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comes to ends in that search because we love its all half a unfairly or illegally steamed and cheated on both the way to number one. that's the question at the hearts of the expected 10 week trial that began today as the us justice department to find me to come one of the biggest a big techs, big based. yeah, the tech johns like apple, amazon and mac. so we'll be watching kinley. i'm feel go invalid and this is the day the, the question of this crowd, whether it's in the legal monopoly. i mean they, they control 90 percent of the search market. the government's going to argue that google searches like the digital air that the green, that the companies tactics of the polluted the atmosphere. and it's damaging extinguish google's as a no, no, no, no, you know, competition is just a click away. people like us, people trust the we give them the best product,
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give them the best results. also on the day, thousands of data in thousands more are missing and loving in libya, international aid organizations erasing to respond, epic proportions as not being a storm like this. in the range and was that in living memory? so the work now is really to get in supplies, but get in look at a lot. sadly some of those supplies include things like 40 bucks. welcome to the day. it's being billed as the trial. it could totally be shaped the tech industry and to shake the home, but many big tech companies have own that customers. an antique trust trial against google opened in washington dc. today. prosecutions allows the company illegally made itself the default app on many devices and services, crushing its competitive in the process. noise for both sides have made opening statements and the trial is expected to last 10 weeks. it's a 1st time and
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a quarter of a century that a tech company has faced anti trust laws in the us. the last time was when microsoft was prosecuted over the dominance of its internet explorer browser. google denies the accusations, incense its products succeed simply because back the best on the market. let's pick this up. but jennifer huddleston, who is a technology policy research fellow at the cato institute in washington dc. welcome to dw. so this is a federal case brought by the justice department. why are they going after google? i think that's actually a really good question. and now that when we're looking at this case, why are we seeing the american government director, an incredibly successful american company, a company that's very popular with consumers, what the government and this case is brought by the department of justice. it's also, there's also a companion case brought by the attorney general of several different states are
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arguing is that google has not only a change monopoly power, but that it's using that monopoly power in anti competitive way or maintaining that monopoly power in anti competitive ways. such as, by making itself the, the default search engine, or through what it's doing in the search engine advertising market. what's interesting though is this is a company that's incredibly popular with consumer and much of it, 6. and much of, of what's going on here is actually a question of should consumers be the one to decide what products are successful in the market? or is there a government intervention to dictate what the market in search should look like. so because of that, that's of motivation to see a little bit of cloudy. that is, this could mean savings really? yes. just the sideways way of track. i've tried to break up this and i know this a company like god taking down al capone's and not paying his taxes as we certainly
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have seen a lot of scrutiny of big cap companies of these leading cap companies that are largely american on both sides of the atlantic actually, we've seen a lot of scrutiny from european regulators, but interestingly, we're also seeing a lot of scrutiny from us regulators on both the left and the right. this is probably a result of various political motivations that vary depending on whether you're looking at it on the left or the right. but also it represents a pretty dramatic shift in the way that we've seen competition policy use in the us . and what i see as in very concerning show away from something that's truly focus on the consumers and how the competitive markets are, are benefiting consumers or how anti competitive behavior, maybe farming consumers. just something that's much more focused on kind of the idea of concentration in and of itself is
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a harm. the idea that competition policy should be focus more on competitors than on the outcomes that are best support. so what do you think the outcome of this child is likely to be? can you see google being broken off full of, of perhaps just getting its wings clipped? a really interesting questions in this particular trial is what happens even if the government wins? what would, what would that look like in terms of a, a remedy? because it's not necessarily off the, is that there, there is a potential regulatory remedy there or so we stop and think about them. they are so anti consumer that it's really concerning what those remedies would look like. the idea that when you open the web browser, there would be no default search engine. it would already either have to just be random or you would have to go through additional steps to select
