comes to internet search because we love its all half a unfairly illegally schemed and cheated on both the way to non belong. that's the question at the heart of the expected 10 week trial that began today as the us justice department to find me to come one of the biggest a big techs big based. you have the tech johns like apple, amazon and mac. they will be watching kinley, i'm feel go invalid and this is the day the, the question of this trial is whether it's in the legal monopoly. i mean they, they control 90 percent of the search market. the government's going to argue that google searches like the digital air, the degree that the companies tactics of the polluted the atmosphere, and it's damaging to consumers to google as a no, no, no, no, you know, competition is just a click away. people like us, people trust the we give them the best product,

even the best results. also on the day, thousands of data in thousands more. i'm missing and loving in libya, international aid organizations are raising to respond. epic proportions as not being a storm like this. in the range and was that in moving memories? so the work now is really to get in supplies, but get in look at a lot. sadly some of those supplies include things like 40 bucks. welcome to the day. it's being billed as the trial. it could totally be shaped the tech industry and to shake the whole, but many big tech companies have own that customers. an antique trust trial against google opened in washington dc. today. prosecutions allows the company illegally made itself the default app on many devices and services, crushing its competitive in the process noise for both sides of made opening statements. and a trial is expected to last 10 weeks. it's a 1st time and

a quarter of a century that a tech company has faced anti trust low in the us. the last time was when microsoft was prosecute to the dominance of its internet explorer browser. google denies the accusations, incentives, products succeeds simply because back the best on the market. let's pick this up. but jennifer huddleston, who is a technology policy research fellow at the cato institute in washington dc, welcome to the w. so this is a federal case brought by the justice department. why of a going after google? i think that's actually a really good question. and now that when we're looking at this case, why are we seeing the american government director, an incredibly successful american company, a company that's very popular with consumers? what the government, in this case is brought by the department of justice. it's also, there is also a companion case brought by the attorney general of several different states. our

arguing is that google has not only a change monopoly power, but it's using that monopoly power in anti competitive way or maintaining that monopoly power in anti competitive ways. such as, by making itself the, the default search engine, or through what it's doing in the search engine advertising market. what's interesting though is this is a company that's incredibly popular with consumer and much of it, 6. and much of, of what's going on here is actually a question of should consumers be the one to decide what products are successful in the market? or is there a government intervention to dictate what the market search should look like? so because that, that, that's a motivation to see a little bit of cloudy, that is this green savings really? yes. just the sideways way of track. i've tried to break up this and i know him as a company,

like god taking down al capone's and not paying his taxes. as we certainly have seen a lot of scrutiny of big cap companies of these leading companies that are largely american on both sides of the atlantic. actually, we've seen a lot of scrutiny from european regulators, but interestingly, we're also seeing a lot of scrutiny from us regulators on both the left and the right. this is probably a result of various political motivations, but that vary depending on whether you're looking at it on the left or the right. but also it represents a pretty dramatic shift in the way that we've seen competition policy used in the us. and what i see as i'm very concerning, show away from something that's truly focused on the consumers and how the competitive markets are, are benefiting consumers or how anti competitive behavior, maybe farming consumers to something that's much more focused on kind of the idea

of concentration in and of itself is a harm. the idea that competition policy should be focused more on competitors than on the outcomes that are best smart. so what do you think the outcome of this child is likely to be? can you say google being broken off or above? perhaps just getting its wings clipped. a really interesting questions in this particular trial is what happens even if the government wins? what would, what would that look like in terms of a, a remedy? because it's not necessarily all the is that there, there is a potential regulatory remedy there or slow when you stop and think about them. they are so anti consumer that it's really concerning what those remedies would look like. the idea that when you open the web browser, there would be no default search engine. you were not ready to either have to just be random. or you would have to go through additional steps to select

