the, the, you're watching due to the news coming to live from birthday fears of disease, fretting and the libyan city. devastated by floods. olivia and officials say up to 20000 people may have died and the catastrophe caused by torrential rain. and 1st thing damage to you when says most of the casualties could, has been prevented. also on the show, the italian island of land producer is under a state of emergency after some 7000 miles was arrived within 24 hours. the

clare richardson. thank you so much for joining us. thousands of flood victims have been buried in mass graves today in the libyan city of darren. a. much of the city was swept away after torrential rain, caused to dance to burst within. officials warn that the death tool could reach up to 20 thousands. the un said most of the deaths could have been avoided if early warning systems had worked properly. a child cooled from the mud and trouble. all that's left in this part of debt are no longer her father's advice. the flood so, but his helpless as his daughter's body is recovered. fergusons of people have been killed, and citizens more are still missing. as teams search the wreckage for bodies the. this is a disaster,

my sister for children or grandchildren, a total of 11 people, the disaster in every sense of the word. my nephew, my people, my family, the 10s of thousands of people and don't know and surrounding areas of being left without homes, food, clean water, or medicine. and hunger is mounting. years of mismanagement, had left the cities infrastructure crumbling. the we want to do a story, it is 4 weeks know years that the damn had corrected it and needed maintenance. we said that nobody to listen to us and now the whole of, during the slide it to the situation in the nearby tentative sousa is similarly grim, more than a decade of conflict, and no central government have left much of libby's infrastructure, neglected with the soul mountain. road that links it to the town of sha hot

collapse and the floods isn't of course, you know what they should send bill dozers all about the general electricity company must intervene. we have been without electricity some saturday. we don't, but the water company has to get involved. they have to come to fix the drain pipe . so what was some aid and folded risk? you teams have arrived in libya, but with the country divided and the roads washed away. international help is struggling to reach those a need. nothing is working here. no national authorities, nothing. have a look and do something about it. we're experiencing a great injustice to. i don't know how many survivors have been left to dig through the mud and deputy themselves, looking for their loved ones. the search for bodies as also moved out to sea for many of those and still missing were washed away. and joining us now from the libyan capital, tripoli is re met lazarus. he is with the relief organization care international.

thank you so much for taking the time to speak with us. um, can you tell us whether your organization or his partners has been able to reach the disaster areas and what they're seeing on the ground there? uh, thank you. um right now the situation on the ground is very perfect and the bodies are everywhere. they're trying to count the families and the missing people. right now there is no concrete numbers of the missing or the people who lost their lives . so our, our partners and ourselves care are trying to find a change us of the situation as much as much as possible and look for the media to release and support discounts and can kind of do it for the area victims. and for the survivors are right now, what are the biggest challenges that you are facing and getting a to people the biggest challenges would be that the storm destructive all the roads that's needed due to the area of the rooms of locked the supply is the supply

chain special for food and medication. it's very difficult to reach. and one of the most significant one is filter were found out of these world. there is like more than 220000 families who have been displaced from their homes. this is more than 50000 people who are right now sheltered in schools, and they will be evacuated a few days of with no shelter and no place to go. who are missing the basic needs like clothes, food in their life, the wedding with no place to go. and then on top of that, you have bodies piling up everywhere and pulled from the rubble of the washy and from see with that in mind, how concerned are you about the possible outbreak of disease? there is very no, that's a loved with the scale can because of the aftermath the with the, with water born diseases. right now, there is no concrete reports of, of,

of this we have no further information, but we just told for the best. yeah. and looking ahead, how difficult you think it is going to be for libya and for the people living in the affected areas to recover from this disaster. is there any kind of timeline in mind there's a bridge from such a disaster will take months even years, because um most people and they're, they've not they, they've not lose like one family member or 2 day at all. and some entire families were wiped out entirely. so there's a survivors. the total of this would take a while to recover from. this is why the care is focusing on a, a, in a very extensive psycho social support for the victims, families and the survivors of this event. and thank you so much for taking the time to speak with us on the units that isn't remote lives are from care international. joining us today from triple a or will the italian

island of length of do so is under a state of emergency after a record number of migrants arrived within a 24 hour period. many of them have now been transferred to the mainland, but thousands remain in need of assistance. the migraines arrive on small boats from north africa with some dying on the journey, and during rescue missions. more than a 100 boats packed, which was more than 6 and a half 1000 people in just over 24 hours a number that marvels the small islands, permanent population numbers this attacks and the coast guards capacity to into set smugglers wrestles and pushing and tell you in 5 minutes to georgia, maloney is pledge to end the regular immigration to the test with such a politically charged issue, the human aspect across submitted to a new in migration can be easily overshadowed. many has spent thousands of years for the perilous journey across the water. but when these human beings,