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a search engine when that's something that consumers have largely come to expect. the fact that this could change the advertising market when add to prices have generally fallen and waste that having probably benefit it. small businesses were now able to advertise online much more easily than in an era where you had to purchase television advertising or print advertising. but i think the other really interesting question here is, what does this do to the innovation that's going on in search itself? what does it do in terms of the developments we're seeing in a i the shift we're saying to how jen z as is searching completely differently and things like voice recognition. and then finally, what does it mean when it comes to what competition policy is being useful? what would this mean in terms of how we would see regulators, particularly in the us, potentially pursuing anti trust cases in the future? right, the, just on the, the, the 1st of the many points you made that you make,
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it sounds like quite a complicated business of changing your, your search provider. i'm google's defense. and certainly when i used my phone or the computer is, i know it's really easy to change search engines, that's actually not a huge a but on the consumer as well. it is very easy to change. search engines right now, it's only 4 clicks away on your typical smartphone. but most people expect that there is a pre set search engine that you're not opening on the phone out of the box with nothing preinstalled in it, but there's one and then you can can change it if you don't like that one. or want to go to another one? i think that some of the question here too is, should the government be dictating what these business relationships can look like? and what products are offering to consumers when something comes out of the box? an interesting way um, besides the atlantic is you,
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as your hands about earlier that you are paying union has just introduced legislative control, the big tank with its digital moffatts act, designating a alphabet that's google's parent company, and amazon apples bite down, stick talks of this and meta, they own as a facebook and microsoft as gatekeepers who will have now 6 months to me issue full compliance with these new laws. can you see that being successful and something that the u. the u. s. is likely to look at and try to adopt. it is very interesting to see this dynamic emerge between the you and us regulators. and i think it's very concerning to see how many america leading american tech companies have really appeared to be the target of, of this kind of regulation. that seems very specifically designed to know after not general practices, but those particular companies. these are leading innovative companies and we're
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seeing them continue to compete, not only amongst each other, but against any number of emerging players, whether it's in a i or whether it's through the development of new social media or whether it's 3 things in any wide array of of markets and industry. so when we see something like a regulatory framework in monday, i may, i really have questions about what that's going to do for the future of innovation . and again, is it really the role of government regulators to dictate what consumers should have access to in the market when we are continuing to see that this remains a competitive and innovative mark? so why event, dear thing, the us congress, which has consider this issue, many of the time of failed to write the name, what have been called based anti competitive practices of these companies? i think it's a failure. i think that the proposals we've seen are very concerning and the way
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that they shift the focus away from, from the consumer. the proposals we've seen in the us congress would actually largely harm consumers and the way that it would prevent them from having certain features that they come to expect. the next up to the ability to you knows it. when you google, find me the nearest hamburger restaurant that a map pops up with the, the list of the hamburger restaurants that are nearby. or the way that when you are trying to find out more information or, or reviews about a place that you have several different options. including those options that may be built in to a service. but you can also very easily go to other services if you don't like the options that are available and, and google. and so when we're seeing these regulations come in, what they're telling companies is we think we know you think you know what your
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consumer wants. but we know better and rather than what to be popular by serving your consumers, we're going to dictate so that we can make sure that your competitors have at hospice. same advantages that you have. so if you're more innovative, if you're more successful, you're providing more popular services, we're gonna try it and regulate that in a way to, to, to make the product go down the level rather than allowing the market competition to praise everything up a lot. so quick. what about money? because of course, the big suspicion has pain that one of the reasons that big tech has been so successful, it avoiding and legislative oversize in the us. it's the more than $250000000.00 that spends on lobbyist advertising pay. all companies, as well as political donations, can you see them being able to spend their way as of this going? the something that i'm really able to to speak
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on. what i will point out is that we continue to see a debate over anti trust. and that it's important that we recognize the value of the existing anti trust framework, which is objective and flexible and economically sailed to deal with a wide array of industries. and then we recognize that any changes to antitrust law, even if they may be nominally directed at big tech companies, are likely to impact the market far more generally. good to hear. thank you for intake here. so that's actually jennifer hudson from the cato institute, thousands of people have been killed in catastrophic flooding in libya. the international federation of red crossman red crescent society just as around 10000 people. i'm missing. after battling across the mediterranean storm down, your hate causing floods which swept away in time neighborhoods in eastern coastal