a search engine when that's something that consumers have largely come to expect. the fact that this could change the advertising market when add to prices have generally fallen in ways of having probably benefit small businesses. we're now able to advertise online much more easily than in an area where you've had to purchase television advertising on print advertising. but i think the other really interesting question here is what does this do to the innovation that's going on in search itself? what does it do in terms of the developments we're seeing in a i the shift we're seeing to how jen z as is searching completely differently and things like voice recognition. and then finally, what does it mean when it comes to what competition policy is being useful? what would this mean in terms of how we would see regulators, particularly in the us, potentially pursuing antitrust cases of the future? right, the just, i'm,

i'm the 1st of the many points you made that you make. it sounds like quite a complicated business of changing your, your search provider. i'm google's defense, and certainly when i used my phone or the computer, is it? no, it's really easy to change search engines, that's actually not a huge a button on the consumer as well. it is very easy to change search engines right now, it's only 4 clicks away on your typical smartphone. but most people expect that there is a pre set search engine that you're not opening up the phone out of the box with nothing preinstalled in it. but there's one and then you can can change it if you don't like that one, or want to go to another one. i think that some of the question here too is, should the government be dictating what these business relationships can look like? and what products are offering to consumers when something comes out of the box? an interesting way um, besides the atlantic is you,

as your hands about earlier that you are paying union has just introduced legislative control. a big tech with a digital moffatts act designating a alphabet that's google's parent company, an amazon apple bite down stick talks of this. and meta, they own as a facebook and microsoft as gatekeepers who will have now 6 months to me issue full compliance with these new laws. can you see that being successful and something that the u. the u. s. is likely to look at and try to adopt. it is very interesting to see this dynamic emerge between the you and us regulators. and i think it's very concerning to see how many america leading american tech companies have really appeared to be the target of, of this kind of regulation that seems very specifically designed to go after not general practices, but those particular companies. these are leading innovative companies and we're

seeing them continue to compete, not only amongst each other, but against any number of emerging players, whether it's in a i or whether it's through the development of new social media or whether it's 3 things in any wide array of of markets and industry. so when we see something like a regulatory framework in the dna, i really have questions about what that's going to do for the future of innovation . and again, is it really the role of government regulators to dictate what consumers should have access to in the market when we are continuing to see that this remains a competitive and innovative mark? so why event, dear thing, the us congress, which has consider this issue, many of the time of failed to ryan a and what have been coal based anti competitive practices of these companies? i think it's a failure. i think that the proposal to be seen are very concerning and the way

that they shift the focus away from, from the consumer. the proposals we've seen in the us congress would actually largely harm consumers and the way that it would prevent them from having certain features that they come to expect. and except to be ability to you knows it. when you google, find me the nearest hamburger restaurant that a map pops up with the, the list of the hamburger restaurants that are nearby. or the way that when you are trying to find out more information or, or reviews about a place that you have several different options. including those options that may be built in to a service. but you can also very easily go to other services if you don't like the options that are available in, in google. and so when we're seeing these regulations come in, what they're telling companies is we think we know you think you know what your

consumer wants. but we know better and rather than what to be popular by serving your consumers, we're going to dictate so that we can make sure that your competitors have at hospice. same advantages that you have. so if you're more innovative, if you're more successful, you're providing more popular services, we're gonna try it and regulate that in a way to, to, to make the product go down a level rather than allowing the market competition to raise everything up a lot. so quick. what about money? because of course, the big suspicion has pain that one of the reasons that big tech has been so successful in avoiding legislative oversights in the us is the more than 250000000 dollars they've spent on lobbyist advertising pay all companies, as well as political donations, can you see them being able to spend their way as of this corner or something that i'm really able to to speak on?

what i will point out is that we continue to see a debate over anti trust and that it's important that we recognize the value of the existing antitrust framework, which is objective and flexible and economically sailed to deal with a wide array of industries. and that we recognize that any changes to antitrust law, even if they may be nominally directed at big cap companies, are likely to impact the market far more generally. good to hear. thank you for and take here. so that's actually jennifer hudson from the cato institute. the thousands of people have been killed in catastrophic flooding in libya. the international federation of red crossman red crescent society says around $10000.00 people missing. after battling across the mediterranean storm. daniel hate causing floods which swept away in time neighborhoods in eastern

