction was this is upside as well. yes. but i just pulled it up so that was around the uh by let somebody go chasing the were called uh the natal sonic. so uh, when he actually uh, received information about what the nature of course of that time offering the pride in the shortest. we will get to the case here because of, uh,
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it was what the boat was then and it wasn't progress. now. you talked earlier about the issue of human rights and the time we have left. i'd like to sort of mention the fact that while the tension has focused on agreed, just violations carried out, unfortunately, carried out by russian troops. in march the you and human rights monitoring mission also accused ukraine of war crimes. this was a report which said both sides in the contract and carried out extrajudicial executions of military personnel. you'll government promise to investigate these accusations. how's it done? so are there. so what are the results we are investigating all possible while actually is geneva conventions of human rights in national tvs. uh and uh, you know, there is whole departments within the ministry of justice to dealing with, with, in the office of the general prosecute. and i say when they will be investigated to completely the result who be informed that i would like to set that some of the
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report from the international organizations that have been made probably have been very, very used when it comes to the evidential base when it comes to the way the methodology that they've used. they were very lopsided and i don't think they they, they were 100 percent trustworthy. while you say your investigation, but almost 6 months have passed, isn't the time that these incredibly serious accusations was dealt with the the results were made public as well. this is not, i must confess, my specific area of expertise and responsibilities. but i'm sure that, you know, we bought in our international commitments and workers be the we are collecting evidence and investigating the crimes committed by the aggressors, by the terry say russia and, you know, we, we have both of those standards if there are violations of the message or do right most of by our side we will investigate them and report it by. all right,
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you already faxed. it's been good time here on conference, so thank you very much and the a thank you to thank you very much. the, [000:00:00;00]
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