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areas. the destruction is worst in done with 2 dams collapsed, wiping out a course of the safety emergency services put down as kind of desktops as around 2300 relief efforts have been complicated by the fact that libya's internationally recognized government and tripoli does not control the devastation, eastern regions, whole neighborhood submerged by will to residents in this area of eastern libya come face to face with the devastation caused by the storm. some buildings was swept away entirely by the force of wind and rain. while i'm going to the regions armed forces say it's almost impossible to currently assess the extent of the disaster. you have a lot of them all for a number of affected people is very high. the damage is huge, so you didn't call to describe or measure it stuff please. yeah, i'm not going really well. my father re with him on that. i didn't have
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a social media such as shows the dom that was demolished because the raging flood torches into the coastal search you have done flooding the central streets page convoys makes the way through gushing waters on the roads into done to reach resident stranded by the storm the area has been declared to dissolve to zone, and the libyan presidential counselor is appealing for international help. spot as the head of the international red cross in libya, town the ramadan told dw rescue team his face. he's challenges access to that, fix it as easy as most easy. uh, also the collapse of the facilities is a big a big challenge is that the, there is no access to these kind of services in the 2nd 6 is a communication is another big, big challenge because this is causing the problem is, is got and according to the,
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the networks are not working properly. we for long goals lose communication with our teams on the account. despite the difficulties, the search continues here for the thousands of people still believe to be missing and they can take a closer look at the history of that cloud. you know, got see me who is a senior. i list a for maybe a at the international crisis. group, she doesn't just from road. welcome to the top. do you have 22 but this is libby as 911. why so? well, 1st of all it happened the line isn't uh and uh, in a certain sense this is a complete e. i'm a, it's a completely new experience for the bits of tragedy that the previous was the previous political feuds. i would say that even the war games could definitely has no comparison to. so it's a, it's, it's a really a groundbreaking moment for
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a country. it's a travesty for those affected directly, but for the country as a whole, because in 40 years of they've been history, we've never seen the storm of this extent was never seen a natural disaster this except and so many casualties just in one day. so the comparison, i think is f and it's so devastating because what bit bit better is this just been this concatenation of catastrophe. the size of the storm. they add the apparent lack of preparation for, for the storm. the collapse of these dams, it seems to be just one piece off the piles on top of another. yes, exactly. i mean nobody was expecting a town port of rain of this extent. nobody could have imagined it. even the bins and a plain metal, socrates, mitchell wrote decal center hours before the tragedy in the now when warning that we would not warning, this is a as a,
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a cash as traffic event they. so this would be just okay, the storm as usual. so there was some misinformation there, but the, the, the quantity of rain that came down is just of the charts. that's one thing. the other problem was, of course, the infrastructure and they've been in the past 10 years, has not, you know, has had divided governments has been intermittently. well, that's my itself is one of the cities that has the most affected by ward over these years. it's been, it's been a war zone for 5 years between 20142019. so there's been very little infrastructural maintenance in that area, including on these you know, the small that them outside the city which completely collapsed and, and the end, the bringing down buildings and in the valley adjacent to the diamond and, and further in the center of the city, so this is the 2nd level of the 2nd tragedies that the infrastructure didn't hold up. and i think we're going to witness a 3rd tragedy,
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which is that the rest 2 assets are going to be very difficult because roads have been blocked. this area is isolated to reach the from bank as of which is a main so to me, so libya you have to go through various show 2 points, which as far as we understand now, are still not accessible. uh so its in bridge that is a faulty road that is broken and so on and so forth. and just a few minutes ago, there was an alert from us ortiz a nice and they've been saying that another dime in the outskirts of been guys is also at risk. so them warning and of us to people to evacuate. so that could even complicate things, that unless it is your site, the controller because of the country, is still contested with different governments and the east and the west and this devastation is in the east of those 2 governments co operating on towards and 19 gra, rescue and relief efforts. well, so far we not even seeing relief effort,