coastal areas. the destruction is worst in done with 2 dams collapsed, wiping out the course of the city, emergency services put down his current desktop as around 2300 relief efforts have been complicated by the fact that libya's internationally recognized government and tripoli does not control the devastation, eastern regions, whole neighborhood submerged by will to residents in this area of east and libya come face to face with the devastation caused by the storm. some buildings were swept away entirely by the force of wind and rain. while i'm going to the regions armed forces say it's almost impossible to currently assess the extent of the disaster. you have a lot of them. although for a number of affected people is very high, the damage is huge. so you didn't talk to describe or measure it stuff please. yeah, i'm not going really well. my father viewing him women, i didn't have

a social media such as shows the dom that was demolished as raging floodwaters into the coastal search. you have done flooding the central streets. age convoys makes the way through gushing waters on the roads into done to reach resident stranded by the storm. the area has been declared to dissolve to zone and the libyan presidential counselor is appealing for international help. but as the head of the international red cross and libya tom, a ramadan told dw rescue team his face, he's challenges access to that fix it. it is easy is both easy. uh, also the collapse of the facilities is a big, a big challenge that the, there is no access to basic health services in the 2nd 6 is a communication is another big, big chunk. because let's discuss, let's discuss and according to the,

the networks are not working properly. we for long goals lose communication with our teams on the account. despite the difficulties, the search continues here for the thousands of people still believe to be missing. and they can take a closer look at the history of that cloud, you know, got see the, who's a senior out of this default, and maybe at the international crisis group. she doesn't just from road. welcome to the top. do you have 22 but this is libby as 911. why say well 1st of all it happened the line hasn't. uh and uh, in a certain sense, this is a completely, i'm a, it's a completely new experience for the bits of tragedy that the previous was the previous political feuds. i would say that even the war games capacity has no comparison to. so it's a, it's, it's a really a groundbreaking moment for

a country. it's a travesty for those affected directly, but for the country as a whole, because been 40 years of lived in history. we've never seen the storm of this extent with noticing a natural disaster of this extent and so many casualties just in one day. so the comparison i think is up and it's so devastating because what bear bear is this just been this called combination of capacitive faith, the size of the storm. they add the apparent lack of preparation uh full off for the store, the collapse of these dams. it seems to be just one piece off the piles on top of another. yes, exactly. i mean nobody was expecting the town port of rain of this extent. nobody could have been imagined it even the bins and a plane metal. socrates michel ro, decal, center hours. the full is the tragedy in the now were warning that we would not warning this as a, as a a catastrophic event. they thought this would be just ok,

the storm as usual. so there was some misinformation there, but the, the, the, the quantity of rain that came down is just of the charts. that's one thing. the other problem was, of course, the infrastructure and again, the past 10 years has not, you know, has had divided governments, has been intermittently as well. that might, itself, is one of the cities that has the most affected by ward over these years. it's been, it's been a war zone for 5 years between 20142019. so there's been very little infrastructural maintenance in that area, including on these you know, the small that them outside the city which completely collapsed and, and the end, the bringing down buildings and in the valley adjacent to the diamond and, and further in the center of the city, so this is the 2nd level of the 2nd tragedies that the infrastructure didn't hold up. and i think we're going to witness a 3rd tragedy,

which is that the rest 2 assets are going to be very difficult because roads have been blocked. this area is isolated to reach the from bank as it, which is the main. so do you nice and libya, you have to go through various show 2 points, which as far as we understand now, are still not accessible. uh, so its in bridge that is a faulty road that is broken and so on and so forth. and just a few minutes ago, there was an alert from authorities a nice and they've been saying that another dime in the outskirts of been guys is also at risk. so them warning and of us can people to evacuate. so that could even complicate things that i'm, this is your site, the controller because of the country is still contested with different governments in the east and the west. and this devastation is in the east of those 2 governments co operating on towards and 19 gra, rescue and relief efforts. well, so far we're not even seeing relief effort. so i can't even say that their cord and