many of whom are still in the teens, arriving near it, they find themselves reduced to a missed to stick. they become numbers to be shuffled around by bureaucrats. they become the lightest problem to be squabbled either by politicians, while those who were on the ground, those carrying for these weary young travellers do the best i can to ease the situation. we tried to get home for reside to give that maybe kelly. ringback you got a there, we try to give that mean formation and choose the closer and then they go towards the. busy producer is the southern most parts of it today, and the long standing flash point in the discussion of the migration, the underwater release agencies do the utmost infrastructure on such a small island is simply unable to cope. when a valuable number search you are more or less with the number we had in 2016,

which was an exception for a rivals that had insured. what seems to be a bit different. now we do have a government more. we can get more, i'm di, migration gemini, has now suspended a voluntary deal to take it in my goods landing. and it today and fonts announced tough a new measures aimed at stopping migrants coming over the italian border. these approaches could well be emulated by other noise and countries. many of the new arrivals height, this is the start of new and back to life for them in europe, pushing brussels with under a year until the parliamentary elections. it could mean the thought of yet another political stand of the migration for more i'd like to welcome catherine bullard, the director of the european council on refugees and exiles. thank you for taking

the time we have here. thousands of people arriving within 24 hours. why are we seeing so many people arriving now to it, is because of the situation in the countries of origin of the people arriving wherever we're seeing increased situations of persecution in security for j. let's say that is leading people to leave. but also the situation in the countries of trends, let's say, where previously people might have been able to stay working, live in dignity in a country like new seo or libya. and that has become increasingly difficult with the rise, for instance of races to tax. and she needs here, which is a propelling people to try to move on to go to europe. so it's a combination of reasons that leads to the numbers of people arriving and which none the less remain manageable, should that be a collective european response,

which is what we need now to deal with the agent situation and non produce. uh, yeah, i'd like to ask you more about that. it appears that lamp is itself is, is beyond its capacity to help these people on. but we see germany and france tightening their borders. germany saying it's suspending excepting migrants arriving on italian shores. why have we seen that change of mind or so there is ongoing political debates and hostility towards assigned them seek is and refugees, and many countries of europe. there's also the perception. and so it's, and countries that they're doing moles and other countries. and where is in front and what is always needed is a collective response. the actual numbers of people, the rising all manageable, but they're only manageable if all the countries within the european union worked together. so that the situation of a to lee is not to introduce responsibility to deny access to tyrant tree or to prevent people of rising that would be illegal on the past. eventually, if people are wrong financially,

they should then be solidarity with it today in other countries, supporting the offering relocation, for instance, for people who arrive initially providing assistance for people who will receive perception and apply for sign them. and that to me is a question of geography after rule, the country is that the external quote is all likely to receive people because that's the point at which they enter the you. and it still the case that the majority of those arriving in a you do have a international protection needs. although we often hit the opposite. actually, if we look at the figures from last year, the protection, right? the percentage of people who receive a protection status, who are recognized as a nathan of international protection is very hard. so it's not a question of saying that these are not refugees. these are people who don't need protection, so must be prevented from arriving. yeah, so in your view, what has happened to this european solidarity?

i'm just this week we saw the president of the european commission, or so funder line calling for you, unity on migration. but this seems to be an example of it faltering. so the is the ongoing situation of work to the rules in general, and we see the rules that are a, robert, i'm favorable actually to the countries of external boat because the country is responsible for many assigned them applications. all the countries where people arrive. so in that sense, actually for the front, so gemini, they benefit from the rules because it's more likely the to, to legal grace is responsible for people because that's the 1st country where they arrive. so that's one issue is we would argue the on friend this of the rules and generals of the 2nd issue is then the question of what to do in the situation of crisis. and in that situation, it becomes highly tents and politicized. in a situation like this. arrival of 7000 people on the small island of the coast.

eventually it's essential that countries stuck pin i'm to criticize in the, talking to me. and in many cases, these are people who has been rescued at sea and who actually and in respect to this international obligation since rescued or has allowed to be this about the. so the alternative to other countries supporting utility unfortunately would be that it truly refuses to allow rescued people to enter or refuses to rescue people on either of which would leads to suffering including additional death. yes, well thank you so much for taking the time to speak with us onto the few names that is catherine will our director of the working council and rest if you and i was. we appreciate your time. thank you. before we go, a quick reminder of our top story at this hour us for the essentials of warranty, but up to 20000 people may have died and devastating floods triggered by heavy rain

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