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so i can't even say that their cord and hits includes when we, when let's see relief efforts. and the deadline, for example, 48 hours after the tragedy that hasn't seen one rescue convoy reaching the city. i haven't seen footage of rescue teams even leaving but and as a so so, so up until now with not see anything on the ground moving in terms of coordination between the 2 governments. they're talking to each other and they have been for months, but it's more under the tables of conversations, dealing and leanings, whether this now will leads to an outright sort of corporation. we can only hope so. we're not seeing evidence of that yet. we're not hearing that and certainly from the statements and from the politicians when we're not hearing that, we're hearing the people saying, you know,
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it's put politics aside. let's join hands. there's a human to human solidarity, you know, people to people solidarity on the ground. but we haven't seen that type of vocal opening of hands on the i don't on the, the lack of preparedness of being infrastructure. i guess part of the eventual recognize is going to be well, well, these 2 dams, a collapse with a fit for purpose and was corruption a factor as well? i think that'd be pushing a bit too far. i mean, 1st of all, we have to acknowledge that the volume of water that came down was, as i said off the tight. so we don't even know if, if you dance where there would if, whether they would have held any way. because the, that the volume of water and the speed that at which they came though it came down from the mountains, was extra 100 and beyond any possible sort of planning in terms of engineering of dance. but certainly the,
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there is the fact that they have the no upkeep of the infrastructure, at least for the past 10 years. not only of these dams, of all the infrastructure, the roads, bridges in east and in a bit, but even in west and the so it's, that's the state the country is. and i wouldn't blame corruption for that. i would just, i would say that that is the side effect of the country that has been intermittently at war. and where you have these political views between their essential as a power, where politicians or military authorities are more interested in carving out their own authority. i am and the proclaiming the, you know, governments legitimacy and few do over the control of funds rather than write planning rather than rebuilding. and those things that a country need just would have a quick well then yeah,
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you said that there's no relief aspect as yet. so do you expect that to be an international assistance and how will that if it comes, how will that be directed of from within libya as well? what we're just seeing now in the past few hours is just a few planes arriving in the z. i think there was something from sent from egypt and there was news of something arriving from turkey. i know at my country, italy has also offered to to send rest to teams. but one thing is sending, you know, humanitarian aid to blankets. and so to, to an airport, and that is accessible in a city where you don't have damage. and another thing is sending that age to the devastated areas. but most importantly, it's not blankets. it's not food. what people need, i mean also, but as one residents, residents in the crying said is we have thousands of said what he needs is
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a rescue seems to, to lift and move the debris, search for survivors, and return the city to a minimum of, of livable state it's, it's not, it's not suit uh at this moment we need the bulldozers we need, we need the heavy lifting and lived in this moment. i don't think it's capable of doing the heavy lifting. that's why international assistance is key, but it will be difficult to reach the affected areas. as of now the roads are interrupted. right. and we will have to be, they'll be have they'll have to be as high level planning on how to make that happen. so let's take a step backwards then, and just look at the context because libya had faded very much from western headlines before the storm head. this is an oil which company, which of stuff does your site decades of war on a people. and you wrote just last month, but the countries politics was stealing crises. so give us an outline, sketch of,
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of what was going on before this happened. so um, well, you know, the country uh, split essentially since in 201420152 rival centers of power one, boost them. and as the, and one and tripoli has been intermittently, it's a tool with one another. it was a brief interlude of unity where you and let me go see ations led to the appointment of the new government in in 2021. and for a moment this government did manage to unify the country. but again, it lasted less than a year, and uh, its been 18 months now that the country has been divided into 2 centers of power, each claiming that they are legitimate. one and tripoli has the international recognition. the one in the, in jersey has the backing of the, of the, of the libyan par limits. so they have being talks to try to resolve this political
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crisis to elections. but talks were supposed to deliver election laws and an election for a president and a new parliament. but that, that sold. they've been attempts to unify the 2 governments and create one out of 2 . but that has all right, sold entry, the political process is just froze and we haven't seen any develop. thank you so much for outlining that. so clearly a force claudia got sandy from the international crisis group. thank you to and that was today. you can not follow that same on twitter at dw, and use on myself. so now that's okay. a good day, i'll see some the
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