hits includes where we, when, let's see, relief efforts. and the deadline, for example, 48 hours after the tragedy. that hasn't been one rest. you convoy reaching the city . i haven't seen footage of rescue teams even leaving but and as a so so, so up until now with not see anything on the ground moving in terms of coordination between the 2 governments. they're talking to each other and they have been for months, but it's more under the tables of conversations, dealing and wheeling. whether this now will leads to an outright sort of corporation. we can only hope so. we're not seeing evidence of that yet. we're not hearing that and certainly from the statements and from the politicians when we're not hearing that, we're hearing the people saying, you know,

it's put politics aside. let's join hands. there's a human to human solidarity, you know, people to people solidarity on the ground. but we haven't seen that type of vocal opening of hands on the additions by get, i don't on the, the lack of preparedness of being infrastructure. i guess part of the eventual recognize is going to be, well, why these 2 dams a collapse with a fit for purpose and was corruption a factor as well. i think that'd be pushing a bit too far. i mean, 1st of all, we have to acknowledge that the volume of water that came down was, as i said off the tight. so we don't even know if, if you dance where there would if, whether they would have held any way. because the volume of water and the speed that at which they came though it came down from the mountains. uh, it was extraordinary and beyond any possible sort of planning in terms of engineering of dance. but certainly that there is the fact that they has the no

upkeep of the infrastructure, at least for the past 10 years. not only of these dams, of all the infrastructure, the roads, bridges in eastern libya, but even in western libya. so it's, that's the state the country is, and i wouldn't blame corruption for that. i would just, i would say that that is the side effect of the country that has been intermittently at war. and where you have these political feuds between various centers of power, where politicians or military authorities are more interested in carving out their own authority. i am and the proclaiming the, you know, governments legitimacy and feuding over the control of funds rather than right landing. rather than rebuilding and those things that a country need just sort of a quick well then. yeah,

you said that there's no relief experts as yet. so do you expect that to be an international assistance and how will that if it comes, how will that be directed of from within libya as well? what we're just seeing now in the past few hours is just a few planes arriving in the z. i think there was something from sent from egypt and there was news of something arriving from turkey. i know my country italy has also offered to, to send rest 2 teams. but one thing is sending, you know, humanitarian aid to blankets. and so to, to an airport, and that is accessible in a city where you don't have damage. and another thing is sending that age to the devastated areas. but most importantly, it's not blankets. it's not food. what people need, i mean also, but as one residence residence in the crying said is we have thousands of said,

well, he needs is a rescue teams to, to lift and move the debris, search for survivors, and return the city to a minimum of, of livable state it's, it's not, it's not suit uh at this moment we need the bulldozers we need, we need the heavy lifting and lived in this moment. i don't think it's capable of doing the heavy lifting. that's why international assistance is key, but it will be difficult to reach the affected areas. as of now the roads are interrupted. right. and we will have to be, they'll be have they'll have to be as high level planning on how to make that happen. so let's take a step backwards then and just look at the context because libby, i'd fight it very much from western headlines before the storm hit. this is an oil which company, which of stuff does your site decades of water on a people. and you wrote just last month, but the countries politics was still in crises. so give us an outlined sketch of,

of what was going on before this happened. so um, well, you know, the country uh split essentially since in 201420152 rival centers of power one, boost them. and as in one in tripoli has been intermittently, it's a tool with one another. it was a brief interlude of unity where you and let me go see ations led to the appointment of the new government in in 2021. and for a moment this government did manage to unify the country. but again, it lasted less than a year, and uh, its been 18 months now that the country has been divided into 2 centers of power. each painting that their legitimate one and tripoli has the international recognition. the one in the, in jersey has the backing of the, of the, of the libyan par limits. so they have being talks to try to resolve this political

crisis to elections. but talks were supposed to deliver election laws and election for president and the new parliament. but the that's told they've been attempts to unify the 2 governments and create one out of 2. but that has all right. sold entry, the political process is just froze and we haven't seen any develop. thank you so much for outlining that. so clearly a force claudia got sandy from the international crisis group. thank you. and that was today, you can not follow out to him on twitter at dw, and use on my cell phone. so go at. okay, a good day. i'll season the

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